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LittleBigPlanet Delayed Due To Qur'an-Sampling Audio

Several readers have pointed out that Sony's much-awaited LittleBigPlanet has hit a snag and will be delayed worldwide. The delay came after it was discovered that a song licensed for use in the soundtrack contained audio samples from the Qur'an. All advanced copies sent to retailers for the target release of October 21 in North America, 22 in PAL territories, and 24 in the UK and Ireland, have been recalled. "The post, by user 'Solid08', indicates of the specific references in the composition: 'In the 18th second: "kollo nafsin tha'iqatol mawt", literally: "Every soul shall have the taste of death' ... almost immediately after, in the 27th second: "kollo man alaiha fan", literally: "All that is on earth will perish."'"

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  1. Re:To quote Bill Hicks by einer · · Score: 5, Informative

    From: http://kotaku.com/5065106/nsiders-letter-to-sony-and-media-molecule-re-quran-references

    "We Muslims consider the mixing of music and words from our Holy Quran deeply offending. We hope you would remove that track from the game immediately via an online update, and make sure that all future shipments of the game disk do not contain it."

    Personally, I consider censoring art "deeply offending." Sony, you're losing a customer if you cave to the demands of any religious group. Hey Muslims, don't buy the game.

  2. Re:Different Sony, right? by abigor · · Score: 3, Informative

    It's all about calculated risk - piss off some English Catholics, you get some peeved letters in the local paper. Piss off Muslims, you get explosions, beheadings, and people living out their lives in hiding.

  3. Re:So what? by plague3106 · · Score: 3, Informative

    Well, it's not a suicide bombing... but it's a bombing:
    http://www.alternet.org/blogs/peek/37363/

  4. Re:And we reproduced the lines here? by eln · · Score: 3, Informative

    Well, if that's the case, the solution is simple: Re-release the song, but instead of just sampling those two parts, sing the entire book! I smell a platinum record!

  5. Re:Peace by ceoyoyo · · Score: 4, Informative

    The more enthusiastic priests and ministers quite like these ones though:

    "And he that blasphemeth the name of the LORD, he shall surely be put to death, and all the congregation shall certainly stone him."

    and

    "If there be found among you ... that ... hath gone and served other gods, and worshipped them ... Then shalt thou ... stone them with stones, till they die."

  6. This Muslim's buying... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Informative

    ... and I know a lot about Islam. I teach it to other Muslims. Yes, the religion teaches that the Quran must not recited in conjunction with music. It must be vocal only, although most of the reciters inflect their voice so that it is beautiful to hear, much like music is. The musician that Sony licensed it from should be contacted about it. I wouldn't blame Sony for it. But I can see why some Muslims might be offended by it. Grow up. It's only two phrases, not an entire passage. I personally think it is kind of cool to have it in a game, as long as it is innocuous and not used to promote an anti-Islamic agenda (other posters here have cut and pasted text for that). "Bismillah" ("in the name of God") is in The Bohemian Rhapsody by Queen and I love it everytime I hear it. And then Beelzebul shortly thereafter takes me back to the D&D days...

  7. Re:Peace by unlametheweak · · Score: 3, Informative

    This fact is often understated. The average Muslim is just about as religious as the average Christian. That being said we don't see rioting in the streets (all that often) because of religious differences. It's usually the leadership (and the Fundamentalist versions of Brown Shirts) that spur things on.

  8. Re:ANd? by Ian+Alexander · · Score: 4, Informative
    I wondered the same thing, too. From the article:

    The post, by user 'Solid08', indicates of the specific references in the composition: "In the 18th second: "ÙfÙ ÙÙØ ØØØ¦ÙØ© ØÙÙ...ÙØ" ("kollo nafsin tha'iqatol mawt", literally: 'Every soul shall have the taste of death')... almost immediately after, in the 27th second: "ÙfÙ Ù...Ù ØÙÙSÙØ ÙØÙ" ("kollo man alaiha fan", literally: 'All that is on earth will perish')." It also comments: "I asked many of my friends online and offline and they heard the exact same thing that I heard easily when I played that part of the track. Certain Arabic hardcore gaming forums are already discussing this, so we decided to take action by emailing you before this spreads to mainstream attention. We Muslims consider the mixing of music and words from our Holy Quran deeply offending. We hope you would remove that track from the game immediately via an online patch, and make sure that all future shipments of the game disk do not contain it."

  9. Re:Peace by rezalas · · Score: 3, Informative

    The bible says "though shall not murder" not "kill". The translation from many bible versions is wrong, and has been corrected over time. Kill != murder, there is a difference.

  10. Actually... by mbessey · · Score: 3, Informative

    At least, I do not believe any Pope ever has apologized for the crusades, to name just one tiny thing.

    The prior Pope did actually explicitly apologize for the crusades, among other things.
    http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=1071456

    The current Pope has also apologized for other failings of the Catholic church.

  11. Re:So what? by meringuoid · · Score: 3, Informative
    it also set the framework for abolitionism in the middle east a full 12 centuries before abe lincoln.

    Setting a framework is good. Action is better. When was slavery actually abolished in Muslim lands, and why?

    Slavery in England had been banned since at least 1215, possibly 1102, and serfdom died out by 1600; a court ruling in 1772 confirmed that no English law permitted the condition of slavery to exist in the country any way. Slavery was abolished across the whole Empire in 1807. The United States abolished slavery in 1865. Saudi Arabia abolished slavery in 1962.

    the practice of slavery is now antiquated, and disgusting universally, and that includes the 1.2billion muslims in this world.

    Antiquated. That's a funny way to refer to an institution that's been gone for all of 46 years.

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  12. Re:So what? by shutdown+-p+now · · Score: 3, Informative

    he was elevated to the leader of his tribe as he gained more followers, and in a effort to protect him and his followers he lead muslims in war.

    That's a very interesting kind of defensive war he waged there then, the one in which borders of his realm expanded manyfold...

    its true that there was slavery in arabia at the time of mohammad, roughly 650 AD (i hear there was slavery in the US till not too long ago)... the religion brought rules and fair treatment of slaves to the a region that even the arabs now call a region plagued by 'jahilia' (ignorance). if you read the quran instead of spouted off charged sound bites, you'd know that the quran OK's the practice of slavery in one line, and in the next line says "but it is best if you set them free". repeatedly in the quran it talks about freeing a slave (the punishment for manslaughter, the cost of remarrying your wife, the cost of breaking your vow) and prohibits both the abuse of slaves and the sources of slaves to just prisoners of war.

    It also okays sexual slavery and rape (and explicitly identifies it as a sole workaround for the prohibition on adultery, effectively promoting it).

    personally i find the fact that this book, revealed in the 7th century to a people who called themselves 'ignorant', just set up a system for the ethical treatment of slaves and prisoners of war in one deft move impressive.

    Oh, it's a great book for the 7th century, no arguing. Now if only the book itself didn't say that it's the final and most authoritative source on the opinion of God on all the subjects it cover, and forbade ever changing any dogma enshrined therein...

  13. Re:Peace by tempestdata · · Score: 3, Informative

    Hi, I'm a non-homophobe muslim.

    Wish I could say I was pleased to make your acquaintance you ignorant, prejudiced and ill informed person, but I'm not.

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  14. Re:Peace by tempestdata · · Score: 4, Informative

    I apologize for my previous comment. It was made in anger. Apart from your prejudice showing, your post appeared to be that of a reasonable person.

    How many muslim's do you know? How many countries have you known them in? How many different age groups, races, social classes have they belonged to?

    You think that by talking to a handful of muslim's you have a grasp on the entirety of the beliefs of 1 billion+ people?

    I am a non-homophobe muslim. My wife is highly educated and an equal partner in my marriage, she does not wear a burkha or even a scarf. I do not think Jews are evil, that America is a great Satan, or that infidels should be slaughtered en masse.

    Do not presume to think that I'm a non-practicing muslim either. I've never had alcohol, or eaten meats I'm not allowed to. I fast, and I pray. I contribute to my mosque, I pay zakah, and have been for umrah several times. I hope to go for Hajj soon. Insha'allah.

    The assumptions you make from a handful of individuals that you do not understand are the foundation of all types of bigotry. From relatively harmless ones like 'women are bad drivers', to dangerous ones like 'black people are dumber than whites'.

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  15. Re:So what? by AlXtreme · · Score: 3, Informative

    There is a deeper problem with Islam than merely a lack of education or not reading between the lines of the Qur'an.

    First, the Qur'an is the direct word of Allah/God. The words came to Muhammad, who wrote it down word by word (at least, so Muslims believe). This in contrast with the old and new testament, which were written by disciples. The difference is slight, but this difference means (according to Islam) that no deviation from the Qur'an is possible. Where Judaism/Christianity are able to interpret their holy books differently, Islam specifically forbids this as theirs is the direct word of God. Changing a single word would be sacrilegious, even translating the Qur'an was considered problematic (for it is no longer the direct word of God after translation).

    Thus, a true Muslim will not read between the lines of the Qur'an, for he/she is not allowed to.

    A second deeper problem is that Islam is more than just the Qur'an. Scribes/imams have interpreted the Qur'an in certain ways, leading to laws for Islam (Sharia). These are the laws that (in certain regions) prescribe hangings and stoning of (in our eyes) innocents.

    The Catch-22 is that (again, in certain areas) these laws are unchangeable without near-unanimous support, but that wanting to change them would lead to persecution. Why? Allah is perfect, thus he wouldn't mislead the imams into making false statements about the word of god. Thus the Sharia must be correct. Over time, the laws have snowballed into something that for a Muslim from the 7th century wouldn't even be recognized as Islam.

    Over time (and unlike Judaism/Christianity) Islam has become less moderate. It was indeed quite a liberal religion in the early centuries (at the time) but these two facets of Islam, often overlooked, have lead to a religion that isn't susceptible to change.

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  16. Re:Peace by cbraescu1 · · Score: 3, Informative

    Its funny you mention elections, because the most prosperous Muslim-majority nations are the ones that are democracies (Indonesia) or closer to it on that spectrum (Pakistan).

    According to this Wikipedia article, the biggest per-capita GDP, on a PPP basis, is... Qatar (a Muslim country).

    Let's see which other Muslim countries have a better rank than your Indonesia and Pakistan: Brunei (#4), Kuwait (#9), United Arab Emirates (#14), Bahrain (#24), Oman (#36), Saudi Arabia (#38), Libya (#58), Malaysia (#59),

    The first Muslim country that is a democracy is Turkey, coming at #61.

    So whatever your point was... it was dead wrong.

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