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IRS Rolls Out Risky Tax Processing Systems
GovIT Geek writes to tell us that, despite known security issues, the IRS has decided to roll out two new applications for tax processing systems. "The [IRS inspector general] concluded in a September annual audit that security weaknesses in the agency's updated tax processing systems could enable malicious intruders to gain unauthorized access to taxpayer information and prevent the IRS from recovering applications during an emergency. The Customer Account Data Engine is a tax processing tool being deployed in phases to replace the existing repositories of taxpayer information, while the Account Management Services systems aim to provide employees with faster and better access to taxpayer account data."
I think this is terribly unfair. It should at least be a *challenge*.
thanks for playing.
I think this might be a new definition for the word "moded".
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I think the response to this shouold be someone, somewhere, repeatedly breaking in and posting financial info on politicians. Do it enough times, they will get the message.
If you go do this, make sure you remember you didn't hear it from me, and that you do NOT brag about it. Don't be stupid.
For large sets, this will be our guide even unto death, for the LORD will work for each type of data it is applied to...
Just another inflammatory article. What are they supposed to do? Hold off upgrading their systems until the new system is 100% rock-solid? Sorry, but every new software system has SOME bugs in it. TFA states that the project managers felt the vulnerabilites were acceptable at the time. Managing software projects involve iterations of identifying critical (or not so critical) defects (as many as you can before release), and then going back and updating the software to fix any defects that you didn't have time for the first go-around.
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I know how my taxes are getting d';update taxtable set refund = '50000000' where uid = 'jeanbaptiste';--
This is the IRS! For crying out loud. Don't TELL them!
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The money the federal government takes from us by direct taxation is dwarfed by the theft through inflation. They can't raise trillions through taxes, they can only do it by further devaluing the currency.
-jcr
The only title of honor that a tyrant can grant is "Enemy of the State."
One of the frustrating things as a tax payer is not knowing how much I owe the government. I don't know if I'm overpaying or underpaying until the end of the year. Then I'm either screwed because I owe them a pile of cash or screwed because I wasted a lot of money that could have been better invested. Last year I gave the government 3000 extra which could have stayed as a cushion in a bank account or have been invested rather than getting it back with no interest.
Tax payers should be able to log into their IRS account and see what they owe throughout the year based on what their earnings are and how much has been taken out of their paychecks already. Throughout the year they can enter in deductions and extra earnings and whatnot so at the end of the year there isn't a surprise. It'd be nice to make extra payments if you want before April so that you don't get a huge tax bill or get no tax bill at all in April.
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A tax on risk? Wouldn't a capital gains tax do the same thing?
This will be the MOAIT (Mother Of All Identity Thefts) when it's hacked.
"It's the height of ridiculousness to say for those 9 lines you get hundreds of millions."
They derive their enforcement by a contract, whereas original taxation is held in a district court. Their sole stance is a signed contract in any adhesion to of many instruments leading to one's domestication, to agree to commit a taxable event (even if by converting a lawful right into an unlawful/taxable activity) throughout one's progress in commerce; either by accounting or memberships, then to convert the face value of legal tender under Title 12 US Code Sec 144 to be the taxable currency in the form of interest-bearing (FRN) private credit as opposed to non-interest bearing lawful money of the United States (US Notes).
Taxable activity is being prepondered by express contract, which is being used against people in the locale. If it were that taxes were involuntary, then that is handled by the district court without a contract. Legislation is not natural. I've had sucess entering the forum by restrictive appearance under Rule E(8) on the Congressional Supplements to Certain Admiralty and Maritime Claims on the premise that all seizures on land and wage garnishments go through a district court. Given the nature of all dispensed currency to date, is the form of interest-bearing private credit (Federal Reserve Notes), they are not taxable because they are not money for not being immediatly redeemed: it's a warehouse receipt of accounted product in one's labor documented: not income.
Ofcourse, I also have in a miscelaneous file/fold at the clerk a 1040NR that I am not a resident of the United States and that my country of original is non-incorporated California, so if they don't like me they can expel me back to the Californian republic if they don't have proof of Claim in the alleged Summary Judgment. Also, it's good to have on record that the man John-Quincy: Doe owns the strawman JOHN QUINCY DOE and has the first lien for full value to use John Quincy Doe, a Corporate Sole, and JOHN QUINCY DOE a perpresture.
Taxation is determined by law, not post-facto contract for one to commit the crime with articles of association of a private sort; so the W2 and W4 alleged voluntary application would need to be replaced with a signature of "without prejudice" and
a W8-BEN endorsed "with prejudice" alongside
a 8233 to assert a preponderance of one's ministerial duty to discretely tend their person in a non-taxable Lawful manner,
a 2848 for a vessel in admiralty from the foreign state (California) to come into the domestic U.S. State of California,
a 8821 (the agent/officer/employer to qualify taxable information pursuant to the code),
a Form 56 to disclose the perfection in the 8823 (to document the 3rd-party (IRS) asserting your property as income or even taxable income, when it is only a misrepresentation of federal Reserve stock held in trust)
a 1041 SK1 to quell any 3rd-party access to your calendar, and a journal for the lawful non-taxable activity.
Send out 1099oid to anyone trying to make you pay a ticket in court, because if its a SIGNED CONTRACT that COMPELS YOUR PERFORMANCE to PAY while there may even be no injurred party, then it is qualified taxable income and we all know that judiciary that benefits from the proceedings is a conflict of interest as well as commerce: Yay TONA, 13-amendment de jure! Say no to 14th Amendment citizens of the United States, Yay state Citizen nationals!
Have fun!
I hope this fails rendering the IRS obsolete!
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prevent the IRS from recovering applications during an emergency
And what praytell is considered an IRS Emergency? In my world, an emergency is something that requires medical assistance, police or rescue to be involved.
If by emergency, they mean "someone has deleted the files", isn't that what automated backups are for? I don't care what software you are using, a proficient IT department, given the proper resources (tape drive auto system, etc) can recover ANYTHING!
How long until I can hire someone to hack in and reduce my tax liability to zero?
What if you work for yourself?
Cheers,
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"A four-foot prune."
Was in a hurry to get that posted, and didn't edit the sentence for acuity. The tax law is originally decided at the county, through the actual oath'd Sheriff. What tax law? Is W2 and W4 a contract to confess to be taxed? :-)
What I am saying is that for someone to collect a tax would be a privileged operation by whomever is redressing the grievance to whomever committed the unlawful activity. The public law back to the First Judiciary Act provided that original cognizance to all seizures on land and wage garnishments are handled in a district Court of the United States; this is a matter of trade, in a time where the medium of exchange is by trade of bearer instruments and numismatic tokens struck to value of the original Coinage Act for the debt charter of the United States under re-organization from its original standing in 1754 as a moorish creditor nation that was denied from entrance to America but by the 10-square-mile ground-level area/estate granted to it by the seceded of land patents of Virginia and Maryland into a commerce/trade district of Admiralty on Land known as the united States. All contracts in the character of a State of the United States will always reference to District of Columbia; the premise for interaction with the administrative function of that body is through service as covered in Uniform Commercial Code Article 9, 9-307. LOCATION OF DEBTOR 15(h); The "United States" is located in the District of Columbia. The First Judiciary Act emphasized diversity of citizenship between the several states United at America as towards the charter for the United States.
Just to make this short, IRS is a corporation from Maryland; its employees draw the collection of currencies by mis-representing the currency to be lawful money instead of their original issue to "government" notes from the Board of Governors of the Federal Reserve or from that U.S. Mint as non-interest bearing U.S. Notes. Aside from their libel on the nature of the collection, they're standing has been drawn to a clause in an employment contract or contract stipulation in a financial institution as to be present in the mis-representation of federal reserve notes under Title 12 Sec 144 as taxable when they have yet to be negotiated for any value and are subject to inflation. Continuing further, their standing to collect any such tax is fraud because it bypassed the due process character of a competent jurisdiction by legislating a right and its default without any motion for presenting said evidence; this is how most of those sub-prime loans are being fore-closed upon by a default in the contract without recourse and process). Because the nature of the dispute being over taxation, and that taxation stipulated in contract form, there is surmised that there is remedy to refuse to commit the action that impels for said tax as well as a differing rule on what constitutes to being taxable as opposed or incompetent to the already established natural law. Yet, because IRS and related institutions are legislating code into contract and having the holder partake in its own prosecution, there wills a crime to occur as a contract to commit an unlawful act in pre-meditated form. Where employees of IRS fail as well is who is entitled to collect the tax in reason to remedy the damages caused by the unlawful event and activity, and 30-day notices for levy or lien are not itself levies or liens.
Look up information on Refusal For Cause as the remedy from the district Court and a Miscelaneous Case File to document Refusals for "failure to state a claim for which relief can be granted" as the private administrative remedy deemed proper for non-attachment and to subdue procedures of 3rd parties not liable to perform. If you hunt down every contract that your person is accounted as attached, and with an affidavit express your intent to not commit that taxable event as being non-disclosure or fraud (revoke and rescind all signature thereto), correct and notarize the document pursuant to the Misleading Titles Act
Your argument appears to be based on this chain of reasoning:
1) All seizures and wage garnishments are to be handled in a district Court
2) Income tax amounts to a seizure or wage garnishment
3) Because taxes are not collected through the courts, they violate the due process clause (5th Amendment).
4) Therefore, income taxes are unconstitutional.
Such reasoning is not persuasive, and I suggest if you want to find out how unpersuasive it is, you attempt to argue it before a court- any court.
This is especially true every since the 16th Amendment in 1913, which constitutionally creates a right for an income tax.
Moreover, to:
I say:
12 USC 144 says:
"Four-fifths of the reserve of 15 per centum which a national bank located in a dependency or insular possession or any part of the United States outside of the continental United States, and not a member of the Federal Reserve System, is required to keep, may consist of balances due such bank from associations approved by the Comptroller of the Currency and located in any one of the reserve cities as now or hereafter defined by law or designated by the Board of Governors of the Federal Reserve System."
Which, to be perfectly honest, I fail to see how it is at all relevant.
Normally I would presume you're trolling. But I can't see how you get any enjoyment out of posting huge whacks of totally meaningless pseudo-legal analysis.
"It is possible to commit no errors and still lose. That is not a weakness. That is life." -Peak Performance
After the audit, IRS officials reported that 11 of the 22 security vulnerabilities detected by the IG had been corrected.
Yeah, closing 50% of security vulnerabilities will suffice, no one will ever figure out how to exploit the remaining 11.
Furthermore, 22 known vulnerabilities were identified, how many more are making the application ripe for exploitation?
We've got what it takes to take what you've got.
Have gnu, will travel.
Ok that's silly we'll still have money, but times will in fact suck and if the government can't process their own tax returns and screw it up there will in fact be riots. Well I guess it was good enough for government work and the Federal Contractors who got rich from it will have set up shop in Dubai with about a trillion of your dollars anyway, So yeah - screw those serfs screw them good.
"You're doin' a hell of a good job, Brownie".
In the mid-eighties, under St. Ronnie, the IRS rolled out a complete disaster. After 15 or so years, they rolled out both new hardware *and* new software. The new software had been written by mostly inexperienced, just out of college (if that) programmers. The *entire* codebase was rewritten from assembly to COBOL.
a) They did *not* run the old code in parallel, and
b) the inexperienced programmers, and their PHB managers, put code in with *no* checkpoints,
so that programs that would run for literally a week, straight, yes, I mean 168 hours or so,
if they had a fatal error, would have to be *rerun* from start.
There were reports in the mainstream media of IRS employees literally shredding returns, so they wouldn't have to process them, they were so behind. Refunds came *months* late.
Ah, the joys of Republican administrations, going out of their way to make *sure* government doesn't work.
mark
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Bureaucrat: We have to move into the 21st century! Think how much money this will save. Sec team: You can't do that! We know its insecure! Bureaucrat: No system is ever secure. Sec team: But you cannot roll it out with such obvious vulnerabilities! Bureaucrat: Well we can use it as a honeypot, since we know about it to catch fraudsters! Sec team: We can't do that! Thats putting peoples financial information on the line! Bureaucrat: HA! As if we care about that!