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New State of Matter Could Extend Moore's Law

rennerik writes "Scientists at McGill University in Montreal say they've discovered a new state of matter that could help extend Moore's Law and allow for the fabrication of more tightly packed transistors, or a new kind of transistor altogether. The researchers call the new state of matter 'a quasi-three-dimensional electron crystal.' It was discovered using a device cooled to a temperature about 100 times colder than intergalactic space, following the application of the most powerful continuous magnetic field on Earth."

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  1. Quasi three dimensional crystal? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    I believe the term you're looking for is Dilithium.

  2. Hell Yeah! by SpiderClan · · Score: 5, Funny

    " It was discovered using a device cooled to a temperature about 100 times colder than intergalactic space, following the application of the most powerful continuous magnetic field on Earth."

    That's exactly what I want in my office.

    1. Re:Hell Yeah! by Ethanol-fueled · · Score: 5, Funny

      You can borrow my wife if you want powerful attraction followed by extreme coldness.

    2. Re:Hell Yeah! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

      I did borrow your wife last night... she wasn't that great.

    3. Re:Hell Yeah! by grub · · Score: 5, Funny


      It was discovered using a device cooled to a temperature about 100 times colder than intergalactic space

      Here in Winnipeg we could just put these units outside thus eliminating the need for cooling units. You can't get much more environmentally friendly than that!

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    4. Re:Hell Yeah! by PopeRatzo · · Score: 5, Funny

      C'mon guys, let's get off wives.

      ('Cause I just got off yours...)

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    5. Re:Hell Yeah! by JustOK · · Score: 5, Funny

      they tried. the mosquitoes took them.

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    6. Re:Hell Yeah! by spun · · Score: 5, Funny

      I taught your girl that thing she does with her tongue.

      You're the one who taught her how to nag? You utter bastard.

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  3. Oh no you didn't by yttrstein · · Score: 5, Informative

    Extend it? I trust you mean CONFIRM IT YET AGAIN!

    Thought so.

    1. Re:Oh no you didn't by try_anything · · Score: 5, Funny

      And what, exactly, would that fab breakthrough look like?

      I suspect it would come in pink and look really super with a scarf!

  4. Re:And this helps Moore's Law how? by noidentity · · Score: 5, Funny

    Read carefully; they're cooling temperature itself! Not just cooler matter, but cooler temperature. This is a major breakthrough. Before you know it, they'll be able to achieve faster speeds, longer lengths, smaller sizes, and deeper depths.

  5. But... by sdsucks · · Score: 5, Funny

    How cold is that in libraries of congresses?

  6. Scenes from the lab by Repton · · Score: 5, Insightful

    [Scientist 1] A new state of matter! This is AWESOME!

    [Scientist 2] Yeah, but it's bloody expensive making the stuff. How can we bring in more funding?

    [Scientist 1] Umm ... Something to do with terrorism? Err ...

    [Scientist 2] ...energy crisis? Can we do anything with oil? ...

    [Scientist 1] ...what about computers? Could you make smaller transistors with this stuff?

    [Scientist 2] Yeah, it might fly. Let's run with that.

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  7. Not a new state of matter at all by brunes69 · · Score: 5, Informative

    From comments in TFA:

    The researcher, Dr. Guillaume Gervais, is director of McGill University's Ultra-Low Temperature Condensed Matter Experiment Lab. There's nothing in the journal letter about "a new state of matter". The McGill Newsroom article quotes him as saying to the interviewer, "It's actually not quite 3-D, it's an in-between state, a totally new phenomenon" as compared with the 2-D electron crystals that transistors and IC chips are made of. The interviewer, or an editor, thought "Physics -- state -- new state of matter". Engadget's Melanson picked up the error and passed it on uncritically.

  8. Re:100 times colder than what? by againjj · · Score: 5, Informative

    TFA doesn't state any specific temperature, but I find the analogy to how "cold" space is rather troubling. Space is really "warm", as it contains energy left from the Big Bang (although no one with a common sense would describe it that way in daily talk), and saying that something is so many times colder than space really just doesn't make sense. You can always compare sizes, but as heat is a positive size, because you can't have negative energy, you can just say "this is a hundred times hotter than that" or "my freezer is two times as cold as my refrigerator compared to my living room". The one who thought of this analogy could be talking about degrees on Celsius or Fahrenheit, but then those numbers must be way below absolute zero, or 0 Kelvin, as space is just 2.7 Kelvin, or -270.7 C ( http://helios.gsfc.nasa.gov/qa_sp_ht.html ) and taking for granted he is comparing the temperature of space to 0 ÂC, that means that those crystals are actually -27070 C. And _that_ would be some real frontpage material...

    You seem confused. He speaks of "a temperature about 100 times colder than intergalactic space". Intergalactic space has a temperature of about 3K. It does not make sense to talk of degrees C, since C is not an absolute scale. 100 times colder than 3K is 0.03K.

  9. Moore's Law isn't just about silicon any more by mschuyler · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Since there are already numerous posts invoking the applicability (or not) of Moore's Law, I thought I would start over. Although Gordon Moore certainly formulated his law based on silicon (original is here: http://www.intel.com/technology/mooreslaw/.) it can be applied clear back to 1890 with the Hollerith 'computer' that tabulated the 1890 census. When you graph it out, Moore's Law applies to electro-mechanical switches, then to relays, then to vacuum tubes, then transistors themselves (like in a six transistor radio of the 50's), then on to silicon. It's still the same exponential curve, in five separate states, only the last one of which is silicon. Kurzweil discusses this in depth here: http://www.kurzweilai.net/articles/art0134.html?printable=1. People who claim Moore's Law doesn't apply because this isn't traditional silicon acreage are missing the point, which is that not only is Moore's Law more encompassing than the originally envisioned, it is not going away any time soon. The imminent death of Moore's Law, as always, has been greatly exaggerated.

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  10. Re:Colder than Space? by glitch23 · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Perfect vacuum is theoretically impossible due to quantum mechanics (I can not explain why, but that makes sense).

    For any given particle, you can't know its exact position and velocity. Particles can never reach absolute zero because then you would be able to determine their position since you know their velocity would thus be zero given they have no energy by definition of absolute zero. An extension of that then is if you know a particle's velocity you will never be able to determine its position. If you can't determine its position you can't determine whether it is really outside a vacuum. You may be able to say it isn't in the middle of the volume which represents the vaccum but at the boundary you can't say for sure whether the particle is on the inside of the vacuum or outside. This is Heisenberg's Uncertainty Principle. An absolute zero temperature vacuum is definitely impossible due to the uncertainty principle.

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