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Study Debunks Gamer Stereotypes

Ars Technica reports on a recent study by Ipsos MediaCT which evaluated gamers with respect to a large variety of social parameters. Among their findings: "55 percent of gamers polled were married, 48 percent have kids, and new gamers — those who have started playing videogames in the past two years — are 32 years old on average." Also, "In terms of hard dollars, the average gaming household income ($79,000) is notably higher than that of nongaming households ($54,000), but the value of the gamer as a marketing target can be seen in a variety of ways. 39 percent of gamers said that friends and family rely upon them to stay up-to-date about the latest technology." The press release for the study is available at IGN.

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  1. This honestly makes sense by Elros · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Especially the household income note. While many of us may not see it that way, games are a luxury. They're more likely to be found in a higher income household.

    1. Re:This honestly makes sense by houstonbofh · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Not the games as much as the equipment to play them on. PC games need a grand for the computer. Consoles want a HDTV. None of that comes cheap.

    2. Re:This honestly makes sense by MBGMorden · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Over $50 brand new, but if you can wait a bit most of the popular ones hit $20 or lower. Heck if you can wait longer the older systems can be had at a deal too. A used Gamecube costs like $30 or so. Plenty of (very good) sub-$20 games out there for it too. At those prices almost everyone can afford to play if they want. I think the problem though is that it takes an extreme interest (but very limited funds) already for one to go out and seek the affordable gaming items. You see it more often with low income families buying for their kids, but adults when playing themselves will see the obvious (and current generation) stuff, and if they can't afford it they'll generally just not generate that interest needed to go searching for bargains.

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    3. Re:This honestly makes sense by MikeBabcock · · Score: 4, Insightful

      The dinner will make my wife happy.

      Happy wife trumps hours of entertainment lol.

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    4. Re:This honestly makes sense by Hotawa+Hawk-eye · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Be careful, complexity and fun aren't always positively correlated. For instance, Tetris and Solitaire are fairly simple games, but I don't want to guess how many person-centuries have been spent playing those since they came out on computers or game consoles [and I'm just looking at those two as electronic games; the amount of time spent increases significantly, probably to units of person-millenia if you include all the time people spend and spent playing Solitaire with cards.] On the other hand, the standard US tax form 1040 is fairly complex, and I don't think you'd find very many people who would call figuring out the right information to enter on the form fun.

    5. Re:This honestly makes sense by ArsonSmith · · Score: 2, Insightful

      That breaks down to: "Why do the struggle to pay the rent and feed their children?"

      I know I can live, pay rent, have a nice car, and a social life on around $10 an hour. I could cut some of that easily to pay for food for a kid. You can make more money that $10 an hour delivering pizza. Perhaps they should evaluate their lifestyle and adjust it to their income.

      Sorry not everyone gets whisked off to be the fresh prince of Bel-Air. The sooner you accept your position in life the sooner you can work on improving it. Denying your position and living on credit cards, spending more than you make, and not working an real self improvement will insure a steadily declining lifestyle.

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  2. This creates more questions (bad study) by Jack9 · · Score: 1, Insightful

    What defines a gamer? (maybe it's supposed to be computer gamer?)

    The majority of console/computer/card/board gamers are people under 30. This is not even worth refuting as you can simply ask any retail worker in any store. Anywhere.

    Where's the data from?
    How would you poll gamers who are the extreme antisocial type?
    Why is this posted as news when it's obviously wrong? (based on the article claims)

    // How many people are PC gamers? board gamers? console gamers? ccg gamers? what is this study even about?

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    1. Re:This creates more questions (bad study) by Free+the+Cowards · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Right, because retail workers know everything.

      Hint: older console gamers may be ordering their stuff online. Or simply making quick in-and-out runs to the store instead of hanging out all the time because they have nothing better to do.

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    2. Re:This creates more questions (bad study) by MikeBabcock · · Score: 5, Insightful

      The majority of console/computer/card/board gamers are people under 30. This is not even worth refuting as you can simply ask any retail worker in any store. Anywhere.

      You have numbers to back that up? These studies show again and again that those presuppositions are NOT in fact true, that gaming is not any longer a pre-college thing so much as an adult pass-time.

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  3. Who is the audience of this study? by davidfromoz · · Score: 4, Insightful

    If you believe that gamers use games to stay up to date on new technology you'll believe anything.

    The only thing a study that says gamers are wealthy and more likely to invest in new technology and movie tickets confirms is that IGN would like to attract advertisers.

  4. Selective confirmation? by Moraelin · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Actually, unless any of those retailers actually did a proper study, you're probably just seeing selective confirmation at work. Selective confirmation works like this: if you really want to believe something, you'll notice all the confirmation, and conveniently forget all the counter-examples.

    One prime example of this is, well, all the "women can't drive" machos. Everyone of them can tell you a dozen anecdotes where some woman was driving only 60 in a 50 zone and "holding up the traffic". Everyone of the them is swift to hand-wave an excuse as to why it doesn't count or is just normal, if you point out a guy doing something even more stupid. But the funny thing is, last I saw a statistic from an insurance company (you know, the guys who tally up the accidents because they pay for them and have to adjust their premiums based on it), the average woman caused only _half_ as many accidents per mile driven as the average guy. Actually the absolute worst category isn't the women, it's the very young guys who drive like it proves their penis size. So that skewed perception doesn't actually match reality.

    Which is why we do studies and polls, and don't rely on what Jack who works at GameStop remembers offhand.

    Additionally, retailers... which retailers? Did you poll all of them? Or what?

    Because for example the biggest games retailer in the USA is WallMart, not the mom-and-pop franchises that all the kiddies hang around. For every kid that hangs around EB Games all day and maybe buys a new game every two months, there'll be several moms and pops who get their stuff from WallMart and move on. And a bunch of other people get their games from electronics supermarkets like (at least here) Saturn, MediaMarkt, and the like. You won't see hordes of kids hanging around the aisles there. And I doubt that any given employee at such a big store has the time to hang around and see who takes what off the aisles.

    So if you're using some games-only shop as your source, you're looking at a prime representation of the Biased Sample fallacy. What you see is actually just saying what kind of people hang around their shop, not a random sample of gamers as a whole.

    It's like having a poll on Slashdot and concluding that 90% of the population are computer-savy nerds, and 50% run linux on the desktop. Or like having a poll on Sony's site and concluding that 4 times more people have a PS3 than a Wii, and 5 times more have a PSP than a DS.

    The number of games bought FOR children is nearly impossible to determine except by firsthand knowledge.

    Actually that "firsthand knowledge" is skewed again. Especially during the peak of the "games are for children only, and women never play games" mentality, a lot of people and especially women pretended to buy their games for a non-existent kid. Just because that seemed like the more socially acceptable kind of thing.

    So unless said employee actually followed that guy/gal home and saw who's playing the game, it is _not_ first hand knowledge of it. It's at best an pretentious ass trying to defend a stereotype.

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  5. So basically... by Moraelin · · Score: 4, Insightful

    So, basically, you just told me that only the buyers know who they buy it for. Yet you insist that studies which actually asked the buyers are wrong, but the perception of some retail employee who didn't is better? Because you just used the latter as some kind of proof or at least hint that the former are BS. I'm not sure I follow that logic, then.

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    1. Re:So basically... by mr_gorkajuice · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Yet you insist that studies which actually asked the buyers are wrong

      Did not say, much less insist that.

      You didn't? What's this then...

      The majority of console/computer/card/board gamers are people under 30. This is not even worth refuting as you can simply ask any retail worker in any store. Anywhere.

  6. Re:Games are "becoming" a social activity? by Drakkenmensch · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Why do so many people keep arguing that gaming is not a real social activity unless non-gamers are involved? Are sports also disqualified as a social activity because non-sport fans dislike taking part or talking about sports? Talk about a double standard here.