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Belgian ISP Scores Victory In Landmark P2P Case
secmartin writes "Belgian ISP Scarlet scored an important victory in the first major European test of copyright law. The interim decision forcing them to block transfers of copyrighted materials via P2P has been reversed, because the judge agreed with Scarlet that the measures the Belgian RIAA proposed to implement proved to be ineffective. A final decision is expected next year."
Thats not a landmark victory, thats a "your honor their idiots their idea doesn't work" "your right don't waste your time."
All they got there was a "That doesn't work" not a "you can't do that"
I hope "ISP" means waffles and "P2P" means syrup!
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We're going to need a better term than
"[name of country that is not America] RIAA"
Since the last "A" stands for America
I propose RIA* and MPA*
[/Serious]
Collectively, they can be referred to as **A*
[Fuck Beta]
o0t!
If people use public transportation to move 'stolen' goods, does that mean stores should have the right to sue the transit authorities running the bus systems? Because that's pretty much what that case amounts to.
http://transformativeworks.org/
Think I can solve this with a Twitter analogy:
Slashdot has an insane user called Twitter, he comes out with a lot of weird shit, just like the RIAA. Then a user called freenix appears and spouts the same weirdness, as do a bunch of other users. They all have different names and UIDs than Twitter but, if it talks like Twitter, if it doesn't post anything other than support for Twitter, it's safe to assume that it is Twitter.
The same is true of the Belgian RIAA: if it talks like the RIAA and litigates like the RIAA, it's safe to assume that it is the RIAA.
Think about it, the RIAA is made up of the world's most powerful record labels. They may have registered different names, but they're the same beast underneath. :)
I'm afraid you've been misinformed.
There's no real victory here. At least, not what we on Slashdot would call a victory. The judgement still stands. The only thing that's been revoked is the penalty of 2500 euro per day the ISP does not actively block illegal downloads on its network.
The judge explicitly asked Scarlet to keep looking for "a technical solution to suit the decision of the court".
The final decision (and our last chance at a real victory) is scheduled for October 2009.
You're not very familiar with Sabam, are you? They've been acting "all American" for as long as I can remember.
Think about it, the RIAA is made up of the world's most powerful record labels. They may have registered different names, but they're the same beast underneath. :)
Yes and no. Of course the RIAA and its Belgian "counterpart" SABAM are strongly linked through their members, but they're not just "the RIAA registering under a different name". SABAM was founded in 1922, and represents not only the recording industry (let alone only the US one), but also independent authors, composers, etc. In fact, one of my grandfathers - who was a composer - was one of the founding members. The problem is that in reality the small guys have no say whatsoever in this game, be they producers (with which I mean: authors & performers) or consumers of music. Only big money rules and that usually is in the hands of people who themselves don't contribute anything culturally substantial at all.
Linux user since early January 1992.
Oh man, don't get me starting about SABAM. I compose my own music for websites (using garagaband!) and EVERY TIME i get a letter from them asking me what source/author i used so they can bill me. I really really really hate them.
I actually work in the media area and have negotiated contracts with these guys.. A couple of nice examples: They actually sued an artist over using his OWN song on his OWN website, cause the artist had a contract with them, so sabam should do all his copyright related stuff and he never asked them for permission to put his own intellectual property on his own website... Their contracts still speak of "Phonograph" (yes.. like Thomas Edison did) when they mean "songs" or "tracks".. And they think they can tell isp's how to do their stuff ? Damn.. they still prefer a fax over an e-mail..