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Chrome Helping Other Browsers Out, Says Opera CEO

Pablo Martinez-Almeida writes "Opera CEO Jon S. von Tetzchner confirms that new entrants in the browser market are raising awareness on the mainstream Internet community about the availability of alternatives to the ubiquitous Internet Explorer. 'How has the emergence of WebKit and Chrome changed the market for you? JvT: The effect of Chrome so far has been 20 percent more downloads every day. It's fairly logical when you think about it, because the biggest hurdle we have is all those people that don't realize there's an alternative in the market. Now, with the launch of Chrome there's focus on the choice of browsers in the market.'

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  1. Re:Chrome for me? by MilesAttacca · · Score: 4, Informative

    CrossOver Chromium is exactly what you're looking for. It's not officially by Google, but ported by CodeWeavers, the WINE folks.

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  2. Re:story title edit: by JeepFanatic · · Score: 5, Informative

    If I'm not mistaken, Safari uses WebKit as its rendering engine just like Chrome does. This might account for any similarity in quirky behavior.

  3. Re:Opera Mozilla by Kyro · · Score: 3, Informative

    I use per-site preferences instead of noscript when I use Opera.
    At the moment I use it with Javascript turned on in the main preferences and then when I come to a site with completely intrusive ads (hello /.) I use the site-preferences to turn off Javascript for that domain.

    I just right click and choose "Edit site preferences". It's great!
    I just can't believe google haven't got gmail working with opera correctly yet, it's a bit buggy.

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  4. IMO by EncryptedSoldier · · Score: 2, Informative

    My browser of choice is Firefox. I have it setup just exactly the way I like it, and some of the tweaks are not available in Opera. If they were, I would use Opera. The other browsers I use/have tried other than FF and Opera are: Chrome, IE8 Beta, and Safari. I can say I loath IE8 and Safari, and Chrome has a lot of useless features that are sometimes annoying. Google has a lot of work to do if they even bother. Opera is fast, and feature rich, and has a very modern feel. Firefox is Firefox, I don't think I need to explain that to anybody on Slashdot.

  5. Re:Opera Mozilla by Jugalator · · Score: 4, Informative

    Are you sure you're aware of Opera's full feature set?

    Opera has both per-site Noscript and Noscript by default, it's up to you.

    Right-click on a website, pick "Edit site preferences..." and uncheck "Enable Javascript" for the domain if you want. Or disable Javascript for the entire application, and check Enable Javascript for the sites you wish.

    As for blocking ads, right-click on the site with ads and pick "Block content..." -- wildcards are supported. The only thing I miss there is a subscription like that in Adblock, but after having blocked the most common sites, I don't get ads nearly as much anymore.

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  6. Re:Opera Mozilla by BladeMelbourne · · Score: 2, Informative

    I don't see adds either.

    Download the url filter:
    http://www.fanboy.co.nz/adblock/opera/

    and also get the CSS "element hide" file.

    It's not AdBlock, but I don't see advertisements anymore. 5 minutes is a small price to pay :-)

  7. Re:Chrome for me? by arcade · · Score: 5, Informative

    I have had system lockups, but not often (not every year). However, if your system locks up "softly" it's very easy:

    1. ctrl+alt+F(1-8). That is, F1 - F8. Log in there, find the process, kill it.
    2. If the machine doesn't take your keys immediately, try "alt+sysrq r" , which switches your keyboard from XLATE to RAW mode. Then go to 1.
    3. ssh into the machine from another machine and kill the misbehaving process
    4. ctrl+alt+backspace (kills X and all applications running in your X session).

    Knowing the above tricks, you'll get way fewer lockups. The usual suspects for lockups in my case has been funky graphics cards and laptops with funny sleep/suspend/hibernate modes.

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  8. Re:holy chrome partisan zeal batman by hairyfeet · · Score: 2, Informative

    Well,I don't know about him but I prefer the versatility of Gecko myself. When a customer comes in with older hardware or they only care about speed I can give them Kmeleon,if they are into the social sites I can give them Flock,the old folks that still like to download their mail I give Seamonkey,and for the everyday Joes I give Firefox. I have also started giving out Songbird,which is also based on FF,thus the Gecko engine,and so far folks are really liking it. If Firefox wants to know where the next "Firefox killer" is going to come from,IMHO they just need to look in the mirror. Their engine is so easy to customize that I wouldn't be surprised if the next big thing ran Gecko under the hood.

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  9. Re:Chrome for me? by multisync · · Score: 2, Informative

    just press ctl-alt-f1

    I've had X lockups that prevented ctl-alt-f* from working. The gpp wasn't a complete troll, sometimes the virtual consoles are not available. That's why I always run an ssh server on my machines, so I can get access to a command line from the outside if necessary.

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  10. Re:Chrome for me? by bendodge · · Score: 4, Informative

    I also like Ctrl+Alt+Esc, which gives me a nice X cursor and nukes something I click. I don't know if this works outside of KDE4.

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  11. Re:Opera Mozilla by mdm-adph · · Score: 2, Informative

    Aye -- that's why NoScript (on Firefox) has the best solution, that I've seen. Simply block all other domains from serving ads or running JavaScript, except for the one you currently navigated to. Exceptions (CDN's used by developers, authentication servers) are rare and handled on a case-by-case basis.

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  12. Re:wer by Huntr · · Score: 4, Informative

    Opera hasn't had an ad banner in a few generations.

  13. Re:Chrome for me? by steeviant · · Score: 2, Informative

    Try Alt-SysRq-K instead next time.

  14. Re:wer by PerfectlyNormal · · Score: 2, Informative

    I wonder when people will stop spreading these lies. Opera is neither adware, nor payware, and haven't been for several years. It's now free as in beer, but not speech, or however that saying goes.

  15. Just as chrome helps Opera, Apple blocks them by Chris_Keene · · Score: 2, Informative

    Apple Blocking Opera on the Iphone
    http://www.osnews.com/comments/20455

    (blocking legit apps on the iphone is one of the stupidest things Apple has done in a long time)

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  16. Re:Chrome for me? by TheRaven64 · · Score: 2, Informative

    Yes, I am well aware of it, since I wrote some of that LLVM and clang code. Clang, however, is a drop-in replacement for GCC. The llvm compiler driver will accept all of the same options as GCC (clang currently uses a ccc script, but it is moving over to llvmc2 soon), so the toolchain will have exactly the same interface.

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