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Magnetic Portals Connect Sun and Earth

MaxwellEdison writes "Scientists have discovered evidence of magnetic portals connecting the Earth and the Sun every 8 minutes. 'Several speakers at the Workshop have outlined how FTEs form: On the dayside of Earth (the side closest to the sun), Earth's magnetic field presses against the sun's magnetic field. Approximately every eight minutes, the two fields briefly merge or "reconnect," forming a portal through which particles can flow. The portal takes the form of a magnetic cylinder about as wide as Earth. The European Space Agency's fleet of four Cluster spacecraft and NASA's five THEMIS probes have flown through and surrounded these cylinders, measuring their dimensions and sensing the particles that shoot through.'"

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  1. Another misleading headline by mbone · · Score: 4, Insightful

    "Magnetic Portals Connect the Solar Wind and the Earth's Magnetosphere" would be much better.

    1. Re:Another misleading headline by Tottec · · Score: 2, Funny

      RTFA

    2. Re:Another misleading headline by strider200142 · · Score: 5, Informative

      Sorry, headline is correct. The Earth's magnetic field lines and the Sun's field lines are connecting every 8 minutes. The fact that they connect allows a stream of the solar wind into the Earth's magnetosphere and/or atmosphere. The article clearly states that the magnetic field of the sun and the earth become coupled every 8 minutes. Since this is an article posted on nasa.gov I'd like to assume that it isn't just another example of bad science journalism. Especially since it makes sense ;)

    3. Re:Another misleading headline by MrNaz · · Score: 2, Informative

      It'd be a scale model if you were talking about a pea and an exercise ball.

      Although, yes, you are right, the OP has absolutely no appreciation of scale if he thinks that our action has any effect on the Sun's activity.

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    4. Re:Another misleading headline by kchrist · · Score: 2, Funny

      I'd rather see "Magnetic" changed to "Magic". That's how I read it at first and it sounds much better.

  2. Well-done, NASA! by TrekkieTechie · · Score: 5, Funny

    Now you're thinking with portals!

    1. Re:Well-done, NASA! by tcolberg · · Score: 5, Funny

      Speedy solar particles go in, speedy solar particles come out!

    2. Re:Well-done, NASA! by Jarjarthejedi · · Score: 3, Funny

      This next magnetic field configuration is impossible...

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    3. Re:Well-done, NASA! by Lordnerdzrool · · Score: 3, Funny

      Nonsense. They are only in it for the cake at the end.

    4. Re:Well-done, NASA! by Glyphstream · · Score: 5, Funny

      Congratulations. You euthanized your NASA test module more quickly than any test subject on record.

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  3. 8 light-minutes by Megahard · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Is the Earth-Sun distance. Coincidence?

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    1. Re:8 light-minutes by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Insightful

      There is probably some form of resenace effect going on after all magnetic fields propagate at the speed of light so a coincidence seems unlikely.

    2. Re:8 light-minutes by MrNaz · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Magnetic fields do *not* propagate at the speed of light, and I cannot believe fyou got marked "insightful" despite the obviousness that you have no idea what you are talking about. You are talking about astrophysical dynamics, yet you can't even spell "resonance".

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    3. Re:8 light-minutes by seann · · Score: 2, Funny

      Maybe we can use a large sphere or ring shaped device made up of a super strong magnetic metal that can create its own gravity field.

      With this device we may be able to travel at the speed of light to the sun!

      In fact, if we increase the magnetic s of this device and focus it on another "sphere" or ring device, maybe we can travel faster than the speed of light! We could have instantaneous travel!

      Wow. Somebody should make a movie or tv show about this. We could call it Sphere Gate or The Ring .

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  4. The Summary by sokoban · · Score: 5, Funny

    Is a lie.

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    1. Re:The Summary by MrMista_B · · Score: 3, Funny

      Okay, that's good to know. Care to elaborate on why?

    2. Re:The Summary by MrMista_B · · Score: 3, Informative

      Was modded 'informative' earlier.

  5. THEMIS Probes by sokoban · · Score: 5, Funny

    Naw them ain't probes, them is aliens.

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  6. STARGATE!!!! by Macrat · · Score: 5, Funny

    Now we just need to find Daniel Jackson.

    1. Re:STARGATE!!!! by FudRucker · · Score: 3, Informative

      i rather find Jack Daniels :D

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    2. Re:STARGATE!!!! by Culture20 · · Score: 4, Funny

      Can't be. The Sun isn't covered in Canadian forests.

  7. Learn something new every day by Quarters · · Score: 5, Funny

    On the dayside of Earth (the side closest to the sun)

    Really? How fascinating!

    1. Re:Learn something new every day by zappepcs · · Score: 3, Funny

      Actually, I find this rather interesting. For me the next question is how can this, or how does this affect global climate?

    2. Re:Learn something new every day by TenDollarMan · · Score: 5, Funny

      I'm from the day side of the earth and am really getting a kick out of these replies.

    3. Re:Learn something new every day by lysergic.acid · · Score: 5, Interesting

      we, the people of the night side of earth, object to the hotheaded policies of the day side government. despite all of your anti-nighttime propaganda, your DST ploy to temporally encroach on our borders is plain to see. thus you have broken the circadian treaty that has kept peace between our two nations. we will not stand for this diurnal threat to our coolheaded & peace-loving society.

      we declare war on the heathen sun-worshipers to, once and for all, bring an end to their sidereal tyranny. the crepuscular revolution has begun!

    4. Re:Learn something new every day by ozmanjusri · · Score: 3, Funny
      how does this affect global climate?

      It makes it warmer.

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    5. Re:Learn something new every day by tm2b · · Score: 4, Funny

      It makes it warmer.

      Every 8 minutes. We call the time 4 minutes later "mini ice minutes."

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    6. Re:Learn something new every day by Fluffeh · · Score: 2, Insightful

      It makes it warmer.

      Every 8 minutes. We call the time 4 minutes later "mini ice minutes."

      Lordy, MOD that PARENT up. That's utter gold!

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  8. Point of the article by NigelTheFrog · · Score: 2

    From what I gather from one quote in the article, scientists always suspected these; it's the fact that it's not a constant connection that was news.

  9. FTE = Flus Transfer Event by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Please, for the love of Helios and Demeter, spell out throw-away acronyms in summaries. It's annoying to read "Several speakers at the Workshop have outlined how FTEs form", and not being told what an FTE is. I really shouldn't have to RTFA[1] to discover that FTE = "Flux Transfer Event". It throws me off track when I read "how FTE are formed", and my brain translates to "how Frozen Talking Elephants are formed".

    [1] If you need this acronym spelt out, perhaps you should be on digg.

  10. Well at least we have by Troy · · Score: 3, Interesting

    the main plot device for next summer's blockbuster movie (tentatively titled "Star Portal").

    -T

    PS. Porno directors are already casting for the X-rated adaptation, tentatively titled "Star Hole"

  11. Aurora Borealis? by collywally · · Score: 5, Interesting

    FTA:
    "the cylindrical portals tend to form above Earth's equator and then roll over Earth's winter pole"

    I wonder if that's why the aurora borealis seems to crawl across the sky. I seem to remember (from when I lived in the high north) that it happened in fairly regular intervals. The "every eight minuets" seems to ring true as the time between each pass of the light though I haven't been there in eight years so I might just be remembering it wrong.

  12. 8.32 light minutes by Mal-2 · · Score: 5, Insightful

    It is 93 million miles, or 8.32 light minutes, separating Sun and Earth (center to center) -- the magnetosphere will be slightly less. Coincidence? I hope they are investigating some sort of possible resonance or standing wave that is directly related to this distance.

    Mal-2

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    1. Re:8.32 light minutes by jd · · Score: 4, Interesting

      It struck me that there was a similarity between the timing of the portals and the distance, too. Now, we know of other planets in the solar system with a strong magnetosphere, so in addition to your suggestions, I'd also ask if NASA is looking to see if similar corridors exist for other planets and whether there is any similar correlation between their portals and distance.

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    2. Re:8.32 light minutes by NotNormallyNormal · · Score: 3, Insightful
      Unfortunately, this 8 minutes would have nothing to do with the speed of light. The magnetic field emanating from the sun (interplanetary magnetic field) is 'frozen-in' to the plasma streaming out from the sun (solar wind). The solar wind velocity is usually between 300 and 700 km/s - this makes the trip MUCH longer than 8 minutes.

      The frozen-in condition follows from Maxwell's equations. Data from the ACE satellite show this is exactly the case. Therefore, as the solar wind speed increases, the IMF will reach the Earth faster. In the case of major solar events - such as coronal mass ejections (CME) - the solar wind speed is usually very high and we see the effects of the magnetic field and particles about 1 day after the 'light' (X-rays, visible light, etc) reaches the Earth.

  13. I'll elaborate for you by apparently · · Score: 5, Funny

    O <-- this is the sun.

    WHOOSH <-- this is the WHOOSH going over your head.
    . <-- you.
    o <-- this is the earth.

    1. Re:I'll elaborate for you by master5o1 · · Score: 2, Funny

      If I'm the dot, and the sun is the upper-case O, then you must be calling me fat you insensitive clod.

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    2. Re:I'll elaborate for you by WeblionX · · Score: 2, Funny

      It's a rounding error.

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  14. Re:Who tagged "!ipods"? by camperdave · · Score: 4, Funny

    It doesn't have anything to do with iPods which is exactly why it was tagged NOT iPods.

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  15. Planets Aligned by Dersaidin · · Score: 5, Interesting

    So something cool might actually happen when all the planets are aligned? Portal from Sun to Neptune?

    1. Re:Planets Aligned by Cassius+Corodes · · Score: 4, Funny

      Why is it always a trinket that gives you powers - why is it never a pair of pants or a left shoe.

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    2. Re:Planets Aligned by Dunbal · · Score: 2, Informative

      Since Pluto is no longer a planet, its portal privileges have been revoked.

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  16. let me be the first to say by circletimessquare · · Score: 3, Funny

    <keanureevesvoice>

    "whoa"

    </keanureevesvoice>

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    1. Re:let me be the first to say by TubeSteak · · Score: 3, Funny

      And the sequel:

      <keanureevesvoice>

      "whoa"

      </keanureevesvoice>

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  17. Particles straight from the sun, by DragonTHC · · Score: 3, Funny

    and I'm still alive.

    In the sun's magnetic portal,

    and I'm still alive.

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  18. Re:Who tagged "!ipods"? by denzacar · · Score: 5, Funny

    Well... it is true at least, right?

    Lets add other fun !-tags.

    Lets see... !aardvark, !aardwolf, !aargau, !aare, !aaron, !aascu...

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  19. The explanation is a lie by tepples · · Score: 5, Informative

    This article is about magnetic portals. Portal is also the title of a first-person adventure game for PC developed and published by Valve. One of the catchphrases from Portal is "The cake is a lie!", hence sokoban's comment "The summary is a lie".

    1. Re:The explanation is a lie by Dutch+Gun · · Score: 3, Interesting

      Except portal wasn't developed by valve, it was a senior year project for digipen...

      Not exactly. The precursor to Portal (Narbacular Drop) was developed by Digipen students. Valve subsequently hired said students to develop the game commercially using the Source engine, and Portal was born.

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  20. Yes, but... by jd · · Score: 4, Insightful

    (a) this is Slashdot, and (b) this is Halloween. How on Earth do you expect to find a sensible summary given a juxtaposition like that?

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  21. Re:I would advise them against... by morgan_greywolf · · Score: 2, Funny

    Dude. You've been watching wayyy too much SG-1. Really.

  22. Re:how long... by bluefoxlucid · · Score: 2, Funny

    i.e. to shoot your ass into the sun at the speed of light and prevent your stupid ass from breeding?

  23. Re:how about the moon? by bluefoxlucid · · Score: 3, Informative

    The moon does not have a giant molten core of metal being continuously entagled in the sun's magnetic field and forced to rotate by the constant orbit of the earth around the sun to generate more heat and its own counter-field.

  24. (c) Headline too long. by Xenographic · · Score: 3, Insightful

    > (a) this is Slashdot, and (b) this is Halloween. How on Earth do you expect to find a sensible summary given a juxtaposition like that?

    (c) That headline is too long.

    It's (c) that kills a lot of good headlines, honestly, but there's only so much space on the front page for those headlines to fit.

  25. Portals or a series of tubes? by Camel+Pilot · · Score: 2, Interesting

    These portals I suspect are just a series of tubes.

    The sun is just like a big truck that dumps particles into these tubes and it can be an enormous amount of material.

    This message approved by the corrupt and out of touch Republicans for science

  26. Re:how about the moon? by sumdumass · · Score: 4, Funny

    But wouldn't it be cool if it did?

  27. Teleportation by Translation+Error · · Score: 2, Funny

    I predict this is the key that will finally unlock the secret of teleporting matter! Unfortunately, it will only allow us to teleport things directly to the sun...

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    1. Re:Teleportation by kge · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Maybe we can use it to teleport our nuclear waste to the sun?

    2. Re:Teleportation by stile99 · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Really? *runs off to patent teleporting things to the sun as a means of trash disposal*

  28. Re:how long... by Firehed · · Score: 3, Funny

    That would be a terribly depressing eight minute journey. Unless you became a human comet and smashed into Mercury or something, which would just be badass.

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  29. Re:electric universe kooks by VisualFuture · · Score: 2, Informative

    Wow. Another response lacking any hard information. What a complete surprise.

    > Perhaps it is time to review some basic physics.

    And electrodynamics. Remember Faraday? Maxwell?

    > Wikipedia is your friend.
    My friends have names like Andrea, and Jessica, and Bob. Maybe you should get out more.

    Seriously, can anyone answer the question?

    For the previous response:
    http://thunderbolts.info/

  30. which one? there 4 days sides to the earth by circletimessquare · · Score: 3, Funny

    you don't believe Dr. Gene Ray, Cubic and Wisest Human? don't tell me you are an academic deified Queer

    <size 36 red font>

    It is impossible for an academic
    deified Queer ONE god to give
    birth to, or breast-feed a Baby.
    Bible fraud will destroy fools,
    and they will eat one another.
    Adam and Eve never existed.
    Without profit, there is no god.
    Believers will actually eat dung
    before they will ever measure
    their queer Godism for Cubic
    Creation Truth. Just the other
    Day in the NEWS, they were
    worshipping their god image
      in Vomit.

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  31. Thanks for straightening this out.. by glitch23 · · Score: 3, Insightful
    for us:

    On the dayside of Earth (the side closest to the sun),

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  32. Use for planet detection? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Exactly!

    Could this be used to detect planets (which have a magnetic field)? The delay between subsequent magnetic portal anomalies should give approximate distance from central Sun to the planet.

    And do other planets (with magnetic fields) exhibit this magnetic portal as well? Then the Sun should somehow contain a magnetic "signal" which is a superposition of all of those. With Fourier analysis we should be able to make out the components, thus finding out how many planets (with magnetic fields) there are and their distances from the central star.

    And a bit more sci-fi idea: could we use this for communication purposes - make the Sun or the portal "ring" with our message? Kind of like lighting a big enough lamp to be seen from a further distance.

    And something to think about: how do binary stars behave... Are they in resonance?

  33. I was thinking of a stargate time warp by cheekyboy · · Score: 3, Funny

    And if you combine with a solar flare at the right time do we get to go back to 1969 in the age of cheap intel shares, and cheap pot and free lsd?

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  34. Research from 1979 by AikonMGB · · Score: 2, Informative

    Looks related to this research done in the late seventies.

    C.T. Russell and R.C. Elphic. ISEE observations of flux transfer events at the dayside mangetopause. Geophyiscal Research Letters, vol. 6, pp.33-36, 1979.

    Aikon-