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Charity Refuses Donation Because of D&D Connection
An anonymous reader writes "This year's GenCon Charity Auction
raised over $17,000 which they intended to donate to Gary Gygax's favorite charity,
Christian Children's Fund.
However, the charity refused the donation when they learned of its connection to Dungeons & Dragons." It seems to me all they would need to do is cast remove curse or dispel evil and the money would be fine to use.
In their rush to paint Christians as idiots, the editors failed to notice this addendum to TFA:
Some of my fellow faith-mates do make the rest of us look pretty silly. But the non-religious folks apparently have a knee-jerk reaction that would make Dr. Dobson proud.
Stressed? Me? Of course not. Stress is what a rubber band feels before it breaks, silly.
Bunch of idiots.
From the link:
Nothing to see hear, Move along.
Just to be clear - they did not turn it down because of the D&D connection but because of policies in place about how they filter the funds they take that may make them appear to endorse events they do not control. This is completely normal and sensible. I am sure they would love to have the money - but they aren't going to put themselves into a position that violates policies put into place for a good reason. And to save you the time of a click and page load:
Christian Childrenâ(TM)s Fund made the decision to decline the gift from Gen Con, LLC as the request presented to us gave the appearance that CCF (the organization) was an endorser or supporter of a gaming convention, which CCF was not. As many non-profit organizations, CCF is selective in its endorsements or support in order to maintain the integrity of its name and logo. We cannot lend our name to an event for which we have no involvement. This decision should in no way be interpreted as CCF holding an opinion on Mr. Gygax, gaming enthusiasts or the game Dungeons and Dragons.
It's hard to believe that's how Micronians are made. Why don't we see it right now by having you both kiss one another?
Even if the charity is refusing the donation on grounds which are nothing to do with D&D etc. it is still somewhat idiotic that a _charity_ is turning down a donation of any kind. I mean, I can understand if it came from the reincarnation of Hitler or something, but turning down a (high profile) donation because you don't "endorse" the event? What the heck?
That she palls around with White Collar Criminals.
Regards,
Kilgore Trout
Where does all the money go?
Hell, send the money to Child's Play. Great cause and run by gamers.
D&D supports creationism, why else would monsters get spawned? They are not evolved, but just appear in spots = intelligent design.
....idle is pants?
Please stop.
I'm sure the kids that would have benefited from the money are completely behind this reasonable decision.
You just spoiled our fun!
I was hoping for a long thread bashing religion and its practitioners. But noooooooooo! You had to go and speak sense about this issue. Not only does it show the rationality of the CCF, but it also shows some rationality on the part of Christians - as much as you can show considering that you're a person that believes that a talking snake got a couple kicked out of the Garden of Eden 6,000 years ago. And then later God...god's son...the holy,,,ah fuck it! .. came down and saved us by getting killed by the Romans.
Come on mods, the parent was pretty funny. First thing to make me laugh all day.
"The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants." ~Thomas Jefferson
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Come on I knew about this over a month ago, its just now hitting /. ?????
I'm reminded of reporters slamming Ron Paul for taking money from white supremacists. He defended the action, his rationale being along the lines of "better I use it for my message than them for their white supremacy."
-- I prefer the term "karma escort."
I could see CCF's viewpoint if they were the ones giving money to Gen Con, or lending their logo as a sponsor/supporter, but instead, it's Gen Con giving CCF the money. How is accepting a donation supporting the donor? This sounds like BS to me.
I've built up so much character I have an alter-ego
Jesus loves World of Warcraft, not D and D
They should have the lawful good cleric make the donation next time instead of the chaotic neutral rogue.
Don't attach a name to it. Just submit the donation anonymously.
Bearded Dragon
can *never* be erased!
Mwah-ha-ha-ha-ha!
Some days it's just not worth
chewing through my restraints.
The Gary Gygax (co-creator of D&D) donated to this group for quite some time without any issues, but after all that, when they don't accept the cash people hurl accusations of D&D hatred? Doesn't work logically imo. It's possible management (therefore their philosophy) changed, but I haven't heard anything about that. While I personally think it makes little sense, imo I think we have to simply accpept the "we don't endorse this game conventions" rationale. It makes more sense than the "we hate D&D, thanks for the cash Gygax!" kneejerk pov.
They ship books, DVDs and video games to US soldiers serving in Iraq and Afghanistan and they could certainly use the cash.
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yes this is reasonable... i mean there are sick children dying and we don't want to appear to be connected to the "dark arts" so we let them die this is why nso amny people hate chiristianity the religion is to vain its an appearance nnow whether or not the realise it the number of christians is declining because of slack in care for humans
First, yes, this is stupid, but I think I understand what the reasoning might be.
You wonder why they would take Gygax's money, but not the money from the convention? Money from one individual donor is easily 'lost' in the noise, so they probably never knew about the connection. But, I suspect that CCF is worried that if they were publicly associated with taking a moderately large donation from a D&D convention, it would hurt their other donation streams from the conservative Christians.
Unfortunately, people running charities have to deal with all the baggage associated with their donors. They want to help children. You ask why they don't take the 17k and help the children? Because, honestly, taking the 17k now might mean losing 100's of thousands over the next year or two, if there were a backlash amongst evangelicals, so they have to weigh what helps the children the most over the long term.
There's no way they should accept money from that evil group. Through their books they have corrupted generations and exploited them in pursuit of money. They have taken the minds of children and warped them into obsessive cultists...
Wait, hang on - silly me. I read the article backwards.
Genesis 1:32 And God typed
When, in the history of charitable giving, has accepting a donation constituted an endorsement of the donor? They just don't want to have any perceived associated with D&D, at all, which is particularly vile for an organization that claims to be:
a) Christian
b) a Children's fund
This isn't about Christians being pariahs, it's about gamers being pariahs, and adding that statement to the very brief story summary would have in no way changed this fact.
There's no failure quite as dissatisfying as a complete and total solution to the wrong problem.
The whole stance taken by CFF may make us believe that the non profit organisation itself don't hold an opinion on d&d & related crowd, but they sure did take into account the opinions of their crowd and they truthfully reflect that opinion in their actions.
IF the donor really wants to support their fav charity,
let them put $17,000 into an plain, unmarked envelope
& ship it to the CCF's treasurer, marked "Anonymous
Donation" (or, to disguise the source further, they can
also slice that amount of money into parts, and ship
the parts in various, separate envelopes, variously
addressed by different hands and/or computer-labels
with various fonts/character attributes / sizes, etc.
Simple test...
Ah, now all those postings looking for someone who is D&D free make so much more sense.
Just have the money donated anonymously. CCF gets the benefit of the cash, GenCon gets the karma. Everybody wins, and nobody endorses anyone.
oz
The image of Jesus giving two thumbs up was the first thought. My second thought was "so what". In the worse case scenario the CCF thinks D&D is evil. It maybe sad but it's not a surprising stereotype being applied by both sides.
I've lost all my marbles except one & It's fun to test angular & centripetal acceleration in my skull
Jesus was the greatest priest ever dont let the bible fool you his stories and adventure all lie withing the D&D realms =D