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Discuss the US Presidential Election

We made it. It's election day. Tomorrow we'll know. So for today's election discussion story, I'm throwing it wide open: let's discuss the election itself. Who are your picks and why. And also what about your actual experience voting today? Did Diebold eat your vote or did everything go off without flaw?

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  1. My vote doesn't count by genka · · Score: -1, Flamebait

    I live in a "Deep Blue" state, so I know no matter who I will vote for, my vote will go for Obama bin Biden. I guess I'll go and vote for McPalin, just to bring my state closer to a center and draw more interest from future candidates.

  2. Re:switfboat by gandhi_2 · · Score: 1, Flamebait
    Well,

    "I think when you spread the wealth around, it's good for everybody". Obama

    Everyone is free to spread their wealth around all they want. If the government is going to spread YOUR wealth, it can only be done if the government owns your wealth. If the government owns your wealth, that's Marxism in a nutshell.

    Maybe you need an O'Reilly book. Liberals mean liberty about as much as Conservatives mean conservation.

  3. Re:Obama - A template for future US politics? by altoz · · Score: 0, Flamebait

    positive campaign? i really hope you're kidding.

    i've never seen so much vitriol from the left in my lifetime... especially against sarah palin. at least by my count, below-the-belt attacks were at an all time high.

    you may say that "hey, obama's not responsible"... but guess what? his surrogates went on tv talking about the negatives just as fervently as the right.

    before you flame me as a right wing nut, know i'm a registered democrat.

  4. 1000 years of darkness coming to an end? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Flamebait

    could happen. some of us think that the glowbull warmongering corepirate nazi execrable's hired goons should be put on display in glass cages, so that we never forget what can happen when felonious pawns seize control of our resources.

    greed, fear & ego (in any order) are unprecedented evile's primary weapons. those, along with deception & coercion, helps most of us remain (unwittingly?) dependent on its' life0cidal hired goons' agenda. most of yOUR dwindling resources are being squandered on the 'wars', & continuation of the billionerrors stock markup FraUD/pyramid schemes. nobody ever mentions the real long term costs of those debacles in both life & any notion of prosperity for us, or our children, not to mention the abuse of the consciences of those of us who still have one. see you on the other side of it. the lights are coming up all over now. conspiracy theorists are being vindicated. some might choose a tin umbrella to go with their hats. the fairytail is winding down now. let your conscience be yOUR guide. you can be more helpful than you might have imagined. there are still some choices. if they do not suit you, consider the likely results of continuing to follow the corepirate nazi hypenosys story LIEn, whereas anything of relevance is replaced almost instantly with pr ?firm? scriptdead mindphuking propaganda or 'celebrity' trivia 'foam'. meanwhile; don't forget to get a little more oxygen on yOUR brain, & look up in the sky from time to time, starting early in the day. there's lots going on up there.

    we note that yahoo deletes some of its' (relevant) stories sooner than others. maybe they're short of disk space, or something?
    http://news.google.com/?ncl=1216734813&hl=en&topic=n
    http://www.cnn.com/2008/TECH/science/09/23/what.matters.thirst/index.html
    http://www.nytimes.com/2007/12/31/opinion/31mon1.html?em&ex=1199336400&en=c4b5414371631707&ei=5087%0A
    (deleted)http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080918/ap_on_re_us/tent_cities;_ylt=A0wNcyS6yNJIZBoBSxKs0NUE
    http://www.nytimes.com/2008/05/29/world/29amnesty.html?hp
    http://www.cnn.com/2008/US/06/02/nasa.global.warming.ap/index.html
    http://www.cnn.com/2008/US/weather/06/05/severe.weather.ap/index.html
    http://www.cnn.com/2008/US/weather/06/02/honore.preparedness/index.html
    http://www.cnn.com/2008/TECH/science/09/28/what.matters.meltdown/index.html#cnnSTCText
    http://www.cnn.com/2008/SHOWBIZ/books/10/07/atwood.debt/index.html
    http://www.nytimes.com/2008/06/01/opinion/01dowd.html?em&ex=1212638400&en=744b7cebc86723e5&ei=5087%0A
    http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/06/05/senate.iraq/index.html
    http://www.nytimes.com/2008/06/17/washington/17contractor.html?hp
    http://www.nytimes.com/2008/07/03/world/middleeast/03kurdistan.html?_r=1&hp&oref=slogin
    (deleted, still in google cache)http://biz.yahoo.com/ap/080708/cheney_climate.html
    http://news.yahoo.com/s/politico/20080805/pl_politico/12308;_ylt=A0wNcxTPdJhILAYAVQms0NUE
    http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/09/18/voting.problems/index.html
    (deleted)http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20080903/ts_nm/environment_arctic_dc;_ylt=A0wNcwhhcb5It3EBoy2s0NUE
    (talk about cowardlly race fixing/bad theater/fiction?) http://money.cnn.com/2008/09/19/news/economy/sec_short_selling/index.htm?cnn=yes
    http://us.lrd.yahoo.com/_ylt=ApTbxRfLnscxaGGuCocWlwq7YWsA/SIG=11qicue6l/**http%3A//biz.yahoo.com/ap/081006/meltdown_kashkari.html
    http://www.nytimes.com/2008/10/04/opinion/04sat1.html?_r=1&oref=slogin
    (the teaching of hate as a way of 'life' synonymous with failed dictatorships) http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20081004/ap_on_re_us/newspapers_islam_dvd;_ylt=A0wNcwWdfudITHkACAus0NUE
    (some yoga & yogurt makes killing/getting killed less stressful) http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20081007/ap_on_re_us/warrior_mind;_ylt=A0wNcw9iXutIPkMBwzGs0NUE
    (the old bait & switch...your share of the resulting 'product' is a fairytail nightmare?)
    http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20081011/ap_on_bi_ge/where_s_the_money;_ylt=A0wNcwJGwvFIZAQAE6ms0NUE

  5. Re:My Opinion (From an Anabaptist Perspective) by Idimmu+Xul · · Score: 0, Flamebait

    i believe that, as a Christian, I owe my primary allegiance to the Kingdom of God, and that that allegiance is fundamentally at odds with the purposes of secular government

    Please don't vote, we don't need nutjobs influencing something as important as who governs a country.

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  6. Re:McCain FTW by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Flamebait

    McCain will start a full scale war because it feels good, and when everything is destroyed Sarah will teach creationism in our medieval-like society. Sounds like a plan.

  7. Re:No secret ballot? by Anivair · · Score: 0, Flamebait

    Boy, i sure am glad that New York is being carefully watched. Because I'm not sure which way New York will go. that Democratic vote might be iffy there. As I've said elsewhere, the Democrats would win New York if they ran a candidate named Baby-Killer von Hitler-Darth-Vader. Can we please get some people keeping an eye on, say, Ohio and Florida?

  8. Re:My Opinion (From an Anabaptist Perspective) by TheGratefulNet · · Score: 1, Flamebait

    I think its best that religious folks stay home.

    they've done ENOUGH DAMAGE to our political system already.

    'kingdom of god' - what are you smoking?? look around the world, mate; do you see ANY evidence of a christian god here?

    some people simply like fairy tales so much they can't tell that its just not real.

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  9. Re:McCain FTW by Theolojin · · Score: 0, Flamebait

    I just refuse to vote for someone who ran a filthy campaign whose only issue was "the other guy sucks." That's my favorite logical fallacy, the "argument from ignorance": the other guy is bad, so we must be better.

    Yeah, I agree. Senator Obama's campaign against [George W. Bush|John McCain] was centered on who Obama wasn't.

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  10. Re:switfboat by jmorris42 · · Score: -1, Flamebait

    > Are you kidding? They've been running Jeremiah Wright saying "Goddamn America" steadily on DirectTV the last couple days.

    That wasn't McCain, it's a 527 group. But what part of the ad do you think is unfair?

    Obama wasn't raised in that church and it wasn't just the closest one to him when he hit Chicago. He was organizing the black churches for political purposes and thus had the opportunity to sample the teachings of every church in the area and he picked Wright. Wright didn't go nuts after Obama joined, he was already teaching Cone's Black Liberation Theology.

    > Did you get the Republican party robocall about Ayers, that basically said Obama was a bomb throwing terrorist who would bomb the Pentagon.

    No they didn't say Obama is a bomb thrower, but it is 100% factual that Obama 'has no enemies on the left.' Riddle me this; name one close personal or professional associate of Sen. Obama that isn't a) a commununist radical, b) islamic extremist or c) part of the corrupt Chicago machine.

    > and it completely turned Independents, like me

    Bull. Anybody who is raving about 'swift boating' in light of McCain's campaign (Wright is a totally legit issue) ain't an Independent. Go troll some board where people don't have brains and they might believe that story.

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  11. Re:Barack Hussein Obama and David Duke by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Flamebait

    Don't you mean the independent Joe LIEberman? He is no democrat. And I know I am replying to a troll but you post proves exactly why people are sick of Republicans. If you walk around and think everyone is wrong and worse than you because they do not share your point of view then eventually you will alienate all those people and they will work against you. As Bill Maher said, "The Bush administration has become so bad that 7 years after 9/11, the American people decided it would be a good idea to elect a black man with a Muslim name." What does that tell you about the republican party. All you racist fucks can go eat shit! I wasn't even really an Obama supporter but I hope he cleas up just so I can laugh at complete imbeciles like you.

  12. Just get the damn thing over and done with already by crivens · · Score: 0, Flamebait

    Just get the damn thing over and done with already! I'm sick and tired of hearing about the election on the news here in Canada.

  13. Re:I'm only going to say by level_headed_midwest · · Score: 0, Flamebait

    It's the steady handOUT that Obama promises that has been promising that has been able to attract voters this year.

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  14. Re:Barack Hussein Obama and David Duke by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Flamebait

    The only problem is that McCain is the equivalent of Nazis. He flip flopped and supports torture now just like the Nazis. So all of the allies must unite to defeat the Nazi. Nazi, nazi, nazi.

  15. Re:switfboat by Rei · · Score: 1, Flamebait

    Remember Geraldine Ferraro being called a racist?

    For saying that black men get it easy in this country? Gee, I wonder why.

    McCain was cleared of any wrongdoing over the whole "Keating Five" thing, so the fact that you bring it up shows your ignorance or intentional deceit.

    Obama was never even *charged* with any wrongdoing. McCain was in a heck of a lot deeper. In Obama's case, it wasn't Rezko who bought the lot. His wife did, and she turned a profit on it.

    As for factcheck, I think they are full of crap too.

    Well, thanks for positioning yourself so far out in right field that you're in the parking lot.

    Let's see. Worked together for years... Check.

    On a charity board that met quarterly. Whoop-de-freaking-wow.

    Close friends? Debatable, but the coffee thing is pretty damning.

    A single campaign meet and greet, and you think this even *possibly* passes the "close friends* test?

    I didn't even see the Infant Born Alive Protection Act on factcheck's site. (Although I didn't look too hard)

    No kidding you didn't look hard. It's right there -- Born-Alive Baloney.

    Do you know that "Joe the Plumber" does not have a plumbing license in Ohio? It was widely reported.
    Do you know that "Joe the Plumber" does not need a license as a plumber to work as one as long as the company he works for has that license? That was NOT widely reported.

    Did you know that everything he said to Obama, from his income to his plans, is bunk? That he has a problem with actually paying his taxes, but if he did, he'd get three times larger of a tax cut under Obama's plan than McCain's?

    Do you know that William Ayers gives money to schools? Widely reported, but not true. William Ayers gives charity money to hand chosen companies to do stuff for schools.
    Do you know that one of the main points of William Ayers "education plan" is to teach children to question authority? Fine idea, but it should be taken with a grain of salt when the guy pushing recommended "killing pigs" and "killing your parents". This has not been reported by any news outlet.

    You're confusing Ayers and the Annenberg Challenge itself. Ayers was just one member of the board of the Annenberg Challenge. It has a diverse board; it was even founded by a member of the Nixon administration. Education Week says the group reflects mainstream thinking about education reform.

    But seriously, do you really want to play the "Did You Know" game with me?

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  16. Re:I'm only going to say by Shotgun · · Score: 0, Flamebait

    Maybe you prefer a great father in Washington to take care of all your ills and order your coming and goings, but a great many of us actually have a spine and prefer freedom. We're called adults. We do things like say, "Hmmm? A hurricane is coming and I live in a coastal city below sea level. Maybe I should get the hell outta' the way?" If we decide not to get out of the way, we don't whine that someone didn't come to take care of our ills.

    The adults among us do much better when the government does nothing.

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  17. Re:Barack Hussein Obama and David Duke by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Flamebait

    That's what they will all say isn't it?

    Fifty percent of the nation will think they have free shit coming their way because they voted for The One.

  18. Re:Barack Hussein Obama and David Duke by Foobar+of+Borg · · Score: 0, Flamebait

    Don't worry, you will be getting that in the form of raised taxes and a weaker economy. Enjoy!

    Yeah, just like when Clinton raised taxes and the economy went to shit. Dumbass.

    Can't you right-wing nuts come up with anything original? You've been spewing that same bullshit at least since Teddy Roosevelt. Of course, the fact that Teddy Roosevelt and Abe Lincoln were both Republicans should show how far the GOP has changed. If Teddy Roosevelt and Abe Lincoln were alive today and in politics, they would be skewered by the right the same way the right has been skewering Obama.