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How To Cut In Line and Not Get Caught

ewenc writes "A psychology study of hundreds of people waiting for front-row access to U2 concerts points to the best ways to cut in line and not get caught. 'Super-fans' are most irked by queue-jumpers. People were equally peeved whether someone cut in front or behind, and cutters who jumped beside a friend were less likely to attract scorn."

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  1. Re:And the reward for most useless researcher goes by dnwq · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Preventing people like acting like pricks? Someone has to design the crowd control system, you know.

  2. Just what we needed.. by !coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Oh great!

    Now science is coming to the aid of line-cutters everywhere.. Though I'm usually not the type of person willing to wait in line for hours (regardless of the reason), seeing someone cutting into a line (however short it may be) really pisses me off.

    It's one of those tell-tale things about a person's character. It implies, at the least, that the line-cutter lacks civility, or simply couldn't care less for "social norms". At the most, it's a sign of someone who simply thinks the "rules" do not apply to them, and everything that can get them ahead is fair game. In the latter case, it's also often accompanied with smugness: "stupid idiots waiting in line."

    Sure, cutting a line is by no means a serious offense. And in most cases these lines are purely informal, so one could make the argument that cutting the line is a simple display of expedience, and that no rules have been broken.. But seeing as though many of society's rules are entirely unwritten (and often unspoken), such attitude is disruptive to say the least. Not trying to spread FUD here, but it's the kind of thing that when widespread, brings nothing but chaos into even the most simple of things.

    1. Re:Just what we needed.. by rugatero · · Score: 3, Funny

      I dunno. In the UK at least you're liable to a severe tutting. Oh, the shame!

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    2. Re:Just what we needed.. by elrous0 · · Score: 4, Interesting

      I once saw a guy get stabbed for cutting in line at a heavy metal concert. Headbangers don't play that "Uhm...EXCUSE me you rude person!" crap.

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    3. Re:Just what we needed.. by gad_zuki! · · Score: 5, Interesting

      Maybe a little more that a tutting. My favorite queue jumping story is here:

      http://ask.metafilter.com/104881/Standing-In-Line#1516290

  3. What if a whole line tried cutting? by TomRC · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Suppose you're standing in line, and suddenly a whole line of people just slides into place right next to your line - at least as long as your line, in parallel, and apparently planning to enter into the venue in parallel.

    Do you object? Do you assume that a second line has been "officially" been opened and you just missed out?

    What if the new line of people has a lot more people than your line, and they start looking over at your line and saying "Hey - get to the back of the line! No cutting!" Does a fight break out - even if your line is obviously going to lose?

  4. Full study results by elrous0 · · Score: 4, Funny

    For full study results, see this month's Journal of American Douchebag Studies.

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  5. The best way by MadUndergrad · · Score: 5, Funny

    is to pretend you're doing a study on line cutting, and interview someone near the front just as they start letting people in. Then release an actual study to prevent reprisals. Then profit?

    1. Re:The best way by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Actually, you start your interviewing at the back of the line, moving forward as you go. Everyone knows you are just interviewing. Time it so that you are at the front when the gates open and just go in, continuing the current interview.

  6. Re:And the reward for most useless researcher goes by ceoyoyo · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Basic research doesn't always have immediate applications. Studying the psychology and sociology of lines is a hot topic among retailers though. How do you get people to line up like cattle and still have them feel like they're being treated reasonably well, and fairly? At least well enough that they come back. How does our society react to cheaters? The answer determines how many (and what kind) of cheaters will tend to exist. Are there differences between cultures or does our sense of fairness have some component that is innate to all humans?

  7. Re:And the reward for most useless researcher goes by onion2k · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Why does research have to have an immediately obvious purpose? I'm sure there have been millions of discoveries made by people just "messing around" with some aspect of science. This sort of thing is great in my opinion. If we only funded research that could be justified as "useful" the world would be a much more boring place.

  8. Instant Cut Priveleges by 192939495969798999 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Everyone knows there are a few ways to cut a line that work every time:
    1) be in a wheelchair,
    2) be carrying a screaming baby,
    3) have "credentials" of some kind.

    So if you have a press pass and a screaming baby and you're in a wheelchair, in theory you should be able to cut the restroom line in the last game of the world series, Boston at NYY, wearing a Boston hat, without getting a second look.

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    1. Re:Instant Cut Priveleges by beacher · · Score: 4, Funny

      When I was a kid at Six Flags I used to yell MOM! at the top of my lungs until I got towards the front of the line. Worked like a champ. I've changed it to calling out my kids names and asking if someone has seen my 8 year old, about yea high, etc etc... Sometimes I get called on it but it's usually worth the risk.

    2. Re:Instant Cut Priveleges by Rob+T+Firefly · · Score: 4, Informative

      You forgot one of the most obvious:

      4) Be a boobie-having female. Cut in front of a single guy, possibly after making eye contact and smiling slightly.

    3. Re:Instant Cut Priveleges by randyest · · Score: 4, Insightful

      I'm surprised that no one else has taken the time to point out that you are, in fact, a dick.

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  9. Re:And the reward for most useless researcher goes by ReverendLoki · · Score: 5, Funny

    Given the history of concentration camps, I'm not so sure I'd be all that eager to get in any line at all, let alone cut towards the front.

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  10. Re:Call in a bomb threat by dgatwood · · Score: 5, Funny

    Oddly enough, when I read the title "How To Cut In Line and Not Get Caught", the first thing I thought was, "Does it involve explosions?".

    The best way to cut in line without getting caught is to create a diversion, though I'll admit that explosions around a large crowd are probably not a good idea.... Controlled pyrotechnics, might do it, however, e.g. smoke bombs and/or carefully planted sparklers to make it look like an overhead electrical line is about to drop onto the crowd. A bunch of growling, barking dogs being chased down the street by their handlers might also do the trick. Other possibilities include a live bear, a cat fight between two hired actresses, or an alien spacecraft landing nearby... until somebody invents the SEP field, that is.

    Of course, an ideal plan would include all of the above simultaneously. Sadly, if someone has time to plan such an elaborate diversion, he/she probably has time to get in line earlier, and as such, everything in this post is a terrible idea. Remember, kids, don't try this at home....

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  11. Re:Umm.. No shit? by geekoid · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Becasue your one little piece of life is nothing more then an anecdote?

    Everybody knew things fell to the ground before Newton, did he waste his time?

    Sorry about anon, apparently having a few actual interesting stories(to me) happen at once means your going to hit the limit pretty damn quick.

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  12. Best method of cutting without getting caught: by Chris+Burke · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Murder everyone else in line.

    You may get caught for the murders, but no one will ever know you cut in line.

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    1. Re:Best method of cutting without getting caught: by MorderVonAllem · · Score: 5, Funny

      unless you use a knife

  13. Summed up how I feel by AmeerCB · · Score: 3, Funny
    Someone summarized exactly how I feel about this study in the comments section of the article:

    Someone really has too much money. Can I get a grant to do some research on fart smells?

  14. The Implicit Line Code by Deorus · · Score: 5, Insightful

    When I was at school there was an implicit code among students in which you could let all your friends get in the line AS LONG AS IT WAS IN FRONT OF YOU. Teachers couldn't understand how every student was fine with that, but since everyone accepted it and everyone benefited from it from time to time nobody ever complained.

  15. Re:Makes no difference by vux984 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Generally, I have more important things to care about than if I have to wait an extra minute and a half because 3 people just got in front of me.

    Agreed.

    How do you feel if its already been an hour, the line up is half way around the block, and people at the back will take an hour just to reach the position you are at now; and there is probably 50+ people and another half our so to wait in front of you.

    And then over that period, half a dozen groups of 5+ show up and join their various friends in front of you (we're talking couples meeting other couples, or groups of friends meeting other groups of friends -- not a boyfriend joining his wife, or the driver joining his group after parking here. This effectively adds another 30 people in front of you, pushing you back another 30 minutes, while speeding them up about an hour and a half.

    It gets ridiculous, and infuriating.

    I remember when the Wii and PS3 were selling out at launch and people were lining up. Some stores instituted one of the best trends I've ever seen to defeat this, and some lines even SELF ORGANIZED into doing this; they had someone give out numbers to the people as they arrived. One person got one number. (And they were limiting it to one unit per customer.) So if a group sends someone over to line up a 1am, and then his 5 friends showed up at 5 minutes to opening, they couldn't effectively cut in and score a Wii or PS3 while guys that had been there for hours lost out entirely.

  16. Re:And the reward for most useless researcher goes by j1mmy · · Score: 5, Funny

    no application, they just cut in line when the gov was handing out research grants

  17. Best queue jumping story by Pig+Hogger · · Score: 5, Funny
  18. Learning to wait by petehead · · Score: 5, Interesting

    I was at Disneyland a couple of weeks ago and a woman was pushing through people in the Pirates line with her ~4 year old son. We let her go by because it looked like they were rejoining someone up front. Then we heard the woman say to a group in front of us, "Sorry, he doesn't know how to wait". Well, how the hell is he going to learn?

    1. Re:Learning to wait by Dutch+Gun · · Score: 3, Interesting

      Damn, that's sad. Any bets that kid is going to grow up into a real mess?

      I have my own Pirates line story, oddly enough - it was a several hour wait in the hot summer sun. I was a youngster with my family, and a young couple was slowly cutting their way past everyone in line. My dad was the only one who didn't let them pass. After a few minutes, they tried to slip past us *again*. This time, my dad verbally unloaded both barrels on them, and they backed down for good.

      I was pretty impressed with my Dad for standing up for what he thought was the right thing, and not caring if it made a bit of a scene. A few people came up to him later and thanked him (while some others shied well away from him). Honestly, I'll bet most of the people who let them slip by wished they were able to do what my dad did - many likely figured like you did that they were meeting someone.

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  19. Article suggestions another possibility by TomRC · · Score: 4, Funny

    The article references "line Nazis" who mark everyone's hand with their position in line.

    Obviously, you write a "1" on your hand, walk to the front of the line, then walk back along the line counting people. 30 peole back, you write "31" on someone's hand, hand them a marker and tell them to work their way backwards while you work your way forwards. You get to the front of the line, write "2" on the first guy's hand, nod with satisfaction at a job well done, and turn to face front.

    If anyone objects, you just show them your hand...

  20. Re:And the reward for most useless researcher goes by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    It might look like I'm writing a reply to this post, but actually I'm just trying to get as close to the top of the page as possible.

  21. Re:And the reward for most useless researcher goes by Shinmizu · · Score: 3, Funny

    Why don't they just get a mage to polymorph them all into sheep like every other group that needs crowd control?

  22. Obviously First-world problem by chord.wav · · Score: 4, Funny

    Cuting in line a problem? Ha! In South America we don't have such problem, as there aren't any lines. We replace a long period of diciplined standing time with a short period of mayhem until you get through the gate.

  23. First Post!!!!1111 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Funny

    Hey somebody cut!

  24. Re:And the reward for most useless researcher goes by mattack2 · · Score: 3, Interesting

    While it wasn't scientific research like this, your post reminds me of Velcro, which was invented after George de Mestral looked at burrs caught in his dog's hair.

  25. Re:And the reward for most useless researcher goes by thomasinx · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Anyone who thinks this research is about learning how to cut in line needs to read the article. This is about what kinds of line-cutting annoys other line-goers the most.

    Another way to look at this is as disturbing a stable system to learn about it. People line up in queues everywhere, and do it without even thinking. This generates several interesting questions: Why? (is it a learned action?) What causes people to dislike it when people cut?(from individual standpoints, someone cutting in line behind you doesn't affect you at all) Why do some people cut in line, and others wait in line? By watching what happens when these lines get undermined, you can learn a bit about why they're created, as well as the respective thought processes.

    The point of the research is to try to understand the whole queueing process, not to learn how to be a dick.

  26. IMHO... by denzacar · · Score: 4, Funny

    Just because you had government sponsored dickery training and license at one time does not make it right.
    It just makes your dickery portfolio thicker with dickery experience unavailable to the average "civilian" dick.

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  27. think tactically by Fuji+Kitakyusho · · Score: 4, Interesting

    I have always found that the best way is to carry two cups of coffee, looking for someone near the front of the line who looks like they could use a cup (helps if it is cold out), offer them the second cup, strike up a brief conversation and slide through.

  28. Re:And the reward for most useless researcher goes by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    And I'm jumping in beside a friend. It's less likely to attract scorn.

  29. Re:And the reward for most useless researcher goes by ceoyoyo · · Score: 5, Informative

    When I was in Spain I noticed that the Spanish don't know how to form lines. It drives the Brits nuts. Spaniards kind of flock, which completely disturbs the nice orderly line that the British want to form.

  30. Re:And the reward for most useless researcher goes by houghi · · Score: 3, Funny

    It reminds me of Archimedes who, sitting in a tub, had an idea of a lightbulb above his head. Normaly you would say that it would be a stupid idea, having it when you are in a bath. Somehow the idea did catch on to have lightbulbs not only in the bathroom, but everywhere else as well.

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