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Argentine Judges Disappear Celebrities From Internet

An anonymous reader writes "Since 2006, Internet users in Argentina have been blocked from searching for information about some of the country's most notable individuals. Over 100 people have successfully secured temporary restraining orders that direct Google and Yahoo! Argentina to scrub the results of search queries. The list of censorship-seeking celebrities includes judges, public officials, models and actors, as well as the world-cup soccer star and national team head coach Diego Maradona. Try it yourself — compare the results for a Yahoo! Argentina search for Diego Maradona (0 results) to a search at Yahoo! Mexico and Google Argentina (both with millions of results)."

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  1. third-person singular simple present? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    Argentine Judges Disappear Celebrities From Internet

    Tomorrow:

    Slashdot Viewership Disappears Editors From Headlines

    1. Re:third-person singular simple present? by sakdoctor · · Score: 1

      Slashdot readers is throwing robots at us.

    2. Re:third-person singular simple present? by a+whoabot · · Score: 1, Insightful

      I think it's supposed to be the use of the transitive verb "disappear." Because quite literally the judges disappeared the celebrities from those search results -- no mobster euphemism for killing there.

    3. Re:third-person singular simple present? by Waffle+Iron · · Score: 4, Informative

      The usage here is appropriate, given that this particular usage was originally coined to refer to government abuses in Argentina and nearby states in the 1970s. As Wikipedia explains:

      In the case of forced disappearance the word disappear, which is properly an intransitive verb, becomes transitive. Victims, who are those who have disappeared, or the disappeared, are said to have been disappeared, rather than the more usual have disappeared. The perpetrators have disappeared them, rather than made them disappear.

    4. Re:third-person singular simple present? by John+Hasler · · Score: 2, Insightful

      The usage here is quite inappropriate as those who were "disappeared" in the 1970s were themselves victims of government repression while these celebrities are the beneficiaries thereof.

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    5. Re:third-person singular simple present? by Waffle+Iron · · Score: 3, Insightful

      The usage in this headline is an example of irony. It doesn't have to be an exact match for the original situation.

    6. Re:third-person singular simple present? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Informative

      Indeed.
      OED 3. trans. To cause to disappear.

      Self-righteous grammar fascists - it's a lot more impressive if you're correct.

    7. Re:third-person singular simple present? by bigstrat2003 · · Score: 1

      Slashdot Viewership Disappears Editors From Headlines

      Joke's on you! Can't take away what was never there, after all. ;)

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    8. Re:third-person singular simple present? by Kozar_The_Malignant · · Score: 3, Insightful

      In Catch-22, the Army disappeared Dunbar in the 1961 first edition, so I think it predates the Argentine nastiness.

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    9. Re:third-person singular simple present? by Lemmy+Caution · · Score: 1

      The use of the term "to disappear" as a transitive verb, in both English and Spanish, picked up considerable momentum during the period of the Argentine junta, and evokes memories of the military dictatorships of Latin American in the 1970's.

      It's very apt usage here. The grammar police in this case are missing the point.

  2. ummm. by rev_g33k_101 · · Score: 4, Funny

    when did the translators for zero wing start editing for slashdot?

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    1. Re:ummm. by haystor · · Score: 1

      What you say?!

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    2. Re:ummm. by hal2814 · · Score: 1

      Somebody set up us the bomb.

    3. Re:ummm. by VeNoM0619 · · Score: 1

      Could be an attempt at making all headlines sound like Yoda as well...

      If one must be disappeared,
      Disappear self, one must...

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    4. Re:ummm. by TaoPhoenix · · Score: 1

      How about the copyright owners of Borat?

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    5. Re:ummm. by Matt+Perry · · Score: 1

      when did the translators for zero wing start editing for slashdot?

      Slashdot is edited?!

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  3. Re:Don't use Google Argentina? by eln · · Score: 5, Funny

    It's not that easy. Google has thousands of operatives whose only job is to make sure people only use the Google authorized for their location. The consequences of straying from your designated Google are swift and severe.

    I was talking to a friend on the phone when we started talking about why Google would have all of these different pages for different countries, and we couldn't think of why. So, my friend decides to try a search result on Google US and then on Google Australia just to see if anything was different. He had barely hit enter on the Google Australia search when suddenly I heard glass breaking and what sounded like helicopters over the phone. My friend screamed, and the line went dead. No one has heard from him since.

    I tried to do some investigating of my own, and hit Google Mexico from an Internet cafe. Luckily, when the Google operatives burst through the front windows and started shooting the place up, I was able to escape through the back door. They were able to follow me with Google Earth, but I managed to give them the slip when I accidentally fell through an open manhole.

    I've been living in the sewers under the city ever since that day. I haven't dared try to contact anyone, for fear Google would find me. This is the first time I've even dared to try to connect to the 'net, and I can't stay long.

    Wait, I hear footsteps...

    Oh shit, they're here! WARN THE OTHE^&^4wg4$^

    NO CARRIER

  4. Fix the damn CSS (or whatever) by Yvan256 · · Score: 1

    Can't click on the " Yahoo! Mexico" or "Google Argentina" links on the front page for some reason.

    Me thinks it's the stupid CSS or layout of the (useless) tags that messes things up.

  5. A small suggestion (a la Mr. Swift) by Patchw0rk+F0g · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Perhaps they've solved our problem of over-populated web-hits on our idiotic, media-seeking celebrities up here.

    If I recall correctly, Jon Swift purported that Irish babies would go a long way to feeding the impoverished English public.

    If anyone from Google or Yahoo! in general is reading, could we add Lindsay Lohan, Brittney Spears and the other paparazzi-fodder to that list for the search sites world-wide? I'm not suggesting that eating their babies would be a good idea, but I'm positive eating up their web-hits and searches would go a long way to feeding the positive intelligence of not only the English public, but the world.

    Think of it as doing your part to solve the (intellectual) hunger problems of the world. Onemillionactsofgreen.com would then meet their quota in... oh, about 30 minutes or so?!

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  6. Oh, Argentina! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

    Oh, Argentina! Don't you search for me.

  7. Tak3 a pag3 fr0m spamm3rs by Qubit · · Score: 1

    Try searching for 'marad0na' - I'm guessing that people will start to use alternate spellings to bypass the filters... :-)

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    1. Re:Tak3 a pag3 fr0m spamm3rs by Vlad_the_Inhaler · · Score: 1

      Use http://www.google.es/ - that should produce results

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  8. Before /. starts to panic about free speech... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Interesting

    Consider that Argentina has a very severe problem with high-profile Argentinians and their families being kidnapped and held for ransom.

    1. Re:Before /. starts to panic about free speech... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Informative

      That's a lie, plain and simple. There was a short rash of kidnappings (I don't think any at the time were famous people, though), but that's over.
        I have heard in some countries even nonfamous people go around with bodyguards (I remember a friend in Mexico, for example). Here you can see most famous people walking alone, having coffee in a bar, etc. I don't like this country much, I'm moving out ASAP, there is plenty to criticise about Argentina, but kidnappings? Nope.

  9. Re:flat wrong by sgt.greywar · · Score: 1

    Perhaps reading the comments above yours where the usage of the word "disappear" is explained in this context (with links to boot) would help you grasp why it was done. Reading prior to commenting is always nice. Additionally Slashdot is not simply geared for one nation or another's sensitivities to individual words (and connotations in this case) so while it might be upsetting beyond all measure to you to compare the disappearance of Google results to a local usage of the word with different conotations it is also irrelevant to Slashdot as a whole. If they were to ensure that every noun or verb in a Slashdot article couldn't possibly offend anyone anywhere they would never publish a thing. Feel free to submit your own articles with better words if you think that you have them. Otherwise perhaps you should avoid Slashdot's "Sensationalist, hatchet journalism" altogether and simple go elsewhere? It is still a free internet (at least outside of Argentina, China, and Iran). "Next" indeed sir.

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  10. Re:inb4 by randyest · · Score: 1

    Hello Mr. AC, how is following an immoral law not evil?

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  11. Re:Don't use Google Argentina? by calixaren · · Score: 1

    You can run, but you cannot escape :-)

  12. Remember folks! by ZekoMal · · Score: 2, Funny

    We may all live on the same planet, but we're not all allowed to receive the same information :D Yay for not all humans being equal according to where we were born and raised!

    1. Re:Remember folks! by networkconsultant · · Score: 1

      Some are "More equal" than others; well at least according to the OECD, IMF, and a few other institutions.

  13. Re:Don't use Google Argentina? by grayshirtninja · · Score: 4, Funny

    You should have posted as AC

  14. Re:Don't use Google Argentina? by phlegmboy · · Score: 1

    AC=Anonymous Corpse?

  15. Re:Here's how by randyest · · Score: 1

    Of course "moral" and "evil" aren't the same. If anything, they're close to opposites. I never claimed otherwise -- what an odd thing for you to say. Did you reply to the correct post?

    As overused as "nuance" is thanks to this election season, perhaps you could cultivate enough nuance yourself to understand that what is "evil" or "moral" is subjective, and not really something that one could say is "stupid and wrong" as you so pompously did?

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  16. Re:Don't use Google Argentina? by 77Punker · · Score: 1

    You can run, but you cannot escape :-)

    Dammit! Magic quotes!

  17. Re:Don't use Google Argentina? by grayshirtninja · · Score: 1

    He is now.

  18. Back door... more like front door ... work around by MaliciousSmurf · · Score: 1

    Actually, this isn't true... Search "mardona" in ar.search.yahoo.com, and it says, "Hemos incluido los resultados para maradona" or, "We have included the results for Maradona." Oops. They left a back door.

  19. Know much history? It's an intentional pun. by A+nonymous+Coward · · Score: 4, Insightful

    It's a dark joke on the thousands of people who "disappeared" during the late great dictatorship.

  20. This is interesting... by Viceroy+Potatohead · · Score: 2, Interesting

    I decided to see if I could check the same filtering mechanism with Canada and the US. The only obvious thing that struck me to search for is 'lolicon', since I'm pretty sure it's illegal in Canada but not the states.

    The US results (1,350,000 results)
    The Canadian results (1,230,000)

    Or am I missing some incredibly obvious other reason that these results are different?

    1. Re:This is interesting... by Monsieur_F · · Score: 1

      My guess is that it depends on the exchange rate of Canadian dollar over US dollar, or something like that.

      Other examples with selected words from your post:

      "mechanism" : 86,9 million results (US) / 82,2 million results (Canada)
      "incredibly" : 43,6 million results (US) / 40,5 million results (Canada)
      "obvious" : 104 millions results (US) / 97 millions results (Canada)

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    2. Re:This is interesting... by cHALiTO · · Score: 1

      Google's search algorithm produces different results in different localizations, I would think it gives more relevance to results in the same language and/or geography (i.e., in Google Argentina, results in spanish and from places close/in Argentina would be somewhat higher in ranking than the same results in Google.com).

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    3. Re:This is interesting... by networkconsultant · · Score: 1

      No there's just less hentai in Canada, and more consumers of hentai in the United States; it's not illegal according to any statute here, we just don't have as many pervs as you do.

      That and we'd rather preoccupy ourselves with the Real Thing!

  21. Re:Here's your sign by rev_g33k_101 · · Score: 1

    "In the case of forced disappearance the word disappear, which is properly an intransitive verb, becomes transitive."

    Or you know you could just laugh at the joke, because it sounds like the engrish mistranslations.

    Even if it is the correct usage.

    Don't forget

    "The problem with defending the purity of the English language is that English is about as pure as a cribhouse whore. We donâ(TM)t just borrow words; on occasion, English has pursued other languages down alleyways to beat them unconscious and rifle their pockets for new vocabulary." --James D. Nicoll

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  22. Re:Here's your sign by rev_g33k_101 · · Score: 1

    oops

    "The problem with defending the purity of the English language is that English is about as pure as a cribhouse whore. We don't just borrow words; on occasion, English has pursued other languages down alleyways to beat them unconscious and rifle their pockets for new vocabulary." --James D. Nicoll

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    "The problem with defending the purity of the English language is that English is about as pure as a cribhouse whore."
  23. just misspell by PixetaledPikachu · · Score: 1

    Search for mardona

  24. Beyond not RTFA by Amphetam1ne · · Score: 1

    Not content with simply not RTFA, slashdotters have given up on commenting on the article, prefering instead to comment on the grammar and wording of the headline.

    I'm sure that someone will point out the irony of me commenting about people not commenting on TFA any second now.

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  25. Re:inb4 by geekgirlandrea · · Score: 1

    Well, considering they could easily avoid doing so by just not having any operations in that jurisdiction, and in fact they probably don't, and seem to have cooperated with this just for the sheer glee of censorship, yeah, I'd say that's pretty fucking evil.

  26. Re:Back door... more like front door ... work arou by Kozar_The_Malignant · · Score: 1

    Just search on Cocaine. Maradona's bound to turn up.

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  27. Where the heck is Argentina again? by Arancaytar · · Score: 1

    I just looked on Google maps, and I absolutely can't find it...

    1. Re:Where the heck is Argentina again? by shentino · · Score: 1

      I think you mean South America

    2. Re:Where the heck is Argentina again? by cHALiTO · · Score: 1

      whoosh!!!

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    3. Re:Where the heck is Argentina again? by Arancaytar · · Score: 1

      I was about to type "Whoosh", but then I realized I would earn one myself.

  28. Re:You don't appear to be smart enough to get this by randyest · · Score: 1

    You should see someone about that anger issue. I said that "moral" is not "evil" which is obvious. But that doesn't mean than "immoral" isn't similar to "evil." Which was my point. That you missed. Because the froth from your mouth and the pounding of your fists and the steam from your nose generated by yout impotent rage blinded you.

    Better luck next time!

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  29. Hey, Argentina! by Jane+Q.+Public · · Score: 1

    Do not go gentle into that good night
    Rage, rage against the dying of the light
    --Dylan Thomas

  30. more grammar fascists please... by jjohn_h · · Score: 1

    >>> OED 3. trans. To cause to disappear.

    OED gives one single example of such usage,
    a grammar-impaired chemist A.D. 1897.

    'disappear' is transitiv in all English dictionaries for everyday usage.

  31. Re:blocked? by cHALiTO · · Score: 1


    An example of Google's filtering in Argentina can be seen by searching for "susana gimenez sexshop" which will result in three links at the bottom of the page to the Chilling Effects Clearinghouse -- a project that tracks these incidents and seeks to inform users of their rights.

    On Google.com.ar:
    Resultados 1 - 10 de aproximadamente 2.700 de susana gimenez sexshop. (0,06 segundos)

    On Google.com (through US Proxy):
      Results 1 - 10 of about 2,670 for susana gimenez sexshop. (0.11 seconds)

    And about the same sites/news on both..

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