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Pinpointing Creativity In the Brain

The Times Online has a lengthy story about the work being done to solve mysteries regarding the brain and various aspects of neuroscience. They discuss some of the "brain-training" myths and look at the quest to determine when and where creative thought originates. Quoting: "In fact, the whole process seems to be centred on one small part of the brain: the anterior superior temporal gyrus. This seems to be the point at which bits of information stored far apart in the brain are brought together. This may be an important clue as to how the brain organises itself. But it's only the beginning. At Goldsmiths College in London, Dr Joydeep Bhattacharya says the real issue is not the 'Aha!' moment itself, but the way it is produced in the brain and how we recognise it. 'We need to know the brain processes involved, to find how this moment is strong enough to reach consciousness. We know insight does not come from the sky.' This is the problem with all neuroscience. We don't really know what we are seeing."

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  1. Re:Creativity a gift, or learned? by liquidMONKEY · · Score: 3, Insightful

    It's different for different people I suppose. Those nuts who are always saying "I love a challenge, I love working under pressure."

  2. Neuroscience, creativity and the brain by davecrusoe · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Without having read the study, my contribution is that it's still early to concede that any particular part of the brain is the center of creativity, or that psychology actually has a specific definition for creativity.

    My own work focused on a different squiggly piece of cortex, called the Prefrontal Cortex, that is implicated in a range of abstract thinking processes, including those that don't seem to emerge until later adolescence.

    The good Doctor does seem to have an important insight in his work, which is that the locus of creativity (probably) starts much earlier than a thought present in our conscious mind.

    One possible idea is that our brain is constantly combining and recombining disparate data stored in memories; the presence of a creative thought is a novel combination that, when applied to a specific problem, results in a novel and perhaps workable solution.

    And, in finishing, I would agree that short-term training is unlikely to produce creativity, unless a) the training is extremely specific and b) the test is extremely specific, in which case I would wonder whether we're measuring creativity.

    Overall, however, scientific processes (MRI, etc) are so rough that it will be quite some time before we're able to actually "explore" and "find" the center of whatever creativity really is, and identify how it differs from other, more pedestrian thought processes.

    Cheers,
    --Dave

    1. Re:Neuroscience, creativity and the brain by Ethanol-fueled · · Score: 2, Insightful

      One possible idea is that our brain is constantly combining and recombining disparate data stored in memories

      Sounds a lot like dreams to me!

    2. Re:Neuroscience, creativity and the brain by Dr.+Winston+O'Boogie · · Score: 2, Insightful

      The most important part pointed out here: how can you look for "creativity" until you first define it?

      The simplest thought could be creative for a given person given their experiences and the exact same thought for someone else would not be deemed creative due to a different set of experiences. How then can anyone judge the "creativeness" of a thought without having a complete knowledge of the entire past experiences of a person?

    3. Re:Neuroscience, creativity and the brain by leomekenkamp · · Score: 2, Insightful
      I am puzzled by your comment. Why is getting to know your inner workings 'dehumanizing'? I find it quite the opposite: we are by nature curious to know how things work, also how our own bodies work. Our brain is just one part of our bodies, a significant part, but still a part; why would we want to know how our hart works but not how our brain works?. Where would you draw the line in knowing how we function?

      We are constantly being further reduced to mere chemicals.

      No, we are not reduced in any way: we stay the same. The models that describe how we work are being refined so that we can treat diseases and improve on the quality of life. Knowledge about ourselves changes.

      drugs now replace life experience and the freedom to choose anything for ourselves

      Drug use is common throughout human history; using plants, herbs and mushrooms for instance to treat diseases, prevent pregnancy and enter different states of consciousness has been a part of human societies since the prehistory.

      The Borg is a vision of future human beings.

      Yes, so are (were?) The Jetsons. The Borg are an oversimplification of how we might develop; that vision was created to enjoy ourselves, just like stories about the boogieman and Nightmare on Elm St. Knowing how we work has nothing to do with enslavement. More the opposite, I reckon.

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      Wenn ist das Nunstueck git und Slotermeyer? Ja! Beiherhund das Oder die Flipperwaldt gersput.
  3. I love this article... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

    Just for this little bit here:

    [The brain] shrinks and deteriorates with age. By the time you're 30 you're probably past your intellectual peak. This is a problem, as we're living longer and longer, and the danger is that we'll just get stupider and stupider.

    It's a particular problem for baby-boomers, the large, rich, spoilt generation born after the second world war.

    ... ah, delicious schadenfreude.

    1. Re:I love this article... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

      ... ah, delicious schadenfreude.

      When you're old and forgetful yourself, I'm sure they'll get the last laugh ;)

  4. Re:Brain Workshop by negRo_slim · · Score: 3, Insightful

    âoeThereâ(TM)s no empirical evidence that these games produce improvements,â says Nancy Andreasen

    That may very well be the case but are they forgetting about the Placebo effect a game like Brain Age might induce? Or for that matter, isn't using your brain in any active matter preferable to just letting it sit idle and passive in front of say, a tv?

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    On the Oregon Cost born and raised, On the beach is where I spent most of my days
  5. Re:So what would happen if... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

    More complicated than that. And, nothing's localized so precisely that you can selectively remove one function completely while leaving all others intact.

    What the article doesn't mention (out of scope, really) is that they've found differences between the hemispheres when it comes to this kind of creative thought. Specifically, they've found that remote associations between concepts (things that are related but in an abstract way you'd rarely think of) cause activity in the right-hemisphere parts, whereas local associations (use the scissors to cut the paper) are localized to the left hemisphere. Destroying someone's right temporal lobe might impact this kind of thought - but I'd bet that the person would be surprisingly normal regardless.

    'assembling information' is kinda abstract, and something they don't have a great handle on yet. Consciousness and the brain (with associated ethical restrictions) are awfully difficult things to reverse-engineer.

  6. Re:Creativity a gift, or learned? by Hojima · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Your comment is nearly spot-on. Creativity comes from obsession. Albert Einstein was quoted attributing his success to his passion rather than his natural talent. And there is no question as to whether Isac Newton was obsessed with his work. No one got their work done in a day, in fact, even though you can learn some of their accomplishments in less than a week (sometimes faster), it took them years to create and perfect. Although there is always a defining moment that they realize something, there is always some gradual progress that it takes to get there. Also, TFA mentions brain training and hints at neuroplasticity, but it has no mention of neurofeedback. The brain is similar to a muscle in that it can be improved, but only with the proper use. Neurofeedback doesn't have to be used for treatment, it can also be used to improve the mind and even to induce a hypnogogic state, which is shown to dramatically increase creativity. Just use wikipedia to read more into the subject, as the links I could post here wouldn't fit.