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Real Name For Open Source Development?

An anonymous reader writes "Do you contribute to open source projects under your real name or a nickname? The openness of open source can be encouraging, but software patents you have never heard of can become a nightmare if a patent troll sues for implementing 'their' scroll bar. A real name also means you end up in the big index we call search engines. An assumed name could be an additional layer of protection, but what are its pros and cons and is it worth the hassle when asked to participate in a meatspace meeting?"

262 comments

  1. Pffft... by TofuMatt · · Score: 1

    Matthew Riley MacPherson never posts using his real name.

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    -Matthew Riley "TofuMatt" MacPherson
    I have a website
    1. Re:Pffft... by WK2 · · Score: 4, Funny

      I always use my real name. It doubles as a nickname, because people laugh when I tell them my mother named me wk2, but it's true.

      --
      Write your own Choose Your Own Adventure. http://www.freegameengines.org/gamebook-engine/
    2. Re:Pffft... by HappySmileMan · · Score: 2, Insightful

      I use my first name and my initial, as well as my email, that way you can still reference it when applying for a job (whereas you'd look like an idiot claiming that you did excellent coding work but never gave a real name or used your regular email)

    3. Re:Pffft... by Tongsy · · Score: 1

      and how exactly do you pronounce that?

    4. Re:Pffft... by PitaBred · · Score: 2, Funny

      How do you pronounce that? "Weak-Two"? "Wiktu"? "Sparky"?

    5. Re:Pffft... by shawb · · Score: 3, Funny

      Just like it's spelled.

      --
      I'll never make that mistake again, reading the experts' opinions. - Feynman
    6. Re:Pffft... by Desert+Raven · · Score: 2, Funny

      It's pronounced "Throat-Warbler Mangrove"

    7. Re:Pffft... by clone53421 · · Score: 4, Funny

      It's somewhat like clearing your throat and spitting. The whole naming thing was a misunderstanding, but that's what got written on the paperwork...

      --
      Alexander Peter Kristopeit bought his basement from his mommy for one dollar.
    8. Re:Pffft... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I want to believe you, but I can't.

    9. Re:Pffft... by pan_sapiens · · Score: 1

      For your sake, I hope wk2 is a pseudonym ... "Choose Your Own Adventure" is trademarked ...

    10. Re:Pffft... by infonography · · Score: 1

      I have trademarked TRADEMARK, so any trademark or use thereof is instantly mine.

      Loading The Lawyerpult now.

      --
      Sorry about the writing. Robot fingers, you know? Cliff Steele in DOOM PATROL #23
    11. Re:Pffft... by ushering05401 · · Score: 1

      I use my first name and my initial, as well as my email, that way you can still reference it when applying for a job (whereas you'd look like an idiot claiming that you did excellent coding work but never gave a real name or used your regular email)

      Hmmm..

      Some people (especially younger coders) seem to see the open source community as a place to exercise weaker skills and get feedback from the often impolite, but usually honest maintainers of open source projects. A lot of these people utilize a core skill set at work during the day and choose to spend their spare time in areas of the field that are less familiar, and therefore more ripe for error.

      In that case the data trail attached to whatever you post under will include all sorts of content that you might never want to be associated with a professional capacity... The danger being that struggles chronicled online from your Open Source adventures are indicative of the fact that you like to try new things and add skills, but will be mistaken as something else by prospective employers.

      Generally speaking, keep anything that could result in a flamewar or a security breach under a different name.

      Hell, this slashdot account is actually a troll account, I am just not usually in a blatantly trollish mood in my old age ;)

      My original account's karma died quite a while ago, but you wouldn't know it from my current karma.

    12. Re:Pffft... by garaged · · Score: 1

      I use a really slick nickname, as you can see, but it would be trivial to point that nick to the real person behind.

      If someone is stupid enought to not connect my name with the nick, I don't want to work for him.

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      I'm positive, don't belive me look at my karma
  2. probably overkill by seanadams.com · · Score: 5, Informative

    An open source project is an unlikely target for a patent troll. Trolls by definition are not in business actually implementing the technology that is the subject of their patents, so your open source project doesn't hurt them directly. Unless you're making lots of money selling your open source software, there's not much they can hope to sue you for.

    If you are looking to for personal liability protection then you should create a corporation under which you do all your software development, which might even include hobby or GPL work. This is probably overkill, but it may be a good idea if you think that there's any possibility of building a business around your hobby work in the future. In that case you might be able to claim some tax breaks for the cost of your computer, internet connection etc.

    Hiding behind a pseudonym is only helpful in the case where you are doing something very illegal or commercially disruptive, in which case you need to do a lot more than just choose a handle, eg offshoring, money laundering etc. See online casinos, spammers, and porn sites for ideas...

    1. Re:probably overkill by Ethanol-fueled · · Score: 4, Interesting

      Simple. Use pseudonyms such as "John Smith" or "Robert Johnson" which are natural enough to be used in the meatspace and popular enough to be a needle in a haystack as far as Google Searches are concerned. This is a popular technique for restaraunt critics and the like whose reviews necessitate unbiased anonymity.

      If you use hacker-ish sounding names like CapnCrunch or Dildog then you're asking for notoriety and your ass will be laughed at in a LUG.

      Sadly enough, if anybody really wanted to track you down then they'd just throw money at a P.I. or at a buddy who works for your ISP.

    2. Re:probably overkill by Renegade88 · · Score: 5, Funny

      If you use hacker-ish sounding names like CapnCrunch or Dildog then you're asking for notoriety and your ass will be laughed at in a LUG.

      Are you speaking from experience, Ethanol-Fueled?

    3. Re:probably overkill by Shakrai · · Score: 4, Funny

      Are you speaking from experience, Ethanol-Fueled?

      No, that's his real name. It stems from the ethanol fueled orgy that led to his conception ;)

      --
      I want peace on earth and goodwill toward man.
      We are the United States Government! We don't do that sort of thing.
    4. Re:probably overkill by purpledinoz · · Score: 2, Informative

      As a general rule, I only use my real information if I have to (like if you sign up for paypal). I don't see a harm in using an alias wherever you can. In fact, I think it's a good policy for everyone.

    5. Re:probably overkill by JWSmythe · · Score: 3, Interesting

          I resemble that remark.

          I use "JW Smythe" as my online name. It's all over the place. Luckly, there are a few other people who use that or variations of it "J.W. Smythe", "John W. Smythe", "Jon Smythe". Pick out the real me. Of course, it's not my real name, but it sounds reasonable. If someone I'm not expecting calls me by my alias, I ignore them, or ask them who they're talking about.

          My real name oddly enough is even more popular, by Google searches. There are lots of "me" all around the world, all doing different things. It keeps people wondering if my real name is yet another pseudonym, or it's really me. :)

          Only clients and friends know my real name. They also have read my little essay on why I use an alias. Some people still ask for clarification of why. Why? Because there are a lot of weird people out there, and I don't want to go around to the millions of freaks out there saying "Hi, my name is ____ , come look for me." I've known call center folks who have been harassed, threatened, and stalked, because they've used their real names. Even when I've answered phones, they get my pseudonym of the day (or of the job). I use names like some guys use girlfriends. Use it until it's burnt, then pretend it never existed.

          The reason of liability when some corporate lawyer decides to play rough applies too, but that's pretty low on my priority list. I worry more about the millions of lunatics floating around the Internet. :)

         

      --
      Serious? Seriousness is well above my pay grade.
    6. Re:probably overkill by tgd · · Score: 4, Informative

      Actually, no, if you're looking for personal liability protection, buy a personal liability insurance policy.

      $2m in liability coverage is a couple hundred dollars a year. If you have any assets (and you'd have to in order to be concerned about liability), its an absolute no-brainer to buy an umbrella policy.

      People are sue-happy these days.

    7. Re:probably overkill by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Hiding behind a pseudonym is only helpful in the case where you are doing something very illegal or commercially disruptive, in which case you need to do a lot more than just choose a handle, eg offshoring, money laundering etc. See online casinos, spammers, and porn sites for ideas...

      There is no need to do something "very illegal", you just have to contribute to something a little "borderline" like a hacking^Wsecurity tool in Germany, a peer-to-peer client in France or anything which could piss off the Copyright Mafia in the United States.

    8. Re:probably overkill by sorak · · Score: 1

      Hiding behind a pseudonym is only helpful in the case where you are doing something very illegal or commercially disruptive, in which case you need to do a lot more than just choose a handle, eg offshoring, money laundering etc.

      Don't forget Freenet/onion routing. If you're doing something THAT serious, then a simple nickname isn't going to protect you from RICO/Patriot Act/etc...

      I don't think the original poster had that in mind, but you may have a point in that, if a patent troll/MPAA/RIAA organization were to go after you, the first thing they would do is contact the project's ISP and demand a list of ISP addresses for everyone who has connected to that server, under threat of legal incarceration, fines, foreclosures, voodoo, and visits from scary guys in suits.

      If the project's ISP folds under a DMCA threat, an alias just makes you look more guilty.

    9. Re:probably overkill by MightyYar · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Of course, if you use the same alias everywhere it is only a matter of time before someone can put two-and-two together. :)

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      W..w..W - Willy Waterloo washes Warren Wiggins who is washing Waldo Woo.
    10. Re:probably overkill by jonaskoelker · · Score: 1

      You shouldn't laugh too loudly, Renegade88.

      I put my [ascii-fied] full name in my username (everywhere), mail address and DNS name. I sign my email. Once I set up my "Digital Signature" [PKCS #n keypair certified by the official danish CA], I'll probably sign my mail with that.

      By spreading my name around, given that it's [almost] unique, people can get in touch with me even when all the information grows stale.

    11. Re:probably overkill by drunkenoafoffofb3ta · · Score: 1

      When you're trying to reason with people spouting badscience, the username "drunkenoaf" (which some git got before me on /.) doesn't help me be taken seriously...

    12. Re:probably overkill by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      His name was Robert Paulson.

    13. Re:probably overkill by epee1221 · · Score: 2, Interesting

      There is no need to do something "very illegal", you just have to contribute to something a little "borderline"

      You don't even have to do anything questionable. There just has to be someone who objects noisily to it, which is a depressingly low threshold.

      --
      "The use-mention distinction" is not "enforced here."
    14. Re:probably overkill by cptdondo · · Score: 1

      Google 'piercing the corporate shield'. While the 'get a corporation and hide behind it' is a popular common fiction, it doesn't hold up in reality.

      In brief, a corporation will only protect you if you are wealthy enough to staff up with lawyers. If you're a small company, especially a one-person part-time LLC that can't affort $400/hr for attorneys, a corporation offers almost no protection whatsoever.

      As in most things legal, the system is set up to favor those with the deep pockets and big-name lawyers.

    15. Re:probably overkill by jmak · · Score: 1

      In some code, which was a result of reverse engineering, I have also seen SHA-1 hashes (probably of authors' names + some salt, but I can only guess for obvious reasons) being used instead of names. Looks a bit weird, but on the other hand it gives you the possibility to prove that it is actually your code if you would need a reference.

    16. Re:probably overkill by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Nor does sumdumass. The first time he responded to one of my posts, I assumed he was trolling (I was mistaken).

    17. Re:probably overkill by networkBoy · · Score: 1

      I use a pseudonym and anon-ish e-mail for the exact same reasons you use your real name. Go figure.

      I particularly don't want my on-line persona to easily match my IRL name.

      That said I also keep three pseudos with this one being most likely to link to me as a person, and the one I would hand an employer if they really had a need to know about anything.
      -nB

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    18. Re:probably overkill by smithy242 · · Score: 1
    19. Re:probably overkill by Akdor+1154 · · Score: 1

      So no-one could say who JW Smythe really is... if it weren't for the likely proximity between "J.W. Smythe" and your real name in your personal search history file in Google's database?

    20. Re:probably overkill by VGPowerlord · · Score: 1

      Everyone has heard of John Wayne Smythe!

      In all truthiness, I haven't ever worked on an open source project. If I did, it'd most likely attribute me by my first initial and last name, which is how my non-work email signatures are set up.

      --
      GLaDOS for President 2016! "Well here we are again. It's always such a pleasure." -- GLaDOS, 2011
    21. Re:probably overkill by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Is that you Agent Smith?

      Me me me me me.

      Me too.

    22. Re:probably overkill by raner · · Score: 1

      An open source project is an unlikely target for a patent troll. Trolls by definition are not in business actually implementing the technology that is the subject of their patents, so your open source project doesn't hurt them directly. Unless you're making lots of money selling your open source software, there's not much they can hope to sue you for.

      I don't think this is as far-fetched as it seems at first glance: lots of open-source software products that are developed under "business-friendly" licenses such as EPL or ASL form the basis for commercial offerings. It is more likely that patent trolls would go where the money is and sue whoever makes the commercial product, but it is conceivable that the open-source foundation of such an offering would be targeted as well.

    23. Re:probably overkill by the_womble · · Score: 1

      If you are looking to for personal liability protection then you should create a corporation under which you do all your software development

      Good advice. It is legally sound protection (although get legal advice to make sure it is correctly implemented), and it means you can still get the credit for your work.

      Also, anyone who wants to sue you can probably get your identity, sue you without knowing your identity, etc.

      which might even include hobby or GPL work.

      GPL is not synonymous with hobby! However, anything done under a pseudonym will prevent it being anything other than a hobby.

      Also, what if you want to sue to enforce the GPL? You might not be able to sue successfully and preserve your anonymity.

    24. Re:probably overkill by julesh · · Score: 4, Informative

      Actually, no, if you're looking for personal liability protection, buy a personal liability insurance policy.

      $2m in liability coverage is a couple hundred dollars a year. If you have any assets (and you'd have to in order to be concerned about liability), its an absolute no-brainer to buy an umbrella policy.

      People are sue-happy these days.

      And the cost of a lost patent-infringement suit could easily top $2M. You should be looking for at least $10M cover, if you ask me.

      Or, as the GP suggests, simply use a limited liability corporation, which will cost substantially less. You can form a company which will cost about $150 in the first year and about $50 per annum thereafter, and if it isn't trading commercially you won't need to hire an accountant etc (just read a few books on how to look after it). If anybody is stupid enough to sue it you just file paperwork to fold the business. Sure, they'll end up owning copyright to your work, but as you've probably GPL'd it, that's not particularly helpful for them...

    25. Re:probably overkill by tgd · · Score: 1

      A contributors liability will not be $2M or even $10M. The point of the umbrella policy is to not have to pay a dime if something happens -- the insurance company will handle it.

      And an LLC (or full corporation, since you're going to be on the board) does not protect you in the way you seem to think it does. As a principal in a corporation, its critical to have an umbrella policy because you *are* liable for the actions of the company. The primary thing you're not liable for is financial losses. You're not safe from criminal or civil actions.

    26. Re:probably overkill by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Your websites JWSmythe and FIP are registered with Cheapies (no great help) but chancing my arm I'd say that the vortext.com NS looks to be yours. It's registered with energenesis.com who might also be from your stable (they're coldfusion developed sites), they certainly didn't win your business recently - Several linked examples on their site are broken and their copyright says 2004.

      The websites of Energenesis are based around Tampa Bay, FL, USA.

      In your posts you claim to be an average skinny white guy who drives a transam and lives in FL.

      You mention being married with a daughter. You're now 35 and have been married once before.

      You mention local "Verizon FiOS" which gives either St.P or Sarasota.

      This appears to be a picture of you .. http://busrv.com/jwsmythe/3.13.2006/IMG_6792.JPG with your bus - you're quite into big things - taken with a Canon Powershot S1!

      How am I doing .. I don't think it would take much to find you if someone wanted to.

    27. Re:probably overkill by enHatt · · Score: 1

      Comment modded +1 paranoid

    28. Re:probably overkill by JWSmythe · · Score: 1

            A couple close shots, but you're far from sinking my battleship. Actually, I probably wouldn't hear if you dropped a cruise missile anywhere you thought I am. But you did a good job of identifying my old camera. Congratulations. :) The question though would be, am I shooting the picture and that's my friend, or is my friend shooting a picture and that's me?

          It's still a long long long way from including me as a defendant or a witness in a lawsuit, as is the original topic was.

      --
      Serious? Seriousness is well above my pay grade.
    29. Re:probably overkill by julesh · · Score: 1

      an LLC (or full corporation, since you're going to be on the board) does not protect you in the way you seem to think it does. As a principal in a corporation, its critical to have an umbrella policy because you *are* liable for the actions of the company. The primary thing you're not liable for is financial losses. You're not safe from criminal or civil actions.

      I accept that your jurisdiction may have different rules to mine, but I do know quite a bit about company law, and I know that in most jurisdictions, in most cases[1], you are _not_ liable as a shareholder or director for any civil actions that may be taken against the company. That's the entire point of limited liability; it encourages entrepreneurs to take risks with the knowledge that they will not be held financially liable for them. Criminal actions are, of course, an entirely different matter, and if patent infringement were a criminal issue this would be worth worrying about. It isn't.

      [1] See, generally, "piercing the corporate veil" -- it isn't an easy process for a litigant to succeed at, and they'll basically need to show that the company has been mismanaged in some fashion.

      IANAL; this is not legal advice; YMMV; etc.

  3. Real Name! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    you should always use your real name when publishing online!

    1. Re:Real Name! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I always use my real fake name, George Hale, while publishing online.

    2. Re:Real Name! by MikeDirnt69 · · Score: 2, Funny

      Hi Mr November, how you doing today?

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    3. Re:Real Name! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I use my real name. The only downside is that I get a lot of surveys to fill out from university studentds trying to get their doctorate by figuring out the motivations of open source developers.

      (But I'm posting here as AC because I've lost my SF pass word. I was randeg but lost that email account due to using my real email address so it appears in the "From" field of millions of spams. The ISP, alum.rpi.edu, believed the "From" and dumped me from my lifetime alumni account.)

    4. Re:Real Name! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

      My name IS Anonymous Coward, you insensitive clod!

    5. Re:Real Name! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      And yet you post as AC. How ironic.

  4. Under my real name, for the most part by Octorian · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Right now the only project I actively contribute to is my own. Of course I have my real name on the project site and in the copyright headers. However, my username (on the site and the repository logs) is more of an online nick. The downside of this is that I get lots of e-mails and forum posts where people assume that nick is my real name.

    Of course once I'm at the point where I care about liability protection, I'd rather form some sort of LLC to contain my efforts. I really do want to contribute in a way that people know its me, since what's the point of contributing to a project you can't personally claim credit for?

    1. Re:Under my real name, for the most part by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      > what's the point of contributing to a project you can't personally claim credit for?

      Some (like me) contribute for the sake of giving back. It's not about the fame or credit to everyone.

    2. Re:Under my real name, for the most part by atraintocry · · Score: 1

      What an LLC protects you from is bankruptcy, not something like a lawsuit or a criminal investigation.

      That is, under an LLC, your financial liability is "limited" to a certain amount (what you've invested), and you do not have to personally cover losses above this amount.

  5. Blue Salad is not my real name. by Green+Salad · · Score: 5, Funny

    As long as I sign my code as Blue Salad, they'll never guess I'm really "Green Salad." Muh haha

  6. Real Name: yes by NeoBrain · · Score: 1

    I'm always using my real name when commiting any patches to the Wine project.
    Negative side is that I can be found quite quickly in Google, but maybe I'll get famous at some point :P

    1. Re:Real Name: yes by legirons · · Score: 1

      I'm always using my real name when commiting any patches to the Wine project.
      Negative side is that I can be found quite quickly in Google, but maybe I'll get famous at some point :P

      You also get a bit more [longer-lasting] copyright protection if you use a real name?

  7. Another Con by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

    I bothered to read every letter of a contract I signed with a company I once worked for and it had the peculiar verbage something to the effect of "... every idea or product developed by the employee during their employment at CompanyX is intellectual property of CompanyX." I got some clarification which resulted in the understanding that that particular phrase was left open so that if I went home and wrote an NLP engine from scratch while I was employed, it was their intellectual property. Let's just say at that time I needed the money and my foot in the door so I did take that temporary position.

    From that early moment on, all contributions have been pretty darn anonymous. Remember, you're not just protecting yourself, you're protecting other OSS developers, other OSS companies and more importantly the users.

    1. Re:Another Con by Shakrai · · Score: 1

      I got some clarification which resulted in the understanding that that particular phrase was left open so that if I went home and wrote an NLP engine from scratch while I was employed, it was their intellectual property

      Just because they put that clause in doesn't mean it will stand up in court....

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    2. Re:Another Con by YouWantFriesWithThat · · Score: 5, Insightful

      just because it won't stand up in court doesn't mean that you will have the funds to litigate it successfully...

    3. Re:Another Con by Shakrai · · Score: 1

      True enough, but all the same I'd be less intimidated by it.

      --
      I want peace on earth and goodwill toward man.
      We are the United States Government! We don't do that sort of thing.
    4. Re:Another Con by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

      In that situation, you should not contribute to open source projects, especially not anonymously. The code you write is intellectual property of your employer and unless said employer agrees to contribute it under the license chosen by the open source project, the presence of the code in the open source code base is a major liability for the project. It doesn't help that the project can not shift blame to you when your employer finds out about it because you inadvertently used insider knowledge in your design. That's why big projects will not accept patches unless the author identifies himself and declares full authorship.

    5. Re:Another Con by Bandman · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Radio shack used to have a clause like that too. They even claimed everything you produced for a year after you left. Laughable. As if my sales training there would lead to creating something useful.

    6. Re:Another Con by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

      of course one should check to make sure that such clauses aren't negated by their state laws.

      such as non-compete clauses in california.

    7. Re:Another Con by rev_g33k_101 · · Score: 2, Interesting

      they still have that clause.....

      --
      "The problem with defending the purity of the English language is that English is about as pure as a cribhouse whore."
    8. Re:Another Con by Zordak · · Score: 5, Informative

      Actually, that's not "peculiar." Pretty much every employment contract will have a clause like that (more generous employers will just grab IP "related to your work," but read that broadly). And for the most part, it's enforceable.

      There's also a problem with your anonymous contributions. The open source projects you donated code to are now tainted. If your employer decides to sue you for whatever reason, they'll ask in discovery for you to produce all IP you created while employed. Sure, you can lie and hide the stuff you did, and they may not find out. But if they do, you'll get sanctioned, and the judge will not be your friend after that. Bottom line, take those clauses seriously. If you're doing something unrelated and you really don't think your business is interested, get a signed release for your project. Or better yet, tell them up front that you work on unrelated open source projects, and ask them if they'll agree to a narrowly-crafted exclusion in the employment agreement. They may say yes.

      I'm a lawyer, but this post isn't legal advice. Don't rely on it for any reason.

      --

      Today's Sesame Street was brought to you by the number e.
    9. Re:Another Con by PitaBred · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Just because you sign a contract doesn't mean you can be legally held to it. You can't be legally held to kill someone after signing a contract to carry out murder.

      Employers may think that they have dominion over an employee's life simply because they're paying them, but they actually don't. If they aren't directly paying you for the work, there's a reasonable expectation that it is yours. Does the company also own part of your house if you did repairs on it yourself?

    10. Re:Another Con by mikiN · · Score: 1

      I wonder how far technology has progressed in the field of code fingerprinting. To the GPP, I would be quite worried when some tech could link code submitted anonymously directly to me, e.g. using things like coding style, choice of variable names, language idioms and quirks in comments, and in particular certain programming mistakes made repeatedly or with any kind of pattern.

      --
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    11. Re:Another Con by Zero__Kelvin · · Score: 3, Informative

      You won't need the funds to litigate it. The suit is a non-starter (in the US.) A clause, worded exactly as the OP stated, would be limited to work directly related to the company that employs you. In other words, if you work for a software company, only innovations directly related to their area of specialty would be covered by the clause and not all software inventions.

      Any case not related to the companies direct business would not be allowed to proceed.

      --
      Guns don't kill people; Physics kills people! - John Lithgow as Dick Solomon on Third Rock From The Sun
    12. Re:Another Con by Splab · · Score: 1

      Was met with the same clause in a contract for a part time job, I told them I couldn't sign it since most of my work done in private was for the University and thus belonged to them.

      Also, as it turned out, that kind of contract was not enforceable for a part time hourly paid job (talked to the union - yes they do work as intended in Denmark).

    13. Re:Another Con by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Informative

      This is Slashdot ... your legally sound post has no place here.

    14. Re:Another Con by russotto · · Score: 1

      To the GPP, I would be quite worried when some tech could link code submitted anonymously directly to me, e.g. using things like coding style, choice of variable names, language idioms and quirks in comments, and in particular certain programming mistakes made repeatedly or with any kind of pattern.

      Except maybe for the comments thing, I suspect that coding styles are imitated far too much to get a useful false positive/false negative rate for code fingerprinting.

    15. Re:Another Con by dhasenan · · Score: 1

      astyle --random can help.

    16. Re:Another Con by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      AFAIK (IANAL) it is legal (i.e. enforceable) to sign away the right to do outside work in the same field as your employer while you are under contract. That is a sort of non-compete clause. It is not a big leap to think that signing away the right to all work done in the same field during that time is also legal, for similar reasons.

      If you are willing to bet against that, fight your own legal battle, but don't offload the liability onto an open source project by contributing anonymously. No open source project manager will knowingly accept contributions which are tainted like that, unless perhaps the project is backed by a major company with a staff of lawyers.

    17. Re:Another Con by PitaBred · · Score: 1

      In the same field, sure. There's no reasonable way for you to separate your insider knowledge from your day job from your "hobby" stuff. But if I work as a web designer during the day, my employer insisting they own some, say, kernel code I write is ludicrous, and I hope it would be laughed out of court, just as an employer insisting that they own part of my house since I did work on it while employed by them.

    18. Re:Another Con by hotdiggitydawg · · Score: 1

      Here's a thought: if the employer claims all your free-time coding is their property, does that then mean they take on the liability for that work?

      EG. someone sues you over a bug in some code you wrote. Can you then say "Sorry, this code is actually property of my employer, LargeEvilMegaCorporation. Please direct your suit to their immense legal department, grab your ankles and prepare for a reaming"...

      If the employer wants to have their cake, they'd damn well better be prepared to eat it too.

    19. Re:Another Con by Zordak · · Score: 1

      LargeEvilMegaCorporation will have excessive disclaimers of warranty for all of their code, and you should too. If you're foolish enough to release code without disclaimers, the answer is, "If he had handed it over to us like he was obligated to do, we would have put disclaimers on it before we released it. So he gets to indemnify us."

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    20. Re:Another Con by servognome · · Score: 1

      I bothered to read every letter of a contract I signed with a company I once worked for and it had the peculiar verbage something to the effect of "... every idea or product developed by the employee during their employment at CompanyX is intellectual property of CompanyX." I got some clarification which resulted in the understanding that that particular phrase was left open so that if I went home and wrote an NLP engine from scratch while I was employed, it was their intellectual property. Let's just say at that time I needed the money and my foot in the door so I did take that temporary position.

      Have you ever tried to discuss your home projects with your employer? Basically, your employer doesn't want to be in a situation where there is potential conflict, so they just grab everything. They put in that clause as a catch-all, when really what they want is right to first refusal. Present your idea, let them say they aren't interested, then work with them on an agreement that allows you to retain rights on a project you work on so long as it's clearly accomplished outside of your work schedule and without their resources.

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    21. Re:Another Con by ConstableBrew · · Score: 1

      This is a very interesting point and I'd like to hear more non-lawyer experts hammer out the imagined ramifications of this. (After all, that is what /. is best at!)

    22. Re:Another Con by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      As a lawyer, surely you can see how the typical geek might see this as a shitty deal if (for instance) something they want to implement as an experiment gets turned down by their employer. So they say "Fuck it, I'll make it myself in my own time. I came up with it on a napkin on my own kitchen table anyway." They build it, it works great. They find investors, quit their job, build a company to use it. Now they've proven their employer wrong, and maybe they're competing. Obviously, from what you're saying, the geek is screwed.

      Do you see this ever changing? Is there any reason for the law to ever favor the little guy on the shitty deal non-competes offer? Is working contract for every employer and refusing non-competes (most likely costing a lot of business) the only way out of this?

      It really seems like it's going to just create a case of haves and have-nots in the digital age, with the folks that have the talent and the drive to succeed really getting the screws put to them.

    23. Re:Another Con by hotdiggitydawg · · Score: 1

      Even if the code had disclaimers, they won't necessarily stop someone bringing a lawsuit (although they might stop them from winning that suit, assuming they are legal and binding in the relevant jurisdiction, which is a big assumption). And even frivolous lawsuits can be expensive for an individual to defend - a company has a bigger bankroll.

    24. Re:Another Con by tomhudson · · Score: 1

      You can't be legally held to kill someone after signing a contract to carry out murder.

      Somehow I don't think the military are going to buy your line of reasoning, recruit ...

    25. Re:Another Con by Zordak · · Score: 1

      I don't see it changing in the near future. Your best bet is to work for companies with more reasonable policies, or be an independent contractor, in which case you have a lot more freedom. It may not be fair, but there is a lot of unfairness in the law.

      Lest you think I'm exaggerating, there was a recent case out of the 5th Circuit. I forget the name (maybe I'll look it up tomorrow). But here are the facts: "A" works for Corp. 1 with an employment agreement that covers all intellectual property he develops. A invents an unrelated thing. He goes to his corporate overlords and asks them if they're interested in developing it. They say, "No, that's not our line of business. We're not interested in the invention. You can do it on your own if you want." A and a buddy quit Corp. 1, patent the invention, and form their own startup commercializing it. Corp. 2 steals the idea and starts making it. A and his startup sue Corp. 2. Corp. 2 cleverly goes to Corp. 1 and buys a "quitclaim" title to the invention (meaning, "Whatever interest you have in it, we will buy it from you, even if it turns out to be nothing"). Corp. 2 then claims that they own the patent. The reasoning is that Corp. 1 already owned the invention as soon as A invented it, and their mere lack of interest was insufficient to transfer title back to A. The key was the language in the agreement. Many say, "You agree to transfer all IP you create while employed..." If it had said that, the transfer would have failed to take place when Corp. 1 showed no interest, Corp. 2 would probably be estopped from trying to claim it now on Corp. 1's behalf, and A wins. But here, it said, "You do hereby prospectively transfer all IP you create while employed ..." Since present language caused the transfer to take place immediately upon creation, Corp. 1 owned the invention, regardless of what they told A. And Corp. 2 bought it from Corp. 1. Therefore, Corp. 2 wins.

      Is that result "fair"? Maybe not. But it's logically consistent and lets me know what the effect of specific language will be in a contract, which is what the law is (or should be) concerned about. So when I write an employment agreement for a client, guess what language I am now always sure to include?

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    26. Re:Another Con by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Completely agree. Please, note that ignoring your contract doest not protect OSS development. Instead, it is quite the opposite. You should sign an exception with your company, I know of people who has got it, so it is not impossible, though some companies may not accept it (in this case, you should NOT develop for OSS projects during that time).

    27. Re:Another Con by clone53421 · · Score: 1

      War != murder, in a legal sense. Regardless of moral qualms you may or may not have, you haven't signed "a contract to carry out murder".

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    28. Re:Another Con by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      See above for an actual lawyer's response.

    29. Re:Another Con by clone53421 · · Score: 1

      Hm. So if the guy had gotten "No, that's not our line of business. We're not interested in the invention. You can do it on your own if you want." in writing, would that have still been insufficient to transfer the ownership of the idea back to him?

      Would he have needed to get something explicitly stating "We're transferring ownership of the idea back to you"?

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    30. Re:Another Con by LordActon · · Score: 1

      verbage

      is not a word, Ms. Palin:

      $ grep verbage /usr/share/dict/words | wc
      0 0 0

    31. Re:Another Con by Zordak · · Score: 1

      Ah, here it is. DDB Tech v. MLB Advanced Media (Fed. Cir. 2008). And commentary by Dennis Crouch. I was wrong. It originated out of the 5th Circuit (Western District of Texas), but it was actually a Federal Circuit decision. So be aware of what you're signing. And if you're concerned, consult a lawyer.

      Once again, this post is not legal advice.

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    32. Re:Another Con by Zordak · · Score: 1

      He would need an explicit assignment back. What's tough for him is that his employer didn't think they owned it, so they saw no need for anybody to assign anything. This guy tried to do everything right, and it still bit him in the end.

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    33. Re:Another Con by clone53421 · · Score: 1

      No, but verbiage is.

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    34. Re:Another Con by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Any case not related to the companies direct business would not be allowed to proceed.

      well, you saying it doesn't make it true. what mechanism do you propose will promptly end the case with no cost to the defendant?

      it will take money and a lawyer to fight their suit. a judge won't just dismiss the case after reading the filing. the court case will be used to bring the truth to light, i have seen cases involving very clear cut contracts go to trial. you will have to mount a defense.

      what about the guy who worked on blade servers being ordered by a court to not work on ipods? his lawyers think that he has a very clear-cut non-compete that does not apply to his new job (which is totally unrelated to his old one). his case is going to trial, and he isn't allowed to work for apple in the meantime.

    35. Re:Another Con by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      his post cites nothing and he makes unsubstantiated claims, what in that lot of rubbish is legally sound?

  8. Real, of course. by John+Hasler · · Score: 4, Insightful

    > Do you contribute to open source projects under your real name or a nickname?

    Real, of course. Why would I want to hide?

    > The openness of open source can be encouraging, but software patents you have never
    > heard of can become a nightmare if a patent troll sues for implementing 'their' scroll
    > bar.

    As a pure unpaid contributor of source code you have no patent liability.

    > A real name also means you end up in the big index we call search engines.

    I've been using my real name on the Net for more than twenty years. I don't see the problem.

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    1. Re:Real, of course. by mark_wilkins · · Score: 2, Informative

      > As a pure unpaid contributor of source code you have no patent liability.

      Unfortunately, that's not true. Actually, as an unpaid, noncommercial USER of a software product, you CAN have patent liability.

      Patents extend to the right to control all development and use of derivative technologies whether commercially or noncommercially.

    2. Re:Real, of course. by skiingyac · · Score: 1

      > > As a pure unpaid contributor of source code you have no patent liability.

      > Unfortunately, that's not true. Actually, as an unpaid, noncommercial USER of a software product, you CAN have patent liability.

      While you're right, both user and contributor are probably liable depending on the situation, I think there is a distinction between a liability that isn't worth you even being sent a letter about and a liability that is worth someone suing you over.

    3. Re:Real, of course. by CatsupBoy · · Score: 3, Funny

      Real, of course. Why would I want to hide?

      Because now everyone knows you as a T-bagger

    4. Re:Real, of course. by Swizec · · Score: 0

      I've been using my real name on the Net for more than twenty years. I don't see the problem.

      The problem is that Internet is only 15 years old.

    5. Re:Real, of course. by John+Hasler · · Score: 1

      > While you're right, both user and contributor are probably liable depending on the
      > situation, I think there is a distinction between a liability that isn't worth you even
      > being sent a letter about and a liability that is worth someone suing you over.

      True. In the US there are no statutory damages and no criminal penalties for patent infringement. The patent owner can only sue for actual damages. Your maximum liability as an individual user is the maximum royalty the patent owner can convince a Federal court that he could otherwise have collected from you. And Federal courts do not deal in trivialities.

      As a contributor of source code your only liability would be for contributory or vicarious infringement but both require proof that you profited from your contribution. If you did the work as an employee your employer would be liable, not you.

      I'm really not all that worried about the possibility that a court might order me to pay over to a patent owner every penny of revenue I have received for the sale of infringing products. Or even treble damages.

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    6. Re:Real, of course. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Someone please mod this goose -1 "dead wrong"!

    7. Re:Real, of course. by ion.simon.c · · Score: 1

      2008-1978 = 30

    8. Re:Real, of course. by noundi · · Score: 1

      Well John, unless you're Jesus himself you're bound to do something online which will haunt you for the rest of your life, and even if you were infact Jesus you would most likely end up crucified anyway. Wow I never realised what a lose-lose situation life really is... this article got me all bummed. Thanks for nothing.

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    9. Re:Real, of course. by julesh · · Score: 1

      > As a pure unpaid contributor of source code you have no patent liability.

      Unfortunately, that's not true. Actually, as an unpaid, noncommercial USER of a software product, you CAN have patent liability.

      Patents extend to the right to control all development and use of derivative technologies whether commercially or noncommercially.

      Yes and no. Yes, patents cover all use. Yes, patents cover commercial development. No, in most circumstances, non-commercial development is probably not a patent infringing activity: there's an exclusion in what protection a patent provides for its holder so that it does not cover non-commercial research use, which non-commercial development arguably comes under. See here for a brief summary. You'd have to argue that your OSS development work is done for reasons of personal amusement or curiosity, but I think this is actually true for most of us.

      IANAL, this is not legal advice, etc.

    10. Re:Real, of course. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I hide my real name when I post in forums about hobbies /subjects I like to talk about. There has been times when something (LEGAL mind you) I've done has kicked me in the ass.

      Software wise when I contribute to a program I don't feel the need to hide a contribution.. that's different for me.
      So it's better to be safe than sorry this way.

    11. Re:Real, of course. by Rysc · · Score: 1

      Stop equating "the world wide web" and "the internet." I get enough of that from the clueless masses, on Slashdot I expect a slightly higher level of education.

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    12. Re:Real, of course. by Swizec · · Score: 1

      Screw that, we only ever got the world wide web here and that's what we equate the internet to. If you had a network between different houses or institutions before that, who cares.

    13. Re:Real, of course. by Rysc · · Score: 1

      Are you serious? You do realize that the world wide web is just one thing that runs *on top of* the internet? It refers only to things happening on the HTTP protocol, which is a large but nor majority amount of internet traffic.

      I hope you were joking.

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  9. Hacker Alias by Aero77 · · Score: 1

    Just use your Hacker alias for submissions. (yes, I know it is Hax0r or whatever people are calling it this month) As long your alternate ID has a positive karma, instead of a negative one, physical meetings are still ok.

  10. Obvious con by MikeRT · · Score: 2, Insightful

    It won't be easy to prove to a potential employer that you work(ed) on the project, so you might as well not include it on your resume unless you're tenacious about it.

    1. Re:Obvious con by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      That can work both ways dude :-)

    2. Re:Obvious con by Kozz · · Score: 1

      You can prove it. Just show the potential employer you've got the source code. ;)

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  11. My nickname... by girlintraining · · Score: 5, Funny

    I've never had any problems submitting my code as Bill_Gates55, but RMS1953 can sometimes get me into trouble. Of course, nobody would believe me if I used my real name; Girls don't program.

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    1. Re:My nickname... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "Of course, nobody would believe me if I used my real name; Girls don't program."

      On the internet GIRL means Guy In Real Life. There are no women on the internet. The internet is a place for Real Men (tm).

      All kidding aside, there are a few of us. It's not a matter of whether people believe you're a girl as much as whether they will automatically dismiss your abilities because of being a girl.

    2. Re:My nickname... by m50d · · Score: 1

      I've known some very good female programmers - and it's been correlated almost perfectly with those who didn't make a fuss about their sex. Could it be people are reacting not to the femininity but the confrontational attitude you seem to take about it?

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    3. Re:My nickname... by morgan_greywolf · · Score: 1

      All kidding aside, there are a few of us. It's not a matter of whether people believe you're a girl as much as whether they will automatically dismiss your abilities because of being a girl.

      Nonsense. One of the best coders I ever met was a girl. I did, however, question her taste in desktop themes. ;)

    4. Re:My nickname... by russotto · · Score: 1

      Of course, nobody would believe me if I used my real name; Girls don't program.

      That's not really why we didn't believe you, Ms. Natalie Portman.

    5. Re:My nickname... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Bill can program?

    6. Re:My nickname... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Well, some of them do program. They just don't do it very well... :-)

  12. Why use a fake name when you can... by viridari · · Score: 3, Funny

    ...use someone else's real name?

    Find a great idea while mining through software patents? Use a name of someone you'd like to see twist in the wind and implement this concept in your favorite Open Source project. What could be more fun?

    1. Re:Why use a fake name when you can... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You mean like when I wrote my open source Silverlight implementation under the name 'Miguel de Icaza'? Nope. Didn't work.

    2. Re:Why use a fake name when you can... by nickruiz · · Score: 2, Funny

      Oprah, it is for now on.

    3. Re:Why use a fake name when you can... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Worthy of BHG himself...

  13. Err on the side of caution by moore.dustin · · Score: 4, Interesting

    When in doubt, go the safe route where you have some degree of control over your personal information. I contribute to a few sites here and there, not to mention the few I run myself, and I write every single word under a pen name. There are a few reasons why I do this, mostly privacy issues related to avoiding unwarranted judgment/stigma from something I wrote. A pen name/alias/handle protects from this problem, but also has the added benefit of being able to 'reveal yourself' at a later date if you decide to forgo the privacy stuff.

    That being said, I specifically choose to NOT assume an alias here on slashdot. I have my reasons for doing so, but they are of no consequence. The point is, you should think about your choice and the consequences of it. After weighing the information, if you are still on the fence, you should err on the side of caution and assume an alias.

    1. Re:Err on the side of caution by zuperduperman · · Score: 1

      The problem is - a key benefit of open source is the authority that you get from having participated.

      I recently attended a job interview and a key interest of theirs was that I was a contributor to the web framework stack they were using (Struts). Fortunately I made some contributions under my real name, so I was able to point them to a quick google search that verified the veracity of my claims. However since that time I became much more paranoid about my online privacy and contributed everything anonymously. I now realizing that this has a big downside - it is *very* hard for me to now benefit from any of that work that I have done. So I'm considering actually reverting back to using my real name.

      In fact, I'm considering a hybrid scheme - I will use my real name to project a professional persona, but a pen name to engage in more casual stuff (even on the same project). You just don't really want your professional name to show up involved in flame wars or joking around or any overly passionate statements in arguments - it just doesn't look good to an employer no matter how right or wrong you are in context. Yet that is necessary at times to participate in the open source world. So - two names it is.

    2. Re:Err on the side of caution by moore.dustin · · Score: 1

      I would agree and recommend that exact action in all seriousness. Your professional persona should be maintained and cared for diligently. My posting in /. with my real name is part of that, as I specifically make sure not to get into flame wars or make emphatic statements for one stance or another. I slip up now and then, but it is hardly anything I would be ashamed to own up to at the same time. Everything else, should be under an assumed alias though. In the case of wanting to own a statement made under an alias, you could choose a name that is synonymous with you in some way. Some handle including bits of information about your life, without giving yourself away. Something like your initials, alma matre mascot and birth year... you get the point ;)

  14. No reason not to... by jamincollins · · Score: 1

    I see no reason not to use my real name.

  15. Staying off the radar... heh heh by w0mprat · · Score: 2, Informative

    There are ... security related... projects one may contribute to, that one would tend to use a nickname instead of ones real name... ;)

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  16. Over KILL by Nick+Driver · · Score: 4, Funny

    Well, Hans Reiser used his real name....

    Need I say more?

    1. Re:Over KILL by Bandman · · Score: 0, Redundant

      He created a filesystem and named it after himself. It doesn't sound like he was down with the whole anonymity thing...

    2. Re:Over KILL by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Hans Reiser also killed his wife, did you know that? Looks like you missed a joke.

    3. Re:Over KILL by sorak · · Score: 4, Funny

      but he was down with the whole stabbing people thing. I know, hindsight is 20/20, but I always tell my son, do try to have something worthwhile named after you, don't stab people.

      I guess Hans Reiser got mixed up.

      BTW, if you're wondering about my alias, well, I want something worthwhile named after me, and, well, you've seen my posts.

    4. Re:Over KILL by Hans+T.+Reiser · · Score: 1

      You called?

  17. Be careful with psuedonyms! by eln · · Score: 4, Funny

    Ever since releasing my first open source OS back in '91, I've been using the pseudonym "Linus Torvalds", which I thought was a sufficiently ridiculous name that no one would ever confuse me for anyone else. Imagine my consternation when some joker from Finland started getting all of these awesome jobs and invited to speak at conferences and whatnot because everyone thought he was me! He's been milking it ever since.

    1. Re:Be careful with psuedonyms! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

      Finally, I thought I'd never find you !

      I am being harassed for years now about your shoddy coding. Please start here http://bugzilla.kernel.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1786

      Linus

  18. Can you not use your real name? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Where is my misunderstanding of copyright law? I'm sure there must be one if this is even a topic of discussion.
    How can you claim copyright, and thus release under an open source license (GPL, BSD, etc.) if you remain anonymous?
    Is not the bedrock of the entire concept of open source licenses dependent on copyright law?

    Posting anon because I'm afraid of how ignorant I'll be shown to be. ;)

    1. Re:Can you not use your real name? by LingNoi · · Score: 1

      Doesn't really hold up in court..

      "I'm the author!"
      "No, I am the author, he stole my account!" ..Written by Anonymous.

    2. Re:Can you not use your real name? by Intron · · Score: 1

      The flip side is that if you don't know who wrote the code, you can never take it closed source for fear of getting sued.

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  19. Anonymously by wagr · · Score: 2, Interesting

    I post anonymously because I'm an insensitive clod.

    Actually, I tend to answer questions on forums with my real id, or with a login that easily leads back to me. But I submit complete code blocks under one of several fake ids, and from my home system. Though I doubt I'd get fired for any of the code I've shared, we don't have any explicit policy at my job, and I don't want to test my boss's understanding of "trade secrets."

    1. Re:Anonymously by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Anonymously (Score:2, Interesting)

      by wagr (1070120) on Monday November 17, @02:17PM (#25789953)

      I post anonymously because I'm an insensitive clod.

      You're doing it wrong.

  20. For Employment Purposes by PingXao · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I never use my real name online, or at least as little as possible. The reason is I don't want future potential employers to be able to Google up any dirt - real or perceived - on me. If I want to bring some of my OSS work to a prospective employer's attention I can do that. I can also pretty much prove that I am responsible for this feature on that program, or that my contributions are legit.

    Having you real name associated online with just about anything is IMO a bad idea. The risks are high and the benefits are almost nonexistent. The odds are 10-1 (I just pulled that number out of my ass) that dirt will outrank achievments if you use your real name and someone Googles for you. That one time you got drunk and went off on some insane rant 5 years ago WILL come back to haunt you no matter how many other positive things there are.

    1. Re:For Employment Purposes by quanticle · · Score: 2, Interesting

      That one time you got drunk and went off on some insane rant 5 years ago WILL come back to haunt you no matter how many other positive things there are.

      I'm not sure about that. With the increasing omnipresence of search engines, you're going to see everybody's drunk insane rant posted and accessible online. If any prospective employer held that sort of thing against me, I doubt that I'd accept the job. Also, there are consequences to not having information about yourself online. After all, if I'm an employer and I don't see any work or any references to you online, I might wonder what you have to hide.

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    2. Re:For Employment Purposes by jaaron · · Score: 1

      Interesting. I purposefully use my real name on all the open source work I do and this has helped me for employment / consulting work tremendously. I'm very google-able and I've never had an issue.

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    3. Re:For Employment Purposes by Vozmozno · · Score: 1

      I've never really used my name online. One day, while bored I decided to google myself. My name (first and last) coincides with a painter, a writer, and a US criminal who fled to my country of residence.

      I wonder how long I'll be delayed in airport security, and if they'll double check my identity before putting the white glove on...

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    4. Re:For Employment Purposes by aaron.axvig · · Score: 2, Insightful

      I use my real name online, almost exclusively. The reason is that I want future employers to be able to Google about me and find out what my views and contributions are.

      Having my real name associated online with almost everything I do also helps keep me from ranting like a little kid, because I think clearly before I post something and consider whether I will want to read, in 10 years, that I wrote that. It encourages responsible behavior--a good thing.

  21. And to the answer...it probably doesn't matter by michaelepley · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Either as a user or developer, if you have enough money/influence that the patent holder cares to sue you, it won't matter much if you post anonymously: your real name in all likelihood will be discovered in due course.

    1. Re:And to the answer...it probably doesn't matter by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      it won't matter much if you post anonymously: your real name in all likelihood will be discovered in due course.

      Yes, but in the meantime I'll have them run around in circles scratching their heads.

    2. Re:And to the answer...it probably doesn't matter by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Just the same, you end up raising the cost of them attacking you. The other side will, whether they have a legal leg to stand on or not, work to raise the cost of proving your innocence.

      How much would you really pay to be legally permitted to spend your own time writing your own software? If everybody needed just $20 of legal insurance to submit each kernel patch, how far would Linux have gone?

    3. Re:And to the answer...it probably doesn't matter by jaaron · · Score: 1

      Exactly. Hiding your real name because you think it gives you some sort of legal anonymity or indemnity is incorrect. In fact, you'll likely be better off to use your real name.

      If you're concerned about patents with the open source work you do, then you should use a license with explicit patent clauses (such as the Apache license). Even better, your open source project should be associated with a non-profit open source / free software foundation like the FSF or ASF.

      As far as the other concerns for use of your real name, I purposefully use my real name for all the open source work I do and it's benefited me significantly.

      --
      Who said Freedom was Fair?
    4. Re:And to the answer...it probably doesn't matter by John+Hasler · · Score: 1

      > If you're concerned about patents with the open source work you do, then you should use
      > a license with explicit patent clauses (such as the Apache license).

      That is completely irrelevant to any (IMHO nonexistent) personal liability.

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  22. Two sides to this question by Bruce+Perens · · Score: 4, Interesting

    If you want to be protected by the patent terms of Open Source licenses, which for example was important in the JMRI case, you need to be properly identified. Otherwise, you may have a hard time proving to some judge that you should be protected because the plaintiff should have known that you were "Blue Salad".

    Also, the project should make your identity known in the software package as copyright holder. Apache is terrible about this, they strip attribution from most stuff.

    And I have a problem with anonomously-donated or anonymously-licensed Open Source, because how do you know the anonymous person actually had the right to donate and you won't run into trouble down the line.

    Probably the best thing you can do is assign your copyright to an organization that keeps your identity private. Maybe FSF and some of the incorporated Open Source projects would do this.

    Bruce

    1. Re:Two sides to this question by myvirtualid · · Score: 1

      If you want to be protected by the patent terms of Open Source licenses... you need to be properly identified. Otherwise, you may have a hard time proving... you were "Blue Salad".

      And on the flip side, if someone does go after "Blue Salad", they will subpoena ISP records, email provider records, and other evidence, and build an argument quite likely to convince a judge that you are, in fact, "Blue Salad". If there is real money involved, a pseudonym will not protect you.

      My conclusion? For "patent protection", a pseudonym has no real value....

      As an aside, I use my real name - Peter Whittaker - on almost all sites now because a) I'm proud of what I do, and b) as a consultant, my name is my brand. Why did I choose a pseudonym in the first place? Laziness and cheap spam protection: I wanted a single nickname to use on multiple sites, something I could throw away without regret if spam became a problem. Ironically, I never received much spam on the pseudonym@myisp.tld addresses, but did on a few of the first.last@myreallybadfirstisp.tld addresses. /. is pretty much the only place I use a pseudonym anymore. As soon as /. supports it, I will change my nickname here.

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    2. Re:Two sides to this question by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Obviously we don't know what "Blue Salad" is.

    3. Re:Two sides to this question by BotnetZombie · · Score: 1

      Otherwise, you may have a hard time proving to some judge that you should be protected because the plaintiff should have known that you were "Blue Salad".

      I spot a glitch in the space/time continuum

    4. Re:Two sides to this question by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Given that Bruce's comment was written 16 minutes after the linked to post, all you have proven is that Bruce Perens reads slashdot.

    5. Re:Two sides to this question by DragonWriter · · Score: 1

      And I have a problem with anonomously-donated or anonymously-licensed Open Source, because how do you know the anonymous person actually had the right to donate and you won't run into trouble down the line.

      How do you know someone who wasn't anonymous had that right, either, unless you've got proof that the identity given is accurate and proof of that identity's rights to the contribution is in question (such as a copyright registration for the contribution)?

      Seems to me the biggest advantage of identified contributors (if the identification is sufficient and accurate) is that you've got someone to go to and ask questions (or just point the finger at) if you run into problems down the road, not that you actually, in most cases, can really be assured that there won't be a problem down the road.

    6. Re:Two sides to this question by Bruce+Perens · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Obviously I don't have proof of every developer's identity. The major projects generally do, however, use some sort of public-key ID to make sure they know who their folks are. Debian does ID their developers as part of the key-signing process. Thus I've looked over a number of developers passports and drivers licenses.

      So, if one of those people committed some sort of deliberate crime like inserting a trojan, or uploading their employers code without permission in a way that seriously messes up the project, you can find and prosecute them. In practice, we have never had to do that. I'm a little surprised, actually.

      Here's an article I wrote about this 10 years ago!.

      Bruce

    7. Re:Two sides to this question by julesh · · Score: 1

      Probably the best thing you can do is assign your copyright to an organization that keeps your identity private. Maybe FSF and some of the incorporated Open Source projects would do this.

      And if they won't, it's simple enough to set up your own corporation. If you want good anonymity, offshore companies are good but a little on the pricey side (anyone with a valid case for legal action against you can get your identity, but they'll have to argue their case in a court in the country you registered in, which is probably neither cheap nor easy). Simple obfuscation of your identity can be achieved with a much cheaper standard company (anyone can get your identity, but they'll have to pay to get it).

  23. Let it slip out by m50d · · Score: 3, Interesting

    I found some horrible prejudice when I submitted things under my real name, so I'll always use a pseudonym for my first few patches. But while I never actually *stop* using the pseudonym, I'll gradually start e.g. signing emails with my real name; that avoids trouble and lets me get some credit for my actual self.

    --
    I am trolling
    1. Re:Let it slip out by legirons · · Score: 1

      I'll gradually start e.g. signing emails with my real name; that avoids trouble and lets me get some credit for my actual self.

      Surely it's always possible to claim credit for pseudononymous work -- if someone disbelieves you wrote it then just say you'll checkin a comment line of their choice to SVN?

    2. Re:Let it slip out by m50d · · Score: 1

      Not reliably - all that proves is I'm someone with commit access.

      --
      I am trolling
    3. Re:Let it slip out by legirons · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Not reliably - all that proves is I'm someone with commit access.

      with a particular username

  24. Re:Really? by girlintraining · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Well, that's easy enough to ignore. ._. It's easier to get people to look at the code if they think you're a guy... They don't patronize then.

    --
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  25. It depends on how proud I feel about the work by crowne · · Score: 1, Funny

    It depends on how proud I feel about the work that I am submitting ...
    Sometimes when I'm really drunk and I've only made the spacing larger to improve readability
    I don't use my real name, because by that time it getsh difficult to shpell anywayz.
    Hic!

    --
    RTFM is not a radio station.
  26. Do what you feel comfortable doing by fragbait · · Score: 1

    I'd guess you are contributing to gain some reputation, either community, professionally, or both. Otherwise, why would it matter? If it is privacy that is your highest concern, then don't do it.

    - Do what you feel comfortable with doing.
    - Protect yourself and your personal and professional reputations.
    - Don't participate in pissing matches, especially on Internet available forums.
    - Don't be a dick (e.g. that ruby on rails rant guy that said indicated past clients wanted to work with him yet in reading his rant you knew you didn't want to work with him).

    -fragbait

  27. Either one is fine by IGnatius+T+Foobar · · Score: 4, Insightful

    In the open source community it really does seem that either one is fine. This isn't like the old days of D00DZ and WAREZ and C0DEZ where you used your handle to keep the feds from figuring out who you really were. Nowadays it's more of a tradition. Most people are going to be able to match your real name and your screen name, and that's fine. I do a lot of development using both, and people are generally cool with it.

    That's strictly in the online sphere, though. If you're sitting in someone's office working out a consulting contract to build some open source software then yeah, your business card had better have your birth name on it if you want to be taken seriously.

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    1. Re:Either one is fine by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      a consulting contract to build some open source software then yeah, your business card had better have your birth name on it if you want to be taken seriously.

      In your world maybe. Personally, I'd run a mile if an engineer/scientist/programmer turned up in my office wearing a suit & talking bulshit bingo. You just know they aren't the real deal :-)

  28. Do as PJ does. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Stay hidden.
    If you have a good product, the money will find you.

  29. Please use your real name! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Real name. How can others check if I am allowed by my employer to contribute? Or if I am not tricking them into violating copyright or using someone's patents somehow? FLOSS developers should pay more attention to this!

  30. Real Name by CritterNYC · · Score: 1

    A few years ago I switched from using my handle to using my real name. I encourage other contributors to PortableApps.com to also use their real name. When companies are considering bundling your software on commercial products they like to see that an app is maintained by "Joe Thomas" rather than Ko0lDude23.

    1. Re:Real Name by clone53421 · · Score: 1

      When companies are considering bundling your software on commercial products they like to see that an app is maintained by "Joe Thomas" rather than Ko0lDude23.

      No problem, I'll just call myself Jarrod D. Henley...

      --
      Alexander Peter Kristopeit bought his basement from his mommy for one dollar.
    2. Re:Real Name by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      fun toy that (especially when it generated a postcode for near where I live)
      but I wouldnt trust it with Polish Names. Surnames in Polish tend to have gender variations ending ski is a male surname ending ska is a female surname.
        all these mothers maiden names with male endings... not good.

  31. I can tell you're really talking about me. by tclark · · Score: 1

    All right, you've got me. I've been posting code using the pseudonym "Linus Torvalds" for years, but I guess the jig is up.

  32. Sure why not by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Why wouldn't I use my real name?

    Michael Brown?

  33. Sometimes by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Interesting

    I often use my real name when contributing to open source projects, and have contributed to many over the years.

    However there have been specific cases where I wanted to submit a patch but not have it tied to my name (in some cases for fear of unjust litigation, in others just so that my name wouldn't be associated with the project for personal reasons). I've never to my knowledge submitted patches that were generated by illegal means.

    I used to use an obviously fake name (like 'Anonymous Coward') for submitting such posts (always with a valid e-mail address so I could be contacted), however The Linux Kernel folks decided they didn't want such pseudonyms in their Signed-off fields, so now I just use a made-up real looking name for those types of cases.

    To me it is pretty ridiculous to require a real name, when there is no method of verifying such a thing for most projects. I understand a valid e-mail address, and I've always used one, but what did the kernel (or Wine, or any of other such projects) gain by requiring me to make up a real looking name instead of using an obviously fake one?

  34. Hybrid system by Xenographic · · Score: 1

    I personally prefer to use a unique pseudonym for each thing I do. Then I can link it to my real name if there's any advantage to doing so, while keeping as much privacy as possible.

    Those who have always been able to use their real name can do that only because they've never met any of the creepy stalker people online.

    Free emails don't cost anything and you can forward them to a central location to sort out your identities if need be. Heck, I don't even remember how many identities I have these days...

    1. Re:Hybrid system by maxume · · Score: 1

      If you don't remember it, can you really claim it as an identity?

      Pseudonym or nickname seems more appropriate than identity in that case.

      --
      Nerd rage is the funniest rage.
  35. I might be able to hide pretty well by Stonent1 · · Score: 1

    My real name is the same as someone who is already a kernel developer for Linux as well as the name of someone who works at Microsoft as a programmer. I am neither.

    1. Re:I might be able to hide pretty well by LingNoi · · Score: 1

      Put both on your CV and rake in the cash woo hoo!

  36. pros and cons by Spazmania · · Score: 1

    Pro: someone suing has to first prove the the alias is really you.

    Con: If you want to assert your ownership, you have to first prove that the alias is really you.

    Con: Professionals use their real names. Are you a pro or a teenager?

    --
    Moderating "-1, Disagree" is simple censorship. Have the guts to post your opinion.
    1. Re:pros and cons by russotto · · Score: 1

      Con: Professionals use their real names. Are you a pro or a teenager?

      Two things. One, your premise is false. Ask James Tiptree, Jr, Kathyrn Kristine Rusch (a.k.a. Kris Nelscott, a.k.a Kristine Grayson) , George Orwell, George Eliot, Anne Rice (a.k.a. A.N. Rocquelare), etc.

      Two, a lot of people writing open source aren't doing it professionally; that is, they aren't being paid for it. That doesn't make them teenagers.

    2. Re:pros and cons by Spazmania · · Score: 1

      Con: When you want to use your work on the open source software as a discussion point in a job interview, the fact that you did that work under the alias "MafiaHitman51" hurts you.

      --
      Moderating "-1, Disagree" is simple censorship. Have the guts to post your opinion.
  37. How I do it by marhar · · Score: 1

    I release all of my open source software using my pseudonym "Linus Torvalds".

  38. Trolls Sue The Money by quarrel · · Score: 1

    Hey,

    so there are already a bunch of answers that agree with the basic premise that you may want to protect your name because patent trolls may come after you.

    Can anyone give even one concrete example of a patent troll going after an open source contributor? It seems incredibly unlikely to me. Surely they go where the money is - they sue Microsoft or Cisco or similar. Why stuff around suing people that even when you win the pay off is crap?

    I think the key premise here is just FUD.

    --Q

    1. Re:Trolls Sue The Money by node159 · · Score: 1

      Hello Mr Goldfish. I'm here to remind you about SCO and all the fun and entertainment they provided us. Regards

      --
      GPLv2: I want my rights, I want my phone call! DRM: What use is a phone call, if you are unable to speak?
    2. Re:Trolls Sue The Money by LingNoi · · Score: 1

      Find someone in England who is willing to publish your code under their name and you have no problems with patent trolls.

      Well, for the moment anyway..

    3. Re:Trolls Sue The Money by quarrel · · Score: 1

      Sure, we got entertainment.

      Name a single OSS developer they sued?

      Again, they went after the money... That's my point.

      --Q

  39. What about PGP? by bkazaz_gr · · Score: 4, Interesting

    What if you generate a PGP key and use it's ID as you "name". In that case, anyone holding the private key is essentially the copyright holder, right? ;-)

  40. Security Through Obscurity by SuperKendall · · Score: 3, Insightful

    From that early moment on, all contributions have been pretty darn anonymous

    But what happens if someone finds out? The project is still in just as much risk. That's honestly not very kind either.

    Far better is to clarify and modify that contract you are about to sign. Even the lowliest peon can easily ask to have a clause put in along the lines of "The IP section does not cover inventions made using my own equipment outside of company time" (have a lawyer write the real thing). Because otherwise by blindly agreeing, even your posts here on Slashdot are owned by your employer under the typical agreement.

    ALmost any company will let you add an addendum like that to your employment contract. Do not be overawed by contracts, they are simply a starting point.

    --
    "There is more worth loving than we have strength to love." - Brian Jay Stanley
    1. Re:Security Through Obscurity by syousef · · Score: 1

      ALmost any company will let you add an addendum like that to your employment contract. Do not be overawed by contracts, they are simply a starting point.

      -1:Naive

      Most companies will label you a trouble maker if you question anything in the contract. They will only hire you if they don't have a less troublesome alternative available. If the company wants to play fair they'll never include such a clause or at least limit it to what is work related.

      --
      These posts express my own personal views, not those of my employer
    2. Re:Security Through Obscurity by Alpha830RulZ · · Score: 2, Insightful

      My experience has been that I have gotten an exclusion all three times this has come up. The key is to be reasonable.

      --
      I was taught to respect my elders. The trouble is, it's getting harder and harder to find some.
    3. Re:Security Through Obscurity by syousef · · Score: 1

      My experience has been that I have gotten an exclusion all three times this has come up. The key is to be reasonable.

      Fantastic that you've been so fortunate. However you that will only work for certain roles with certain companies. Others have standard contracts, aren't as willing to compromise, wish to actively discourage any negotiation etc. My experience has been quite the opposite.

      --
      These posts express my own personal views, not those of my employer
    4. Re:Security Through Obscurity by cerberusss · · Score: 1

      Even the lowliest peon can easily ask to have a clause put in along the lines of[...]

      Why not just strike out said section. At one time, I got such a contract. Striked out the offending section and put my paragraph at the left. Done.

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  41. Of course I do ! by ivan_w · · Score: 1

    And although the project I am contributing to may 'irk' some powers (HAL).. I still believe it's the right thing to do.

    Ok.. I'm contributing.. On my free time.. No hope or expectation of any form of return (except for some sort of pride - and sometime recognition from my peers)..

    Basically.. it's just *FUN*..

    And I believe it's the right thing to do !

    But do I feel like I have to hide who I am ? Certainly not ! I am proud of what I do (however modest my contribution might be)

    --Ivan Warren

    PS : I did feel compelled to provide my full name on that particular subject.. go figure !

    PPS : The project I contribute to is the hercules mainframe emulator.. google it if want to know more (shameless plug !)

  42. Honor Your Work by MazzThePianoman · · Score: 1

    As somebody who uses a lot of open source applications in some critical work I would hope that the people behind it feel good enough about what they are doing to put their name on it. If you are unwilling to put your name on it then I think it is better for the project that you leave it those who can take pride in their work.

    --
    "They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety" Franklin
  43. change name slightly by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    My last name has 2 L's in it. I put 3 in it which really isn't even noticeable when you read it. No more searchy search findy find!

    1. Re:change name slightly by clone53421 · · Score: 1

      Clowlarld

      Hey, you're right... it's hardly even noticable!

      --
      Alexander Peter Kristopeit bought his basement from his mommy for one dollar.
  44. Depends. by MostAwesomeDude · · Score: 1

    I've had this handle for a very long time, and I keep it now for mostly historical reasons. On the other hand, I don't mind people knowing that my real name is Corbin Simpson, that I'm a student in Oregon, or that I attend Oregon State University.

    I certainly wouldn't ever disclose a fake name, or ever admit that it was false.

    --
    ~ C.
  45. Real Name by Manfre · · Score: 1

    All of my open source code contributions have been submitted with my real name. Doing the work with my real name has helped me get consulting work and my current salaried position.

    Employers like it when you stand proudly behind your name, instead of following the all too common formula.

  46. terrible idea to use fake name by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    By using a fake name to sign your work you are in effect telling people that you "don't stand by your work". OSS will contnue to meander along if there is no accountability in the industry in this case.

    You may say "well people in closed source don't have accountability for their code" but that is a moot point because closed-source is a different beast when compared to OSS and since OSS is still "gaining ground" it has to hold itself to a higher standard than closed-source.

    This isn't a bad thing, it's always good to hold yourself to a higher standard than your competitor.

    IMO the arguments for a pseudonym in a typical (hear that, not a-typical!!!!) programming situation are total bullshit. Now when it comes to breaking DMCA, or some other "fighting for a right" issue then I can understand where anonymity is involved.

    Oh- I'm posting anonymous because I'm lazy, not because I don't want you to know who I am.

    1. Re:terrible idea to use fake name by Darfeld · · Score: 1

      I like to sign my works under a nickname, but I don't think about it as a fake name. Darfeld is me. Bertrand Vie-Ducasse is me. Both name are only pointers pointing me.

      In the end, it's a matter of context and mood. Maybe if I work on a more serious stuff, I'll put my real name, maybe not... Maybe I'll put both.

      Well I guess that I really don't give a damn... It's just weird to sign with my real name on the Internet. But I understand the work doesn't look as serious if you don't sign by your real name.

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  47. It depends, work or game? by moniker127 · · Score: 1

    Depends on whether I'm working on something work related, or something game related, because what else is there?

  48. YHBT, Slashdot. HAND by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Name one contributor who's ever been held personally liable for his contributions.

  49. I tend to submit code patches under.... by pngwen · · Score: 1

    the user name ltorvalds. It tends to ensure that my patches are accepted at a higher rate. In fact, I get a higher acceptance rate than when I use my other screen name, rMs

    --
    I am the penguin that codes in the night.
  50. Not funny. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

    Reiser brutally murdered his wife. That's not funny at all.

    1. Re:Not funny. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

      It would have been if he had weared a funny hat while doing it.

    2. Re:Not funny. by Reynardt · · Score: 3, Funny

      "geek" and "wife" in the same sentence? HOLYSHIT.

  51. Depends on why you do it by houghi · · Score: 1

    If you do it because you want to protect yourself legaly, you must know that you do something wrong. Stop doing it. OTOH there can be many other reasons you do something under an alias. I started using my alias to have a completely sperate name offline and online. That way I would not be confused as if I were speaking for the company I worked for.
    A nickname is nothing more then a just that, a nickname. It is a name that you are known by in a certain group of people. Take somebody who is called Robert Williams (Random pick).
    His mother might still call him Bobby, his brother Robby, his wife Rob, his best man, Robster, his huntingmates Gunner, his employees Mr. Williams, his drinkingbuddies Moaner (don't ask) and his kids call him daddy first, dad later.
    All different names for different groups of people. I am sure that most people will have different names in different groups.

    The main difference might be that your online allias will be one that you picked yourself and all the others are given to you.

    --
    Don't fight for your country, if your country does not fight for you.
    1. Re:Depends on why you do it by greenreaper · · Score: 1

      Wrong to who? A company can sue you and they might, in fact, be wrong, but you would still be out thousands of dollars by that point.

  52. try... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    ...Barry Soetoro

  53. Re:Really? by Zero__Kelvin · · Score: 1

    You are hanging out with the wrong people.

    --
    Guns don't kill people; Physics kills people! - John Lithgow as Dick Solomon on Third Rock From The Sun
  54. Re:Really? by brainnolo · · Score: 2, Interesting

    My name, Michele when read with non-italian rules (ch = k in Italian) is considered a female name and you cannot even image how many people (almost exclusively Americans I must say) at first think I am a girl, yet nobody had problems looking at my code. And yes, is an awkward situation anyways.

  55. Embed your real name in your fake by drix · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Contribute using the SHA1 hash of your real name as your anonymous nickname. If you ever want to be identified you can verify that it was you who made the contributions.

    --

    I think there is a world market for maybe five personal web logs.
    1. Re:Embed your real name in your fake by clone53421 · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Heck, you could use the SHA1 hash of most near anything. The fact that you have the correct input string to yield that SHA1 hash should be enough to convince just about anyone, provided it's not something stupid like "password1".

      That said, your name would be easy to remember...

      --
      Alexander Peter Kristopeit bought his basement from his mommy for one dollar.
    2. Re:Embed your real name in your fake by skeeto · · Score: 1

      Unless you have a truly unique name, which is extremely unlikely, the problem with using your real name as the key is that real names represent a rather small keyspace and can probably be brute forced with little effort, especially since the keyspace for names isn't anywhere near uniformly distributed. Recovering your real name doesn't require searching the (gigantic) SHA-1 space, but just this much smaller set of possible real names. If lots of people did the SHA-1 name thing, someone could even make a Name->SHA-1 rainbow table to quickly match hashes to names.

      You could either salt your name with a unique nickname, i.e., Arthur Herbert "The Fonz" Fonzarelli. Or you could use a short phrase instead of or in addition to your name.

    3. Re:Embed your real name in your fake by drix · · Score: 1

      I think "little effort" overstates things a bit. Real names seem like a large-enough keyspace if you go outside of middle America and take the entire world into account. The name of a famous world leader, properly capitalized, hashes to 82f028fc9a88d87445a91190400a5516c55e8973. If anybody can identify it, I'd be fascinated to hear how they did it. And to save you the trouble no this hash is not found in Google :-)

      --

      I think there is a world market for maybe five personal web logs.
  56. Re:Really? by LingNoi · · Score: 1

    Which projects do you contribute to because I've never seen that problem before. Maybe you are just being too sensitive about the issue because it's on your mind when you post the code?

  57. Apache does this right. by jaaron · · Score: 3, Informative

    Apache strips attribution from source files to avoid anyone feeling they own a particular bit of code instead of the community in general. Authorship is maintained through the issue tracker and the subversion commit records.

    Moreover, no contributions to Apache are anonymous. All contributions through the issue tracker require the submitter to provide a license for use of the work in Apache. All committers who provide significant works are required to sign a contributor license agreement.

    Apache is one of the most thorough open source projects when it comes to ensuring we have clear rights for the works we distribute.

    --
    Who said Freedom was Fair?
    1. Re:Apache does this right. by Bruce+Perens · · Score: 2, Interesting

      I agree with everything you said. There's one problem, though.

      It's Apache policy that contributions to Apache remain copyrighted by their authors or their employers. They don't belong to the Apache project.

      Consider that Acme is using some Apache program.
      Acme sues Developer X for some patent infringement because Developer X is using the same Apache program, which Acme claims infringes their patent.
      Developer X appears as a defendant, and says (as Jacobsen said) Acme has a license from me that terminates because of their actions in bringing this suit.
      Acme tells the judge "there was nothing delivered with this program that would lead me to believe that I had any license with Developer X, and because Developer X did not mark his ownership of the copyright property I could not act on that information when considering whether to bring this suit, thus this license should not terminate".
      Developer X could lose that.

      So, I believe that Apache should deliver a list of contributors with each program, so that it is clear to all whose copyrights they are using and who the license is from.

      It's useful to note that some of Apache's largest corporate contributors or sponsors probably feel better if the license isn't enforcible. But protecting Apache and its developers from software patent lawsuits is important. I don't think it's being done as well as it could be.

      Bruce

  58. Make a List of PROs and CONs by Jherek+Carnelian · · Score: 1

    The answer to this question should be relatively easy to come to, just compare the PROs and CONs of semi-anonymity:

    PROS - very hard for anyone who wishes you ill to find you through the project
                  but not entirely impossible, subpoena of ISP records and such will probably
                  be succesful, but run-of-the-mill stalker or process server will not.

    CONS - harder to take credit for your efforts, but that can be mitigated
                  if you use a public email address from which you can privately
                  (or publically if you so wish) name your true identity

    Seems to me that of the above list, the PROs are a lot stronger than the CONs.
    Anyone else want to add to the list?

  59. Not an Open Source developer..... by Jason+Levine · · Score: 1

    I'm not an open source developer, but I find myself in a situation similar to the article's description. For the longest time (mostly due to lack of effort to come up with a good name), I used my real name online. I set up my e-mail address using it, my Slashdot account, etc. The world knew me as "Jason Levine" and I was fine with it. A couple of years ago, my wife set up a blog and decided to stay anonymous. She took great care not to link her blog-identity to my "public online-identity". A few months back, I decided to start a blog of my own and figured I might as well go anonymous also. My "alter-ego" links up to my wife's blog-identity but not to my "public online-identity." More and more, I've found myself wishing that I could go back and change my existing accounts to point to my more anonymous ID. (No, I won't reveal it here.)

    If I had it to do over again, I'd probably have chosen a nickname and stuck with it. Of course, then you might find that you outgrow your nick and want to change it. Still, you'd be able to tell people "I'm taking NickNumber1 offline and will sign up again as NickNumber2" without compromising your anonymity.

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  60. Re:Really? by JWSmythe · · Score: 3, Interesting

        I have a female friend who programs. She runs into the problem of people know she's a girl, so she obviously can't program. I've worked with her, and know she can. Sometimes I run into problems that she can solve. Sometimes she runs into problems that I can solve. That's teamwork though, not a failure of either of us to be able to do our work.

        Sometimes I've gone talked to her clients, and said exactly what she said, and they believe it when I say it, because I'm a guy and must know what I'm saying. It's not good, but I don't mind backing her up when she needs it. Really, she shouldn't need it though. Now we just have to convince the rest of the world of that.

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  61. your real name is what you are known by by justhatched · · Score: 1

    In oz, and probably many other places for that matter, your real name is what you are known by, there is no requirement to have a formal change from the birth certificate name registered by deed poll, it just makes it easier to deal with all the various institions such as banks etc.

    So if you regularly use and are known as drunkenoaf for example, that is your real name.

    Tracking down aliases that are linked to it that have an analogue address etc should be a doddle for most the the readers here, let alone someone unfriendly..

  62. Real developers use undecipherable usernames by d_54321 · · Score: 1

    I find that username consisting of a letter followed by a unpredictable string of numbers is enough to let people know you can't be tracked.

    1. Re:Real developers use undecipherable usernames by RussellSHarris · · Score: 1

      You're kidding, right? Please tell me you're kidding.

    2. Re:Real developers use undecipherable usernames by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You can't?

      Your name is David (hence the "D" in your username, I suppose). You live in Smyrna, GA. You're a programmer. You own a house and you have a mortgage. You use Opera. You own a MacBook Pro (which doesn't really have 16 exabytes of RAM, of course – virtual or otherwise). I'd likely have a good chance of spotting you at the Papa John's on 1325 Powers Ferry Rd, Marietta, GA 30067 – probably in the drive-through.

      That's not all. I can do even better...

      Your last name is Strube. Middle initial A. You're straight and you're unmarried. Your birthdate is late February or early March of 1979. You're white. You're an atheist. You're a Kennesaw State U. graduate and you went to Campbell High. You contributed $256 to Ron Paul in '08. You live at 473 Dan Pl SE, Smyrna, GA 30082. Your home has 3 bedrooms and was built in 1966.

      You in 2005...
        Again...
        from '08...

      And just for the record, I haven't even bothered to check your Slashdot posting history.

    3. Re:Real developers use undecipherable usernames by d_54321 · · Score: 1

      Yes, kidding.

  63. Simple solution... by Arimus · · Score: 1

    Just submit all patches as anonymous coward... then those pesky lawyers will have fun trying to find out just exactly which AC posted the code...

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  64. Fabrice Bellard started FFMpeg as Gérar by mmu_man · · Score: 1

    And stayed hidden for some years before getting public... http://www.ohloh.net/projects/ffmpeg/contributors/19252190931444 http://xine.cvs.sourceforge.net/viewvc/xine/xine-ui/doc/README_uk?revision=1.3&view=markup to avoid being bothered by software patents (despite them still being illegal in France and EU in general)

  65. Gerard Lantau by mmu_man · · Score: 1

    It should be G&ecute;rard Lantau. Seems /. isn't totally UTF-8 friendly...

    1. Re:Gerard Lantau by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      G&ecute;rard Lantau

      Aww, that's cute!

  66. Re: My name is... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

    My name is InsensitiveClod, you anonymous coward!

  67. Re: Salaad Green! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    terrorist! get him!

    p.s. scott green says hi.

  68. Always use a pseudonym by choke · · Score: 1

    I never use my real name. I don't claim any royalties, and that way I am not pursuable and my code is not claimable by any of my various employers who have various grasping IP clauses in my hiring contracts that range from offensive to absurd.

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  69. I believe you... by mangu · · Score: 1

    My name IS Anonymous Coward, you insensitive clod!

    What I find hard to believe is that your mother named your brother "Noël". What a ridiculous name! No wonder she had second thoughts and decided to leave you Anonymous.

    1. Re:I believe you... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Noël Coward? Never heard of him... it's a common last name, though, so you're probably thinking of somebody else.

  70. Just be yourself... by fortapocalypse · · Score: 1

    (never mind the fact that I'm writing this using my Slashdot pseudonym...)

    Seriously though, don't be afraid. Fear is the mind killer.

  71. ESR's take by fostandy · · Score: 1
    From the how to become a hacker faq (http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/hacker-howto.html ) section "Points for Style"

    The problem with screen names or handles deserves some amplification. Concealing your identity behind a handle is a juvenile and silly behavior characteristic of crackers, warez d00dz, and other lower life forms. Hackers don't do this; they're proud of what they do and want it associated with their real names. So if you have a handle, drop it. In the hacker culture it will only mark you as a loser.

    I didn't agree with this when I first read it 10 years ago and I still don't. But, I do enjoy pointing out these hardline unilateralist viewpoints by purported advocates of Free ideologies

  72. Government by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Just sign your legal name, and your federal government employer's name too.

    Ticket closed: Works for me.

  73. Wisdom by mahadiga · · Score: 1

    On Internet always focus on WHAT and not on WHO.

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  74. That is SO annoying! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Interesting

    I tried to make some patches for WINE a while ago. You know, just for the sake of contributing and fixing bugs in the code. Nothing else. Didn't care about fame, recognition or whatsoever. Yet these bastards demanded a real name to commit the patch... so I had to make one up!

    Sorry state of affairs IMHO.

    1. Re:That is SO annoying! by Tacvek · · Score: 1

      We knew it! That was a fake name. Now we need to unapply your patch. Would you mind reminding us what revision number that was?

      - WINE Real Name Enforcement Team

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  75. Who is Naive? by SuperKendall · · Score: 1

    -1:Naive

    Gee, I'm reporting what I have found through practical experience. You are reporting what seem to be some fears you picked up in high school of authority.

    Most companies will label you a trouble maker if you question anything in the contract.

    That is such bullshit. Companies of any size run all that through HR and legal departments, which have the most minimal contact with the people you actually work with (by mutual choice). I have angered HR people before by questioning stupid policies (unrelated to current discussion, it was disagreements I had with them over theories they had why people were quitting in droves) and it has ZERO impact on my ability to advance in the company (which I proceeded to do years after)

    They will only hire you if they don't have a less troublesome alternative available.

    And now we reach the most obvious demonstration of your Naivete. At the point you are signing contracts, they HAVE ALREADY AGREED TO HIRE YOU. It's not that the agreement is all that binding, but the practical reality is the guy looking for a candidate is done looking. HR is done looking. No one cares about a few words in a contract, they get small changes all the time from the other employees that are not sheeple who blindly sign anything.

    Wake up, you have way more control over your life than you think.

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    "There is more worth loving than we have strength to love." - Brian Jay Stanley
    1. Re:Who is Naive? by syousef · · Score: 1

      Gee, I'm reporting what I have found through practical experience. You are reporting what seem to be some fears you picked up in high school of authority.

      High school???? Buddy, check your facts before saying something so stuipid it makes you come across as a turnip. I've been in IT professionally for 10 years now (since Uni) and did work before then too. You know nothing about what experiences I have had and assume I'm talking out of my backside simply because your experiences have been different. I too am simply reporting what I've found through practical experience. Perhaps you could take your head out of your backside for long enough to stop making assumptions about random strangers on a message board.

      That is such bullshit. Companies of any size run all that through HR and legal departments, which have the most minimal contact with the people you actually work with (by mutual choice). I have angered HR people before by questioning stupid policies (unrelated to current discussion, it was disagreements I had with them over theories they had why people were quitting in droves) and it has ZERO impact on my ability to advance in the company (which I proceeded to do years after)

      Well then since in that one company at which this is suppose to have happened, it worked out well for you, that must mean that all HR departments and all companies work the same way, and that anyone reporting any other kind of experience must be a coward who's afraid of something he heard at highschool. Yeah that makes sense. You sir are an idiot.

      And now we reach the most obvious demonstration of your Naivete. At the point you are signing contracts, they HAVE ALREADY AGREED TO HIRE YOU. It's not that the agreement is all that binding, but the practical reality is the guy looking for a candidate is done looking. HR is done looking. No one cares about a few words in a contract, they get small changes all the time from the other employees that are not sheeple who blindly sign anything.

      Buddy I got my current job because the guy that was meant to get it (who was more experienced) asked for conditions they didn't want to agree to.

      Wake up, you have way more control over your life than you think.

      How about you wake up and realize that not all companies work the same way. Some companies will NOT vary their contracts point blank, and if that means calling back another applicant for a job, they'll do it.

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      These posts express my own personal views, not those of my employer
    2. Re:Who is Naive? by SuperKendall · · Score: 1

      It's pretty obvious you have been unable to negotiate anything because you can't figure out how to ask politely. Or were asking for too much, hard to say...

      My experience is from multiple companies, small to large. And yes, pretty much all HR/Legal departments do work like that (even at companies small enough to have a single HR person).

      Your advice offers nothing but fear to the perspective employees, I offer information that can help them understand how to take control of what they agree to. Even if they do not agree, if you ask right nothing will come of just the asking. The key is reasonable demands, and asking for provisions to allow you to own your own work at home are eminently reasonable.

      As for the assumption as to how long you had worked - I made no such assumption, I merely stated that you had carried forward an irrational fear of authority that many high school kids have. Your post did nothing to dissuade me of that opinion.

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    3. Re:Who is Naive? by syousef · · Score: 1

      It's pretty obvious you have been unable to negotiate anything because you can't figure out how to ask politely. Or were asking for too much, hard to say...

      It's pretty obvious your method is to constantly leap to conclusions without checking your facts. I have asked these questions politely in the past with the help and approval of my immediate boss (in fact very recently) and they've either been ignored or avoided. But don't let facts that you haven't bothered to check get in the way of an irrational and insulting rant. The irony of a person who's repeatedly done this lecturing me on how to be polite is mind blowing. Thanks for the laugh.

      In fact my last review which was accompanied by a renegotiation of my contract (since my employer is standardising them) resulted in a pay increase and almost uniformly positive comments about my ability to communicate. Once again, don't let facts get in your way.

      My experience is from multiple companies, small to large. And yes, pretty much all HR/Legal departments do work like that (even at companies small enough to have a single HR person).

      Well you can sure choose to ignore my experience, or without any kind of substantiation insist that I must have no social skills. You can choose to insist that what you've seen in your particular industry in your particular part of the world must apply uniformly. It makes you a provincial twit, but you can choose to do that. Or you could consider the possibility that it doesn't always work that way and that in fact you've been quite lucky.

      Your advice offers nothing but fear to the perspective employees, I offer information that can help them understand how to take control of what they agree to.

      My advice offers a different perspective and experience that counters yours. You offer blanket statements that if applied in the wrong circumstances or without tact and disgression could lose someone their job. You insist that things uniformly work in a particular way. I offer caution. Furthermore your extreme hostility means I'm finding it hard to believe your negotiation skills are as good as you claim.

      Even if they do not agree, if you ask right nothing will come of just the asking. The key is reasonable demands, and asking for provisions to allow you to own your own work at home are eminently reasonable.

      Sure, you can ask, and if you ask nicely you MAY get what you want. A lot of companies will simply refuse your requests no matter how reasonable. This is something you don't acknowledge. The bottom line is if they do this and you want the job, you either sign on the dotted line or you don't. You can lie to yourself about having some incredible degree of control over your working conditions, but in most places and for most jobs the employer will simply move on to the next job candidate before considering giving in on any condition they don't want. So sure, go ask, but to expect you'll always have a fantastic and reasonable response is as I first said naive in the extreme. Offering advice that the world always works this way is offering nothing more than a dangerous fairytale.

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    4. Re:Who is Naive? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Perhaps you could take your head out of your backside for long enough to stop making assumptions about random strangers on a message board.

      You must be new here!

  76. That works too if you can get it by SuperKendall · · Score: 1

    Why not just strike out said section

    That's obviously preferable, but a bit harder to convince HR/Legal of - saying you have some other ideas you wish to keep separate is totally understandable and easy to get approved. I'm just trying to present the easiest path for someone new to the concept of asking for alterations in contracts.

    Because no-one really reads anything very carefully (even most lawyers) it's way easier to get a paragraph in that negates another, than to seek to strike out something altogether.

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    "There is more worth loving than we have strength to love." - Brian Jay Stanley
    1. Re:That works too if you can get it by cerberusss · · Score: 1

      Hm that's a really good suggestion. Both approaches can be tried and it makes for a nice bargaining tactic: first ask to make broad strikes in the contract and expect to be denied. Then make a small request (an extra paragraph) which will be harder for them to deny.

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  77. Wikipedia. by julesh · · Score: 1

    Real name. It means I'm one of only two people I know who is mentioned in wikipedia. Of course, I'm unlikely to top the amusement value of the other. :)

  78. Big advantage of psuedonym... by JetScootr · · Score: 1

    Using a fake name offers at least the possibility of deciding later if you want to be known with a particular project. Since you speak with both voices, your pseudonum can out your real name when you choose, and when it is to your advantage to do so.
    This assumes, of course, you're not outed some other way first. But at least the possibility of remaining anonymous is there. Use your real name first, and you can't ever take it back.

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    Pavlov wouldn't be so famous if he'd used a can opener instead of a bell.
  79. Wrong,wrong,wrongwrongrongrong.... by JetScootr · · Score: 1

    If you do it because you want to protect yourself legaly, you must know that you do something wrong.
    SCOTUS has ruled that desire to exercise one's right to privacy is no indication of suspicious activity. I'm not mentioning US Supremes cuz it's enforceable worldwide, but to show that learned persons who studied the concept in depth disagree with your statement.
    Remaining anonymous to protect oneself legally only implies concern and caution that someone is doing something wrong. Yeah, you might win in court, but it's better to avoid meritless litigation, patent trolls,etc altogether. It also helps avoid becoming collateral damage in the ideological/economic war between the proprietary and libre sides of the marketplace.

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  80. Re:Trolls Sue The Money:Hereya go by JetScootr · · Score: 1

    A few years back, an open source project working on a railroad train/computer interface thingum got sued. Google it, it was even here on /.
    In any case, you don't have to be directly in the crosshairs to lose money to a troll. In order to get the money, and to avoid losing, trolls will drag into the case most any name they can justify. It's a hassle, it's costly, even if you're not the direct target. In litigation like this, there's no assurance you'll be able to recover expenses if you're just collateral damage.

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  81. pseudonym != anonymity by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    And YOU anonymous coward are from, um, somewhere...

    Pseudonyms != anonymity. Data can be easily aggregated (and tracked) into "personal profiles". I used to have a spam pseudonym & email, but over time it becomes an identity that (with effort) could be traced back to me.

    The only way to get real anonymity is to have a new pseudonym for every different occasion. Probably more pain than its worth. Even Tor is so painfully slow that I stopped using it after finishing a trip to China and having access to my emails again.

  82. Re:Really? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Actually, I'm not sure it's the ch that does it. For me it's the 'e' on the end. I'm not sure exactly how wide-spread it is in languages, but male names tend to end in a consonent, female names in a vowel. Note how 'Micheal' is clearly a male name.

  83. Re:Really? by againjj · · Score: 1

    It's the fact that Michelle is a woman's name, and much more common than Michele. I had never seen a Michele before 8 months ago, and you are the second. And I am in America.

  84. Nickname == real name by againjj · · Score: 1

    A name is nothing more than an identity. It is not an individual. This applies to either birth names, legal names, aliases, nicknames, login names, etc. In California, common law states that any name that you regularly use in public affairs is a legal name. My brother changed his name that way. The real question is whether to use a name that is traceable to an individual, and with how much effort. All you need is to be able to prove the individual behind the identity, should you have a requirement to do so later. And if you want anonymity, you have a name that is not traceable.

  85. Re:Really? by clone53421 · · Score: 1

    It's the "e" on the end, just like GP stated. Think about it...

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  86. Re:Really? by brainnolo · · Score: 1

    In Italian very few names end in consonant (I cannot recall any that is not of foreign origins). I thought it was mostly the ch cause that way it would sound like Michelle, while with 'k' is way more like Mike.

  87. Re:Really? by brainnolo · · Score: 1

    Yes probably Italian names are not very common there, although here Michele is a very common name.