New Star Trek Trailer

roelbj writes "The full trailer to the next Star Trek movie is now available at the movie's official web site. The upcoming J.J. Abrams-helmed installment represents a changing of the guard, a reboot of the franchise, and a return to the original-series crew. It should prove interesting to see how Abrams' writing staff (Cloverfield, Lost, Alias) tackles the Star Trek universe and all the continuity and baggage that comes with it."

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Sorry, but...

[Kozar_The_Malignant]

"It's dead, Jim."

another quicktime update

[ufpdom]

Could this be available in something other than requiring me a update in software to my machine?

Re:scantily clad people

[sl0ppy]

Watching that trailer it seems like they've made an effort to sex-up trek

have you seen the TOS?

seriously.

star trek had scantily clad women in almost every episode, with barely veiled (for the time) bouts of kirk scoring with every single one of them. even TNG had commander "horndog" riker.

Both franchise shared the same fate.

[DrYak]

Isn't using a Star Wars quote in a Star Trek thread a hanging offense on Slashdot?

As both franchise got similarly raped by dubious quality prequels :
No.
It's just horribly deceived StarWars fan's way to share their pain with soon-to-be-wanting-to-"unsee" StarTrek fans.

Re:Both franchise shared the same fate.

[TrekkieGod]

As both franchise got similarly raped by dubious quality prequels

I had some hopes for this movie, because I like JJ Abrams. Now that I've seen the trailer, I can't help but agree with you. Holy crap, what is so hard about making good star trek movies? They have so much background to choose from, finding the right story should be easy.

Actually, I know what the problem is. They see the fanbase as a bonus, not as the target demographic. We have these people who are going to see the movie no matter what, so might as well aim for a completely different demographic. This way we get the other people AND the trek nerds!!!

We need to start boycotting this shit. If they don't start making good trek to bring us back, at least it might cause them to stop making trek altogether. That would be an improvement.

Re:Both franchise shared the same fate.

[hey!]

Well, Star Wars had the problem that Lucas didn't have that much to say, and by the time he got around the to the prequels he had plenty of money to say it with.

Star Trek was simple overexposure. They didn't have enough good writing to cover two simultaneous series and the bled the well dry.

Re:Both franchise shared the same fate.

[ConceptJunkie]

Now that I've seen the trailer, I can't help but agree with you.

And there's never been a targeted trailer? They do this all the time, making a more action-oriented trailer for showing before an action movie ("Quantum of Solace") that makes the movie look more "summer blockbustery" than it really is. There's nothing saying this movie can't be the Star Trek we know and love and are hoping it will be. A later trailer may show the character aspect of the movie. Obviously you expect action in this movie and the trailer says, "Yep. There's action." It was being shown to a James Bond crowd (among others). It doesn't mean the whole tone of the movie is going to be like Transformers (which I liked by the way) as opposed to "Star Trek: TMP". I'm willing to give Abrams the benefit of the doubt for now. It looks cool, and it looks fun. Maybe it will be a lame piece of fluff. But at least wait until you see the movie before writing it off as crap. Ya never know. It might be good.

Re:Both franchise shared the same fate.

[TrekkieGod]

No, I mean the way the 4th series ended. Nonsensical, totally unfinished and chopped off at the knees.

Oh, we agree there.

I had really gotten into the 4th series: it had finally found itself and developed into a good story. Compulsory watching in my house. Then someone dragged it out back and shot it through the head because the fans didn't just deserted it, but threw shit pies at it every chance they got

No, that's not quite what happened. Everyone deserted it before it had become good. You can't expect people to watch crap for years while they get their stuff together. By the time they did, few people were watching to realize they had gotten better, and it was just too late to get the ratings up, so it got canceled.

Blame the whole, "let's make trek new and sexy, and very much unlike trek. In fact, let's drop the Star Trek name from the series, and just call it Enterprise, and drop the orchestral theme song...let's make it completely unlike trek!" mentality that was the beginning of Enterprise for the desertion. Like I said, if they had started the series with the type of writing they had in the fourth season, nobody would have complained.

And now here you are getting all judgmental and suggesting the same, based on a 2 min clip of a film not even released yet.

No, I was the one who was looking forward to it, despite all the bad things I kept hearing about it. Did you see the stupid car chase with young Kirk in that trailer? What is the point of that? It's a lame attempt to show what a rebel Kirk was in his childhood. Woohoo!

That type of scene is a sign of lack of story in any movie. They're trying to make a summer action flick to attract the non-trekkies, instead of making a good Star Trek movie. Same problem they had with Enterprise (in the beginning).

Quicktime? Seriously?

[FSWKU]

Karma be damned, this has to be said.

Why the hell are almost ALL new movie trailers hosted by Apple, with each requiring Quicktime. And why does every new trailer seem to REQUIRE me to update to the latest version of that bloated, memory-gobbling, unwanted startup service inserting, file association stealing, iTunes pushing crap just to play a damned VIDEO? I'd rather have a larger filesize and get a standard-ish format like DivX than have to use this crap just to shave off some bits on the encode. I already have PROPER h.264 support on my system, so just let me download the damned trailer and watch it with something that's NOT QUICKTIME. The implementation Apple uses for that isn't even compatible with the standard, for crying out loud.

This story really needs to be tagged with "fuckquicktime"

Re:Uneasy

[Itchyeyes]

I dunno. Personally, I'll take "mindless summer action flick" over the complete cheese-fest everything Star Trek has been for the last decade. No offense intended to the Trek faithful out there, but I think a lot of them are blinded by their nostalgia for the series. Hold the Star Trek of today up next to something like BSG or Firefly/Serenity and the disparities in quality become pretty obvious.

This new movie may not be the return to former glory that many were hoping for, but at least it's a departure from the path towards obscurity that the series has been headed down for so many years now.

Re:Uneasy

[girlintraining]

Why? Because need a distraction! We need something mindless to watch that we don't have to think about because we do enough of that when we're out of the theatres. Thinking today is depressing, and we don't want to be depressed. We want to sit back and dream that the world is beautiful when it's not. We want to believe that we're just a few short technological leaps away from salvation, and we want to imagine ourselves in this "better world" -- a better world that doesn't involve us changing who we are, or sacrificing the things we want.

So we throw a bunch of cast members together, make a bunch of stereotyped caricatures out of them so that we can all find at least one to identify with, and then send them off to wreck bloody vengance on the world because we're so sick of feeling powerless that the idea of fighting some righteous battle is very appealing. And of course they'll reward us in this fantasy world with sex, power, and a grand adventure.

Yeah. They raped our childhood. Yeah, it jumped the shark. It's only because we're too afraid to dream of Utopia. We're too afraid to think that our neighbors aren't our enemies but could be our allies, our friends. We're scared of people who are differently colored than us, who think differently than us, and we know deep down inside that the world is not beautiful anymore and we'd better start picking sides now before everything falls apart.

That was the genius of Roddenberry; He made a futuristic utopia that was still populated by people just as flawed, just as human as we were, but we worked together because there were BIGGER differences out there. Aliens bent on world domination. Space probes gone beserk. A new challenge every week that was so much bigger than something as petty as race and sex differences to unite everyone. And now that he's dead, nobody's got the guts to dream big anymore. So we fall back on what we know... The same old conflicts, the same old prejudices... And it's so much easier to identify with feeling righteous and wanting to be violent than it is to take the high road and endure conflict and tension to create mutually empowering relationships.

Hollywood is a mirror... It shows us at our best, and at our worst. You will be missed, Gene.

It's Alive, Jim! Alive!

[fm6]

It has run its course, move on.

Dude, have been to the theater lately? Everything is recycled. Old movies, old TV shows. foreign movies, comic books, video games... The biggest blockbuster last summer was the third installment in franchise that started out as a theme park ride. (Not a very good one, either.) Martin Scorsese not only recycled a Hong Kong action flick, he won an Oscar for doing it!

For some reason, it's much harder to get an expensive movie or TV production greenlighted if it's totally original. It has to be a copy of something else. The original doesn't even have been successful!

Look at Battlestar Galactica. The remake only caries over the barest elements of the premise and a lot of not very important details. Creatively, it would have made more sense to start from scratch. But no, in order to get made, the series had to be based on a older series by one of TV's most notorious hacks and ripoff artists that barely lasted a single season.

Like they say on the show, "It has happened before, it will happen again!"

Hard to understand the bitterness here

[greg_barton]

I'm 38 and I've been watching Star Trek since I was five. The first text I remember reading and understanding were the credits to TOS. By the time I was seven I could tell you the entire plot of a TOS episode by watching the first ten seconds, max.

I thought the trailer was frikkin' awesome. I don't understand the bitterness and disappointment. And I'm not a trek fanboi, either. I stopped watching the series' about one season into Voyager and missed most of Enterprise.

All of this bitching about continuity being broken and stuff going against canon: jesus christ, who cares? It's fiction, people. It's not immutable.

Re:scantily clad people

[hondo77]

...but are tits really the answer...

Stop right there. Tits are always the answer.

Re:Uneasy

[TrekkieGod]

One thing to be careful about is that there needs to be 2 captains of the Enterprise _before_ Kirk...

They've already said there's no mention of Robert April. I'm actually not very mad about that. April was never cannon (he was introduced in the animated series). A bigger continuity flaw in the trailer is the fact that Kirk can drive a stick. He had serious problems with it in "Patterns of Force."

Then again, continuity flaws are everywhere. I may not like them, but I've learned to live with them. What really pisses me off is the entire stupid scene with kirk driving and destroying a vintage automobile in that trailer just so they can show what rebel of a kid he was is uber-lame. I would be annoyed at that scene if I saw it in any movie, not just Star Trek.

Nah... boycotts are too passive...

[denzacar]

How the hell are they gonna know we are boycotting? And why should they care?
SOMEONE will pay for the tickets. SOMEONE payed to see "The Hottie & the Nottie" for fuck's sake.

And since actually gathering money to pay for more of what fans like (Remember Enterprise donation gathering?) does not work - maybe a more pro-active approach is required?

I propose packages of dead cats and live cockroaches.
Second batch should have an additional payload of microwave popcorn and small metal objects - for when they start microwaving their mail.