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New Star Trek Trailer
roelbj writes "The full trailer to the next Star Trek movie is now available at the movie's official web site. The upcoming J.J. Abrams-helmed installment represents a changing of the guard, a reboot of the franchise, and a return to the original-series crew. It should prove interesting to see how Abrams' writing staff (Cloverfield, Lost, Alias) tackles the Star Trek universe and all the continuity and baggage that comes with it."
I felt a great disturbance in the Force, as if millions of voices suddenly cried out in terror and were suddenly silenced.
I fear something terrible has happened.
The problem I had after watching this trailer was that it looks like they're turning Star Trek into a mindless summer action flick. I like those movies as much as anyone else, but the franchise deserves something better than that.
I also still think Kirk looks like a preppy douche, not a skilled (if overly testosterone-driven) starship captain. Rest of the cast still looks fine.
"16MB (fuck off, MiB fascists)" - The Mighty Buzzard
"It's dead, Jim."
Some mornings it's hardly worth chewing through the restraints to get out of bed.
Could this be available in something other than requiring me a update in software to my machine?
There's no Freedom like UFP-dom
No silly, it's about watches.
Quis custodiet ipsos chronos?
I know it cuts against the grain for slashdot, but are tits really the answer to Star Trek's woe's? Watching that trailer it seems like they've made an effort to sex-up trek. I don't have any issue with attractive women being on board, I'd think that by the time that we're launching warp-capable ships that it'll be fairly easy to have an attractive body. I just don't think that having bra-clad women(what, no better tech in THAT area yet?) or showing softcore porn on a bed is really the best way to make people take trek seriously.
meh, I suppose the old methods weren't working, might as well try something new eh?
I still think the best continuation of the Star Trek Universe is Boston Legal. It's got Kirk and Odo and Quark and even Seven of Nine a couple of years back.
Some mornings it's hardly worth chewing through the restraints to get out of bed.
Isn't using a Star Wars quote in a Star Trek thread a hanging offense on Slashdot?
As both franchise got similarly raped by dubious quality prequels :
No.
It's just horribly deceived StarWars fan's way to share their pain with soon-to-be-wanting-to-"unsee" StarTrek fans.
"Sufficiently advanced satire is indistinguishable from reality." - [Tips: 1DrYakQDKCQ6y52z6QbnkxHXAocMZJE61o ]
I thought that the film's ---GO BACK--- slogan and logo (with the "zing" through it) was intriguing - but then I realised that it was just a site navigation button.
Eric Baird
Karma be damned, this has to be said.
Why the hell are almost ALL new movie trailers hosted by Apple, with each requiring Quicktime. And why does every new trailer seem to REQUIRE me to update to the latest version of that bloated, memory-gobbling, unwanted startup service inserting, file association stealing, iTunes pushing crap just to play a damned VIDEO? I'd rather have a larger filesize and get a standard-ish format like DivX than have to use this crap just to shave off some bits on the encode. I already have PROPER h.264 support on my system, so just let me download the damned trailer and watch it with something that's NOT QUICKTIME. The implementation Apple uses for that isn't even compatible with the standard, for crying out loud.
This story really needs to be tagged with "fuckquicktime"
"So after all this, you make my case for me. To end this stalemate, you must die..."
works nicely with VLC under linux too (that is with native linux opensource codecs as FFMPEG. No evil closed source QuickTime DLLs required).
mplayer also does a nice trick impersonating a quicktime plugin.
"Sufficiently advanced satire is indistinguishable from reality." - [Tips: 1DrYakQDKCQ6y52z6QbnkxHXAocMZJE61o ]
So, there is something wrong with the movie, I think.
In the trailer, we see Kirk racing his motorbike and seeing the Enterprise being built.
Wasn't it built in Earth orbit, you ask?
Well, I think they got *that* part right. According to the Original Series Dedication Plaque, the Constitution Class Enterprise was constructed at San Francisco Fleet Yards on Earth and in Earth orbit. According to the Star Trek Encyclopedia, the orbital facility and starbase featured in ST: TMP was San Francisco Fleet Yards. According to the novelization of ST: A Flag Full of Stars, the San Francisco Fleet Yards also had facilities on Earth.
So, if Kirk was racing his bike in the San Francisco area, he *could* have seen the enterprise being built.
But.. I say, he still couldn't have!!
You see, Enterprise was built and launched in 2245
Kirk was born in 2233.
He would have been only 12 years old at the time they show him racing his bike and seeing the enterprise being built.
Use Mplayer .
mplayer -fs -cache 1024 -cache-min 99 'http://movies.apple.com/movies/paramount/star_trek/startrek-tlr2_h.640.mov'
works just fine on my crappy K7 system. ( Kubuntu 8.04 )
jdb2
It has run its course, move on.
Dude, have been to the theater lately? Everything is recycled. Old movies, old TV shows. foreign movies, comic books, video games... The biggest blockbuster last summer was the third installment in franchise that started out as a theme park ride. (Not a very good one, either.) Martin Scorsese not only recycled a Hong Kong action flick, he won an Oscar for doing it!
For some reason, it's much harder to get an expensive movie or TV production greenlighted if it's totally original. It has to be a copy of something else. The original doesn't even have been successful!
Look at Battlestar Galactica. The remake only caries over the barest elements of the premise and a lot of not very important details. Creatively, it would have made more sense to start from scratch. But no, in order to get made, the series had to be based on a older series by one of TV's most notorious hacks and ripoff artists that barely lasted a single season.
Like they say on the show, "It has happened before, it will happen again!"
I'm 38 and I've been watching Star Trek since I was five. The first text I remember reading and understanding were the credits to TOS. By the time I was seven I could tell you the entire plot of a TOS episode by watching the first ten seconds, max.
I thought the trailer was frikkin' awesome. I don't understand the bitterness and disappointment. And I'm not a trek fanboi, either. I stopped watching the series' about one season into Voyager and missed most of Enterprise.
All of this bitching about continuity being broken and stuff going against canon: jesus christ, who cares? It's fiction, people. It's not immutable.
You do realize that Abrams' "writing staff," in this case, consists entirely of Alex Kurtzman and Roberto Orci?
For the record, these guys had nothing to do with Lost or Cloverfield (for whatever that's worth), though they've certainly made a significant contribution to Alias and its wig-based story-lines. They cut their teeth on "Hercules: The Legendary Journeys" (and later "Jack of All Trades", no less), and gave us such gems as The Island, Transformers, and currently The Fringe (where you have people going from embryo to adult in a matter of a few hours, gaining some 150lb of mass out of thin air, because someone fucked with some cell cycle regulators a bit - I hate it when that happens).
I'd like to say I'm surprised that these guys keep getting work, but I think it's just the idealist in me that wants to think I should be surprised. It's not that they are bad writers, really; they've just elevated "formulaic hackery" to such an art form that I'm pretty sure the whole process could be completely automated by now, and summer blockbusters could be cranked out with no human involvement whatsoever, with similar results to what we get now.
Still, I might have to see this just for the hilarious casting: Simon Pegg, Carl Urban, John Cho, and Sylar as Sylar - just, WTF?
sic transit gloria mundi
In Aeonite's defense, he did try to find an alternative to using a reference from another space movie. Honest. I actually saw him out combing the desert.
From here.
As has already been mentioned this looks more like a Summer Blockbluster then anything else. I was expecting to see Will Smith strut into a scene with a cigar splutting a corney one-liner.
ST is old. We have had 18 YEARS of non-stop Trek (TNG aired in 1987, Enterprise ended in 2005) and reusing the same script for many of those shows. We were/are tired of seeing the same thing over and over again. You know what we are not tired of?
Hope, charisma, and a calm assurance of success.
TOS had this in spades, and we responded with resounding joy. The others all took a piece of that formula, but none had it the same.
This movie looks like it has nothing to offer but flash and CGI. The original Kirk could have just as easily been a pirate-ship captain; he was cunning, daring, full of guile, and a swashbuckler. This new Kirk looks like Prep-School prankster.
This reboot looks like it has lost the original intent. That is why it will fail.
"The price good men pay for indifference to public affairs is to be ruled by evil men." ~Plato (427-347 BC)
Is it really too much to ask that a story in an established franchise stick to previously established material?
Otherwise, it is just a cynical attempt to cash in on an existing fan base by making a movie that is NOT Star Trek and then use the character names and a few items from that franchise to get them to pay to see it anyway.
Think about it. What is the MINIMUM number of changes that would have to be made in that trailer to make it a Battlestar Galactica movie? A Perry Rhodan movie? Another Star Wars movie? Another Starship Troopers movie?
THAT is why canon is important.
The next star trek film is going to be written by some of the very worst writers the TV industry has ever seen?
StarGate writers need jobs, too!
I drank what? -- Socrates
Let's hope Spock doesn't go on a rampage, opening up aliens heads with his finger to steal their psychic powers.
Direct links to trailers:
480p: http://movies.apple.com/movies/paramount/star_trek/startrek-tlr2_h480p.mov
720p: http://movies.apple.com/movies/paramount/star_trek/startrek-tlr2_h720p.mov
1080p: http://movies.apple.com/movies/paramount/star_trek/startrek-tlr2_h1080p.mov
All play perfectly in VLC and mplayer.
Not if they're yours.
Shai Schticks:"You don't make peace with friends, you make peace with enemies"
First we have the unfortunate case of James T. Kirk. As we all know, Kirk is the youngest ever graduate of Starfleet, and has been used, intensively, in all our promotional materials for the last three months. Unfortunately, it seems that our Mr Kirk was not all that he seemed. As you know, Kirk managed a perfect score in what was supposed to be an unwinnable simulation, by hacking the computer. What you don't know is that a subsequent investigation revealed that Mr Kirk also passed all his other assessments, including his psychological assessments, the same way. His actual scores show Kirk to be emotionally unstable, over-excitable, prone to megalomania and paranoia, and he appears to have an obsession with knives and "fucking green pontang". He even lied about his name, his middle name isn't Tiberius, it's Timothy. He's a fraud, and a complete liability to Starfleet.
This brings us to problem number two. Spock. As we all know, Mr's Spock's mixed-blood heritage is regarded as an affront both to conservative Vulcan society and to right-wing Earthers. He doesn't "fit in" in either society, which is why his father decided to put him into Starfleet in the first place. Spock has limited social skills that make him a liability as a crew member. He was befriended by Kirk for his computer expertise, and now he ought to be facing criminal charges alongside Kirk. Needless to say, the prosecution of the "mixed-species" son of the Vulcan Ambassador would be deeply embarrassing, and would play into the hands of separatist elements on both sides. We can't afford to let this happen.
This brings us to problem number three, the USS Enterprise. ... detritus was discovered at the bottom of a Jeffries tube. Broken glassware. Specifically, broken whisky bottles. It now appears that the Supervising Engineer originally in charge of the Enterprise's construction, Scott, was suffering from intermittent alcoholic blackouts during construction, and was systematically falsifying the engineering certification paperwork. I'm afraid that the Enterprise cannot now be considered safe for further deployment.
Four weeks ago, in EarthDock, in a standard post-mission checkup, a pile of
Along with these three disasters, we also have a number of more minor personnel problems, for example, one Doctor McCoy, who killed fourteen people in Starfleet Medical last year. McCoy had a breakdown a few weeks after disconnecting his father's life-support systems, and ran amok in the intensive care ward, screaming "I'm a murderer not a doctor!", and pulled twenty plugs before someone stopped him. Only six survived. Do I see some murmurs of recognition? Yes, we managed to keep the "Killer McCoy" episode out of the press, but I see that some rumours have managed to spread through the ranks, nevertheless. McCoy has responded to therapy, and is declared fully rehabilitated, but he still has a tendency to repeat his psychologist's assigned mantra "I'm a doctor, not a murderer" under times of stress, and we don't quite know where to put him. Too many people have heard the rumours. We also have a certain Officer Uhura, who ... I see some of us around the table are blushing ... seems to have taken her training as "communications specialist" rather too much to heart, and seems to have been "communicating" with rather too many higher members of the command structure, with the obvious attendant security implications. We've also scraped together a list of other minor "problem" personnel. You each have a copy in the folder in front of you. None of those folders will leave this room.
Now, my proposed solution is to solve all these
Eric Baird
windows people who dont want to install that apple crapware
1. get quicktime alternative ( http://www.free-codecs.com/download/quicktime_alternative.htm)
2. open this url http://movies.apple.com/movies/paramount/star_trek/startrek-tlr2_h.640.mov
in vlc player
*smacks his forehead* Ok what makes this movie suck. Mr. Abrams needs to go hang himself since he "promised" it would stay in cannon. Well first off no cars are in Star Trek unless you're on the Gangster Planet from the TOS episode "A piece of the action." Secondly: Kirk and Spock never served together on the Enterprise until AFTER the episode "The Cage" according to cannon which was 13 years ago from the point of the episode "The Menagerie". I'm unsure when Kirk began his command on the Enterprise. I would assume at the beginning of the five year mission but I seriously can't remember, anyway. Robert April was the first Captain of the Enterprise, Christopher Pike was the second captain of the Enterprise and Captain James Tiberius Kirk was the Third Captain of the Enterprise. Spock was serving on the Enterprise with Captain Pike. While Kirk was on the Farragut if you recall the episode "Court Martial". So Brannon Braga ruined Star Trek with that evil third season of Enterprise and now we have Abrams to finish the job and finally kill the franchise. Braga and Abrams need to both do the world a favor and hang themselves and keep their filthy paws off of Star Trek.
How the hell are they gonna know we are boycotting? And why should they care?
SOMEONE will pay for the tickets. SOMEONE payed to see "The Hottie & the Nottie" for fuck's sake.
And since actually gathering money to pay for more of what fans like (Remember Enterprise donation gathering?) does not work - maybe a more pro-active approach is required?
I propose packages of dead cats and live cockroaches.
Second batch should have an additional payload of microwave popcorn and small metal objects - for when they start microwaving their mail.
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