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Urine Passes NASA Taste Test

Ponca City, We love you writes "Astronauts flying aboard space shuttle Endeavour are delivering a device to the International Space Station that may leave you wondering if NASA is taking recycling too far. Among the ship's cargo is a water regeneration system that distills, filters, ionizes, and oxidizes wastewater — including urine — into fresh water for drinking or, as one astronaut puts it, 'will make yesterday's coffee into today's coffee.' The US space agency spent $250M for the water recycling equipment but with the space shuttles due to retire in two years, NASA needed to make sure the station crew would have a good supply of fresh water. The Environmental Control and Life Support Systems uses a purification process called vapor compression distillation: urine is boiled until the water in it turns to steam. In space, there's an additional challenge: steam doesn't rise, so the entire distillation system is spun to create artificial gravity to separate the steam from the brine. The water has been thoroughly tested on Earth, including blind taste tests that pitted recycled urine with similarly treated tap water. 'Some people may think it's downright disgusting, but if it's done correctly, you process water that's purer than what you drink here on Earth,' said Endeavour astronaut Heidemarie Stefanyshyn-Piper."

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  1. Neat by Captain+Splendid · · Score: 5, Funny

    However, I don't think anybody wants to drink this warm, so better make that piss frosty.

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    1. Re:Neat by Scutter · · Score: 5, Funny

      Some of us can't throw away $250M on something like this, we're forced to drink ours le naturale.

      Yeah, but here you pay a buck per can and call it "Budweiser".

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    2. Re:Neat by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

      Yeah, pretty disgusting. That's why I never flush my toilet.

    3. Re:Neat by Ethanol-fueled · · Score: 5, Informative

      You jest, but in some countries like China or Mexico, the excrement-ridden toilet paper isn't flushed. It's simply tossed into the wastebasket. It's one of those foreign things that's hard to take at first sight, much like public sale of dogs for human-food.

      I was introduced to the T.P. phenomenon after a Mexican buddy visited my home. I'd been to Mexico many times but I didn't know not to flush because I never took shits there and I was usually so drunk that I never bothered to look in the trash bins. Seeing that ugly brown clump in my wastebasket was enough to ban him from my apartment for a good 2 months before I learned the truth from a few more buddies at home and abroad. Ahh, Western ignorance! :D

    4. Re:Neat by cyn1c77 · · Score: 5, Funny

      Mythbusters looked at the toothbrush / fecal bacteria thing and found bacteria on a toothbrush kept in the kitchen. That stuff gets everywhere.

      That's not from the toilet flushing, that's because you left me alone with your toothbrush for 5 minutes.

      I can't help it, when I have an itch, I HAVE to scratch it!

  2. Childish by Dan+East · · Score: 5, Insightful

    It's bad enough that the mainstream media has been acting like a bunch of prepubescent children over the urine recycling, but now Slashdot has to get into the game as well?

    "that may leave you wondering if NASA is taking recycling too far"

    Uh, nope, it doesn't leave me wondering that at all. In fact, when I first read about it I was rather surprised that the ISS wasn't recycling urine already. Any manned moon-base, or long-duration trip to reach Mars, would absolutely require the recycling of urine.

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    1. Re:Childish by maxume · · Score: 5, Informative

      People are too far from their food. If people are upset over urine, what would they think of all of the solid waste that ends up as fertilizer?

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    2. Re:Childish by MichaelSmith · · Score: 5, Informative

      In fact, when I first read about it I was rather surprised that the ISS wasn't recycling urine already.

      Same here.

      Isn't it pretty much the safest source of drinking water? You only need something that can handle things that are already in the bodies of the astronauts. We can safely assume none of them have any nasty viruses in them, and I'm pretty sure we don't have bacteria in our own urine, so you're down to getting the sodium and urea out of it I guess.

      This has been debated here in Australia in places where water is very scarce. One issue is with hormones and drugs which get into the urine and can find their way back into the food supply via a recycling system.

      Outside inputs to the food chain are heavily regulated on the ISS so I assume this aspect is taken care of.

  3. If you want to impress me by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    turn today's brownies into tomorrow's brownies

    1. Re:If you want to impress me by Bicx · · Score: 5, Funny

      McDonald's uses a similar process to create their hamburger patties.

  4. disgusting? by pescadero · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Why is that so disgusting? All the water you drink was probably pee at some point anyway.

  5. Taking recycling too far by KenMcM · · Score: 5, Funny

    I'd be worried if they were attempting this and they didn't take the recycling far enough.

  6. Had a glass of water at Lake Tahoe CA? by n76lima · · Score: 5, Informative

    The waste water treatment industry has 3 levels of treatment here on Earth. Primary was what was done in the 60's and before (if any treatment). Solids were ground and held to allow bacteria to digest it (the septic tank method) and it was dumped in the river to dilute it for downstream, with a shot of Chlorine. Then secondary treatment came online in the 70's and later, which is what most municipalities do today, where the solids are filtered out by vacuum or pressure filters and burned or buried, but you'd still be able to tell that the chlorine treated effluent was far from potable.

    Finally there is tertiary treatment, which yields water so pure you could drink it (disgusting as it might seem), and this is what is implemented at locations such as Lake Tahoe CA. The water flowing out of the waste water treatment is cleaner than that in the lake itself, after the calcium filtration, etc. There are also de-nitrogenation and de-phosphoration processes to "scrub" the effluent of excess Nitrogen and Phosphorus.

    How did you think the Mission to Mars was going to supply water to the crew? Certainly could not tanker enough fresh water to make the multi-year trip to Mars AND BACK.

  7. blind taste tests? by JimboFBX · · Score: 5, Funny

    "Here I'll put a blind fold on you and.. there you go, ok now drink this delicious fluid." "Hmmm its water, but it doesnt taste like tap water, it tastes filtered. Aquafina?" "No, pee" *PHHHttt*

  8. Re:Yeah, well by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    How do you know it wasn't actually Budweiser?

    Because he only puked for an hour!
     

  9. Already featured in Crichton's "Congo" (1980) by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Interesting

    "This is our advanced technology unit" she said, lifting up a small backpack. "We've developed a miniaturized package for field parties; twenty pounds of equipment contains everything a man needs for two weeks:food, water, clothing, everything."

    "Even water?" Elliot asked. Water was heavy: seven-tenths of human body weight was water, and most of the weight of food was water; that was why dehydrated food was so light.
    But water was far more critical to human life than food. Men could survive for weeks without food, but they would die in a matter of hours without water. And water was heavy.

    Ross smiled. "The average man consumes four to six liters a day, which is eight to thirteen pounds of weight. On a two-week expedition to a desert region, we'd have to provide two hundred pounds of water for each man. But we have a NASA water-recycling unit which purifies all excretions, including urine. It weighs six ounces. That's how we do it."

    Seeing his expression, she said: "It's not bad at all. Our purified water is cleaner than what you get from the tap."

    "I'll take your word for it."

  10. Re:Tell that to the guy by Captain+Splendid · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Tell that to the guy in this movie

    WTF? You should have linked to Dune, not frigging Waterworld! Now go hand in your geek card.

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  11. No, I'm New Here by New+Here · · Score: 5, Funny

    No, I'm New Here

  12. Re:HOWEVER by weber · · Score: 5, Funny

    "Wow, what a dedicated employee! No bathroom breaks, just sitting working endlessly at his computer with at tube from his pants to this mouth."