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Digital Photos Give Away a Camera's Make and Model

holy_calamity writes "Engineers at Polytechnic University Brooklyn have discovered that digital snaps shorn of any metadata still reveal the make and model of camera used to take them. It is possible to work backwards from the relationships of neighboring pixel values in a shot to identify the model-specific demosaicing algorithm that combines red, green, and blue pixels on the sensor into color image pixels. Forensics teams are already licking their chops."

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  1. stretch? by Speare · · Score: 5, Interesting

    As even the cellphones are producing 3 megapixel images now, very few people need to be passing full-resolution originals around. If you scale the image down to a screen-usable 1 megapixel image, there's not going to be a lot of bayer mosaicking information still available.

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    1. Re:stretch? by narcberry · · Score: 5, Funny

      Maybe so, but you still have the full size images on the camera. If someone were to get a hold of that they would be able to tell what camera took the images after a few weeks of intensive forensic study.

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    2. Re:stretch? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

      Joke------>
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    3. Re:stretch? by trum4n · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Feed your RAW images to photoshop, then hit NTSC color mode, then compress to jpeg. All their secret information is gone forever. Only idiots would let this work. and oh yea, those idiots didn't delete the Meta-Data anyway, cause they dont even know what it is.

    4. Re:stretch? by Tinik · · Score: 4, Insightful

      But then wouldn't the lack of demosaicing itself be the tell-tale sign that it was taken with a Foveon X3 sensor?

    5. Re:stretch? by cunniff · · Score: 5, Funny

      Eric: Horatio, there does not look like there is any mosaicing information in this image.
      Horatio: Eric, that means the image was taken with a camera with a Foveon X3 sensor.
      Cally: Zeroing in on professional camera stores... I have an address
      Horatio (menacingly): Eric, get on it.

      Where's my CSI: Miami royalty check?

    6. Re:stretch? by XSpud · · Score: 4, Funny

      Seriously if you carried a suspect image around on a different camera you could now call an expert witness to show that it was not taken on this camera - and since the only other people who had access to the camera were the police it must be a frame.

      Commonly called a "picture frame" I believe.

    7. Re:stretch? by jeffmeden · · Score: 5, Funny

      You forgot the obligatory

      Horatio: It looks like this photographer captured... himself
      [Horatio puts sunglasses on over existing sunglasses]
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  2. What about multiple cameras using the same sensor? by Chirs · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Quite often there are different manufacturers using the same sensor. Since this locks in the physical aspects of the sensor layout, I would expect the demosaicing algorithm to be basically identical across all these bodies.

  3. Even after image manipulation? by MR.Mic · · Score: 4, Interesting

    I wonder if this method still holds up after noise removal, or even something as simple as an image size reduction. Anyone more knowledgeable on the subject care to speak up?

    1. Re:Even after image manipulation? by morgan_greywolf · · Score: 4, Interesting

      I doubt it. I do a LOT of image processing, and I have to say that after color correction, noise removal, etc., I very much doubt that this technique would hold up.

    2. Re:Even after image manipulation? by jools33 · · Score: 5, Informative

      There are photodesk editors with experience who claim to be able to identify the camera model, the lens used and the post processing software used to produce the jpeg / tif file. This is possible due to various characteristics that are introduced at each stage in the digital photographic process. Giveaways for the camera body used are the base resolution, any colour casts in the image, iso performance, dynamic range. For instance many Canon DSLRs are criticised for producing muddy greens in their images - especially at higher ISOs as the dynamic range is pushed to extremes. Then you can usually work out the lens - by the obvious field of view first, then the flaws in the shot - various lenses from various manufacturers have different flaws. For instance the 70-200 f/2.8 from Nikon has characteristic vignetting that can often be noticed even after post processing, then other cheaper lenses give various defects to the image such as chromatic aberation. The flaws in the image give away the body and lens. Also the sensor used gives certain image characteristics that are fairly easy to spot even to the keen amateur photogs eye - for instance telling the difference between a full frame sensor and a smaller APS sized sensor - the full frame image typically has a much smoother more film like attributes with less digital artifacts. Also the same can be said for post processing. This software usually leaves various characteristics - that remain with the image, and this varies for each different software vendor.

      So this is all possible to a well trained human eye - don't see why it shouldn't be possible in software - but not sure of the real benefits of being able to identify this - as many photogs often leave the exif data - and that tells you everything.

  4. Raw images? by evanbd · · Score: 5, Insightful

    So, if I shoot in raw mode, and then postprocess in software to get a jpeg, the demosaicing signature should merely identify the software, right?

    Of course, I wouldn't be surprised to learn that the distortion uniquely identifies the lens used...

    1. Re:Raw images? by Facegarden · · Score: 4, Interesting

      ...Of course, I wouldn't be surprised to learn that the distortion uniquely identifies the lens used...

      Nah, not likely. Unless you knew exactly what the scene was supposed to look like, from that exact angle and everything (and even then it would likely be impossible), you just can't know what is a distortion from the lens and what is part of the scene. Unless, like, the scene happened to be a highly accurate checkerboard pattern. Then you can look and see what lines aren't quite straight and get some distortion information, but that would be tough.

      I know software can correct for lens distortion if it has a distortion profile for a certain lens (which is probably made by shooting a checkerboard type pattern...), but knowing to move every pixel to the left one is a lot easier than knowing if every pixel was moved to the left one by the lens, if that makes any sense.

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    2. Re:Raw images? by Speare · · Score: 4, Interesting

      You really don't need anything so clean and nice as a full-scene checkerboard, to calculate a lot of lens details. Two or three moderate-length manmade straight lines that are at different angles should be enough. Like two edges of a table, a tall building, etc. That should be enough to give you the general curvature coefficients, which in turn would be pretty close to giving the right field of view. I don't think you'd be able to tell Sigma from Canon from Nikkor from Leica from Tokina from Zeiss glass.

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    3. Re:Raw images? by Facegarden · · Score: 4, Funny

      Put another way, it's easy to put soda in your mouth and have yellow stuff come out of your underbits, but very difficult to do the reverse.

      I'm never drinking Mountain Dew again.

      And you're probably better off. I think Mountain Dew is the byproduct of people who never quite realized that you can't make soda from pee... Well, unless you're NASA I suppose...
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  5. So What? by Lord+Apathy · · Score: 4, Insightful

    So what if they can identify the make and model of camera. I own a D70. There are 300 billion d70 out there. Good luck on tracking a picture to my camera.

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    1. Re:So What? by canajin56 · · Score: 5, Funny

      They don't have to. All they have to do is say they used forensics just like on CSI, and it shows it was taken by the same kind of camera you own. Sure, you can say there are a lot of them out there so it proves nothing. But you know who else says that? The bad guys on CSI, and their smug, latte drinking lawyers. Always demanding warrants and to be released if they aren't being charged with anything! EVIL

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    2. Re:So What? by John+Hasler · · Score: 4, Insightful

      > Good luck on tracking a picture to my camera.

      That's not the purpose. Knowing the photo was taken with a D70 eliminates all the zillions of cameras out there that aren't D70s. It's like knowing that a bank robber is a 6' tall blue-eyed blond male.

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    3. Re:So What? by xIcemanx · · Score: 5, Interesting

      So what if they can identify the make and model of camera. I own a D70. There are 300 billion d70 out there. Good luck on tracking a picture to my camera.

      RTFA:

      While many people own the same camera models, Pollitt believes that this technique can still be used forensically. He says that because digital cameras have a shelf life of only 18 months, this can help to narrow down when and where it was sold. Just because it won't immediately narrow it down to a single suspect with perfect accuracy doesn't mean it won't be helpful in investigations.

    4. Re:So What? by taustin · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Forensically, it's as useful as saying "this bullet came out of this model pistol." Not conclusive by itself, but one piece of a larger puzzle.

      99% of criminal investigation is eliminating who didn't do it, and this can be useful for that.

    5. Re:So What? by cayenne8 · · Score: 4, Funny
      "It's like knowing that a bank robber is a 6' tall blue-eyed blond male."

      A bank robber with THAT description really would stand out.

      Hardly any of them look like that from what I see on TV.

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    6. Re:So What? by fuzzyfuzzyfungus · · Score: 4, Informative

      I hope the "there are 300 billion of them out there" defence works better for you than it did for certain owners of cheap, common watches.

    7. Re:So What? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Interesting

      The bad guys on CSI, and their smug, latte drinking lawyers. Always demanding warrants and to be released if they aren't being charged with anything! EVIL

      The only EVIL on CSI shows is the way the motherfucking cops use extortion.

      "You don't want to give up privileged information on this guy? Fine, we'll be back with a warrant. Of course, we may have to dismantle your office for a couple of weeks to do a thorough search. What does a couple of weeks mean to your business? You do understand, don't you, that when we seize (God, how those bastards love the word "seize") your computer, our clumsy techs might return it with some important files no longer readable? So sorry. ... Oh, yes, ma'am, that's the perp we were inquiring about. Thank you for your cooperation."

    8. Re:So What? by vux984 · · Score: 5, Insightful

      So what if they can identify the make and model of camera. I own a D70. There are 300 billion d70 out there. Good luck on tracking a picture to my camera.

      Its useful the same way knowing the car that raced away from the scene of the crime used a particular tire, with a particular wheelbase. Or that a bullet was fired from a particular make of gun.

      Neither will positively identify anyone, but if you were already a 'person of interest' in a long list of people peripherally related to a case that detail might put you on a MUCH shorter list if it comes up that you have that model. Plus its useful when they are asking a judge for a warrant. Judges really like specificity with warrants... A "We want to search his home and car for a Canon Powershot X"; he blogged here about buying a Canon Powershot X, he was caught on this surveillance tape leaving the scene carrying an indistinct object, the dimensions and shape of which are consistent with a Powershot X, and we know the photos in question were taken with a Canon Powershot X"... that's got a lot more weight than... "We want to search this guy for a digital camera, because a witness said he owns a camera, and he was caught on tape holding an indistinct smallish object which could be a camera, oh... and the photos we're interested were taken with a camera."

      A reasonable person would view the second as a complete fishing expedition, based on no evidence, practically everyone has a camera and he could have been holding anything on that tape. The first request is specific - the photos of interest were taken with that model, and there is reason to beleive the person HAS that particular model, and that he had it with him on the that tape. Sure it could be a coincidence, but a warrant for that particular camera if he has one to check it out, might not be unreasonable.

      Its also not unlikely that they can pair photos to a particular camera if they have both on hand due to micro-scrathes and other unique lens defects... the same way they can pair laser pritners to printed output.

    9. Re:So What? by mysidia · · Score: 5, Informative

      Yes... CSI is very realistic in that regard.

      Standard police tactic in real life, i'm sure.

      Use fear/insinuation to get whatever info needed.

      Except IRL it's not merely extortion, insinuated threats like that are all real.

  6. Re:What about multiple cameras using the same sens by fugu · · Score: 5, Interesting

    After the sensor takes the RAW data, the camera processes the image (some noise reduction, curves, and compression) to get a jpg. Since this conversion would vary between manufacturers (or even RAW software) I'd imagine that the process would leave behind similar "fingerprints."

  7. Re:Really... by afidel · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Film can be identified down to the batch, MUCH more unique than a highly quality controlled part like a CMOS sensor.

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  8. Oh my! by winkydink · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I better sell my Nikon D300. They'll be able to trace it back to me. Or one of the other gazillion people who also bought one. Hmm... on second thought...

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    1. Re:Oh my! by AgBullet · · Score: 5, Insightful

      I better sell my Nikon D300. They'll be able to trace it back to me. Or one of the other gazillion people who also bought one. Hmm... on second thought...

      you're missing the point. there usually are other factors in play in any investigation. having only the camera make to go by is useless, but not so if you've managed to narrow - through other criteria - your suspect list down to 10.

  9. Re:Meta data? by John+Hasler · · Score: 4, Insightful

    > Of course someone who is stripping the exif data will never resize the image and run
    > some sharpening over the image just to cover their traces, right?

    Some will, some won't. Criminals are notoriously careless and stupid.

    > Yep, this one was taken by a Canon Powershot A510 of which only 5.7 million were sold.
    > We also know that this particular model was either sold in North America, Japan, Europe,
    > Africa, Australia, South East Asia and South America. That should narrow it down.

    Yes. Of the 18 initial suspects only two own that camera. Concentrate your investigation on them.

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  10. Re:Killjoy by johnlcallaway · · Score: 4, Informative

    My wife and I have two point and shoot cameras, a Nikon and an Olympus. We also have a Pentax dSLR.

    Looking at the images at 100% scale and you can see a tremendous difference in the amount of noise in the backgrounds. That is mostly caused by the smaller size of the CCDs and the quality of the sensor itself. Plus, the higher end cameras have far better noise reduction software built in.

    Depth of field is EVERYTHING to taking pictures. By using a long lens and a large aperture, bars around zoo cages disappear, the annoying crowd behind the bride also disappears, or that person just standing behind your subject gets just the faintest blur so your eye is drawn to the subject. Or use a small aperture and everything is brought into crisp focus.

    Then there is being able to use higher quality optics. I recently used the Pentax camera to take some campfire scenes using a 50mm(film) lens set at 1.4f. I was able to take clear, handheld images around the campfire. Try that with a point and shoot.

    I'm not knock the PS cameras. I use them when I'm riding my motorcycle to get action shots of those I ride with. That would be impossible with a dSLR or SLR camera, they are just too big and bulky.

    But if someone wants to take high quality snapshots to share, nothing beats a dSLR. Pricey, yes. But well worth it for the serious photographer, be they professional or hobbyist.

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