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Microsoft Feared Mac Vs. Vista In '05
CWmike writes "Gregg Keizer sifted through many threads of e-mails released under the 'Vista Capable' lawsuit to dig up this jewel...More than a year before Windows Vista's release — and long before Apple started poking fun at the OS — Microsoft officials were already worried about comparisons between Mac OS X and Vista. An e-mail thread from October 2005 showed that an article in the Wall Street Journal by Walt Mossberg grabbed the attention of managers at Microsoft. In a column headlined What PC to Buy If You Are Planning On a Vista Upgrade, Mossberg alarmed one Windows manager who forwarded a bit from the column.... 'You won't have to worry about Vista if you buy one of Apple Computer's Macintosh computers, which don't run Windows,' Mossberg had written. 'Every mainstream consumer doing typical tasks should consider the Mac. Its operating system, called Tiger, is better and more secure than Windows XP, and already contains most of the key features promised for Vista.' Warrier added a comment of his own: 'A premium experience as defined by Walt = Apple. This is why we need to address [the column].'"
It's not fair to call vista a virus.
Viruses are some of the tiniest and most efficient pieces of code written.
I would have gotten hooked Linux if it wasn't for OS X. Terminal.app sitting in the Utilities folder is like a drug pusher. First it starts out with a little 'ls' and 'mv'. Then you learn to SSH and X11 forward. Then come the shell scripts and built in gcc.
Oh god, and then you discover screen and it's all over. You're hooked.
I'm now a CLI junkie. I get my fix from my debian rtorrent machine that gives me my movies and now I'm building a home automation center from NSLU2 and 1-Wire. My MacBook Pro starts Terminal.app on start.
Parents keep your kids away from Apple, they could be come CLI Junkies. Vista is the one true path to salvation.
"Better ingredients. Better OS. Papa Steve's."
Oh, yeah, it's not easy to pad these out to 120 characters.
CLITerminal.app Junkies.
So, Monsieur Trollaxor, you're saying they could become clit junkies?
=Smidge=
Is it just my observation, or is eldavojohn an idiot?
I will kill this Mossberg for you for ten million of your American dollars and a lifetime license for Windows XP.
echo -e 'global _start\n _start:\n mov eax, 2\n int 80h\n jmp _start' > a.asm; nasm a.asm -f elf; ld a.o -o a;
You haven't seen some viruses. I seem to remember, back in the dark ages of floppies, long before the internet, when 1.44 MB was all the space on a floppy and viruses were supposed to go unnoticed on one so they could spread, someone had written a 100K virus in Clipper. Or one of the similar DBase2-like databases. In an age of 512 _byte_ viruses, or where even complex and sophisticated ones were measured in single digit kilobytes, that was fucking huge. It's akin to having a 100 MB virus nowadays. In fact, it's akin to nowadays writing a virus in Java and distributing it together with a JDK.
So in all fairness, you can't generalize like that. Just because Vista is the most extreme case of a bloated and inefficient virus, doesn't mean there weren't other viruses that were only slightly less bloated and inefficient before ;)
A polar bear is a cartesian bear after a coordinate transform.
You might as well sell your sole to Richard Stall..erm Satan!!/p>
Why would Satan, or Stallman for that matter, do with one of his shoes??
People need to be reminded of the monopolistic software prison they live in. They don't have to use Windows, and there is better software out there.
If you can leave any time you like, it's not a prison. It's just a really shitty hotel.
Information wants to be anthropomorphized.
When my Mother got a new computer, it came with Vista and I had to keep telling her there was nothing to fear from a new operating system but I think my message was somewhat undermined by the fact I kept swearing and screaming at the computer while I was setting it up.
Well, it has never been successfully tested.
Shouldn't this have been modded Funny instead of Insightful?
Mac: Hi, I'm a Mac
Bill Gates: And I'm a PC
Mac: WHOA, Bill Gates! What are you doing on a Mac commercial?
Bill: To remind people that Microsoft is more than Windows. We've been writing software for the Mac since before there was a Mac. The same Office suite that PC's use is available to Mac Users
Mac: Actually, Bill, it's better.
Bill: [blushes] Thanks. And with Boot Camp and virtualization, you can run Windows if you have to.
Mac: Or want to. I think Vista ROCKS on a Mac.
Bill: That's all. Microsoft makes software and operating systems... for PCs AND Macs.
Mac: So, we can work together.
Bill: Yes. Yes, we can. [shakes hands] Nice shoes...[Exit, Stage right]
[Mac stands stunned]
[Enter PC, eating a churro]
PC: You're not going to believe this. I just met Jerry Seinfeld in the hallway.
[Mac stands stunned]
PC: What? What'd I miss?
[Fade to iMac running Office 2008 and Parallels with Vista] and new 'Yes, WE can' logo
Or "Virii" as any `1337 h@x0r will confirm.
Wow, sent an e-mail as suggested when clicking on "use classic" banner, and got a fast response that addressed my msg
Some are. The virus world has gone downhill a lot though. Why, many of them are written in Visual Basic!
From someone who has never used Vista. I've had it installed for years, it's every bit as stable as XP, and while it's clearly somewhat more "expensive" (CPU+Memory), on any kind of modern hardware it is irrelevant.
It's also clearly more secure than XP. In all cases where I've installed it for friends and family, it has noticeably reduced the amount of cruft that gets installed.
Great! All we need now is for Steve Ballmer to go into a Congressional subcommittee hearing with his tin cup out asking for money . . . only to start throwing chairs at the subcommittee chairs for not getting what he wants!
I did, once, and now I have to sit in this room staring at the blinkenlichten.
Even though we are all supposedly geeks, it might help if you gave grammar lessons in English instead of regex.
It's fear of a Mac planet.
Only way to watch videos in bed/couch.
Judging by that comment and your nick, I'll wager you don't have a girlfriend.
Trolling is a art,
no, you can check out any time you like, but you can never leave.
Saying your "phone ran out of batteries" is like saying your "car ran out of gas tanks".
MAC = Macintosh, Mandatory Access Control, Mandatory Access Control, Message Authentication Code, ad infinitum (almost)
Most things only have meaning in their context. "MAC" is one of the worst cases.
thank you for proving my point.
This is my sig. There are many like it but this one is mine.
Vista Ultimate was what, like Ã600 retail when it first came out?
No. The best version of Vista cost $129 from the beginning.
Dewey, what part of this looks like authorities should be involved?
Somewhere out there, there's a girl for him, and she's converting his screen name to decimal right now...
There's a plaice for everything.
"I've got more toys than Teruhisa Kitahara."
This is because your SATA drive is supposed to take a nap now and then, for thermal reasons. This was an XP bug they fixed in Vista. Your network card needs frequent naps too obviously. Other than that, and video, Vista just screams - when it's not swapping.
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