Slashdot Mirror


Researchers Getting the Lead Out of Electronics

alphadogg writes "Researchers at the University of Maryland say they have discovered a material to replace lead, a potential environmental hazard, in electronics products. The material, bismuth samarium ferrite (BSFO), was found by researchers in the university's A. James Clark School of Engineering. It can be used in products such as biomedical imaging devices and inkjet printers, and if implemented commercially could keep lead out of landfills and the ecosystem, they say. While manufacturers have developed replacements for lead in many products, until now no commercial replacement existed for lead zirconate titanate (PZT) — the material of choice for transducers, actuators, sensors and microelectromechanical systems used in common electronic devices, the university says."

39 of 178 comments (clear)

  1. What about radiation shielding? by CRCulver · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Could this new metal shield against cosmic rays as well as lead? I'm reminded of the scene in Kim Stanley Robinson's Red Mars where the inhabitants of a spacecraft have to hold out against an incoming solar flare and find their shielding woefully insufficient. A material that could block rays yet be lightweight and less toxic would no doubt be a boon to the space industry.

    1. Re:What about radiation shielding? by mrmeval · · Score: 2, Informative

      Water, boron gas, aluminum, etc you tailor it like Chobham armor in layers and with other tricks. You don't really want lead because of the density it doesn't matter much in space unless you're aiming 60 kilotons of it at DC.

      We WILL become more green all this 'waste' is becoming the new gold. Help develop efficient technologies to evacuate landfills of the wealth in them and be the next Bill Grates.

      --
      I'd go on a Vegan diet but the delivery time from Vega is too long. --brownkitty
    2. Re:What about radiation shielding? by girlintraining · · Score: 3, Interesting

      New metal -- wait, what? I think you meant new alloy. And no, this new material shouldn't be any good for shielding; If anything, it would degrade more quickly in a radiation-rich environment than any of its base metals because of the oxygen. But I am not a chemist -- I'm just taking an educated guess here.

      --
      #fuckbeta #iamslashdot #dicemustdie
    3. Re:What about radiation shielding? by networkBoy · · Score: 2, Informative

      I was under the impression that a materials ability to block radiation was (more or less) proportional to it's density. Lead being the densest cheap metal making it ideal. while the mass may not be a problem once in space, it sure is a heck of a penalty in lift weight to get it there though.
      -nB

      --
      whois gawk date unzip strip find touch finger mount join nice man top fsck grep eject more yes exit umount sleep dump
    4. Re:What about radiation shielding? by peragrin · · Score: 3, Funny

      So we can't throw 60 tons of lead at DC because the DC politicians are even more dense?

      Sorry offtopic, but we are talking about dense things.

      --
      i thought once I was found, but it was only a dream.
    5. Re:What about radiation shielding? by Cyberax · · Score: 5, Informative

      Lead is NOT a good shield against cosmic rays. Fast charged particles cause a strong bremsstrahlung (braking radiation) in lead. That's also how X-Rays machines work - fast electrons are slammed into targets made of lead or tungsten.

      High-density polyethylene, water or paraffin work much better for cosmic rays shielding.

      Now, lead is great against gamma-rays. But they are not the principal danger of cosmic rays.

    6. Re:What about radiation shielding? by DirtySouthAfrican · · Score: 4, Informative

      It's all about cross section, which roughly depends on the incoming particle's energy being close to the energy of a bound state in the atoms of the material that is to absorb the radiation. The density contributes an overall factor to the calculation. Also, led is nasty when charged particles are involved (electrons, probably protons), because they will rapidly decelerate and create brehmstrahlung, so you've traded a charged particle which is easy to deflect with an X ray, which is not easy to reflect. My wife uses plexiglass shields in her lab for this reason, because it gracefully absorbs beta radiation.

    7. Re:What about radiation shielding? by BluBrick · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Actually, extra mass is a problem even once it is in space. Manoeuvring all that extra mass requires greater amounts of energy, which is often somewhat in short supply.

      --
      Ahh - My eye!
      The doctor said I'm not supposed to get Slashdot in it!
    8. Re:What about radiation shielding? by Miseph · · Score: 5, Funny

      Hey, no fair actually knowing how physics work! Here we are, all sci-FI about things, and you barge in with just sci... you must think you're sooooooo much better than the rest of us don't you?

      Good day sir, I say good day.

      --
      Try not to take me more seriously than I take myself.
    9. Re:What about radiation shielding? by Quantos · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Especially since changing the momentum of that mass requires fuel, lots of it - and that adds to the mass. At some point it becomes a vicious cycle, at least until a far more efficient propulsion system is put into place.

      --
      Some people are only alive because it's against the law for me to hunt them down and kill them.
    10. Re:What about radiation shielding? by Cyberax · · Score: 2, Informative

      You can use pretty much any heavy metal as a target.

      Copper is used because it has good thermal conductivity and high melting point - only about 1% of energy is converted into x-rays, most of it is dissipated as heat.

    11. Re:What about radiation shielding? by default+luser · · Score: 2, Informative

      Absolutely, it is. You can use a higher voltage and a process with larger feature sizes to make your electronics more resistent to a bit flip. The larger feature size and voltage means it takes more energy to flip a particular transistor, at the cost of larger circuits and more power consumed.

      You have to add in some buffers to handle the sudden power spikes from particles, so your transistors themselves are safe from damage. Sure, you could still have radiation error events, but they're much less probable with the above setup. MUCH cheaper than lifting enough lead to shield the whole damn circuit board.

      --

      Man is the animal that laughs.
      And occasionally whores for Karma.

  2. Toxicity? by saleenS281 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    So... have they actually tested this on humans to verify it's non-toxic? That's great that we're not using lead, but if this is just as bad for humans when it hits our water supply, what exactly is the benefit? Swapping one (cheap) poison for another (expensive) one?

    1. Re:Toxicity? by fuzzyfuzzyfungus · · Score: 4, Informative

      Toxicology can be full of (un)pleasant surprises; but the list of elements involved is promising. Bismuth is a widely accepted nontoxic substitute for lead in applications where similar mechanical properties are needed, and is a component of certain medicines. Iron is generally unproblematic. I'm not sure about Samarium, though our wikipedia overlords say "low to moderate toxicity". Since one of its isotopes has internal medical applications, there are probably some toxicological data out there.

      We'll need to test the compound itself, to be sure; but it probably beats lead.

    2. Re:Toxicity? by sillybilly · · Score: 3, Insightful

      As long as the product performs somewhere near as well as the old stuff, and it's patentable, then there is money to be made. We just have to find sufficient fault with the old stuff, and bad mouth it enough to start making money. Wikipedia says that as with the other lanthanides, samarium compounds are of low to moderate toxicity, although their toxicity has not been investigated in detail. An MSDS sheet where you can put toxicity N/A, no data available sounds better than one where you know it's toxic, because at least with an unknown there is a chance that it's not toxic. There is money to be made with the patent, and money saved by not having regulations to deal with. Regulations regulate know toxic materials, not unknowns.

    3. Re:Toxicity? by worthawholebean · · Score: 4, Interesting

      Pepto-Bismol is Bismuth salicylate if I remember correctly.

    4. Re:Toxicity? by hoytak · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Inferring a compound's behavior from the individual elements is error-prone. Carbon is great and nitrogen is great, but CN, well, not so much. On the other hand, this is more true with organic compounds (containing carbon).

      --
      Does having a witty signature really indicate normality?
    5. Re:Toxicity? by fuzzyfuzzyfungus · · Score: 3, Informative

      Certainly true, particularly with clever organic stuff. On the plus side, it can at least give you an idea of whether the compound can be rendered safe by incineration, decay, or being metabolized by the right organisms. Particularly with the interest in incineration or plasma pyrolysis for waste disposal, I'd consider a toxic compound made of harmless elements to be a win over a toxic compound made of toxic elements(and, in some circumstances, even a harmless compound made of toxic elements). In the end, we'll just have to feed a bunch of this stuff to bunnies and fuzzy puppies, I suppose.

    6. Re:Toxicity? by Tubal-Cain · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Bismuth is a widely accepted nontoxic substitute for lead...

      So? Clorine and Sodium are two very toxic supstances, but NaCl isn't. See also: Thinkgeek
      Properties of compounds often bear very little relation to their constituent parts.

  3. Lead solder replacement by Krishnoid · · Score: 2, Insightful

    I haven't picked up a soldering iron in a while, but I've heard that non-lead solder has a lot more structural problems than lead solder. Will this stuff have related problems?

    1. Re:Lead solder replacement by Majik+Sheff · · Score: 5, Interesting

      As a technician, RoHS is the bane of my existence. It doesn't flow right, it doesn't wet right, and it doesn't cool right.

      Because RoHS solder is not a true eutectic alloy it tends to separate when thermal conditions aren't precisely right. As a consequence, many manufacturers had huge runs of products that stayed soldered just long enough to get out the door and frequently out of warranty.

      I hope someone comes up with a better substitute soon because I am sick and tired of cracked solder, cracked solder, and cracked solder.

      --
      Women are like electronics: you don't know how damaged they are until you try to turn them on.
    2. Re:Lead solder replacement by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

      You've got to love an environmental measure that ensures a significantly higher failure rate in electronic devices, meaning more electronics to trash -- electronics containing materials much more hazardous than lead. Sheer genius.

      People in first world countries have so little to worry about in terms of health issues that they strain to find bogeymen, and lead has become one of the things filling that role.

      I had one couple fly up from Texas just to see my house in Seattle, make an offer on it, and later rescind the offer because the house was old enough that it existed when lead paint was sometimes used. There was no specific reason to believe the paint was lead-based, and much of the house was wall-papered. The mom was terrified of the possibility of lead and her email withdrawing the offer was filled with heartbreak because they really adored the place; they ended up getting a recent townhome in a much less desirable location. One twist: they knew from the beginning that the attic had loose-fill vermiculite that had a decent chance of containing asbestos, and they had no problems with that.

    3. Re:Lead solder replacement by servognome · · Score: 4, Informative

      I haven't picked up a soldering iron in a while, but I've heard that non-lead solder has a lot more structural problems than lead solder. Will this stuff have related problems?

      As an engineer working on lead-free solder development for electronics, the problems that can arise are specific to the application. The industry has developed a number of different alloys that perform under specific conditions. Instead of just choosing a tin-lead solder that works pretty much everywhere, developers need to understand the types of reliability stresses their product will see and choose the best alloy to meet those requirements. For example lead-free solders that work well in a thermal cycling environment tend to not perform as well under shock conditions. From an assembly side of things, a lot of the problems arise from using old SnPb equipment and materials for soldering joints using leadfree solders. Different reflow temperatures, wetting characteristics, and oxides, means that you just can't use the same old eutectic flux and soldering iron and expect the same quality of results.

      Lead-free solders aren't necessarily problematic, they just require a little more understanding to properly use.

      --
      D6 63 0D 70 89 81 BB 8E 7B 7C 5F 5D 54 EA AB 73
    4. Re:Lead solder replacement by trip11 · · Score: 2, Interesting
      Actually he's not completely wrong. When you say an object is at a given tempature, you are refering to the average tempature of the whole object. Individual atoms can be moving faster/slower than the average so really there is a whole spectrum of tempatures (this is very well known for an ideal gas: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MaxwellBoltzmann_distribution/ )

      While the same formulas won't hold for a metal, the same ideas will be true. Another example. When you sweat, your skin is cooled by the fact the water is vaporizing (evaporating) off of your skin. But of course your skin is far from 100C, however some of the water will still vaporize.

      I don't know the specifics for lead, but there will still be some fraction of the lead that will vaporize off at well below 2000 degrees. If that fraction is big or so small that it doesn't matter is another point all together.

    5. Re:Lead solder replacement by servognome · · Score: 2, Informative

      As a technician, RoHS is the bane of my existence. It doesn't flow right, it doesn't wet right, and it doesn't cool right.
      Because RoHS solder is not a true eutectic alloy it tends to separate when thermal conditions aren't precisely right. As a consequence, many manufacturers had huge runs of products that stayed soldered just long enough to get out the door and frequently out of warranty.

      The problem is many companies think you just change the alloy to lead free, turn the ovens on a little hotter and everything is fine.
      When I started work on lead free process development 8 years ago, it became quickly evident that lead free solders require much more than a process "tweak" to the old eutectic systems. Every aspect basically needs to be redeveloped - as you said lead free solder doesn't behave the same.

      At the most basic level, instead of 1 tin-lead eutectic alloy, there are a series of different lead-free alloy replacements that you choose from depending on your application and reliability requirements. From there you need new fluxes(to deal with different oxides), equipment (improve accuracy because of less self-alignment and higher temps), and procedures (to make the changes work correctly), all specifically optimized to the alloy and application you are working on.

      Lead-free isn't as easy as leaded solders, but if you've done your due diligence in developing the process correctly it really isn't that bad.

      --
      D6 63 0D 70 89 81 BB 8E 7B 7C 5F 5D 54 EA AB 73
  4. Re:But...but... by MiKM · · Score: 4, Informative
  5. Reality check... by girlintraining · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Lead: Found in damn near every kind of mining ore. Very common.
    Bismuth: 2x more abundant than gold. Not considered economical to mine for it; Usually had as a byproduct.

    So sure, if you want your production costs to go up up and away, killing your competitive edge, use the eco-friendly BiFeO3. Everyone else, keep pushing recycling and consumer awareness. -_- Oh -- and the icing on the cake? Guess who produces most of the world's bismuth? China, the country best known for producing lead-laden products of much doom.

    --
    #fuckbeta #iamslashdot #dicemustdie
    1. Re:Reality check... by girlintraining · · Score: 4, Funny

      If your toddler is licking mining ore I think your first court date will be with child protection services, not the manufacturer.

      --
      #fuckbeta #iamslashdot #dicemustdie
  6. Way Too Late by svnt · · Score: 2, Informative

    They may pick up some stragglers that are totally dependent on PZT, but in European consumer electronics, components containing significant PZT have been practically useless since 2006. Europe is not what I would call a small market - as a result, components everywhere are designed to meet the same requirements, meaning these components have suffered from declining demand and/or been removed from company plans.

    "Products that use the new compound could hit the market in about five years, according to the university, after large-scale testing takes place, industry awareness and demand happens, and a method for mass production is created."

    Given that RoHS has already had a staggering impact on the electronics industry, I don't see "maybe 2013, if people figure out that they want this material, and if we can actually mass-produce it" as too reassuring. I'm sure not designing anything in the hopes that a PZT replacement will hit the market sometime next decade.

    Maybe if you're in ultrasonics this is big news?

  7. More reliable than tin? by kimvette · · Score: 5, Insightful

    While it's good that they're getting lead out of toys, etc. what about computers, televisions, and other devices/appliances which are generally not regarded as disposable? Is this new solder going to be more reliable than tin, which is notorious for whisker and dendrite formation, which wreaks havoc with reliability?

    Given that you're on /. I'd assume that you know what tin whiskers and dendrites are, but in case you're not here is a refresher:

    http://www.siliconfareast.com/whiskers.htm

    You can see where this is a problem. And, although it's been discovered that matte tin surfaces and good quality control can reduce the likelihood of whisker formation, what about repairs and installation/reinstallation of components on a mainboard? Replacing integral components (capacitors, sockets, etc.) require high heat, which is sufficient to change the crystalline structure and introduce new stress points for whiskers to "grow," and flexing of the main board from installation of peripherals, connecting devices to sockets, and simple heat/cold cycling will be enough to introduce stress points even in properly-formed, properly-plated components, creating points where whisker formation is more likely.

    Yes, protect the environment, but since more and more electronics are being recycled rather than being dumped in landfills, isn't lead in electronics a non-issue anyhow? I mean, in most localities you're not supposed to chuck monitors and devices containing printed circuit boards in the trash.

    --
    The Christian Right is Neither (Christian nor right). See: Matthew 23, Matthew 25, Ezekiel 16:48-50
  8. Re:But...but... by the_humeister · · Score: 3, Informative

    From the same wikipedia article that was linked to (it's even in the first paragragh!):

    It is generally considered to be the last naturally occurring stable, non-radioactive element on the periodic table, although it is actually slightly radioactive, with an extremely long half-life.

  9. $130 / 100g by epine · · Score: 3, Funny

    A quick search came up with one site listing the cost of Samarium as $130 per 100g. I'm sure that's cost effective for medical imaging equipment. And I had never realized this, but our local landfill is positively brimming with discarded medical scanning equipment. I might try to scavenge some of this, but all the discarded MRI machines are clumped together by some unseen force.

    1. Re:$130 / 100g by Chris+Pimlott · · Score: 4, Informative

      And I had never realized this, but our local landfill is positively brimming with discarded medical scanning equipment. I might try to scavenge some of this, but all the discarded MRI machines are clumped together by some unseen force.

      Might want to reconsider that.

  10. Misleading title... by jamiek · · Score: 3, Informative

    FTFA, The researchers have found a replacement for Lead zirconate titanate not LEAD. PZT is a piezoelectric material that contains lead and is used to make actuators and transducers in microelectronics industry. The article itself is pretty poor describing piezoelectric materials as a "switch", so perhaps it is not the fault of the readers for thinking this was a replacement for lead based solders.

  11. Why? by Detritus · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I've never seen a justification for the huge amount of money that's been spent on removing lead from electronics. Yes, the stuff can be toxic if ingested in sufficient quantities. No, it isn't going to leap out of your old TV set and perform unnatural acts on your dog. Tin-lead solder has been used for many decades. It's cheap and it works. I can understand why lead was removed from paint and gasoline. It was creating real problems when used in those products. Why, other than catering to the irrational and unfounded fears of the public, are we removing it from electronics?

    --
    Mea navis aericumbens anguillis abundat
    1. Re:Why? by BlueStrat · · Score: 3, Interesting

      Why, other than catering to the irrational and unfounded fears of the public, are we removing it from electronics?

      Isn't that pretty much a politicians' job description these days?

      The environmental lobbies have already pushed through enough regulations to put many U.S. industries out of business and left consumers with no choice but to purchase much more shoddy products manufactured with far less environmental controls from foreign sources. But, I guess that's okay. It's over there, right? It's not like pollution in a foreign country affects us.

      Oh, wait..

      Vacuum tubes come to mind as a good example. I currently design, build, and service vacuum tube musical instrument amplifiers. The tubes being made in China, Russia, and other countries in eastern Europe are crappy-sounding, unreliable, and vary wildly in specs from production-run to production-run, and even within a single run. It's so bad that old-production tubes that have sat in some dusty warehouse for 2 or 3 decades or more sell for unbelievably-high prices.

      USD$400 for a pair of RCA 6L6's!?!? That's *if* you can find them somewhere?

      http://www.kcanostubes.com/products/106/NOS-RCA-6L6GC-Blackplate-Matched-Pairs.htm

      That's just nuts! The *whole amplifier* these things came in didn't cost that much new at the time!

      I'm also going to keep on using regular 60/40 rosin-core solder in my builds and repairs until and unless they develop a true replacement that doesn't have the 'tin whisker' and other problems associated with current RoHS-compliant solders. If they outlaw it, I guess I'll be an outlaw.

      I can see a future jailhouse conversation:

      "What did they get ya for man?"

      "Possession and distribution."

      "Meth? Crack? Heroin?"

      "Nah, 60/40 solder."

      "Stay away from me, man!"

      Cheers!

      Strat

      --
      Progressivism (aka US 'Liberalism'): Ideas so good they need a police/surveillance-state to enforce.
  12. No, it replaces lead zirconate titanate by dtmos · · Score: 3, Informative

    The researchers haven't come up with "a material to replace lead." They've come up with a material to replace lead zirconate titanate, a.k.a. PZT, a piezoelectric and ferroelectric material with many uses in electronics. Because it has an extremely large piezoelectric constant (meaning that it produces a large voltage under little mechanical stress) and is cheap to produce, it is the ceramic frequently used in transducers, sensors, and resonators. The thing on your motherboard that beeps on boot is very likely made of PZT.

    PZT is not, repeat not, used in solder. Wikipedia is one of your many friends.

    Finding a ceramic with similar properties, but without the lead, has been a difficult problem for materials scientists, and the UM researchers say they have finally come up with a viable candidate.

  13. Duh..... by IHC+Navistar · · Score: 3, Funny

    ".....could keep lead out of landfills and the ecosystem, they say."

    -Because everybody knows lead isn't from the environment.

    --
    Knowing Google's lust for data collection, the Soviet Union is still alive and well inside the psyche of Sergey Brin....
  14. Wait a Minute by Nom+du+Keyboard · · Score: 2, Insightful

    ...could keep lead out of landfills and the ecosystem.

    Wait moment. Isn't lead already in the ecosystem? Don't we dig it out of the ground because it's already there in the ground?

    --
    "It's the height of ridiculousness to say for those 9 lines you get hundreds of millions."