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Surgeons Weld Wounds Shut With Surgical Laser

Ruach writes "The promise of medical lasers goes beyond clean incisions and eye surgery: Many believe that lasers should be used not just to create wounds but to mend them too. Abraham Katzir, a physicist at Tel Aviv University, has a system that may just do the trick and is proving successful in its first human trials."

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  1. So Trek's closing-wounds-with-beams thing is real? by Michael_gr · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Now that is a surprise. That always struck me as funny, the way they just beamed at some wound and it closed.

  2. The whole point. by Surreal+Puppet · · Score: 3, Interesting

    The whole point of this new method is that you can cauterize a wound without charring the flesh, instead just melting it. The optimal temperature for this is, apparently, 60-70 deg. C., and this is maintained using feedback from an infrared sensor on the "soldering pen". They apparently also use a water soluble protein as "solder". The scars on in the TFA pictures look real nice. Wonder if the wound will hurt more or less than a conventionally sealed wound?

  3. Re:The real news by davester666 · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Cuz that's what medics want to carry. A large battery pack with a small laser, while humping a guy back to the aid station. Or maybe a gas generator.

    Hell, it could be dual use. As a weapon, it can blind enemy combatants or slice open their skin, but when the enemy gets closer, you bend over a wounded comrade and claim to be a medic, and that it's your laser scalpel/magical healing device.

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  4. Re:Another Technological Advance From Israel by HateBreeder · · Score: 2, Interesting

    That's actually a common misconception.

    US foreign aid to Israel is limited to commodities purchased back from US companies: Israel cannot spend that money in any other way.

    The money goes back to US companies like Boeing or Lockheed martin when Israel purchases fighter jets.

    You can rest assured, that university research projects in Israel don't see a dime from US tax payer money. (Unless it's some US D.O.D joint effort)

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  5. Re:Another Technological Advance From Israel by HateBreeder · · Score: 2, Interesting

    The foreign aid to Israel is given out since the US recognizes the strategic importance of Israel in the middle east - it is vital to promote US interests in the area.

    And yes, the game is played both ways. Both US and Israel gain from the foreign aid - i just don't want people to think that the US is spending money in Israel without gaining anything from it. The US is not a philanthropic organization and Joe six pack is definitely not funding the Jews because they tricked him into it.

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  6. Re:The real news by moteyalpha · · Score: 4, Interesting

    You are right on that. My sister was doing laser cellular reconstructive surgery ( Transoral Laser Microsurgery ) 12 years ago with a Neodymium Yttrium Arsenic Garnet ( Nd YAG ) 100 watt continuous laser. Here is a link to that laser created in 1964. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nd-YAG_laser. I would have RTFA, but it was slashdotted already. I still think if a shark did it, that would be news.

  7. Re:The real news by fabs64 · · Score: 2, Interesting

    yerch, and here come the isolationist libertarians, trotting out their ideology as if they've realised some perfect universal order that no one else gets.

    First, the word "evolution" is a very bad one to use as a justification, but I'll give you the benefit of the doubt and assume you meant something more akin to "progress".

    The illusion, that we can do without conflicts (which sometimes end in wars), comes from the illusion that there is one global truth, when in reality, everything is relative.

    And just under it

    What we must realize, is that, no matter how disgusting and strange the views of others look to us ... we have no right so tell them what to do.

    So "all opinions are relative and there is no universal truth" and that statement is a universal truth that must be acknowledged and accepted.

    Cultural relativity can only extend so far, and a group where it is "accepted to rape everybody you see, and then eat him" is far beyond that if for no other reason than the passive acceptance of such practices is as much a choice and changes your own group in the same way as choosing to combat those practices would.

    Diverse groups may be more prone to argue within themselves, but they are less subject to the extreme conflict that arises between polar opposites in the form of states.

    Give me the snarky '08 election over the neverending conflict faced by Israel, the american civil war over the second world war, the war for independence over the crusades.

  8. Re:The real news by Thiez · · Score: 3, Interesting

    > Hmm... conflict is an essential part of evolution.

    Maybe, but war isn't. Many bacteria and plants and herbivores happily live their lives without ever being at risk of being killed by their own kind. A 'war' against others of your kind is something very few species do (I guess ants can be considered an exception).
    Let's not use 'evolution' as an excuse for war. Even if war was part of evolution, the whole thing that defines us humans is that we can mostly ignore what would happen in nature.

    > The illusion, that we can do without conflicts (which sometimes end in wars), comes from the illusion that there is one global truth, when in reality, everything is relative.

    If we have two countries whose citizens have exactly the same culture and beliefs about the world, when country A wants something from country B and country B won't give that thing to A, there is a conflict. So even with a 'global truth' people will have conflicting interests.
    Personally I believe there is such a thing as a universal truth, and science is creating increasingly acurate theories about this truth. The problem is that many people (myself included) have misconceptions about this truth, and incomplete knowledge, and, most importantly, consider their culture to be part of this truth.

    > What we must realize, is that, no matter how disgusting and strange the views of others look to us (if you want an example, think of a group, where it is generally accepted to rape everybody you see, and then eat him), as long as they do not hurt anyone (eating someone of that group, who thinks that way too, is not hurting someone), we have no right so tell them what to do.

    Fair enough, but in this particular example it might be best to inform these people about 'our' culture so they can make a choice. And what about a culture that abuses a particular group (let's say, women) and believes that anyone who tries to leave their culture must be tortured and killed? Or a culture wherein it is not allowed to learn about other cultures?

    > That's why I oppose something like big countries and world governments: Because, if you disagree, there is no place you could go to anymore.

    I don't see the problem with big countries, if many, many people have the same culture, they should be able to live in one (big) country. I agree a world government would suck, though. Even when it had very little power over its people, governments tend to slowly take more and more power without giving it back.

    > Before I realized this, I thought, a world government where everything is peaceful, would be an ideal. In theory: Yes. In reality, there is no such thing, as long as there is evolution.

    Stop the evolution thing, please. Evolution is never a cause of things, it is the result.

    > Oh, and if we must have a world government, then at least I want to be the leader. ;)

    My vote goes to cowboyneal!

  9. 65 Celcius melting point of skin? by ZeroExistenZ · · Score: 3, Interesting

    they had to determine the optimal temperature at which flesh melts but can still heal (about 65 degrees Celsius)

    Firstly, 65C, isn't that the just above the heat of a warm bath, and doesn't a sauna reach up to 110C ? Second, since when does a skin melt?

    Who can give some more indepth information about this?

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  10. Misuse of closing-wounds-with-beams thing by troll8901 · · Score: 2, Interesting

    "Imagine that sort of device in the hands of your unscrupulous friends. They would sneak up behind you and seal your ass shut as a practical joke. The devices would be sold in novelty stores instead of medical outlets."

    - Why real life will never be like star trek, The Dilbert Future, by Scott Adams

    1. Re:Misuse of closing-wounds-with-beams thing by giantweevil · · Score: 1, Interesting

      Luckily, you could just remove the solder and open your ass.

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  11. Re:So Trek's closing-wounds-with-beams thing is re by Robocoastie · · Score: 2, Interesting

    hmm isn't that a modern way of the old heat a knife over a fire then burn the wound closed with the side of it like on movies?

  12. Re:So Trek's closing-wounds-with-beams thing is re by SpiderClan · · Score: 2, Interesting

    I would imagine it's much less painful and leaves less of a scar.

  13. Re:So Trek's closing-wounds-with-beams thing is re by Bearhouse · · Score: 2, Interesting

    hmm isn't that a modern way of the old heat a knife over a fire then burn the wound closed with the side of it like on movies?

    I think the modern version of that would be using superglue. Both effective but fairly brutal & 'last resort'.

  14. Re:The real news by Attila+Dimedici · · Score: 2, Interesting

    The important thing is that we can actually figure out how to deploy this laser technology on the battlefield without the cooperation of those who desire to use violence to satisfy their desires. How do you propose getting those who desire violence to cooperate in ending wars?

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  15. Re:So Trek's closing-wounds-with-beams thing is re by demonlapin · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Actually, superglue is quite effective at closing skin (though large wounds still need to have the deep layers closed). The monomers used are designed not to produce as much heat during curing as the home-use ones, but they're still cyanoacrylate adhesives.

  16. Good thing they mentioned the inventor by synthespian · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Gladly, they mentioned the inventor Abraham Katzir (a physicist at Tel Aviv University).

    All too often, it''s the surgeon who gets all the credit when, in fact, all this wonderful medical technology is created by engineers and whole team - a lot more people than the guys who like to pose as heroes.

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