Making BitTorrent Clients Prioritize By Geography?

Daengbo writes "While I live in S.Korea and have virtually unlimited bandwidth in and out of the country, not all my Asian friends are so lucky. Many of the SE Asian and African countries have small international pipes. Even when a user has a high-speed local connection, downloads from abroad will trickle in. Bittorrent clients apparently don't prioritize other users on the same ISP or at least in the same country. Why is that? Is it difficult to manage? If I were to write a plug-in for, say, Deluge, what hurdles would I be likely to come across? If this functionality is available in other clients or through plug-ins, please chime in."

Comments

"Prioritizing"

[zombietangelo]

IPs could, theoretically, be prioritized based on a database of known general geographies associated with certain digits. Just remember - prioritizing is one thing, but it's a slippery slope to peer exclusion.

uTorrent

[SpitfireSMS]

uTorrent has a feature called local peer discovery that does that exactly. It was even able to discover other people at my university sharing the files.

Re:uTorrent

[X0563511]

rtorrent

Re:uTorrent

[Freultwah]

I run rtorrent in a detached screen session on a headless FreeBSD machine tucked away in the closet. I add torrent files to it just by dropping them into rtorrent's watch folder, everything else (starting, stopping, throttle management for off hours) is taken care of automatically. I do not have to have my laptop on or listen to the desktop whine all the time. Plus, rtorrent is blazing fast AND platform agnostic.

It is also accessible in many ways, ssh being the most obvious, but there are also many GUIs available, with which you can manage torrents from afar. I like it how it is possible to add a torrent to the queue, then take a 3 hour train ride home and find it's all done for you. Magic. So, yes, a torrent client that is run in a terminal can be a Very Good Thing for those who can set it up and use it the way it was meant to be. (And I am pretty sure it was meant to be used that way.)

Ono

[pythonax]

There is a plugin for Vuze (formerly Azureus) called Ono which does exactly that. Not sure what the problems they ran into, but as it is a college project I am sure they would be willing to discuss some of it with you. http://www.aqualab.cs.northwestern.edu/projects/Ono.html

For Vuze, there's Ono and P4P

[chrysrobyn]

For Vuze, formerly Azureus, there are Ono and P4P, which should do what you're looking for, although for different reasons. Unfortunately, they both rely on people in your region being interested in the same torrents you are, while P4P additionally benefits from an iTracker, an ISP provided tracker that's topology aware (they did some work to prioritize based on ping latency, using that as a distance estimate, but I don't know if it's a fallback mechanism). Due to the iTracker infrastructure and possibly conflicting supporters, there are some privacy concerns.

Re:Stop It

[Sparr0]

Prioritize by network topology is a better way to put it, that just happens to coincide with physical AND political geography in many cases. In the case where you can get 10Mb over a 10-hop connection, or 8Mb over a 3-hop connection, which do you pick? If you pick the latter, there is a good chance that two other users can utilize the other 70% of that 10-hop connection, making total throughput (theoretically) 24Mb.

Re:Why don't the ISPs help?

[larry bagina]

Better yet, ISPs should just snail mail their customers linux cds/dvds. That would basically eliminate all torrent traffic.

Re:Azereus already has a plugin for this

[markov_chain]

You can tell me, I work in the same place.

Napster's Old Peer Selection

[Aloisius]

At Napster I wrote a system to weight peers that were closer to the person searching by using network distance.

It was mostly because universities were complaining and so we weighted everyone on Internet 2 towards each other, but it also worked quite well for service providers like @Home and AOL. Since ISPs don't seem to care as much when their own bandwidth is used, a lot of complaints about our bandwidth consumption disappeared overnight. Indiana state university and someone else helped out if I remember correctly.

It was a rather simple system that used BGP routing tables from a number of routers to build a graph of network connectivity. It wasn't perfect, but it didn't have to be.

That said, with IPv6 weighting is *much* easier because of how the IP space is divided up. You can do a super naive implementation just by prefix.

An Azureus plugin Ono does something similar, though I believe they just look up the IP address for a CDN and weight people that look up the same IP towards each other. It is a decent solution, but it only works for between people who are running the plugin.

Re:Azereus already has a plugin for this

[mark_hill97]

It is called Ono and it can be found here

Tune your TCP Receive Window first

[WinDev]

The biggest speed issue facing Asia/Australia is the latency of traffic to the rest of the planet. The (Windows) TCP Receive Window is tuned too small for the distances required. If you change the receive window to the maximum, you can get 4x more data in the same period using any client (P2P, browsers, etc...).

Refer to:
http://cable-dsl.navasgroup.com/index.htm#IncreasingWindow

Re:Why don't the ISPs help?

[MooseMuffin]

And then they could work on snail mailing truckloads of porn. That would basically eliminate all other traffic.

Re:Azereus already has a plugin for this

[mcnellis]

This is worth reading about P4P: http://torrentfreak.com/uncovering-the-dark-side-of-p4p-080824/