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Online Billpay Provider Loses Control of Domains

An anonymous reader writes "Several sites are running a story about a domain hijacking at Checkfree, the largest provider of online bill payment services to numerous banks and credit unions. According to Network Solutions, someone logged in to the domain administration page using Checkfree's account, and redirected its domains to a site in the Ukraine configured to serve up malware to unsuspecting users." Things like this make me nervous about switching to otherwise-tempting online bill payment, but checks are dangerous, too.

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  1. Epic Fail by NotQuiteReal · · Score: 4, Funny

    CheckFree, what can I say? At least now my Nigerian account can be linked in and I will finally get my cut of the money that I fronted 1% for, to get it out of the country...

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    This issue is a bit more complicated than you think.
  2. Checks are dangerous too? Better avoid money xfer by noidentity · · Score: 4, Funny

    Things like thismake me nervous about switching to otherwise-tempting online bill payment, but checks are dangerous, too.

    Obviously, the only safe solution is to not pay... what, that has problems too?!?

  3. As a customer.... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Interesting
    My company uses Checkfree and Checkfree handled this very poorly. Apparently this happened on Monday and they never notified us. We where notified when one of our own customers notified us and and pointed out the suspicious activity. We had to call Checkfree to get the details. It was caused by their own ineptitude in managing their passwords and accounts.

    Posting anonymously so I don't get sued.

  4. Re:At least this time... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Funny

    In Soviet Ukraine, engineers socialize you! (Oh god did I really just type that?)

  5. Re:DNS Hijacking by Tyger · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Funny thing is it's a step back for Network Solutions security. You USED to be able to set it up to require a RSA key for domain changes, back when everything was done via odd forms over email.

  6. Benefits of Paper Checks by ShaunC · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Things like this make me nervous about switching to otherwise-tempting online bill payment, but checks are dangerous, too.

    I'm one of those holdouts who still use paper checks, envelopes, and stamps to pay my bills. Once a month or so I'll bring the stack into the office and take care of it during downtime, and folks look at me like I'm transmitting morse code over a telegraph. I do bank online, but I don't do online bill pay.

    One reason I still cling to checks is that they allow me to be the final arbiter and gatekeeper of my money, and I have better fiscal responsibility when I'm directly involved in disbursement. Each time I physically write out a check, there's a bit of mental bookkeeping that takes place. You can't sit down and write "One thousand one hundred ninety-eight and 32/100" without pausing for a moment to think, holy shit, that's X% of my paycheck. If you elect not to use online bill pay, you have to actually look at your credit card statements each month, instead of just setting up a $200 monthly ACH and ignoring the current total.

    I'm afraid that if I set everything up to be paid automatically, I'd very quickly wake up to discover that my checking account is overdrawn because I wasn't paying enough attention. Writing checks and licking envelopes is my way of keeping tabs on what's going out the door each month. The potential security benefits don't hurt, as anyone screwing around with mailed bills faces the wrath of the United States Postal Inspection Service. Unlike most online fraud, fucking with the mails will actually get you in trouble, and USPIS doesn't blow you off if you haven't suffered hundreds of thousands of dollars in losses.

    I do miss the one benefit that physical checks had up until a couple of years ago, the float. Check21 pretty much ruined that, but maybe it was for the better. Come to think of it, I haven't overdrafted since Check21.

    Long live the check, just stay away from my routing numbers.

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  7. Some more details... by Darth+Muffin · · Score: 4, Informative
    My wife works for a CU, and has been giving me details on this all day. I guess the cats out of the bag now and I can say something :) Your financial institution is not to blame, but in my wife's case they're offering to help clean up infected user's computers.

    Anyhow, what I know is that the malware is new and still being analyzed -- they're not fully sure what it's for yet (capturing accounts, spamming, botnet, or probably all of the above). For now they are recommending that people udate their virus scanners and Acrobat Reader. They must suspect Acrobat as an infection vector somehow.

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  8. Re:Summary's analysis doesn't make much sense. by Tablizer · · Score: 5, Informative

    If there were a Slashdot feature to transfer money out of your bank account...

    The /. HTML was hijacked, and odd jumpy misaligned CSS was put up instead ;-)
           

  9. Tax ramifications by daemonenwind · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Each time I physically write out a check, there's a bit of mental bookkeeping that takes place. You can't sit down and write "One thousand one hundred ninety-eight and 32/100" without pausing for a moment to think, holy shit, that's X% of my paycheck.

    This is exactly why people should have to pay income tax instead of having it automatically deducted.

    If everyone actually had to write that fat check out, they might begin to care about elections and the state of the world.

  10. i 3 usa by Vegeta99 · · Score: 5, Informative

    When I was 16, I discovered that with a ruler, an exacto knife, and some elmer's glue you could make up your own checks. They also had "MAC Check" machines that would scan a check - even from a non-customer - and cash them.

    When I was 19, I worked in a junk mail plant that at times printed the 25% interest rate personal checks that credit card companies send out to new cardholders. All night we would watch "CONGRATULATIONS ON YOUR NEW $100,000 CREDIT LIMIT!" with 6 checks attached go whizzing by at 5MPH. When that roll of checks breaks, printed-but-junk checks dump on the floor, 7 feet per second, and if I wanted, I could pocket the sonsabitches and spend like hell - before the recipient even activated their new card. We sent those out, too.

    Can our banking system really be that insecure? I open an account based on a supposedly unique ID number, hand them a photo ID that doesn't even reference my SSN. Then, they give me another number - my account number - and tell me to keep it private. Three weeks later, I get my checks that ten minimum wage slaves have already gotten to see. Every check I hand out has my private account number printed at the bottom.

    Most banks hold you responsible for any automated clearing house fraud, and yet, to authorize a transfer out, all that is needed are the numbers at the bottom of every personal check you write and the "assurance" from the receiving institution that you have "authorized the transfer".

    When ya think about it, it's no wonder they charge you $2 to withdraw from an ATM, $3 to use a teller, and $35 for an overdraft - it's easier to roll the dice to get an account number than it is to roll the dice and win the lottery!

  11. Re:Summary's analysis doesn't make much sense. by zoefff · · Score: 5, Funny

    If there were a Slashdot feature to transfer money out of your bank account...

    It's called 'subscription'

  12. Re:DNS Hijacking by SeaFox · · Score: 4, Insightful

    You *do* realize that all of those banks allow an attacker to access your account without the keyfob, right? They just need to call the bank, impersonate you (often by simply using the password they keylogged in the first place) and claim they lost it (or just use the automated phone service at most banks, which accepts your password without the added key).

    This seems to be what happens when any business tries to implement any sort of account security. It has to be made so it can be easily bypassed, or you end up with customers mad at the company because they locked themselves or relatives/family out and the company wont allow them to simply go through on their word they are authorized. It's like they don't know how to see how it looks from the company's point of view.

    Build a better lock, and they'll build a better idiot.