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Chemical Pollution Is Destroying Masculinity

myrdos2 writes "A host of common chemicals is feminizing males of every class of vertebrate animals, from fish to mammals, including people. Many have been identified as 'endocrine disruptors' or gender-benders because they interfere with hormones. Communities heavily polluted with gender-benders in Canada, Russia, and Italy have given birth to twice as many girls as boys, which may offer a clue to the mysterious shift in sex ratios worldwide. And a study at Rotterdam's Erasmus University showed that boys whose mothers had been exposed to PCBs grew up wanting to play with dolls and tea sets rather than with traditionally male toys. It also follows hard on the heels of new American research which shows that baby boys born to women exposed to widespread chemicals in pregnancy are born with smaller penises and feminized genitals. It is calculated that 250,000 babies who would have been boys have been born as girls instead in the US and Japan alone. And sperm counts are dropping precipitously. Studies in more than 20 countries have shown that they have dropped from 150 million per milliliter of sperm fluid to 60 million over 50 years."

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  1. Cultural influence by danieltdp · · Score: 5, Insightful

    The choice of playing with dolls, tea sets or cars is CULTURAL and not genetic. This have been proved in numerous scientific researches.

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    1. Re:Cultural influence by danieltdp · · Score: 5, Insightful

      BTW, contrary to what boys usually say: action figures are just dolls :-)

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    2. Re:Cultural influence by Eryq · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Did you completely prevent your daughter from watching TV -- where she would encounter a steady stream of images of little girls dressed in pink and playing with dolls?

      Did you prevent her from reading kids books, which are brimming with descriptions (and illustrations) of little girls wearing pink and playing with dolls?

      Did you keep her out of all malls, toy stores, and clothing stores, which display row upon row of pink clothes and dolls in the "Girls" aisles?

      Did you keep her locked in a basement, where she would never meet other little girls (whose social approval she would subconsciously seek) dressed in pink and playing with dolls?

      Did you prevent her from interacting with relatives who disagreed with your philosophy, and got her dolls and pretty pink dresses?

      Of course you didn't.

      Societal gender norms creep into every household through a hundred back doors. You can't stop them. And unless you wore pink and played with dolls in front of your little girl, and your wife never did, you were probably doing nothing to counter their influence. Being neutral is not the same as working against.

      And by the way: just a hundred years ago, pink was considered a boy's color, and blue was for girls .

      Sorry, but the GP is correct: the whole "girls love pink" thing has long been accepted as cultural, not genetic, and a hundred years from now it could very well swing the other way.

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  2. Re:That sucks by morgan_greywolf · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Trust me. I'm married. You wouldn't. Don't get me wrong, I'm very happily married. But one thing being married has taught me -- women are complex, emotional creatures who need a whole lot of care and feeding (well, actually, I knew that before I got married, but you learn it better after you're married). Taking care of one spouse is difficult enough.

    What you want is polyamory, not polygamy. That way you get to have sex with the other women, and you only have take care of one. ;)

  3. Re:That sucks by Tom · · Score: 5, Insightful

    That depends on a lot of other factors besides government encouragement.

    See it like this: Polygamy is here, today. Depending on your culture or country, it might be officially sanctioned (muslims if n=4, or mormons) or not (most of the west, anything else that's catholic). But reality is that it simply takes different forms. In the west, for example, the rich manager simply has an affair. More often with knowledge of his wife than you'd think.

    The common factor is that requires the ability to financially support two wives. That's why in muslim countries, even though they can have up to four wives, the vast majority only have one. They simply can't afford a second one. And that's why in western society, a lot of rich men do have two (or more) wives, going by different official terms, because they can afford to.

    So - you still happy? :-)

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  4. Re:Pollution = More Gay Men by geminidomino · · Score: 5, Insightful

    The religious right is against millions-of-years-ago storytelling that masquerades as hard science. As we all should be.

    As opposed to thousands-of-years-ago storytelling that they take as gospel?

  5. Re:Unfortunately, in reality most likely different by schon · · Score: 5, Insightful

    It goes deeper than that though - "attractive" meant "the guy who could kill or maim his rivals".

    Look at animal species that are polygamous - even the "docile" herbivores engage in violence as the males compete for females. In species that engage in pair-bonding, violence is much less common.

    Monogamy (enforced by law/church) was a way of reducing societal violence.

  6. Re:Y-chromosome by Evangelion · · Score: 5, Insightful

    The XY zygotes could fail to develop into males (as described in other replies which actually understand biology), or they could simply spontaneously abort -- in which case, the parents would try again.

    If XY has a higher failure rate, then from a demographic standpoint there is a batch of babies that "should have" been males, but were born females because the male embryos failed. In this case, it wouldn't be about one physical baby that should have been male, but was born female -- but one kind of "demographic slot" should have been filled by a male baby, but got filled by a female baby instead.

  7. Re:Pollution = More Gay Men by Aceticon · · Score: 5, Insightful

    The religious right is against millions-of-years-ago storytelling that masquerades as hard science.

    <irony>
    It's clear from your neutral, non-emotionally charged and logical words and arguments that you are not at all pushing an agenda.
    </irony>

    Having been raised in a deeply catholic country and having studied science at an University along with some colleagues and even teachers which were both scientists AND Christians it never ceases to amaze me how the US seems to produce scores and scores of uneducated, anti-education, ignorant and even downright dumb "believers", incapable of reconciling religion with science.

    Quick hint: it's perfectly possible to believe both in God and in the Big-Bang - they're not at all mutually exclusive as long as you look at the bible as a book full of allegories instead of trying to believe that the English translation is literally the word of Jesus.

  8. Re:Pollution = More Gay Men by GayBliss · · Score: 5, Insightful

    As a gay man, I have already done some of this research, and I can tell you without a doubt that gay men are NOT physically more feminine in general than straight men. There are masculine and feminine men in both camps, and I don't see any masculine/feminine bias in either direction. And there is certainly no bias towards a smaller penis size in gay men.

    I think the reason gay men act feminine at times has more to do with them letting go of the macho image that straight men try to portray, especially in the United States, which is why European men are often accused of "acting gay"; because they don't worry about acting "macho" as much as American men do. Europeans in general don't have such a deep seated fear of being branded as gay. This hasn't always been the case in the United States either. Watch some old B&W movies and note how much more "gay" the male actors tend to be than they do today.