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Netflix Comes To Tivo, AppleTV, Linux

An anonymous reader writes "Netflix on Tivo is officially out and leaving satellite users out in the cold. Tivo announced today that if you are a subscriber to both services then you can start receiving many Netflix titles on your Tivo for no extra charge. This is only available to subscribers with TiVo HD, TiVo HD XL and TiVo Series3 DVRs. The majority of Tivo's subscribers are probably Series 2 owners and will be forced to 'upgrade' if they want this new service but it won't be that easy for those on satellite. Tivo's current model lineup does not really offer a solution for satellite subscribers. The HD and HD XL are cable only and there is no sign of the Series 3 on their site." Another reader also writes to tell us that "Linux PC and AppleTV users are about to gain the ability to stream Netflix's movies and TV shows directly to their systems. Although Netflix's instant watch service only officially supports Windows and Mac, Boxee expects to release Netflix streaming support to the Ubuntu version of its free A/V media center software within a couple of days, and says that adding Netflix streaming support to AppleTV asap is its top priority."

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  1. Show Me The Titles by alain94040 · · Score: 5, Insightful

    That's great in theory, but the problem with Netflix is that the selection of movies that they let you stream is, shall we say... poor.

    At least the good news is that they are opening up and trying to support as many distribution channels as possible. It's a pain to connect my laptop to my TV, just because by definition, a laptop is always on the go, and a TV connection means plugging and unplugging two cables each time (one for video, one for audio). It's just too much of a hassle.

    That's why I eventually got an AppleTV: it's the best way to browse music on a HiFi system which has an HD TV attached to it (that is to say, 90% of the standard geek setup) - and it may even be able to display video content too :-) I wish they had called it iTunes TV, it would not have confused people so much.

    Now my AppleTV will get more content from its Internet connection. All good to me. As streaming movies becomes commonplace, maybe pirates and DRM will not be such an obsession of Hollywood...

    1. Re:Show Me The Titles by elrous0 · · Score: 4, Informative

      Not only that, but about half the time, I can't even get the damn movies I do have in my queue to actually stream to my 360 at all (I just get a vague "Playback did not start" type message). This seems to vary by disc, and doesn't seem to have anything to do with my connection. I was trying to watch some "Forever Knight" episodes this weekend, but could not get any of them to play, whereas eps from other series seemed to work just fine. AFAIK, none of these show the "Not available on Xbox" label that I've seen on some Sony movies.

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    2. Re:Show Me The Titles by blhack · · Score: 4, Interesting

      They let you stream a lot of the Independent and Documentary stuff...

      I have a feeling that this is pretty appealing to the Slashdot crowd. /got netflix this weekend.

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    3. Re:Show Me The Titles by jandrese · · Score: 4, Funny

      But they have Jesus Christ Vampire Hunter available for streaming, what else could you want?

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    4. Re:Show Me The Titles by cayenne8 · · Score: 5, Funny
      "AFAIK, none of these show the "Not available on Xbox" label that I've seen on some Sony movies."

      Hmm.....I see no mention of this being available for MythTV.

      I'm not really interested in this streaming stuff. I'd much rather get a real DVD in the mail and watch it. Then, I also "back up" a copy for NetFlix too before I send it back. Just a favor to them for being such a great service.

      :-)

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    5. Re:Show Me The Titles by JCSoRocks · · Score: 4, Interesting

      For me the streaming is less about movies and more about watching shows / novelty stuff that you wouldn't usually want to waste a rental on. I can watch a whole season of a TV show in a weekend if I want. It's great.

      The movie selection doesn't matter as much because the picture and sound quality aren't as great as they are on the physical media anyway. If I want to watch a movie I'll wait for the BluRay to come in the mail and watch the magical 1008p hotness and hear the uncompressed audio.

      For most TV shows that stuff doesn't matter. Do you really need to see The Office or 30 Rock in HD? I'm perfectly happy streaming those with no commercials to my xbox. I love it.

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    6. Re:Show Me The Titles by Ephemeriis · · Score: 4, Interesting

      That's great in theory, but the problem with Netflix is that the selection of movies that they let you stream is, shall we say... poor.

      That really depends on what you're looking for.

      No, the recent blockbuster titles aren't generally available... But there's tons of good sci-fi and horror, and lots of independent and foreign films, and tons of documentaries, and lots of old TV... Enough stuff that my wife and I make very good use of the streaming stuff.

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    7. Re:Show Me The Titles by Bourbonium · · Score: 4, Interesting

      Just go to the boxee.tv site and request an invite. You'll be put on a waitlist, but you'll get a response. It may take you a while, but I got an invite only 2 weeks after I requested one. You can also register on the boxee forums and get technical information about the project, and I note a lot of people posting there are begging for invites. Anyone already in the Alpha test can invite their friends, which is part of the charm of the platform. Social networking is what sets Boxee apart from lots of other media center packages. Once you log into Boxee, you can see what your friends have been watching, and they can see your activity, recommend movies, TV shows, music, and all you have to do is click on the selection to launch it. If you reply to me here with a valid email address, I'll be happy to send you one, since the project gets even more interesting the more friends you have in the network. You can use a free throwaway account like Hotmail or Yahoo if you like. I need more Boxee friends!

  2. Why bother by Inglix+the+Mad · · Score: 5, Interesting

    I have a PS3 for Blu-Ray and can stream Netflix, Hulu, and other items straight from my PC using PlayOn ( www.themediamall.com ).

    Too little, too late. Why take up the space on my PVR when I can live stream it from my PC?

    Just my two pence.

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    1. Re:Why bother by MooseMuffin · · Score: 4, Interesting

      How about:
      a. PlayOn isn't free

      b. This is also a live stream that won't take up space on your PVR.

    2. Re:Why bother by vux984 · · Score: 5, Informative

      Too little, too late. Why take up the space on my PVR when I can live stream it from my PC?

      Too little too late if you have PS3 or xbox360.

      Millions of people don't have and don't want either.

  3. XBox 360 left out of summary completely? by fahrvergnugen · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Netflix gets it.

    Every streaming media provider so far that has arrived & failed has done so because they try to mimic the rental pricing model. They charge $3 a movie for 24 hours, and then wonder why sales are low. The thing is, people won't pay $3 for access to media they don't physically control.

    Netflix is following the HBO OnDemand pricing model. $20 a month for unlimited access to anything in their ondemand streaming library. This is the pricing model people want when it comes to media they don't physically control. Since I didn't pay per-item, I don't mind that there are restrictions on use.

    I've been using this service on the XBox 360 for the past few weeks and it's been exceptional. My only technical gripe is that it's limited to 2-channel audio right now, but otherwise there is nothing to complain about. Widescreen movies are displayed fullscreen on an HD set, 4:3 content is pillarboxed, the video quality is approximately on-par with DVD. As soon as they work out 5.1 it'll be perfect. The addition of TV series with new episodes that have just aired but are not yet available on DVD is just another perk. Selection is growing every day.

    It's really fantastic if you've got the bandwidth.

    I'm seriously thinking about canceling my satellite TV service / DVR and just running with 360 & Netflix. For just under $300 a year, ($50 xblive, $20/mo to Netflix), as opposed to the almost $1000 a year that most cable/satellite companies charge for HD service, it's a great deal.

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  4. Submission inaccurate by hkb · · Score: 4, Informative

    When will submitters like ScuttleMonkey RTFA they are submitting?

    NetFlix isn't coming to the AppleTV version of Boxee, as the AppleTV is not powerful enough, as TFA states.

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  5. Hackish by pvera · · Score: 4, Interesting

    I got two Xbox 360s, two AppleTVs. One set for myself and the wife, the other for my 10-yr old.

    My options:

    1. transcode content and watch it on the AppleTV. Takes time, and my Turbo.264 hardware encoder is a piece of crap, the new Handbrake works much better without even relying on the dongle. Parental controls are awesome, and content is organized very well.

    2. stream content from the mac into the 360 with Connect360. Looks almost identical to #1, without having to transcode. Only thing that sucks is navigating through a lot of content, and there are no parental controls.

    3. watch netflix on the mac. Not good enough.

    4. watch netflix on the mac on the Parallels 4 side. Not good enough (almost can't tell it apart from #3).

    5. watch netflix on the 360. It frickin rocks. Having to go to the website to add to the queue is a minor annoyance but not the end of the world.

    6. Renting content on the 360. Works very damn nice, only a bit slow to start if it is HD content. Could use more variety.

    7. Renting content on the AppleTV. Also works very nice, but sometimes it takes weeks for new content to show up. They do release at least something every week, but mostly so it looks like they are alive.

    I have also used boxee on the AppleTV, and while in theory it worked, it was sloppy and it screwed up with the menu hierarchy. After an hour of playing with it I was annoyed enough to delete it.

    I like how the streaming on the 360 works because it takes exactly zero tampering with the 360 to make it happen. All you need is a media pc, or a mac running software impersonating a media pc. Adding boxee to the appleTV was simply scary.

    What I really want is for Apple to do exactly the same thing that was done to the 360, add a menu entry for Netflix with a SIMPLE way to authenticate the device (the way this was done in the 360 was just beautiful, just a short, easy to type code) and not a damn thing else.

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  6. But Mommy, *Tommy* got a new toy! by ClayJar · · Score: 5, Insightful

    This is bullshit. I have two series 2 tivo's and have been a subscriber for years. I purchased them both with lifetime service. Now I am supposed to buy new hardware and pay monthly so I can use netflix?

    Let's see. You paid for lifetime service, and a product you didn't pay for that runs on hardware you didn't buy is available now, and since you don't get it, you complain? Your TiVo still works and your lifetime service is still providing data. In fact, it is likely you are getting more than you originally paid for (i.e. there are new features which *have* made it to Series 2 TiVos).

    For (not) the last time, people, the fact that someone else may gain an additional unexpected benefit does not mean that anyone who did not get the additional unexpected benefit is being slighted! You do not *lose* anything just because someone else has a shiny new toy.