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Student Faces Suspension For Spamming Profs

edmicman sends word of a Fox News report about a Michigan State University student who is facing suspension for bulk emailing a number of professors at the university about a proposed change to the school calendar — an e-mail that the university is labeling spam. The article contains links to a copy of the original email, the allegations against the student, and the university's Email Acceptable Use Policy. The student, Kara Spencer, asked a Philadelphia rights organization, FIRE, to get involved. The article quotes the FIRE defense program director: "The fact that MSU is considering punishment of Spencer simply for exercising her right to contact selected faculty members by e-mail shows a disturbing disregard for students' freedom of expression. ... Threatening a member of the student government with suspension for sending relevant, timely e-mails to faculty members is outrageous." Spencer is awaiting the school's judgement after a hearing, and vows to take to the courts if suspended.

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  1. Mass mailing by DerekJ212 · · Score: 5, Funny

    Clearly, the solution is to mass mail all students at the university for support.

    1. Re:Mass mailing by digitalunity · · Score: 5, Insightful

      No that would be ineffective. Clearly the proper course of action is to contact the media so millions of uninvolved strangers can mock the university for such stupefying misapplication of policy.

      Interestingly, it seems as a student government representative she was fulfilling her duties by attempting to negotiate change between students and faculty. Her email was well written, clear and concise.

      I fail to see how the university can justify any reprisal.

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    2. Re:Mass mailing by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative
      The details of the case, with analysis, are here: http://www.thefire.org/index.php/case/773.html.

      MSU's anti-spam policy is clearly unconstitutional (see blog post at http://www.thefire.org/index.php/article/10012.html).

      Adam Kissel
      Director, Individual Rights Defense Program
      Foundation for Individual Rights in Education

    3. Re:Mass mailing by moderatorrater · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Civil disobedience is fine, IMO. Have at it, but don't come blubbering when Mr. Consequence arrives to the party.

      I thought that was the point of civil disobedience, that you showed the world the injustice by suffering through the situation in a more public way.

    4. Re:Mass mailing by bigstrat2003 · · Score: 5, Insightful

      An opinion blog or forum opinion does not determine constitutionality.

      <nitpick>

      Not so. Anyone can determine constitutionality by examining a law, and the constitution, and telling you whether or not it violates the constitution. Now, that won't save your ass in court, but to say that the only valid judge of constitutionality is the courts is not only wrong, but against the spirit in which our nation was founded (that the people should keep the government in check).

      </nitpick>

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    5. Re:Mass mailing by Frnknstn · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Spam is:

      Unsolicited,
      Bulk,
      Commercial
      email.

      It is not solicited email of any kind, it is not personal email of any kind, and it is not non-commercial email. A local school emailing your entire neighborhood to tell them that the school is closed due to snow is annoying, but it is not spam. A teenager who emails a chain letter to your entire domain is annoying, but it is not spam.

      This was (barely) bulk, and it was mostly unsolicited. It was not, however, commercial and thus it was not spam.

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  2. I read her entire email by deft · · Score: 5, Interesting

    it's linked in the news article. It was well written, not off topic, and expressed a reasonable concern about the time period students have to get to know the school apparently. It was not "spam" at all.

    It sounds like the professors are more butthurt she got their email addresses than interested in responding to the concern she expressed.

    They simply should have redirected her appeal to the right people if it was not appropriate to be sent via that email list. Instead they are being punative.

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    1. Re:I read her entire email by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

      How could the sysadmin not have seen this:
      http://lct.msu.edu/guidelines-policies/bulkemail.html

      "
      # Permitted uses for broad cross-University mailing. Bulk e-mailing may be used only by University offices to send communications necessary to the normal course of business and which typically require some official action be taken individually by recipients. Such permitted uses include:

              * Dissemination of urgent information of health and safety concern for students and University employees.
              * Communication of information regarding changes of University policies or procedures, or actions that affect employment or compensation status, or status as a student.
              * Regular communications (for example, to University employees) that are required by law, regulation or University policy for which bulk e-mail may largely replace paper transmittal.

      "

      So, according to their own policy, mass emailing of "...information regarding changes of University policies or procedures, or actions that affect employment or compensation status, or status as a student..." falls within acceptable use. That is assuming that this change to the university schedule is a "change in policy" or "affects employment". I don't see how that wouldn't be the case.

  3. First we need a good definition of spam. by imyy4u3 · · Score: 5, Interesting
    Is spam any unsolicited email sent out to 20 or more recipients? If so, this is spam.

    Is spam any unsolicited commercial email sent out to 20 or more recipients? If so, this is not spam.

    Is spam any unsolicited advertorial email sent out to more than 1 person? If so, this is not spam.

    Is spam any unsolicited email sent to more than 1 person? If so, this is spam.

    The problem here is we need a legal definition of spam to define what it is. Then once the public knows what spam is, we can prosecute those who send it illegally, and stop wasting our damn time arguing what it is. Personally, I like the definition of any unsolicited email sent to more than 20 people...regardless of the content.

  4. Re:That brings up an interesting question... by Bieeanda · · Score: 5, Insightful

    The most basic answer is that we're not still back in the day on Usenet. Word meaning is fluid, especially when it comes to slang. Cross-posting is more difficult in e-mail and on forums these days, than it used to be on Usenet with some news clients, and so those elements of the definition have become archaic. People use the term 'spam' in the context of unsolicited mail because that's the only context they have for it.

  5. That's stupid. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I'm really sick of replies like this:

    Civil disobedience is fine, IMO. Have at it, but don't come blubbering when Mr. Consequence arrives to the party.

    This is a canned comment that tools make on any given story about someone standing up to establishment stupidity. This is the same attitude that southerners commonly took towards blacks protesting fucked up laws. Now, I'm not saying that her cause is anywhere near the same level of fighting jim crow and southern racism in general, BUT, if you look at how civil disobediance in the south(and elsewhere) actually works, you'll see that the "blubbering" about the consquences IS PART OF IT. THAT'S HOW CHANGE IS ACHIEVED AGAINST STUPID POLICIES.

    You have to not only disobey stupid policies, but then you have to whine bitch and moan about the consequences it if you want them changed and if you want a just resolution. THAT'S PART OF THE PROCESS OF CIVIL DISOBEDIANCE. You don't do that last part, you end up a door mat of the system, rather than someone who forces it to change.