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Majel Roddenberry Dies At 76

unassimilatible writes "If there was ever a sad day for nerds, it's today, as Majel Barrett-Rodenberry has passed away. The widow of Star Trek creator Gene Roddenberry is best remembered as the gorgeous Nurse Christine Chapel from the original series, the pesky and officious Lwaxana Troi from The Next Generation and Deep Space Nine, and of course the ubiquitous voice of Star Trek computers in movies, TV, and animated films (who hasn't used her voice as a system sound on their PC?). Majel also attended Star Trek conventions yearly and was a producer of Andromeda. Fortunately, Majel just finished her voice over work for the computers in J.J. Abrams' latest Trek movie. I have to admit, this made me sad, just having caught up on the entire TNG and DS9 series on DVD."

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  1. Who will replace her? by iSzabo · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Her voice was unique - ironically I don't think a digital voice would do the computer justice, and posers ain't cool. :(

    1. Re:Who will replace her? by Matt+Perry · · Score: 5, Interesting

      Who will replace her?

      Sound Forge and a dialogue editor. There is enough of her computer dialog from all the trek episodes and movies that an editor could splice together a variety of sentences without much effort.

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    2. Re:Who will replace her? by WCLPeter · · Score: 3, Insightful

      so we're destined to have 15 Enterprise movies now (to make up for the DS9 & Voyager movies that we haven't had yet, and now can't have). Crap.

      Whether it's "Crap" or not depends on if they ignore the first three seasons. If they do, movies based on Enterprise could be good.

    3. Re:Who will replace her? by Tekoneiric · · Score: 5, Interesting

      I'm suprised she didn't market her voice to the electronics industry for products like GPS devices.

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    4. Re:Who will replace her? by Baricom · · Score: 4, Interesting

      I wouldn't be surprised if she was under a non-compete preventing exactly that.

    5. Re:Who will replace her? by FuturePastNow · · Score: 3, Interesting

      I would love to have a Star Trek -licensed GPS unit. LCARS for your car...

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    6. Re:Who will replace her? by dontmakemethink · · Score: 3, Interesting

      Actually Louise Fletcher's voice (Kai Winn from DS9) is close enough that I actually thought she did the computer voice in Voyager. Unfortunately she's up there at 74 years old, but she's still active. She was nurse Ratched in One Flew Over The Cookoo's nest (1975).

      Just don't let George Lucas have any say on who does the voice, or we'll get some squeaky Jar Jar Binks nonesense to sell Star Trek touchscreen computer monitors to kids with matching appearance themes for Vista...

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    7. Re:Who will replace her? by bigstrat2003 · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Lots of people loved DS9, and it's widely considered a contender for the best Trek, along with TNG. And I, for one, thought Voyager was good, and I know I'm not alone.

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    8. Re:Who will replace her? by UncleTogie · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Originally, the Borg were a ruthless, conscience-free enemy that could not be reasoned with -- diabolical. In Voyager, not so much.

      Are Hugh sure? ;)

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    9. Re:Who will replace her? by spungebob · · Score: 3, Interesting

      I would love to give Majel Roddenberry in my car.

      I can go you one better - I once held her in my arms...

      I was working as a PA for a movie called Mommy. Majel played the role of Mrs. Withers, a schoolteacher who gets killed by the movie's lead villainess.

      In her final scene, Mrs. Withers is hanging up decorations after hours in her classroom when she is confronted by the murderous lead character. After a brief argument with her would-be killer, Majel's character climbs back up a stepladder to resume her decorating and the murderess does the dirty deed by pushing Majel off the stepladder, causing her to fall to the floor where she presumably dies from a fractured skull.

      The scene called for an upper torso shot of Majel falling backwards off the ladder. Since we're talking "B" movie here and the budget did not include an airbag for her to fall onto, the director had me and three other PA's stand next to the ladder with our arms linked together so as to catch her. She literally fell into my arms - not once but several times before the final take. Absolute highlight of my life! What really impressed me, though, was how trusting she was and - to echo what many other posters have already said - how joyful she was as a person.

      One other story about Majel's final scene in the movie - her very last camera shot was from above, looking down on the fallen Mrs. Withers as she lay dying on the classroom floor. The director told Majel to ham it up a bit for her death scene so the editor would have some extra footage to work with for the final cut, so there she laid on the floor - eyes closed, a pained expression on her face, rolling her head to and fro and moaning...

      (i'm just gonna let that image sink in for a moment or two)

      ... it was a hypnotic moment, the entire crew was transfixed and except for Majel the room was absolutely quiet. And at some point it sunk in with me that the scene had been going on for a lot longer than was probably necessary and that the director wasn't saying "cut". It must have occurred to Majel as well because she suddenly stopped, raised her head and looked over at the director as if to ask whether it was enough footage. But before she could speak - out of the deafening silence of that moment - a small desperate voice in the back of the room cried out "Marry me, Majel!!".

      If you ever get a chance to see the actual movie, keep that story in mind as you watch Mrs. Withers' final on-screen moments.

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  2. Number One! by Bieeanda · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Let's not forget that she was cast as the first officer in the original Star Trek pilot episode too.

    1. Re:Number One! by JackieBrown · · Score: 4, Informative

      And in Babylon 5!

    2. Re:Number One! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

      Little known fact... Had the original Star Trek pilot cast gone to series and into a second season, she like Jonathan Frakes would've grown a beard.

    3. Re:Number One! by Zibblsnrt · · Score: 4, Interesting

      I loved the kind of stealth eulogy for Gene she gave in her appearance there.

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    4. Re:Number One! by Ethanol-fueled · · Score: 4, Insightful

      She probably didn't back in the day when "beaves" were fashionable, but later on when she became the sexy ol' cougar Lwaxana, she seduced the oedupus in all of us. I might even say that she was a prototype of Samantha from Sex and the City.

      Later, in an unexpected departure for her, it was revealed that she lost a child and almost died of her own guilt and sorrow.

      Later in DS9 she was seen as the MILFy chick who always tried to seduce the lovable, virginal social retard in all of us: Odo.

    5. Re:Number One! by profplump · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Guys, we all need to stop eating and switch to IV-delivered glucose. Poop is gross, and your digestive tract is mostly unnecessary with modern technology.

      I'm not against a hair styling -- be it head, face, or otherwise -- but to suggest that a standard bit of anatomy is "gross" and must be entirely removed is absurd.

    6. Re:Number One! by bickerdyke · · Score: 4, Funny

      Now would that be "News for Nerds" or "Stuff that matters"??

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  3. A fitting epitaph by dr_dank · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Computer...

    End program.

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    1. Re:A fitting epitaph by donig · · Score: 5, Funny

      She's dead, Jim.

    2. Re:A fitting epitaph by OpieTaylor · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Without Majel Barrett, there can never be another Star Trek movie or show. It is forbidden.

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    3. Re:A fitting epitaph by thatnerdguy · · Score: 3, Funny

      or fools seldom differ...

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  4. details by flynt · · Score: 4, Funny

    Were there any further details? Truly a Klingon icon.

  5. Roddenberry by stokessd · · Score: 3, Funny

    Isn't that one of the syrup flavors at IHOP?

    Sheldon

    1. Re:Roddenberry by ArcherB · · Score: 4, Interesting

      Isn't that one of the syrup flavors at IHOP?

      Sheldon

      Actually, the Roddenberry from an episode of Futurama that they were looking for when they were starving after leaving the planet of moochers. It was intended as reference to Gene Roddenberry (if I have to tell you who he is, please remove your SlashDot account!)

      Also, the title, "The Problem with Popplers" was in reference to "The Trouble with Tribbles", a Star Trek episode.

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    2. Re:Roddenberry by TwilightXaos · · Score: 4, Insightful

      We shall honor the dead how we wish.

      Perhaps you need to lighten the fuck up.

      Lame and rude? Like she cares now.

      Do you seriously think she wouldn't laugh at these jokes, if she were here?

      If that is the case, then I am glad she is gone. Those that can't laugh at themselves are the poorest souls, and life in it's wonder is lost on them; death is better.

      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WlBiLNN1NhQ&feature=channel

  6. "Death is that state... by Azgaard · · Score: 5, Insightful

    in which one exists only in the memory of others." - Natasha Yar

    Thankfully we have DVDs.

    God speed Majel. Say hi to Gene for us.

  7. Re:Other roles... by AJWM · · Score: 4, Informative

    .the one watching as the damaged Enterprise pulls into Stardock in Star Trek III...

    Nope, that was Grace Lee Whitney, Yeoman Janice Rand in the original series, and a CPO in ST IV. Apparently her brief appearance in ST III was not officially as Rand (probably for contractual reasons, I'm guessing) but her reaction makes more sense if she'd served on the Enterprise.

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  8. Re:c'mon ppl,this is really sad,please hold the jo by l0ungeb0y · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Out of respect for the dearly departed, please... DO MAKE ALL THE JOKES YOU CAN THINK OF. Only a self important sourpuss would want people crying over their passing.

    I'm going to do what Scotty would have done: Drink a bottle of something good and bask in the fond memories.

  9. Re:computer voice similarity explained by Chairboy · · Score: 5, Informative

    The Rift by Peter David
    http://startrek.wikia.com/wiki/The_Rift

    I'm a nerd.

  10. Little known fact by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Interesting

    The couple married in Japan in 1969 after "Star Trek" was canceled.

    The wedding party was naked.

  11. Iconic... by sirroc · · Score: 4, Insightful

    My wife and I were just discussing her the other evening; while watching WALL-E. Feeling sad that pixar didn't cast her as the voice of the ship's computer. Instead we got a vague homage to Alien in Sigourney Weaver.

    What I am now coming to realize by digesting this sad news; is that playing the voice of such a seemingly mundane role -of a starship's computer, Has become an icon of the Sci-Fi genre. While certainly not the first to play such a role. She certainly changed the entire paradigm of how the role was portrayed.

    Her efforts to continue her husbands work and support of the genre will be sorely missed.

    1. Re:Iconic... by cavefrog · · Score: 5, Funny

      "My wife and I were just discussing her the other evening; while watching WALL-E. Feeling sad that pixar didn't cast her as the voice of the ship's computer. Instead we got a vague homage to Alien in Sigourney Weaver."

      Hmm. And Sigourney Weaver played the part of Gwen DeMarco in Galaxy Quest - a person who's job it was to repeat what the computer was saying.

  12. Re:May I be the first to say... by Teresita · · Score: 5, Funny

    "She's dead, Jim"

    No, it's "She's dead, get off her Jim!"

  13. Here's to Ms.Lwaxana Troi by Bananatree3 · · Score: 3, Insightful

    "Every one of us has a thousand different kinds of... of little people inside of us. And some of them want to get out and be wild, and some want to be sad or happy or inventive or... or even just go dancing. That's why we all have so many different urges at different times. And all those different little people inside of us... we must never be afraid to take them with us, wherever we go."

    "Life's true gift is the capacity to enjoy enjoyment."

    Thank you for your humor, your kindness and quirky insights into life.

  14. Re:c'mon ppl,this is really sad,please hold the jo by M1rth · · Score: 5, Insightful

    No shit.

    The best way to memorialize someone isn't to cry boo-hoo over the fact that they died... but to celebrate what they gave us in their life. I'm sure there are an absolute ton of wonderful stories about her, and if you feel the need to make a joke related to her career... you validate her career and life by doing so.

    "She's dead, Jim." But at the same time the memories of her live on, and all she contributed to our lives will not be soon forgotten.

    Raise a glass and make a toast: to Majel Barrett-Roddenberry, who Boldly Went Where No Woman Had Gone Before starting at the very beginning.

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  15. Re:c'mon ppl,this is really sad,please hold the jo by Zibblsnrt · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Having (briefly) met her once, I think she'd appreciate the cascade of awful, awful Trek jokes that would spring up at the news of something like this.

    Or the Scotty route, which ideally done results in a thundering hangover and the inability to find at least half your clothes.

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  16. Re:c'mon ppl,this is really sad,please hold the jo by shanen · · Score: 3, Insightful

    I agree with the reasoning, but I still can't manage it. The news does fill me with sadness and makes me feel quite old, too. Shatner/Kirk is relatively well preserved--and sometimes he looks ancient.

    I regard TOS as a great epoch and a total fluke that it was associated with NBC. The production of TOS was practically a war with their ostensible sponsors, and now they great people of those days are leaving us. Meanwhile, NBC staggers on with such brilliant strategies as dumping prime time on Jay Leno. Hey, if you can't win, you might as well get out of the game, eh?

    Anyway, I want to be optimistic about the future. I actually think part of the optimism of TOS was related to the idealism that ran amok during the Kennedy period. Now I wonder if Obama can create such an atmosphere on the wreckage that Dubya is leaving behind? The wild oscillations of America's political system seem to be completely out of control these days...

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  17. Though.. by Seraphim_72 · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Though HAL was the voice of AI, I had always hoped that we would be able to get to the point where we could perfectly replicate her voice. It would have been fitting that in the 24th century that her voice really would have been the voice of the computer. God Speed and God Bless Majel, we are all richer for your life here.

    Seraphim

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  18. Things like this... by patryn20 · · Score: 5, Insightful

    ...make you realize just what you take for granted. That voice was the same from day one. Yet it never dawned on me there was a person (and, it turns out, a relatively prominent one) behind that sound. Another talent gone. Another memory created. Another ubiquitous item in our lives that will have to be replaced. The voice will never be the same. Godspeed, Majel.

    1. Re:Things like this... by lilomar · · Score: 4, Funny

      Godspeed, Majel.

      Is that warp-eight, or -nine?

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  19. Re:computer voice similarity explained by proverbialcow · · Score: 3, Funny

    Psssht. I beat myself all the time.

    To pics of Nurse Chappel. *sob*

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  20. Pics by Thaelon · · Score: 3, Informative

    Wiki links (with pics):
    Christine Chapel from the original series, and Lwaxana Troi from The Next Generation.

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  21. Re:c'mon ppl,this is really sad,please hold the jo by CharlieG · · Score: 5, Insightful

    It's OK if you can't manage it. I remember when Dad passed, some folks had funny stories about Dad (including a time he was arrested that I didn't know about!! - and I was in my 30s when it happened - charges dismissed). I was unable to make the jokes Dad would have appreciated, but I myself appreciated hearing them

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  22. JMS put the words there, no stealth was needed by Shivetya · · Score: 4, Informative

    http://www.ntua.gr/lurk/countries/co/guide/053.html

    About halfway down the page is some discussion of the quote and Majel's appearance on B5.


    # Was Morella's speech about greatness intended as a tribute to Gene Roddenberry?
    There's probably a fair amount there that could apply to Gene, yes...

    # If a word comes out of a character's mouth, it's usually mine. The bit about greatness was one of them; had a number of different subtexts going on behind it.

    If anything I would say that while there might have been some rivalry among the crews the people who create are more likely to be friendly than anything else. It is a small world when it comes to finding truly creative people.

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  23. That's on pages 80-81, btw. by mikelieman · · Score: 4, Informative
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