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Rare Venomous Mammal Filmed

Smivs writes "The BBC are reporting that footage of one of the world's most strange and elusive mammals has been captured by scientists. Large, and with a long, thin snout, the Hispaniolan solenodon resembles an overgrown shrew. It can inject passing prey with a venom-loaded bite. Dr Sam Turvey, a ZSL (Zoological Society of London) researcher involved with the program, told BBC News: 'It is an amazing creature — it is one of the most evolutionary distinct mammals in the world.' Along with the other species of solenodon, which is found in Cuba (Solenodon cubanus), it is the only living mammal that can actually inject venom into their prey through specialized teeth. Little is known about the creature, which is found in the Caribbean, but it is under threat from deforestation, hunting and introduced species. Researchers say conservation efforts are now needed. The mammal was filmed in the summer of 2008 during a month-long expedition to the Dominican Republic — one of only two countries where this nocturnal, insect-eating animal (Solenodon paradoxus) can be found (the other is Haiti). The researchers from the Durrell Wildlife Conservation Trust and the Ornithological Society of Hispaniola were able to take measurements and DNA from the creature before it was released."

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  1. Wow by ciaohound · · Score: 5, Funny

    The BBC are reporting that footage of one of the world's most strange and elusive mammals has been captured by scientists.

    What will slashdot be without Cowboy Neal?

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    1. Re:Wow by Shagg · · Score: 4, Funny

      The BBC are reporting that footage of one of the world's most strange and elusive mammals has been captured by scientists.

      A Slashdot member with a girlfriend?

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    2. Re:Wow by Reziac · · Score: 2, Funny

      And if I were that ugly, I'd *welcome* extinction!!

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    3. Re:Wow by Talderas · · Score: 4, Insightful

      The mammal was filmed in the summer of 2008 during a month-long expedition to the Dominican Republic â" one of only two countries where this nocturnal, insect-eating animal (Solenodon paradoxus) can be found (the other is Haiti).

      I'd be a little perplexed if Haiti didn't have the animal in it, IT SHARES THE SAME GOD DAMN ISLAND with the Dominican Republic.

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    4. Re:Wow by Thiez · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Can it even kill us? I couldn't find any information about how dangerous the venom was. Even if a bite could kill a human, that wouldn't make these creatures more dangerous that many types of insects, spiders, and snakes, and these poor critters are extremely rare and both variants of solenodons live on islands.

      Anyway, you can kill people too and you as an individual are (obviously) not needed in the food chain, nor is your family. If I were you I'd hope others hold life in a higher regard than you do.

    5. Re:Wow by Tim+Doran · · Score: 2, Informative

      This is slashdot - that little animal is considered quite a looker!

    6. Re:Wow by Shakrai · · Score: 4, Insightful

      I'd be a little perplexed if Haiti didn't have the animal in it, IT SHARES THE SAME GOD DAMN ISLAND with the Dominican Republic.

      Yeah, but if they had said it was native to Hispaniola most of us Americans wouldn't have a clue what they were talking about ;)

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    7. Re:Wow by interploy · · Score: 2, Funny

      Indeed. This thing makes an opossum looks like a sexy beast.

    8. Re:Wow by Skim123 · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Anyway, you can kill people too and you as an individual are (obviously) not needed in the food chain, nor is your family. If I were you I'd hope others hold life in a higher regard than you do.

      While I'm not in favor of wanton destruction of animal life, and conservation is a goal we should strive toward, but your analogy is specious. A human life is superior to an animal's life.

      And if you disagree, you best think twice before you swat a fly, eat a hamburger, or enjoy produce or goods that were harvested, in part, by the forced labor of animals.

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    9. Re:Wow by Skim123 · · Score: 2, Interesting

      A human life is superior to an animal's life.

      Why?

      Depends who you ask. I content we are because we are capable of intelligent thought and self-awareness. Douglas Hofstadter would tell you it's because we have a larger "soul" than animals (see this interview). More religious folk might tell you it's because God created us in his image and made the animals for our service.

      It would be hard for one who has the moral conviction that human life is not superior to animal life to live a morally consistent life. How could they justify eating meat, that would be tantamount to eating a fellow human's flesh. How could they justify hitting an animal while driving, and continuing on their way. That would be equivalent to hitting and injuring or killing another person and just driving along on your way. How would they defend eating crops plowed by cows - that would be akin to slave labor. (Granted, that's not much of a concern in today's mechanized farms.)

      So I ask you: why isn't a human's life superior to an animal's?

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    10. Re:Wow by MikeDirnt69 · · Score: 4, Funny

      A lie?

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    11. Re:Wow by Thiez · · Score: 2, Interesting

      > A human life is superior to an animal's life.

      Fair enough, but is a single human life superior to a complete species of mammals? I can't say I'd care much if tritonman killed a solenodon. But let's go WAAAAAY offtopic and consider a hypothetical situation wherin he is able and willing to destroy ALL solenodon and the only way to stop him is to kill him (he is standing next to his custom built solenodon doomsday device and about to press 'on', you have a chance to take him out with your sniper rifle)? What if he wasn't exterminating solenodon but cows?

    12. Re:Wow by UncleTogie · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Let me start out by saying that I'm playing devil's advocate here. I wear leather and love a good steak.

      Depends who you ask. I content we are because we are capable of intelligent thought and self-awareness.

      Dolphins, elephants, and other animals have demonstrated the same. While it may be at a lower level, it may not be that far off in OUR evolutionary history, either. Do they count?

      More religious folk might tell you it's because God created us in his image and made the animals for our service.

      If you read those biblical passages closely, you might notice that we were called to have dominion over the animal kingdom. Can't have dominion over something if you've hunted it into nonexistance.

      It would be hard for one who has the moral conviction that human life is not superior to animal life to live a morally consistent life. How could they justify eating meat, that would be tantamount to eating a fellow human's flesh.

      While it may not be superior, it wouldn't be inferior, either. I'd point at Native Americans for a good example of respect for nature, while not starving.

      Just another point of view to ponder...

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    13. Re:Wow by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

      I wouldn't be so worried about eating another human's flesh. I would rather eat a non-human's flesh, but, cherishing the nutrition providing by the body of one of my brethren is still laudable (see Stranger in a Strange Land). If an animal was hungry and ate me, I wouldn't be particularly upset. I would think, "This really sucks, there are still things I wanted to do in my life," but I would *not* think, "This is despicable! This is a lower life form DESECRATING a holy man created in God's own image!"

      I'll eat hamburgers, but if a lion tried to eat me, I would defend myself as any hunted animal does. If I succeeded, I would be grateful. If I failed, I would not blame the lion for being hungry and getting food.

      If I hit an animal while driving, I *do* feel bad. If at all possible, I stop, and see if the animal is okay. If it might not be okay, I take any action I can. If an animal trampled me inadvertently, then I, similarly, would not be much upset. If I can't stop nearby, I still find a safe place to stop and make a phone call to the police, department of transportation, or an animal hospital or rescue society, which are obviously very similar to what I would do if I had hit a human and could not safely stop nearby.

      As for slave labor, many, many species toil for the sake of another (ofter inadvertently, but sometimes for symbiosis). I feel really bad about man abusing animals, and I think that if a man needs the help of an animal, he should go far, far out of his way to recompensate the animal (treating it with respect, taking care of all of its needs, etc).

      Maybe I'm different than most?

      -os

    14. Re:Wow by Shagg · · Score: 3, Funny

      Mythical?

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    15. Re:Wow by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Funny

      That makes you a "candidate for further research"

    16. Re:Wow by Shagg · · Score: 5, Funny

      Despite sharing the same GOD DAMN ISLAND, economic and environmental conditions are extremely different.

      Good point. These critters wouldn't want to stay if they couldn't get a decent job.

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    17. Re:Wow by SmlFreshwaterBuffalo · · Score: 2, Funny

      If a Slashdot member with a girlfriend is rare, what does that make me? I'm a Slashdot member with a wife and two sons.

      You're clearly schizophrenic. Get help.

    18. Re:Wow by theodicey · · Score: 4, Insightful

      I'd be a little perplexed if Haiti didn't have the animal in it, IT SHARES THE SAME GOD DAMN ISLAND with the Dominican Republic.

      Well, I wouldn't be surprised if it were completely extinct in Haiti but hanging on in the Dominican Republic, considering the stark difference in the condition of the native forests.

    19. Re:Wow by fugue · · Score: 4, Funny

      Hard sayin'. You haven't told us whether you have a girlfriend.

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  2. Only Venom-Injecting Mammal? by PK+Tech+Guy · · Score: 5, Funny

    Obviously they never met my ex-girlfriend...

    1. Re:Only Venom-Injecting Mammal? by Diamon · · Score: 2, Funny

      You dated a platypus?

    2. Re:Only Venom-Injecting Mammal? by ozbird · · Score: 2, Funny

      You dated a male platypus?

  3. snipe hunting by skydude_20 · · Score: 4, Funny

    i told you it was real

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  4. Another venemous mammal by nobodyman · · Score: 5, Funny

    Large, and with a long, thin snout, the Hispaniolan solenodon resembles an overgrown shrew.

    Hey, do we really need to resort to these petty ad hominem attacks when referring to Ann Coulter?

  5. I told you all!!! by 2names · · Score: 2, Funny

    Vermicious Knids are real!

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  6. The sequel by Killer+Orca · · Score: 3, Funny

    Solenodons On a Plane! Hmmm, doesn't have quite the same ring.

  7. Of course, it's endangered by Muad'Dave · · Score: 2, Insightful

    ...it is under threat from deforestation, hunting and introduced species.

    They have no clue how many of these things there are, (other than there is more than one but fewer than enough to pave the whole island), but if course they're automatically "endangered" or "under threat" or whatever.

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    1. Re:Of course, it's endangered by damn_registrars · · Score: 2, Insightful

      They have no clue how many of these things there are, (other than there is more than one but fewer than enough to pave the whole island), but if course they're automatically "endangered" or "under threat" or whatever

      Hispaniola is not a very large island in terms of area. Considering this critter doesn't seem to be running through the cities, and the cities are expanding, it doesn't seem to be a very large leap to declare it endangered.

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    2. Re:Of course, it's endangered by evanbd · · Score: 2, Informative

      It looks scavengy to you? How nice. Did you read the bit where the people studying it say it eats live prey, and is very specially adapted to doing just that?

  8. Nerdy Animals by writerjosh · · Score: 3, Interesting

    "Solenodon paradoxus collects food by digging extensive tunnel systems under the ground, then foraging for insects and other invertebrates from the surrounding soil.

    Foods eaten include: millipedes (Iulides), ground beetles (Carabidae), various orthopteran insects (Gryllidae, Tettigoniidae, Blattidae), earthworms (Lumbricidae) and various types of snails."

    Strange that an animal loaded with venom doesn't go after small mammals or something.

    "Solenodon paradoxus is described as a 'slow mover' and a 'clumsy runner with no agility in avoiding enemies and a poor means of defense'"

    So what you're saying is, Solenodon paradoxus is the nerd of the jungle.

    more interesting facts: http://animaldiversity.ummz.umich.edu/site/accounts/information/Solenodon_paradoxus.html

  9. Terror of the Fire Swamp by Linux_ho · · Score: 5, Funny

    Rodents of Unusual Size? I don't think they exist.

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  10. Re:Poor platypus by shot151 · · Score: 2, Informative

    I didn't know this either, decided to look it up. There are a few more out there... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Venomous_mammals

  11. First thought that comes to mind by Catiline · · Score: 5, Funny

    Just from reading this article, I feel like it's the lead in to a Monty Python sketch.

    "And in this cage," (displays empty cage), "we can see the rare Caribbean poisonous shrew, which jumps out and injects its' prey with venom. Bites are instantly fatal, so we have to use extreme..."
    [A brown blur crosses the screen and attacks the speaker's face] "AAAAAAARRRRRRRGH!"

  12. Mammals are different by RudeIota · · Score: 2, Funny

    As we all know, mammals respect political borders.

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  13. Fangs by HangingChad · · Score: 2, Interesting

    We discovered a River Otter living in our pond. I was suddenly glad the little guy wasn't poisonous. He was enjoying one of my bluegill for breakfast this am. If he starts eating my bass he could become an endangered species. Cute little rascal, though.

    Wonder why an insect eating mammal needs venom? Those must be some bad ass bugs he's hunting.

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    1. Re:Fangs by argent · · Score: 2, Funny

      Wonder why an insect eating mammal needs venom? Those must be some bad ass bugs he's hunting.

      In Haiti? Voodoo zombie centipedes, at least.

  14. This is why I lose sleep at night by Badmovies · · Score: 4, Funny

    I know that, somewhere, a crazy genetic engineer is holding one of those little venomous beasts in his hand and thinking to himself, "These are cool. I wish they were bigger!"

    His office is right next door to the insane scientist who is trying to breed 40 lb tarantulas, and down the hall from the aquarium-hugging genius who wants to cross flying fish with piranhas.

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  15. Re:more like in-laws by BurningTyger · · Score: 2, Funny

    A mammal that injects venom into their prey through specialized teeth?
    Sounds more like the his mother-in-law

  16. Re:Mammal poison vs. affection by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Informative

    How does this work, I wonder? Are the mammals in question actually immune to the poison, or are they just built not to bite themselves somehow?

    Of course--like most mammals--they'd rather not to bite themselves. ;)

    Seriously, venomous animals don't need to be immune to their poison, but they can have other mechanisms to protect themselves, too:

    • The venom usually is only venomous after injection into the bloodstream. This is because either it targets cells other than skin cells ;), or it is injected in an inactive form and only gets activated after being mixed with blood (e. g., it is cleaved by an enzyme, or it reacts to changed pH).
    • The animals retain the venom in specialized glands which don't let the stuff diffuse out into the bloodstream (and, obviously, the cells building the inner lining of these glands must be either resistant to the venom, or they must cover themselves with a protective layer of glycoproteins, special pH and whatnot).
    • The digestive tract (including the mouth) can contain venom-inhibiting substances.

    If the latter though, I wonder if this is related to mammalian affection at all? Lots of mammals seem to be affectionate enough to lick their young/mates, nuzzle, groom peers, playfight, etc...

    Well, the venom usually is only secreted while biting, not while licking. ;) Excretion is controlled by timed contraction of the glands.

    Disclaimer: IANAB (biologist), but IAAMB (molecular biologist); therefore, my talk is just about general principles of how venomous animals can handle their venom. A real biologist could have nice examples of real animals at hand. ;)

  17. I love how... by Slash.Poop · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Rare footage of one of the world's most strange and elusive mammals has been captured by scientists.

    Implies that they somehow, by accident, captured it on video somewhere deep in a jungle. You watch the video and NOPE. It is confinement with handlers. How is that rare footage?

  18. IANAE by DaFallus · · Score: 2, Insightful

    I was trying to figure out why this thing would need to use poison when TFA only mentions a diet of insects. According to Wikipedia the "diet of solenodons consists largely of insects, earthworms, and other invertebrates, but they also eat vertebrate carrion, and perhaps even some living vertebrate prey such as small reptiles or amphibians"

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  19. Re: Can it even kill us? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Informative

    A bite to the hand will hurt and make your arm grow twice its size for a week not much more. The teeth themselves are large enough to inflict serious damage though. The animal was a bit clumsy and quite nice until we started handling it.

  20. BBQ! by commodoresloat · · Score: 2, Funny

    Can it even kill us?

    Who cares? I'm pretty sure we can kill it; the only important question here is how do they taste?