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Earth's Radio Telescopes Combining Forces

Slatterz writes "I own a basic 70mm telescope, which I'm sure Galileo would have given his right arm for in 1609. In fact, this year marks exactly 400 years since Galileo first pointed a telescope at the skies — discovering the moons of Jupiter and helping to prove that the universe doesn't revolve around us. As a mark of respect, the United Nations has declared 2009 the International Year of Astronomy. Official festivities kick off this week in Paris and, to help start the celebrations, 17 radio telescopes in Australia, Asia, Europe and the Americas will track three quasars using something called "real-time Very Long Baseline Interferometry" — basically creating hi-res images by combining their data to simulate a telescope as large as the Earth. Sounds cool."

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  1. And to kickstart the celebrations by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    the United Nations has declared 2009 the International Year of Astronomy. Official festivities kick off this week in Paris and, to help start the celebrations ... a giant light display and a firework!

    1. Re:And to kickstart the celebrations by CRCulver · · Score: 5, Interesting

      While growing up, my father imparted something of a passion for astronomy, and I remember being thrilled by a glance through his homebrew Dobsonian reflector. However, light pollution really takes any wonder out of gazing up at the heavens with a naked eye. I've been to some fairly remote places on Earth, such as central Kazakhstan and Western Sahara, but even there local authorities have put up enough lighting to seriously dim the skies. I can't imagine how glorious things must have been a century ago.

      It's a pity few even realize what a problem light pollution is. If you want to really appreciate the stars, consider looking at something like Bob Mizon's Light Pollution: Responses and Remedies . But in the face of apathy from officials, there's no much hope for improvement.

  2. Wiki help by Andr+T. · · Score: 4, Informative
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Radio_astronomy#Very_Long_Baseline_Interferometry

    Since the 1970s telescopes from all over the world (and even in Earth orbit) have been combined to perform Very Long Baseline Interferometry. Data received at each antenna is paired with timing information, usually from a local atomic clock, and then stored for later analysis on magnetic tape or hard disk. At that later time, the data is correlated with data from other antennas similarly recorded, to produce the resulting image. Using this method it is possible to synthesise an antenna that is effectively the size of the Earth. The large distances between the telescopes enable very high angular resolutions to be achieved, much greater in fact than in any other field of astronomy. At the highest frequencies, synthesised beams less than 1 milliarcsecond are possible.

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  3. If you want ot get in the hobby. by Lumpy · · Score: 4, Informative

    Dont get a crappy scope. it will simply discourage you.

    go to orion at http://www.telescope.com/control/main/ and buy a 8" dobsonian.

    you will see things that the guys that have the cheap crap cant.

    you will also have a crapload more light gathering than any small lens telescope can hope to have, giving you better star views and even seeing color very well.

    http://www.telescope.com/control/product/~category_id=dobsonians/~pcategory=telescopes/~product_id=08943 is a PERECT beginners telescope. it works fantastic and does not have the crapload of problems and poor viewing that anythign smaller would have.

    Also if it can be bought from walmart or radio shack or even elder beerman, it's crap. do not buy it.

    I have one of those and the 12" big brother to it. the 8" I loan out all the time to people interested in astronomy and they freak out when they look at saturn and see the rings seperated from the planet unlike a lesser scope can do.

    the only drawback is a 8" scope can BLIND YOU if you observe the moon without filters.

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  4. Re:More info for IYA2009 by Bios_Hakr · · Score: 4, Informative

    Here are some events to look at this year:

    http://www.seasky.org/astronomy/astronomy_calendar_2009.html

    Most can be seen with a simple pair of binoculars. Probably better off with those than with the $100 wal-mart telescope.

    And back in the day, there used to be a daily email service with things to look at every night. Unfortunately, I can't find it now...

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  5. At sea? by Civil_Disobedient · · Score: 4, Funny

    Well if you have money take your telescope and get out to sea somewhere.

    Yeah, and you can bring a grandfather clock to keep time. And if you're bored, you can bring along a Jenga set. Everyone loves boat Jenga.

  6. Re:Stop calling the man by his first name by buchner.johannes · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Interesting.
    They say:

    From: pinkfreud-ga on 30 Mar 2005 10:31 PST

    It's quite common for historical figures to be mentioned by their
    first names. Rembrandt, Napoleon, Dante, and Leonardo come to mind.

    ...

    From: waukon-ga on 26 May 2005 14:30 PDT

    There is a cutoff date (and I forget exactly when, but basically at
    the start of the baroque period) where one starts calling European
    historical figures by their last names. Michaelangelo Buonorotti is
    referred to by his first name, but Michaelangelo Caravaggio is
    referred to by his last.

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  7. Not exactly a planet-sized radio telescope by Mal-2 · · Score: 4, Interesting

    While the resolution of a large array can be similar to one gigantic dish, this does not mean it is as sensitive. No matter how spread the array, it is (at best) only as sensitive as the sum of its individual elements. What is nice though is that as some sites rotate out of the array, others can be brought online, which allows for continuous monitoring of a single patch of space. Even a giant array in the desert like the VLA is not capable of performing this feat since it is still just one point as far as the planet is concerned.

    Mal-2

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  8. Re:not higher magnification ? by mbone · · Score: 4, Informative

    Yes, this aperture synthesis is done to increase resolution, not sensitivity. In fact, all known radio sources have a finite size for VLBI (because of the inverse compton effect), and so source brightness starts to decline as baselines go towards two Earth radii. While VLBI has been done from space, if we placed a VLBI antenna on (say) Mars, there would almost certainly be no source visible on Earth-Mars baselines for any obtainable antenna size.