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Earth's Radio Telescopes Combining Forces
Slatterz writes "I own a basic 70mm telescope, which I'm sure Galileo would have given his right arm for in 1609. In fact, this year marks exactly 400 years since Galileo first pointed a telescope at the skies — discovering the moons of Jupiter and helping to prove that the universe doesn't revolve around us. As a mark of respect, the United Nations has declared 2009 the International Year of Astronomy. Official festivities kick off this week in Paris and, to help start the celebrations, 17 radio telescopes in Australia, Asia, Europe and the Americas will track three quasars using something called "real-time Very Long Baseline Interferometry" — basically creating hi-res images by combining their data to simulate a telescope as large as the Earth. Sounds cool."
the United Nations has declared 2009 the International Year of Astronomy. Official festivities kick off this week in Paris and, to help start the celebrations ... a giant light display and a firework!
Since the 1970s telescopes from all over the world (and even in Earth orbit) have been combined to perform Very Long Baseline Interferometry. Data received at each antenna is paired with timing information, usually from a local atomic clock, and then stored for later analysis on magnetic tape or hard disk. At that later time, the data is correlated with data from other antennas similarly recorded, to produce the resulting image. Using this method it is possible to synthesise an antenna that is effectively the size of the Earth. The large distances between the telescopes enable very high angular resolutions to be achieved, much greater in fact than in any other field of astronomy. At the highest frequencies, synthesised beams less than 1 milliarcsecond are possible.
Any life is made up of a single moment, the moment in which a man finds out, once and for all, who he is.
This is called eVLBI, and it is now done routinely to, e.g., determine the Earth's rotation (UT1).
From a networking standpoint, one interesting thing is that eVLBI requires high bandwidth (1 Gbps is typical), but can tolerate fairly high loss rates (because the actual cross correlation coefficients are rarely as high as 10^-3). This makes it an excellent candidate for an Internet scavenger service, where packets are sent at "less than best effort," i.e., with the understanding that they can be dropped if there is any congestion at all, so that eVLBI can use all available bandwidth without choking out other uses. The same technology may prove to be very useful for P2P services.
Dont get a crappy scope. it will simply discourage you.
go to orion at http://www.telescope.com/control/main/ and buy a 8" dobsonian.
you will see things that the guys that have the cheap crap cant.
you will also have a crapload more light gathering than any small lens telescope can hope to have, giving you better star views and even seeing color very well.
http://www.telescope.com/control/product/~category_id=dobsonians/~pcategory=telescopes/~product_id=08943 is a PERECT beginners telescope. it works fantastic and does not have the crapload of problems and poor viewing that anythign smaller would have.
Also if it can be bought from walmart or radio shack or even elder beerman, it's crap. do not buy it.
I have one of those and the 12" big brother to it. the 8" I loan out all the time to people interested in astronomy and they freak out when they look at saturn and see the rings seperated from the planet unlike a lesser scope can do.
the only drawback is a 8" scope can BLIND YOU if you observe the moon without filters.
Do not look at laser with remaining good eye.
For more information, the website for all of the events in the International Year of Astronomy is here. It really is amazing what you can see when you get away from light pollution.
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Have some respect and call him Galilei. Do people say "Albert's theory of relativity"?
My contribution to the IYA2009 is two fold.
First, I'll be speaking at least twice this year on astronomy to the public. Once at my local library, next week actually on the Winter Constellation, and then again this summer at the local Audubon Society on Binocular Astronomy. Places like these are hungry for smart people like us to talk to the public about our passion.
The second is that I've vowed to get out and do more public observing. This is where you setup your telescope in a busy place, like in a square downtown, and exhort the public to "Come see the Moon!" You can read about one of my adventures last year at http://notthepainter.com/2008/07/come-see-the-moon/ . You can even do outreach to your friends, I've auctioned off star parties at a charity auction, and I brought my telescope to Thanksgiving dinner!
The point is, this is the year that you, the astronomer, should try and make a difference. (Oh, and for those who think you need to be super experienced to do it, you don't, I've been doing this almost 2 years now, hmm, maybe 3, I've been having so much fun I forget.)
What strikes me as funny as if there was/is a God he must have a fantastically disgusting mean streak. Technically it was the Church under the Pope that like burned Gallelio right? The same Church who God supposedly told he would honor the decisions they make down here. So if the Pope condemned Gallelio to hell for telling the truth then he would be there being flayed constantly.
Of course there are other ways you can take that, but since we're talking 100% hypothetical BS I figured I'd be lazy and take the wordings at face value. Alternate beliefs and theories include bits like that "promise" being bullshit by the Church so they can keep power, or God telling lies to people down here and doing whatever He wants up there, etc etc.
Slightly less off topic though I've always wondered what past great scientists would do with modern technology. I blame Star Trek for putting the idea in my head, what with Data and his holodeck friends of Einstein, Freud, Edison and so forth. I wonder if in some cases if these "greats" are only great because they had primitive tools and were more adept at using those and would be considered mediocre if they had modern gear and knew how to use it.
After all, using an IR or Radio telescope is different than using an optical one.
Well if you have money take your telescope and get out to sea somewhere.
Yeah, and you can bring a grandfather clock to keep time. And if you're bored, you can bring along a Jenga set. Everyone loves boat Jenga.
Really, it all comes down to what's known as Fourier optics. In the far field from a distant source, the mutual coherence (cross-correlation) of the light is the 2-D Fourier transform of the original image, through the van Cittert-Zernike theorem. If you're at all familiar with FTs, the components further from the origin correspond to the highest frequencies. So a larger telescope (essentially an analog IFT in this way of thinking, simulating propogating the wave pattern back to the source) is able to cross-correlate the light between the two furthest points on the aperture, allowing you to take into account higher frequency ranges, and get higher resolution.(1)
Therefore, there are two reasons for increasing a telescopes size:
1. You collect more photons, improving signal quality
2. You increase the resolution as you're able to gather more components of the Fourier band. This is limited on Earth due to the seeing effects of the atmosphere, unless you start dealing with adaptive optics.
This kind of work, using multiple apertures to synthesize a much larger one, gets you the second result without much help on the first, but at a much cheaper price. By manually taking the cross-correlations(2), you can get a map of the Fourier field of the image and computationally compute the original image from it.
(1) This is also why blockages over parts of the aperture don't have an obvious effect.
(2) which is why this only works with radio, optical frequencies are much too high to record the actual waveform, so physical beam transmission is necessary over carefully controlled (to 10 nanometers) path lengths.
While the resolution of a large array can be similar to one gigantic dish, this does not mean it is as sensitive. No matter how spread the array, it is (at best) only as sensitive as the sum of its individual elements. What is nice though is that as some sites rotate out of the array, others can be brought online, which allows for continuous monitoring of a single patch of space. Even a giant array in the desert like the VLA is not capable of performing this feat since it is still just one point as far as the planet is concerned.
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How is the Riemann zeta function like Trump rallies? Both have an endless number of trivial zeros.
Yes, this aperture synthesis is done to increase resolution, not sensitivity. In fact, all known radio sources have a finite size for VLBI (because of the inverse compton effect), and so source brightness starts to decline as baselines go towards two Earth radii. While VLBI has been done from space, if we placed a VLBI antenna on (say) Mars, there would almost certainly be no source visible on Earth-Mars baselines for any obtainable antenna size.
But Englishman Thomas Harriot made the first drawing of the moon after looking through a telescope several months before Galileo, in July 1609. http://www.space.com/scienceastronomy/090114-first-moon-map.html