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Barack Obama Sworn In As 44th President of the US

Just before noon today, Eastern time, Barack Obama was sworn in before the US Capitol building as the 44th President of the United States (Whitehouse.gov has already been updated to reflect the new President), and offered an inaugural address which outlined some of the challenges that the country currently faces, both within the country's borders and abroad. Obama's election has been called "a civil rights triumph," and his candidacy has inspired perhaps the most visible political involvement of young voters of any candidate since John Kennedy. Here's your chance to discuss the newest occupant of the White House and what you'd like to see happen over the course of his presidency.

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  1. Government shrunk to its Constitutional tasks only by XanC · · Score: 5, Insightful

    ...not going to happen, under this or any administration I fear.

  2. As Spock once said by Vinegar+Joe · · Score: 5, Insightful

    "After a time, you may find that 'having' is not so pleasing a thing, after all, as 'wanting.' It is not logical, but it is often true."

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  3. Fantastic by pz · · Score: 5, Insightful

    He used the words "data" and "statistics" in his inaugural address in a positive tone, without being the slightest bit derisive. He said that he would, "restore science to its rightful place." There is hope for the US.

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    1. Re:Fantastic by Shadow+Wrought · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Indeed. Plus its nice having a president who doesn't embarrass you when publicly speaking.

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  4. Already a victory by Bemopolis · · Score: 5, Insightful

    He acknowledged that nonbelievers are American citizens, and reaffirmed the separation of church/state and science.

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    1. Re:Already a victory by hansamurai · · Score: 5, Insightful

      All right, now how about the separation of corporation and state?

    2. Re:Already a victory by gslj · · Score: 5, Insightful

      I noticed an odd fact in the prayer before the inaugurations. The qualities ascribed to God were that he is "one" and he is "compassionate." This seems to be a subtle reaching out to Muslims right there, since those are the qualities of God emphasized in Islam: "In the name of Allah, the Merciful, the Compassionate. Say (O Muhammad), He is God, the One God, the Everlasting Refuge, who has not begotten, nor has been begotten, and equal to Him is not anyone." He could have mentioned salvation or the Trinity or other divisive attributes instead. When he does mention Jesus, he gives the name in several languages including, I think, Arabic. Probably to remind Americans that Jesus is not a property of the U.S. and remind Muslims that the prophet Jesus is honoured in Islam. Finally, he ends with the Lord's Prayer which, as well as being blessedly short, is something that no Christian denomination has trouble with.

      Just an observation: the reaching out to Muslims started before the Inaugural Speech.

      -Gareth

  5. Re:Government shrunk to its Constitutional tasks o by StreetStealth · · Score: 5, Insightful

    We can't have a perfect union. But we can still try to make it a more perfect one, right?

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  6. Re:I tried to watch, by Necroman · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I did the the old fashion way, and went home for a bit and watched on my TV. It's times like this where the internet just isn't setup to handle. TV is great at distributing the same stream to million and millions of people. While the Internet is built around the concept of everyone having a unique connection to services.

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  7. Re:So ... change ... by cowscows · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I think one of the most amazing things about it all is how the replacement of one individual can really change the mood of so many people. Not just in the USA, but in the whole world. It's incredible how despite of all the bad decisions made over the previous administration, citizens of so many other countries are willing to give America the benefit of the doubt.

    I believe that we should show some gratitude for that willingness to forgive, and we can express that gratitude by tempering our cynicism, and giving the new administration a decent chance to try some things. I think that a large portion of the country is willing to do so, hopefully the obstructionists can be drowned out by people who still feel that it's worthwhile to be hopeful.

    But either way, if Obama tries to do even 5% of what he's said he wants to do, I'm having a hard time imagining how things could be run much worse than what we've survived through for the past eight years.

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  8. Re:And then,... by Anonymusing · · Score: 5, Insightful

    The real question for Obama voters -- will he still respect us in the morning?

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  9. You're either with us or against us... by grassy_knoll · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Be happy. be hopeful. Or shut up and let the rest of us be happy and hopeful.

    Sounds rather like "You're either with us or against us... "

    Meet the new boss.
    Same as the old boss.

  10. Transportation Safety by Jonah+Bomber · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I think the thing I'd most like to see is a tempering of the utter insanity that is the TSA. We aren't safer because we have to take off our shoes to board an airplane. We aren't safer because we make pilots go through metal detectors. We aren't safer because we're now required to having a driver's license to fly. We aren't safer because we aren't allowed to take our toothpaste (except in teeny tiny tubes) with us. The TSA spends so much time and energy policing our shampoo container size that it can't help but detract from their ability to actually catch potential bombs. Obama has spoken about changing our foreign response to September 11th, but I'd like to see a change in our domestic response as well. I'd like to see more common sense.

  11. Re:Way to go Chief Justice John G. Roberts by jdgeorge · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Okay, I'm not a Roberts fan, but let's be real. The Roberts administered the oath, got nervous, Obama handled it gracefully, and the job is done. Roberts goes back to not having to speak in front of a ridiculously large number people.

    I expect that the abuse Roberts will get from Antonin Scalia alone will be more than enough punishment for getting nervous while administering the oath.

    Good job Obama for being cool and on task.

  12. End Prohibition 2.0/legalize marijuana/hemp by Mashhaster · · Score: 5, Insightful

    That's what I want to see. Too long has the government attempted to fight the free market by throwing money at enforcement. We've spent too many billions on punishing otherwise nonviolent, law-abiding taxpayers. For all the time and treasure we've spent, is there any end in sight? Is there anyone who believes that drug enforcement is reducing the demand for drugs?

    In Mexico right now, we've got drug cartels fighting a paramilitary war with the police and Mexican army; that's ongoing. In California, we have national parks and public water supplies being polluted by unregulated growing operations.

    We have an out of control national debt, and an opportunity to create a domestic industry, tax it, and stop spending the billions on enforcing these out of date laws. Pretending what we're doing is working, or pretending the problem doesn't exist, doesn't change the facts of the situation. The longer we wait, the more powerful the organized crime syndicates get (just like the mob during alcohol prohibition).

    Tax it, regulate it, don't sell it to minors, and bust people for driving under the influence of it. Just stop pretending you can beat it by cracking down on suppliers or users; supply exists where demand exists, and demand will always exist, because people are human.

    Don't forget industrial hemp, too, because there's a lot that could be done with it. That would be a huge boon to the country, especially considering that we need new energy mediums and materials for various applications; hemp has one of the longest track records in human civilization as a useful industrial material, and prohibiting it because of marijuana is simply pointless.

    That's why I want to see Prohibition 2.0 (hemp/marijuana) ended. I'd also like to see a complete end to the War on Drugs, because like the War on Terror, it's not a war we can ever win. But, that's another post for another time.

  13. Re:Government shrunk to its Constitutional tasks o by RyuuzakiTetsuya · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Unfortunately, the constitution is VAGUE.

    It doesn't even outline what the supreme court is supposed to do. What strict constitutionalists fail to realize is that the constitution is not a document written by a group of well meaning men with no political bias or agenda. Quite the opposite, it's the product of intense political bargaining. the 3/5ths Majority, the Missouri compromise, the commerce compromise... This document that we are governed by is meant to try to appease both federalists(with clauses stating that Congress has the power to provide for "general welfare" as well to do everything "necessary and proper" to do that. This is balanced by the 10th amendment placating antifederalists. The founding fathers did not have you in mind when they wrote the Constitution, they had their own interests and agendas in mind.

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  14. Optionally by coryking · · Score: 5, Insightful

    We know what the constitution, read literally, says. We just disagree what it actually *means*.

    My interpretation? The constitution is the framework in which we have debates in this country. It defines *how* we deal things, not *what* those things we deal with should be.

    There is nothing in the constitution about stem cell research, but the constitution will tell us the proper way to resolve the controversies brought forward by its advances. The constitution tells us the president cannot write a law that bans it, the congress writes said law and passes it to the president for approval. The constitution doesn't say "no stem cell research". Same with gay marriage. Same with giving blacks and women the right to vote. The constitution only provides us a process to follow, not the solution.

    1. Re:Optionally by ClassMyAss · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Gays already have the same rights everyone else has, they can marry a person of the opposite sex. The blacks and so on were actually barred from marrying into interracial marriages at one time which is completely different then gay marriage. As long as a Gay man can do what a straight man can do (marry someone of the opposite sex) then they have the same rights. Lesbians are the same (marry a man). The fact that they don't want to or want to do something else. The 14th doesn't apply to that situation.

      By your exact same logic, banning interracial marriage is Just Fine, since black men have exactly the same rights as white men - they can marry someone of their own race.

      Lucky for us, it was quickly decided that the way that is phrased is ridiculous, as it's always possible to put some "separate but equal" bullshit spin on any sort of discrimination to make it sound like it's fair.

      In other words, you're arguing against your own point by making the connection to interracial marriage (which, by the way, is exactly the comparison we should be making, IMO, as the situations are depressingly similar). The question that we should be asking is "Can gay men do what straight women can do?", not "Can gay men do what straight men can do?"

      In any case, the government should get the hell out of the marriage business anyways, and only offer civil unions. And yes, these should be offered to any adult, regardless of sex or preference, and probably regardless of prior arrangements (in other words, yup, the government probably should allow polygamous civil unions, apart from religious objections there's really no reason the contractual engagements such a thing implies should be limited to one pairing per person). Leave marriage as a religious commitment, which is what it really should be. Then the religious aspect of the debate can be settled in its proper place, on a church-by-church basis, with no spillover into the rest of the country.

      Of course, since that will never happen, the only reasonable solution is to allow gays to marry. And yes, this would seem to imply that the next slide down the slope would be polygamy, but fear not - polygamists are so underrepresented in this country (plus they're too intimately related to child polygamists) that they'll never be able to kick up enough fuss to get their way. But trust me, even if gay marriage is not settled in favor of the gays within the next 10 years or so, it will happen within 20 or 30 - the generation coming up right now just doesn't hold the same anti-gay sentiment that their parents still do, much like their parents didn't hold the same level of anti-black sentiment that their parents did.

      There will be holdouts and they'll complain about their rights (um...the "right" not to be disgusted by seeing people doing things they think are immoral, I suppose?) being trampled, but they'll just have to learn to deal with it, and soon enough they'll die off and the rest of the people will never look back. Within a couple generations, people will look back with amusement on the fact that we even had to have this discussion.

  15. Re:I am already so tired ... by east+coast · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I agree and find it odd that the media has gone on and on about it while invoking MLK at the same time. Personally I think MLK would be disappointed that minority voters only felt compelled to stand up and have their votes counted because the candidate was of a minority race. I think King's real dream was that people didn't let the race aspect hold them back from being a participant in the system. Just like I'm sure he'd frown on the idea that people used the excuse of finally having a minority in the White House be a reason they suddenly feel they could do anything. People who really get his message should have felt this way all along.

    I just don't see this as the milestone the media claims it is and I'd like to think if Dr. King was alive today he'd agree with me on this.

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  16. Re:Government shrunk to its Constitutional tasks o by rolfwind · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Did you have something in particular in mind? I ask because a lot of "limit the government" types have curious ideas about what the constitution authorizes and forbids.

    It really depends if you what view of the commerce and general welfare clauses, as well as the enumerated powers being exhaustive.

    "Curious" isn't the view. They limited-government types are interested in a limited government. Too often, when society changed to the point that some people view government powers need expansion, necessitating a Constitutional amendment, they opt instead to ignore/reinterpret the founding document. This has two effect: that part of the document is neutered by the rerouting and the document becomes more distant to current realities instead of being amended in a sufficient manner - so that once it's proposed to follow it, the old interpretation seems "quaint" and out-of-touch.

    I'm not sure about you, but I think government running a trillion dollar deficit, bailing out businesses/people left and right is hardly limited.

  17. Re:Will anything really change? by truthsearch · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I don't need a government telling me I should wear a seat belt

    But do you want a government who will make sure there's a hospital to fix your broken skull? And a government who will make sure there's quick transportation and trained EMTs?

  18. Re:The Naivete of Hope by gmcraff · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I was told dissent is patriotic.

    I dissented with some things (rather vigorously) during the 43rd Presidency. I dissented with a lot of things during the 42nd Presidency.

    The 44th President is going to get my dissent as well.

    Welcome to the United States of America. I can see you just arrived.

  19. Re:The Naivete of Hope by readin · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Yes, I know it's a bold thing to liken Obama to Kennedy and King but, I'm sorry, I get flashes of both great men when I watch Obama speak. He possesses an enormous amount of charisma and motivates people and fills them with hope.

    If you believe he's just another politician; if you believe he's going to be a big flop and disappoint and all that garbage, do yourself a favour and, more importantly, do everyone around you a favour and shut up. Keep your thoughts to yourself. You're allowed to have them and I won't take that away from you but, at a time when people are filled with hope and idealism, let them be. Don't try to shatter that hope.

    Sure he inspires. Yes King inspired. Kennedy inspired. So did Mussolini and Jim Jones. They also filled people with hope.

    The fact that he talks well doesn't imply good or evil. It merely makes him more capable of doing whichever he chooses to do. I hope you don't mind if I keep my eyes and mind open, and speak when I see things happening that disturb me. A failure to speak up can shatter hope too.

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  20. Re:The Naivete of Hope by oodaloop · · Score: 5, Insightful

    He possesses an enormous amount of charisma and motivates people and fills them with hope.

    So do faithhealers, used car salesmen, and other con artists. I purposely avoided listening to the speeches of Obama, McCain, and the man for whom I ultimately voted, Nader, so I was not swayed by their charisma. I read speeches the day after, and Obama's have just been vague ramblings about hope and change with absolutely no substance. When you remove his gazes, body language, and pauses-for-effect, there's just nothing left. There was even an article on here a while back about how researches measured "spin" (ie, lying) and found Obama to have the most in his speeches.

    I have instead looked at their actions, or lack thereof in Obama's case. He's done little to nothing of significance in his career besides be black and has consistently supported the rights and interests of corporations over the interests of the American people. For those of you who think he's to going to make great changes, please point to ONE thing he has done, not said.

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  21. Re:The Naivete of Hope by east+coast · · Score: 5, Insightful

    He possesses an enormous amount of charisma and motivates people and fills them with hope

    So did Hitler.

    Being a great public speaker doesn't make someone automagically a great person.

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  22. Re:Where do we turn in our guns? by Moraelin · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I didn't catch that, where is the gun turn-in done?

    You know, that's one of the funny things I see when looking at America from some thousands of kilometres away.

    So supposedly, the sacred right to bear arms is there to keep the government in line, in case it oversteps its constitutional bounds. Lemme see, the Bushies did:

    - effectively suspending habeas corpus,

    - used torture,

    - starting a war of aggression, and justified it by

    - outright lying about the evidence, (plus, see two paragraphs above, it turns out that all the "witnesses" they had, had been waterboarded until they said what the Bushies wanted to hear,)

    - massive surveillace of its own citizens, down to data-mining grocery bills,

    - politicizing every branch of the government they could lay their hands on,

    - trying to keep official emails from the _legal_ mandated openness, by using private accounts for government business, or by just making excuses (apparently they didn't make backups, ya know)

    - saying out loud that the constitution is just a piece of paper and doesn't apply to them,

    Etc.

    Did I see the gun-loving right at least hinting about the possibility of a revolt over it? (Yes, at the end of the series of other boxes, but still.) Nah, they voted for him again.

    But here comes a president which at least promises to undo some of that evil, and restore at least _some_ of those constitutional rights. (Whether he'll keep that promise, remains to be seen.) What does the gun-loving right immediately fear? "OMG, he might take our guns away."

    It seems to me that the gun lovers care _only_ about exactly _one_ piece of the constitution: the second amendment. No more, no less. Wipe your ass with the rest constitution if you will, they sure won't mind it. So exactly how does that work as a constitutional safeguard, then?

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  23. Re:B. Hussein Obama, first impressions by AviLazar · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Why should he be denied what the previous guy in office, who helped get us to this mess, got?

    It's also paid for by private funds - not tax dollars.

    It also generates revenue (tourism dollars, media ad buys, etc)

    It also makes people happy to see the president they elect take the oath

    It also lets the world know there is a new sheriff in town.

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  24. Re:And thus begans the eternal debate by corsec67 · · Score: 5, Insightful

    My opinion? We simply cannot be competitive as a nation with a "weak" federal government in concert with "strong" state governments.

    In that case, then the 10th amendment should be changed, not ignored. It is bad to have laws, and especially parts of the constitution, that are ignored.

    Just saying that the 10th amendment doesn't really apply to the current world is a bad precidient. Does that mean that congress can start making laws abridging the freedom of speech, establish a state religion, since we can't be "competitive" with those restrictions on the federal government?

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  25. Welcome back, America by Jacques+Chester · · Score: 5, Insightful

    We missed you.

    Love,

    The Rest of The Modern World.

    ps. Any chance you could have a word with Australia about internet censorship? That'd be swell.

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    1. Re:Welcome back, America by Jacques+Chester · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Ah I see. You only like us when we have the people YOU want in office. In other words, do what we tell you or we won't be your friend.

      Ever had a female friend in love with a total douchebag? Noticed how you drifted apart, how you couldn't understand what she saw in this total wanker? Isn't it great when she comes to her senses?

      You sir seem to be stuck at the "but he really looooves meeeeee, nobody understaaaaands, they should leave us aloooone and stop interfering!" stage of the relationship.

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  26. Re:Time by prgrmr · · Score: 5, Insightful

    FDR did not take us out of the Depression. Japan did that when they bombed Pearl Harbor and gave the nation motivation to start building tanks and planes and ships and bombs non-stop for the next three years.

  27. Re:Time by hedwards · · Score: 5, Insightful

    How is this informative? The Clinton staffers didn't do it at all. It was thoroughly debunked within a month of the allegations coming out. And former President George W Bush himself stated specifically that it did not happen.

    What do we need as evidence? A specific letter from Dick Cheney that it didn't happen? The not signed with the blood of former AG John Ashcroft? At some point it becomes paranoid delusion, and I think we've hit that point.

  28. Re:Time by $1uck · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Someone mod parent up please. I hate it when people try to claim WWII got us out of the depression. I mean should we be thankful we have the Afghan and Iraq war? If it weren't for those two wars, would the economy really be in the shitter? I think not.