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Cellphone Networks Survive Inauguration, Mostly

nandemoari writes "Everybody was talking about Barack Obama's inauguration on Tuesday morning, and it showed. According to reports, a number of mobile phone networks faced overload circumstances that day until late afternoon, when the chat sessions finally began to dissipate. Having the most trouble that morning appears to have been T-Mobile, and AT&T also had some difficulty that morning."

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  1. All circuits are busy now by GigaHurtsMyRobot · · Score: 5, Funny

    Please try first post again later.

    1. Re:All circuits are busy now by bytethese · · Score: 1

      Damn, I kept refreshing but I can't seem to get through to first post. Maybe if I keep posting I'll be WSDT's 106th poster. What do I win??

  2. Improving networks by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Why are service providers in the USA so averse to improving their networks? Broadband in the USA is extremely slow, and this shows that even the cell towers are inadequate.

    1. Re:Improving networks by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Informative

      Why would they build a network capable of handling extreme peaks in usage? It's much less wasteful for them to do quick fixes (CoW, etc.) during the times they need it than to build that capacity into the network.

    2. Re:Improving networks by JCSoRocks · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Why do people assume it's so easy to magically improve the infrastructure of the entire US? Have you compared the size of America to the size of Europe or Japan? The lower 48 are huge even without including Alaska. I want faster broadband and improved cell phone coverage too but lets be realistic. We're a bit bigger than Japan / insert-random-euro-country-that-we-should-be-like.

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    3. Re:Improving networks by jellomizer · · Score: 1

      Russia? That is a good side. I dont know about their network though.

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    4. Re:Improving networks by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

      red herring. if thats true than explain why cell service is as crappy in Manhattan than in bumsticks OK.
       

    5. Re:Improving networks by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Interesting

      Canada. Russia. Northern Europe. All countries have similar population density.

    6. Re:Improving networks by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

      I don't care what the Risk board says, Northern Europe is NOT a country.

    7. Re:Improving networks by MobileTatsu-NJG · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Why do people assume it's so easy to magically improve the infrastructure of the entire US?

      Critcism makes us appear smarter. I remember one time there was a story about a 55x CD burner being the fastest one available at the time. I sarcastically said something like "why do we need faster burners? All you have to do is wait longer!" and was modded Insightful.

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    8. Re:Improving networks by R2.0 · · Score: 2, Funny

      Why do people assume it's so easy to magically improve the infrastructure of the entire US? Have you compared the size of America to the size of Europe or Japan? The lower 48 are huge even without including Alaska. I want faster broadband and improved cell phone coverage too but lets be realistic. We're a bit bigger than Japan / insert-random-euro-country-that-we-should-be-like.

      Puh-lease. It's as simple as adding a line item in the upcoming stimulus plan. A few billion extra dollars isn't going to break the bank. And it will create jobs - high paying, stable jobs. And it will also help revive our education system.

      And, I'll get a pony in the bargain.

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    9. Re:Improving networks by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Interesting

      Because New York City is run buy a collection of corrupt thugs that like to tax and stagnate things. You can't have a tower somewhere a condo is going to be built. Plus you always have to brib...go through the proper channels and get the proper permits. Doing anything in New York City without wasting a shitload of money is impossible. Don't expect it to get any better there with a self-righteous mayor, a wimpy Governor, and the city council sold to the highest bidder.

    10. Re:Improving networks by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

      IIRC, when I modded your comment insightful, I was also being sarcastic.

    11. Re:Improving networks by FrostDust · · Score: 1

      All three of those regions are rather close to the arctic circle. Although the population density of the country may be similar, I'd venture a guess and say that most of the people are rather concentrated in major cities (or, in Canada, along the southern border).

      In the US, the population is more widely dispersed than in these three areas. In other words, we have more people living in "the middle of nowhere" than they do, and our major cities are more separated as well.

    12. Re:Improving networks by Abreu · · Score: 1

      Really? How about Western Australia? Should I consider another base?

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    13. Re:Improving networks by Dan541 · · Score: 1

      yet your only slightly bigger than Australia which has a population of just 21 Million and our phone service doesn't suck.

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    14. Re:Improving networks by BitZtream · · Score: 1

      You are entirely correct.

      However, the mobile providers also get goverment subsidies and make profits that would make any retailer sell his soul to get 10% of what they make.

      America is larger and harder to cover with cells than most of Europe, our providers also make FAR FAR more than they need to for the investment in infrastructure upgrades to be considered sane. Theres no excuse for the service we get out of mobile providers in the states.

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    15. Re:Improving networks by Albanach · · Score: 2, Insightful

      That excuse is fine in the really sparse states, but most the people don't live in those really sparse areas and yet still many are left with poor service and little choice.

      If you compare VA and Scotland you get a broadly similar area. Population sizes are within 15%. VA has high population density in NoVA, Scotland has it in the Central Belt.

      Scotland has 99% ADSL coverage with a wide choice of providers, right down to many sparsely populated island communities. The Government is investing to fill in the empty areas.

      Cell phone coverage is almost ubiquitous in any medium sized village and along every major road. The cities have decent 3G coverage from multiple providers and that is now extending to the smaller towns with populations around 20k.

      The same is decidedly not true in Virginia. I'm not suggesting Scotland is an IT utopia, there are certainly improvements that can be made. Nor is it the only available example, other European countries offer similar or better.

      But yes, parts of the US are lagging other similarly sized, populated and developed countries.

    16. Re:Improving networks by jimpop · · Score: 1

      > Why would they build a network capable
      > of handling extreme peaks in usage?

      Large scale emergencies?

    17. Re:Improving networks by cheater512 · · Score: 1

      Yeah but its sad when Australia beats you at broadband and mobile coverage. :P

      Ahh the benefits of having a consumer and competition comission.

    18. Re:Improving networks by ryguy · · Score: 2, Funny

      So they should build out their network in every city in America to be able to handle an emergency that has 2 million people coming to the area for a 2 day period? That seems logical...

    19. Re:Improving networks by mgblst · · Score: 1

      Australia is the same size as mainland US, and it has 8% of the population.

      Go whinge somewhere else.

    20. Re:Improving networks by MobyTurbo · · Score: 1

      My service on Sprint in Brooklyn was fine during the inauguration. I tried to watch it on Sprint TV via CNN and it failed to connect though, I did manage to get streaming audio from WNYC however and heard it all on the phone.

    21. Re:Improving networks by jimpop · · Score: 1

      2m in 2d might seem extreme, but it was shown to be possible 2d ago. Should we set a design goal of 640k?

    22. Re:Improving networks by Random+Destruction · · Score: 1

      True that. Who could have possibly anticipated such a large gathering in this unremarkable city?

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    23. Re:Improving networks by NateTech · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Israel's cell phone system is engineered to this type of standard. Every time the rockets hit, everyone checks in with loved ones to see if they're alright.

      It's really only the U.S. that has major overload issues when bad things happen. In places where bad things happen more often, their networks tend to be built to handle it.

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    24. Re:Improving networks by Zebedeu · · Score: 2, Interesting

      It's really only the U.S. that has major overload issues when bad things happen

      Depends on the point of view, I guess, but Obama being inaugurated wouldn't qualify as a bad thing :-)

      I come from a country where bad things don't happen on a regular basis, but the network here also basically fails every new year's eve, for example, when everyone's calling and messaging every friend they have to give their wishes. In fact I can't even think of another yearly event where the network fails. Maybe christmas eve?

      Basically it all comes down to the economics of investing and maintaining a network which is only used to its full capacity once or twice in a year, and for reasons which, frankly, can wait.

      I guess it makes much more sense to make that investment in a place like Israel.

  3. You can thank the COWs by damn_registrars · · Score: 4, Informative

    Seriously, the Cell on Wheels installations were part of what made it possible to handle the extra traffic.

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    1. Re:You can thank the COWs by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

      Q: What did the police man say to the CoW?

      A: You're blocking the view of the President. Mooooove along!

      (Yes, it's so bad I had to post anonymously out of shame.)

    2. Re:You can thank the COWs by powerlord · · Score: 3, Funny

      Seriously, the Cell on Wheels installations were part of what made it possible to handle the extra traffic.

      Aha! I didn't RTFA but no doubt the Dept. of Homeland Security was involved in finding all those Cells.

      I hope they detained them for further questioning, although I still don't understand why the terrorists were using Heelys.

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    3. Re:You can thank the COWs by gEvil+(beta) · · Score: 3, Funny

      Q: What did the police man say to the CoW?

      Mu?

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    4. Re:You can thank the COWs by gandhi_2 · · Score: 0, Offtopic
    5. Re:You can thank the COWs by gEvil+(beta) · · Score: 1

      That's the one.

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  4. Verizon by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Interesting

    Just another example of the pros and cons of different companies in the cell phone market. I went to the Inauguration with my Verizon phone, and had no trouble making a few calls or texting people right from the mall.

    On the other hand, I am still trying to find a way to get away from Verizon and onto AT&T or T-Mobile, because their phones are mediocre, customer service is below par, and they restrict their devices.

    It's all about what you want to sacrifice when buying a phone - a wide network and more call/text service, or a better device that is on an open platform.

    1. Re:Verizon by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Informative

      Um, couldn't you just buy your own device and use whatever carrier you want?

    2. Re:Verizon by morgan_greywolf · · Score: 2, Informative

      On the other hand, I am still trying to find a way to get away from Verizon and onto AT&T or T-Mobile, because their phones are mediocre, customer service is below par, and they restrict their devices.

      And AT&T and T-Mobile don't restrict their devices?

    3. Re:Verizon by morgan_greywolf · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Um, couldn't you just buy your own device and use whatever carrier you want?

      Not from the U.S., I take it?

    4. Re:Verizon by R2.0 · · Score: 1

      Um, couldn't you just buy your own device and use whatever carrier you want?

      Not from the U.S., I take it?

      In the US you absolutely CAN buy your own device and hook it up to whatever carrier covers the system (GSM, EDGE, etc.) It's the law. What you CANNOT do is buy a supercool smartphone for the (subsidized) price of $99.99 - you have to buy at list.

      It's not that Americans are being shafted because they can't get out of contracts they agreed to, but that we're addicted to having the latest phone and paying little for it.

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    5. Re:Verizon by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You can use any unlocked device on an AT&T or T-Mobile network. No asking, begging, or pleading with support to get your phone on their network. It usually only takes adding a SIM card and you're good to go. Also I believe that after a fixed amount of time (at least on T-mobile) they will unlock a t-mobile branded phone for you to use on any other network you want. So i'd say that they are at the very least, less restrictive than Verizon when it comes to that. Also don't forget how Verizon treats bluetooth (no OBEX support) forcing you to send your photos over their network for the cost of a quarter. Verizon is the master of the closed network.

    6. Re:Verizon by gad_zuki! · · Score: 1

      In the US, using Sprint, I buy my own phones and when I try to replace my existing phone I get told "Sir, activating that phone will require a 2 year agreement." What? What the hell? I paid for this thing. Why should I sign a contract? I have no choice so I say yes.

      The problem in the US is that you have no rights with cell phone carriers. I havent gotten a subsidized phone in ages, but Im still locked into contracts. I guess there's always the option of some pay per month crap phone, but I need a smartphone with a unlimited data plan.

      Lots of us are willing to pay full price or buy used phones, but the system is gamed for contract lock-in.

    7. Re:Verizon by morgan_greywolf · · Score: 1

      Okay, but AT&T and T-Mobile won't actually sell you an unlocked phone. You have to buy it 3rd party, which means you're going to be paying full price.

    8. Re:Verizon by Cowmonaut · · Score: 1

      Then A) get a different provider or B) DON'T sign the contract and get a lawyer. Legally they can't keep you from using your own phone you bought if its actually compatible with their system. This is why I love T-Mobile. SIM cards make it easy and you don't even have to bother them with it.

    9. Re:Verizon by colin_young · · Score: 1

      I'm running an unlocked phone on T-Mobile. T-Mobile will give you the unlock code for your phone after you've been with them for some time (I think 3 months), and you can add and delete features (like data plans) at will without contract extensions. I do have to "lie" on my online profile since the phone I own isn't a model they actually carry in the US market in order to make certain features available.

    10. Re:Verizon by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Seconded. I have T-Mobile and use several different models of unlocked phones, including ones from other carriers such as Cingular. Pop in a SIM card and roll. Never had a lick of trouble.

    11. Re:Verizon by CaptCovert · · Score: 1

      The 'compatible with their system' is the rub, unfortunately. If a phone does not support a feature that is available on your contract (My Fave 5, or something akin to that which has a representation on your phone), the carrier could claim that the phone is 'incompatible' and deny service (or require you to enter a contract that does not include My Fave 5).

    12. Re:Verizon by Vegeta99 · · Score: 1

      Not too much. My Tilt (HTC TyTN II) out of the box supports pretty much any format Windows Media Player does out of the box (I can use a full-song MP3 as any sound on the phone, etc). It asks before installing unsigned software, but doesn't care. My net connection is proxied, but i can override it.

      I am, however, banned from the "AT&T Mall". I can't buy ringtones from AT&T BECAUSE my phone is so open - I could share them!

      Find me a Verizon phone that can share its internet connection as a Wi-Fi access point and I'll be impressed! =)

    13. Re:Verizon by acwork2 · · Score: 1

      The good news is in the case of T-Mobile we do not require you to sign a contract to make use of MyFaves. If you are using an unlocked phone that is not "supported" by T-Mobile the MyFaves client will not show up on the phone but you can go online to My.T-Mobile and set your MyFaves. The calls to and from those contacts will then be billed airtime free. They keep their network as open as possible to any unlocked GSM phone and will provide any help they can to setup unlocked phones.

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  5. I would say mitigated by Gates82 · · Score: 2, Interesting
    From what I heard they put up extra towers, and attempted to inform people of the potential problem. Encouraging users to not use the infrastructure is not surviving. If they had survived service would not have been interrupted based in normal use, not a reduction. Obviously I did not RTFA.

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    1. Re:I would say mitigated by iamhigh · · Score: 3, Insightful

      If they had survived service would not have been interrupted based in normal use, not a reduction

      I don't think 2M people in a few square miles all texting, pic/vid messaging, and calling is "normal use".

      Mitigating any *major* issues brought about with extreme usage is survival, to me.

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    2. Re:I would say mitigated by niro5 · · Score: 2, Informative

      People certainly didn't seem to be reducing their usage. I was in area closest to the capitol (the infamous Purple section) and made four or five calls successfully. I generally needed to make two attempts to make it happened, but it always happened. The woman next to me also had Verizon and her phone was ringing...ahem..."off the hizzy" Certainly it wasn't a typical Tuesday on the mall, but I was impressed on how easy it was to make a call. I'd say of all the things that should be improved in the future for large gatherings of humanity, cell reception is probably good enough now to be towards the bottom of the list.

    3. Re:I would say mitigated by DeionXxX · · Score: 1

      Well, it's "normal use" in Manhattan, or Boston, or most downtown areas of major cities (especially in the middle of the work day).

    4. Re:I would say mitigated by jcnnghm · · Score: 2, Insightful

      There weren't even close to 2 million people. In fact it's unclear if the Obama inauguration even surpassed the record of 1.2 million previously set by Lyndon Johnson. This smells just like the "Million Man March", more media perpetuated bullshit.

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    5. Re:I would say mitigated by Deag · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Density of Manhattan is 70,000 per sq mile, Density of Boston is 12,000 per sq mile.

    6. Re:I would say mitigated by Deag · · Score: 3, Interesting

      Ah but was Johnson's one really 1.2 million? How did they get that figure?

      There is a cool satellite image of it all going around, like here, so you imagine someone could eventually come up with a good estimate of yesterdays one.

      How do they estimate crowd sizes anyway, fair enough in a stadium (80,000 seats all full = 80,000 people) but for other things it seems to be bordering on random guessing.

    7. Re:I would say mitigated by gEvil+(beta) · · Score: 2, Insightful

      No idea if it was 1.2M, 1.4M, or 2M (all figures that I've seen reported at various places), but it was easily the largest crowd I have ever seen in one place before. And the fact that there wasn't a single arrest made during all of it just shows how great humanity can be if given the right opportunity.

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    8. Re:I would say mitigated by jcnnghm · · Score: 1

      The National Park Service produced official estimates until 1995, when they were ordered by congress to stop, after being sued by Louis Farrakhan for estimating only 400,000 attended the Million Man March. They're providing official estimates for the size of the inauguration crowd.

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    9. Re:I would say mitigated by profplump · · Score: 1

      Generally you try to estimate the total area covered by crowds, and then estimate the density of the crowd. It's very much a guess, but it can be fairly accurate if you come up with decent density numbers.

    10. Re:I would say mitigated by profplump · · Score: 1

      I suppose I could have mentioned, both the area and density estimates typically come from aerial photographs.

    11. Re:I would say mitigated by Deag · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Right so after staring at the picture I linked to and allowing 2.5 sq foot per person in the crowded bits, I reckon 500,000 on the mall at the time of the picture, there was another 200,000 invited people in the capitol grounds, and then there are the people still crowding the streets. Picture was taken half an hour before and 18th street still looks crowded in that picture. So I don't know 900k in total?

    12. Re:I would say mitigated by nasch · · Score: 1

      I heard that the estimate is the mall holds around 1.0-1.2 million when full. I don't know how accurate that is, but I'm guessing someone who knows more about it than you or I came up with that. ;-)

    13. Re:I would say mitigated by Deag · · Score: 1

      It would depend what is defined as the mall also - Is it just the bit from 3rd street to the Washington monument or do you go all the way to the Lincoln memorial.

    14. Re:I would say mitigated by Greventls · · Score: 1

      I was by the Washington Monument on Sunday and on Tuesday. In either case, I couldn't do anything with my AT&T Blackberry Pearl. Texts, Emails, calls, and internet browsing (google maps) all failed the entire time I was there. It wasn't until the evening that the phone appeared to be running properly.

    15. Re:I would say mitigated by theaveng · · Score: 1

      This morning Channel 6 in Philadelphia debunked the 2 million estimate. They demonstrated with a newspaper that in order to squeeze that many people, the citizens would have to be standing close enough to have sex with one another (i.e. 8 people per newspaper sheet).

      A more-realistic estimate, based upon video of the scene, indicates 3-4 people per newspaper sheet, which yields 750,000-1 million total.

      Also if you look at the satellite, you'll notice that not the whole mall was filled. People were clustered towards the center while the edges remained relatively open.

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  6. Shhh! by RulerOf · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Be vewy vewy quiet!

    If they don't ask why the service isn't getting better but the prices are getting higher, they'll never suspect that we'd rather hoard cash instead of reinvesting it! Teeheeheehee!

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  7. lessons by xenolion · · Score: 2, Interesting

    I think most companies learned a lesson on 9/11 when the main cell tower in New York was on the World Trade Center, that they have to have a quick and effective way to get "Temp-Towers" up to handle the over flow and extra traffic. Guess its not something they can test to make sure it works well, lets hope they never have to use it on a regular basis.

    1. Re:lessons by Detritus · · Score: 4, Informative

      Ref. 9/11, it wasn't just the cell towers, a huge number of high-speed data lines were cut. You can't have a working cellular system without the data lines that connect all the nodes in the network.

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    2. Re:lessons by nasch · · Score: 1

      Sure they could test it. The only problem is stupid people would not realize it's better to test it on some random Wednesday afternoon and risk failure then, than to test it during an emergency. If they run a test and it goes badly, they get major bad PR, when they really should get good PR for trying to make sure their systems work ahead of time.

      So they end up doing exactly what you said - don't test it at all, and just hope there's no emergency.

  8. Waiting for Congestion Charges by mpapet · · Score: 1

    To appear on ~1M mobile phone bills.

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  9. My experience by gEvil+(beta) · · Score: 3, Interesting

    I was down on the Mall yesterday and tried to make a few calls to someone who got separated from our group. Nothing was going through. I then decided to send a text message to her. She got it close to an hour later (after we'd already met up again). Apparently it was completely hit or miss as to whether your call or text got through.

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    1. Re:My experience by panoptical2 · · Score: 5, Informative

      If the phone infrastructure is down, then texting is actually less reliable. I think Slashdot posted an earlier story about how texts actually piggyback onto the spare bandwidth of the network's phone infrastructure; the texts do not travel on a separate network. This goes to explain why your text wasn't received until almost an hour later...

    2. Re:My experience by gEvil+(beta) · · Score: 1

      That would make sense. After speaking with a few other people who were also down there (the joy of living 2 miles away from the Mall), their phone calls were also completely spotty all morning. Some got through fine. Others went straight to the recipient's voicemail. Some just sat there on the "calling" window with no connection. It seems that it didn't really matter which combination of carriers were involved.

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    3. Re:My experience by AndersOSU · · Score: 2, Interesting

      NPR was running a story on the cell phone aspect of the inauguration yesterday morning. They reported the carriers were encouraging people to text instead of call (which I'm sure was only to save bandwidth and had nothing to do with the massively inflated cost per text - which /. has also covered) I will say though that my girlfriend was texting back and forth from the mall a lot, while she had to press send a couple of times for some messages, once they were through, they were delivered in a timely fashion - she also didn't seem to have any problem receiving messages (on verizon).

    4. Re:My experience by 222 · · Score: 1

      Correct. SMS uses the call control channel for data transmission, which is why you can text without having a data plan enabled on your phone.

      You were also correct in assuming that massive calls = lots of call control signaling = not much room left for SMS.

    5. Re:My experience by oasisbob · · Score: 3, Informative

      the texts do not travel on a separate network

      From the phone to the tower, that is correct. However, once your carrier receives the text, it is routed entirely differently.

      From what I heard, the reason texts were delayed for so long has nothing to do with the control channel being full, but rather the total text volume being switched between carriers.

      i.e., the text isn't stuck on your mobile phone, it's stuck in a message queue in a datacenter somewhere.

  10. Data network not taken seriously by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Interesting

    I was on the Mall in DC, and AT&T's data network was completely down through most, if not all, of the day. Since they have to dedicate channels to data, I'm sure they decided to abandon data completely. Another example of how current data carriers don't take their data networks seriously. They're *obviously* not as important as voice...

    1. Re:Data network not taken seriously by Benthos · · Score: 1

      I was on the Mall in DC as well, and found the same thing with AT&T. Although I had very spotty voice services, I was receiving texts over 2 hours after they were sent and had no larger data transfer capabilities.

    2. Re:Data network not taken seriously by pak9rabid · · Score: 1

      Another example of how current data carriers don't take their data networks seriously. They're *obviously* not as important as voice...

      Man, do I second that. Occasionally I'll get text messages from nagios hours after it detected a problem. That's complete bullshit. If they're going to gouge everyone for SMS messaging, they better have some outstandingly low latency for it. Seems like to me this is something that could spur a class-action lawsuit..

    3. Re:Data network not taken seriously by squirrelist · · Score: 1

      On AT&T and had trouble with text too. 1 to 2 hour delays. However, the data network seemed to run without a hitch, and my iPhone 3G was uploading photos to Facebook without any noticeable slowdown.

      I could make the occasional phone call if I kept trying.

    4. Re:Data network not taken seriously by Greventls · · Score: 1

      I'm thirding this. AT&T was dead for me on Sunday and Tuesday.

    5. Re:Data network not taken seriously by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      So I should _expect_ my free voicemail to arrive 2 weeks late? I agree text shouldn't be a separate fee, but they've got more problems than just DC during the inauguration.

  11. Can you here me now? by kcbanner · · Score: 1

    Well, yea...I mean there brough in like extra cell towers for the local area.

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  12. the real problem by ILuvRamen · · Score: 2, Insightful

    They couldn't fit that giant crowd of people from the Verizon commercials (or whatever company that is) into the area that was already overpacked. That was the real problem. Btw as for the people who keep saying the cell towers on wheels solved all the problems, I dunno what moron thought that was going to help but there's only so much bandwidth available in the air regardless of the number of towers and you can't have them stomping on each other.

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    1. Re:the real problem by xenolion · · Score: 0, Informative

      like i said its not something they can test every day with the portable towers. I'm with you, you can only fit so much in one area, the only way around is to have them on differnet channels but most people dont have phones that can switch channels by themselfs(i may have to edit this again need to see if i can find a phone that can)

    2. Re:the real problem by snspdaarf · · Score: 1

      First, I am not a cellular tech weenie, and I did not stay in a Holiday Inn Express last night. I have had to learn some of this stuff over the years in self-defense, and what I understand is that to increase the call capacity in an area there are three main things that can be done. One, use sectorized antennas; two, add towers and turn their power down to create a larger number of smaller cells; three, add to the number of links to the terrestrial network.

      I don't have a car analogy, but think of it like this: You can light up a room with a single 300 watt bulb, but you get more even light with a string of twelve 25 watt lights evenly spaced around the room.

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    3. Re:the real problem by Detritus · · Score: 4, Informative

      The network tells the phone which channels to use. The trick to increasing capacity in cellular networks is to reduce the transmitter power and cell size. This increases frequency reuse.

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    4. Re:the real problem by tomz16 · · Score: 1

      Btw as for the people who keep saying the cell towers on wheels solved all the problems, I dunno what moron thought that was going to help but there's only so much bandwidth available in the air regardless of the number of towers and you can't have them stomping on each other.

      Apparently those "morons" that actually work as cellular engineers. You roll in the cell sites on wheels (COWs), drop the output power of neighboring cells, and voila increased capacity!

      But hey, I guess it's just easier to call someone a name whenever you don't understand how something works.

    5. Re:the real problem by oasisbob · · Score: 1

      Parent is entirely right.

      When you think of cells in a network, don't picture the towers in the middle of a cell because they're not. Rather, picture triangles with the cell towers on the corners, transmitting inwards. (Three antenna arrays per tower, one per cell.) This is a simplification, but it illustrates the general principle. Next time you see a tower, take a look at the top, and you'll probably see the antennas spaced at 120 degree angles. This is why.

      In this configuration, if you want to add capacity, you throw a tower in the middle of an existing cell, drop power, and make a bunch of of smaller cells.

    6. Re:the real problem by ILuvRamen · · Score: 1

      Every reply so far is wrong. Regardless of the strength of the antenna, the cell phone still broadcasts the same distance. So if you have 3 antennas in a 1 mile by one mile square, your cell phone still has the same power level and range and will take up that entire mile.

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    7. Re:the real problem by tomz16 · · Score: 1

      You would think that after being shot down by several people you might actually go and do some reading instead of persisting in your idiocy.

      Cellular phones (since the Moto Dynatec according to wikipedia) have the ability to change their transmit power at the request of the network. This was SPECIFICALLY designed for the purpose of accommodating different-sized/power cells and increasing capacity (like in this situation). It is one of the principle reasons that you can now see cellular transmitter at different heights on towers (mostly lower), and why picocells work.

      This capability is especially critical in CDMA-based systems for another reason. In a CDMA system, a user close to the tower would be jacking up the noise floor and decreasing capacity for the entire cell... unless the tower has a way of remotely regulating that users handset power.

      Here is a page about power control in the UMTS system (http://www.umtsworld.com/technology/power.htm). You can also easily look up dozens of papers on calculating optimal handset powers for CDMA systems, and CDMA cell breathing.

  13. Unmissable revenue opportunity by EmbeddedJanitor · · Score: 3, Insightful
    Hardly a charitable act. Do you really think the providers were going to miss an opportunity like this? They'd have pretty much been guaranteed 100% utilization of equipment that often stands relatively idle.

    As for the content.... more does not mean better. Having millions sending vids and pics shot with crappy cellphone lenses was hardy of benefit. A few real camera crews with real cameras provided all the really useful (ie worth viewing) material.

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    1. Re:Unmissable revenue opportunity by damn_registrars · · Score: 0, Offtopic

      Hardly a charitable act. Do you really think the providers were going to miss an opportunity like this? They'd have pretty much been guaranteed 100% utilization of equipment that often stands relatively idle.

      An excellent point, and I never really thought of it as something the companies were doing out of the kindness of their own hearts, anyways. It really was more a game of one-upmanship for them, to see whose network could handle the most volume that day. I'm surprised the providers haven't put those numbers out yet to try to declare whose network was the best that day.

      Granted I was over 300 miles away from Washington DC when the inauguration happened, but it just occurred to me I didn't even make a call that day until late in the evening. I have no idea if the network my phone is on was effected by inauguration traffic or not.

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    2. Re:Unmissable revenue opportunity by TheSync · · Score: 1

      Hardly a charitable act

      "It is not from the benevolence of the butcher, the brewer, or the baker, that we expect our dinner, but from their regard to their own interest. We address ourselves, not to their humanity, but to their self-love, and never talk to them of our necessities but of their advantages."

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    3. Re:Unmissable revenue opportunity by isorox · · Score: 1

      As for the content.... more does not mean better. Having millions sending vids and pics shot with crappy cellphone lenses was hardy of benefit. A few real camera crews with real cameras provided all the really useful (ie worth viewing) material.

      No, but had there been an assassination if might be interesting.

      I wonder what it would have been like if there'd been modern cellphones in November 1963. Assuming that the millions of photos and frames of video could be sifted through.

    4. Re:Unmissable revenue opportunity by fbjon · · Score: 1

      real cameras provided all the really useful (ie worth viewing) material

      Case in point: http://www.boston.com/bigpicture/2009/01/the_inauguration_of_president.html

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  14. Where's the motivation by EmbeddedJanitor · · Score: 5, Insightful

    If people continue to pay high prices for shit service then where is the motivation to improve the infrastructure? They might bitch, they might grumble, but they still pay.

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    1. Re:Where's the motivation by The+End+Of+Days · · Score: 1

      What sort of improvements should be made to handle an extreme peak not likely to happen again? I think it worked out pretty damn well, being that I was two miles from the ceremonies and suffered no outages at all.

    2. Re:Where's the motivation by QuantumRiff · · Score: 1

      Can't agree more.. Please don't actually TALK on your unlimited plan. Please use text messaging, as its basically free for us to send through the network, and we get to charge you $0.25 each for them! (and in reality, they charge twice for one message sent/received)

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    3. Re:Where's the motivation by A.+B3ttik · · Score: 1

      If people continue to pay high prices for shit service then where is the motivation to improve the infrastructure?

      To beat out the competition, of course.

      It might not have been feasible to improve the infrastructure with wired connections, but with Cell Towers, most people are going to go with the service that gives the most bars. -I- switched after I noticed all my friends getting full reception in my neighborhood while I constantly went in and out of signal.

    4. Re:Where's the motivation by Abreu · · Score: 3, Informative

      $0.25 US Dollars per text message??

      That's just... insane

      Here in Mexico I pay 80 peso cents for each text message sent (aprox. 0.057 USD). I pay nothing for messages received. ...and that's because I am using a prepaid phone, most people with monthly plans have unlimited text messaging.

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    5. Re:Where's the motivation by CaptCovert · · Score: 1

      Receiving an international text message can incur additional fees, depending on your plan here in the states as well.

  15. How about fixing just the cities by EmbeddedJanitor · · Score: 5, Interesting
    Yeah, we all know that the whole country is big, but the cities are relatively small. Why is it that people drop calls while driving through some areas of Silicon Valley?

    My brother is an international tour guide and uses a cellphone in places like Rwanda which has about the same coverage density as USA. Is that what the USA industry really wants to be compared to?

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    1. Re:How about fixing just the cities by nettablepc · · Score: 1

      And nobody ever drops calls in European cities? Bah. Any attempt to compare that uses individual experiences is meaningless. You need a large sample. Take a statistics class, at least enough of one to fool people who have not.

    2. Re:How about fixing just the cities by sumdumass · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Well, there is one particular advantage to Europe and most of Africa and other places around the world. They have standardized on one type of cell tech where in the US we at one time had five or more and about 20 different companies competing to be the next big thing. I think we are still using something like 3 different channels and about 4 different types of technology. Most phones can use more then one at a time.

      Anyways, this is an artifact of being free and having companies bring Cell phones to the masses long before the government decided it was a right or something. In Europe, they didn't have this, one base telecoms in charge of each country (despite there might be alternative providers) and different companies offer or resell services from that. In Briton, I believe the government took control of the telephone companies in 1911 or so where in the US, outside of a monopoly for a while with a private company, it has always been competition in a market regulated by the government.

      Anyways, comparing Europe, Russia, Australia and Africa to the US as many people have attempted to do is a little like comparing apples to motorcycles. I'm sure you can find something in common but they are very different beasts entirely.

    3. Re:How about fixing just the cities by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I work in this industry and it's really hard to find land to lease especially in big cities. You have to deal with zoning, environment, etc. IF all goes well then it take about 6 months. You just can't built anywhere you want.

  16. Looks like the setup needs to be tweaked more. by antdude · · Score: 2, Interesting

    If this was an emergency like on 9/11/2001, then this would had been very bad.

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    1. Re:Looks like the setup needs to be tweaked more. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      If this was an emergency like on 9/11/2001, then this would had been very bad.

      Because it's so common to have 1M+ people in the area of 1 square mile?!?

    2. Re:Looks like the setup needs to be tweaked more. by ooglek · · Score: 1

      Untrue -- Government officials and emergency personnel have a special code they can use to dial numbers on their cell phone, giving them priority access to the cell towers.

      http://wps.ncs.gov/use.html

      Dial *272 and then the number you want to call. If your phone is flagged as allowed to use WPS, then your call will be accepted and given priority over all other calls. I believe there are differing levels of access, so a local volunteer fireman might have a lower priority than say Secretary of State Clinton.

  17. Facebook by ubrgeek · · Score: 1

    I'm curious to see numbers on Facebook's traffic during/after the inauguration. It seemed like I was getting a ton of "So-and-So has updated Something-or-Another" during the hours immediately after.

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    1. Re:Facebook by tomz16 · · Score: 1

      I bet a nice chunk of this was due to people watching the CNN live feed at work. CNN partnered with facebook so that the live video feed page had your friends' facebook status, and gave you the opportunity to update your own status while watching the inauguration.

  18. Who cares? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

    College football games get big enough crowds to overload cell networks. Is it really surprising the inauguration did? Can we get some informative articles please.

  19. Patriotism, it empties your head by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

    Your argument would be valid if cities had fast broadband.

    The only people who trot out this argument are too blind to see that state of broadband in America. Broadband gets cheaper all over the world, but it only gets more expensive here.

  20. Inauguration from a CMDA point of view by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I was there the whole day for the inauguration and the parade. I have Verizon, and had no noticible problems with making calls or sending/recieving SMS.

    My husband, however, has Sprint. He was able to make a 10 minute call in the morning until the system kicked him off, and then his phone was a 4-bar-signal useless brick for the rest of the day.

  21. Such a thorough study ... by NameIsDavid · · Score: 1

    The article bases its claim that T-Mobile had the biggest problem on "PC World reporting that one customer complained they were unable to make or receive calls throughout the entire morning leading up to Obama's appearance." One customer!

  22. Need for social engineering too by EmbeddedJanitor · · Score: 1

    People need to learn that during a 9/11 they should not use phone services (cell or landline) except for vital comms. Cut the twitter, OMG! video to friends and all that crap. Leave the airwaves for those that need it. Same deal for cars etc. Stay away and leave the roads for emergency vehicles.

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    1. Re:Need for social engineering too by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      People also need to learn that they shouldn't slam on their brakes during rush hour in order to stare at some guy getting a traffic ticket on the other side of the fucking highway.

      I'm not holding my breath.

  23. T-Mobile sucks in DC by Spazmania · · Score: 1

    No surprise that T-Mobile had so much trouble. I've heard they're OK elsewhere, but in the DC area their coverage is horrible. Pity too because they have the best phones... First the sidekick and now android.

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  24. My experience with Sprint by singularity · · Score: 1

    I use Sprint and was about 250m from the Washington Monument. While I had full bars the entire morning, texts were hit or miss - sometimes they went through, othertimes they did not. Calling was impossible. I tried calling twice and neither ever actually got through.

    A friend with AT&T was able to get texting to work, but was not able to call nor to send a picture message.

    All in all? I would not say they "survived".

    Only in the sense that I can use my Sprint phone today, I suppose.

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    1. Re:My experience with Sprint by ooglek · · Score: 1

      I too was about 250m from the Washington Monument, and trying and failing on the Sprint network. I had full bars, but was only able to send 3 text messages between my 10am arrival and 2pm departure. Most got rejected with Network Busy.

      Calls and data never worked during that period while on the Mall.

      A friend who had Verizon did not have any trouble making calls or texting.

      On NANOG, a Verizon employee described that they spent 6 months planning capacity and rolling out COW's (Cell On Wheels) and had gotten either microwave or fiber connections to each COW to handle the traffic.

      My Sprint phone works fine, most of the time. Though I live in Northern VA where my neighborhood seems to have bad service, even according to their coverage map.

    2. Re:My experience with Sprint by ooglek · · Score: 1

      Looks like Sprint claimed to have deployed extra capacity. Just not enough:

      http://www.cnn.com/2008/TECH/12/16/inauguration.phones/index.html

      " To handle the increased traffic, Sprint is planning to deploy resources usually reserved for hurricanes: COWs and COLTs.

      The acronyms stand for Cell On Wheels and Cell On Light Truck. The vehicles use satellite and microwave technology and act as mobile cell towers. They are typically deployed to disaster sites when towers get knocked out.

      For the inauguration, Sprint says it will increase calling capacity. A COLT will be able to handle about 1,500 extra callers, though only 60 calls can go through simultaneously.

      On Tuesday, Sprint technicians added 30 percent more capacity to one site on top of the World Health Organization building in downtown Washington."

      60 simultaneous calls?!? Weak! 1.5 million people, let's guess 200,000 Sprint customers. Sprint would have needed 134 COLTs to handle the extra customers. I'm guessing they didn't.