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Obama Looking To Symantec CEO For Commerce

patentpundit writes "Word has started to circulate that President Barack Obama may be close to appointing John W. Thompson, the outgoing chief executive of network security firm Symantec Corp., to be the next Secretary of Commerce. According to the LA Times, over the last several days Thompson has spoken on the telephone and met with key senators, and Sen. Barbara Boxer (D-Calif.), a member of the commerce committee that would hold confirmation hearings for any appointed Secretary of Commerce, is 'extremely supportive and hopeful he'll be the nominee.' The appointment of Thompson to head the Department of Commerce would be an exceptionally interesting choice given that only days ago President Obama asked Scott McNealy, a co-founder of Sun Microsystems, to lead his open source charge and conduct a study and report back regarding the feasibility of the US government forgoing proprietary software and moving toward open source software solutions."

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  1. Guilty of supplying Parasitic bloatware by Finallyjoined!!! · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Is his track record so far.

    What can we now expect?

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    1. Re:Guilty of supplying Parasitic bloatware by FlopEJoe · · Score: 4, Funny

      Sounds perfect for a government official!

    2. Re:Guilty of supplying Parasitic bloatware by couchslug · · Score: 5, Funny

      "What can we now expect?"

      A Department of Commerce that adds positions throughout government which affect essential services and are difficult to remove without system damage?

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  2. Oh great- by FredFredrickson · · Score: 5, Funny

    The first thing he'll do is Root the country- for our own protection. We won't be able to do anything once he's in. He'll screw everything up, and won't leave when we ask him to. We'll need to find a special force of people to go in and remove him manually.

    Worst of all, he won't even fix any problems while he's there, and we'll end up calling his competitors to fix the problem later.

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    1. Re:Oh great- by Jedi+Alec · · Score: 5, Funny

      We won't be able to do anything once he's in. He'll screw everything up, and won't leave when we ask him to. We'll need to find a special force of people to go in and remove him manually.

      Actually he might be a blessing in disguise. After 4 years of this guy, the only hope for the USA will be repartitioning the country and then a swift reinstall of the operating system. Looks like the hardcore liberalists will get their wishes after all ;-)

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    2. Re:Oh great- by Ethanol-fueled · · Score: 3, Funny

      ...and who's to say that he won't be productive while in office! I'm looking forward to his hourly TV and radio address broadcast over all channels:

      John W. Thompson: "Hi, I'm interrupting your regularly scheduled programming to let you know that your commerce is safe."
      average American: "&*%^&$&* how do I turn this damn thing off?!"
      John W. Thompson: "YOUR COMMERCE is SAFE, DAMMIT!"
      average American: "^$%^#$*%%"

    3. Re:Oh great- by AvitarX · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Libertarian is a political party.

      liberalism is an ideology.

      The presence of another party that shares views is irrelevent, if you are not a partisan Libertarian, but share liberalist ideas, then you are liberalist, not a Libertarian.

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    4. Re:Oh great- by Gilmoure · · Score: 4, Funny

      I like parties. I like to get drunk and take my pants off. Maybe start a fire or go yell at the dolphins at Sea World.

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  3. It'll be news when he asks Stallman to work by xzvf · · Score: 4, Insightful

    CEO's are just part of the same thought elite recycling old ideas. Even ones that run technical companies. Stuff like this is only news when real reformers like RMS get cabinet appointments.

    1. Re:It'll be news when he asks Stallman to work by WindowlessView · · Score: 3, Insightful

      CEO's are just part of the same thought elite recycling old ideas

      Worse. Letting Scott McNealy lead an open source initiative is like putting the CEO of United Fruit Company in charge of campesino agrarian reform.

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    2. Re:It'll be news when he asks Stallman to work by ObsessiveMathsFreak · · Score: 2, Funny

      No! It will be the start of The Révolution!

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    3. Re:It'll be news when he asks Stallman to work by jo_ham · · Score: 4, Funny

      Isn't it called Gnupocalypse?

    4. Re:It'll be news when he asks Stallman to work by Gilmoure · · Score: 2, Funny

      Homer: "Why do you look like Caesar Romero?

      Hallucination: "Because you do not know what Caesar Chavez looks like."

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    5. Re:It'll be news when he asks Stallman to work by operagost · · Score: 5, Funny

      Excuse me, I belive you mean GNU/Apocalyse.

      - RMS

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    6. Re:It'll be news when he asks Stallman to work by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

      Actually, it will be the GNU World Order.

  4. Other industry associations by gravos · · Score: 4, Informative

    Thompson had a career at the IBM Corporation and serves as a director on the corporate boards of UPS and Seagate Technology.

    1. Re:Other industry associations by morgan_greywolf · · Score: 5, Funny

      Thompson had a career at ... Seagate Technology.

      OMFG! Nobody reboot ANYTHING at the Dept. of Commerce!

  5. feature creep by gandhi_2 · · Score: 5, Funny

    Obama's administration, feature creep, and bloat. Just like Symantic.

  6. Any explanation? by nine-times · · Score: 5, Interesting

    I don't know about John W. Thompson, but my gut response to this was, "Could he look for someone who runs a company that doesn't suck?" Thompson might not be responsible, but *someone* has been running Symantec into the ground for several years now-- at least as far as product quality is concerned.

    As far as technology goes, I'd be much more pleased if I felt like the administration were looking for people with pro-freedom and pro-consumer tendencies.

  7. Mixed Blessing? by Cowmonaut · · Score: 2, Interesting

    I suppose he knows the "tech industry" or what have you better than other possible choices. I just have this feeling that having the former CEO of a proprietary software company in charge of looking into the feasibility of going open source might not be as good an idea.

    I mean, the guy is capable but is he willing? Several nations are going nuts with open source now since it puts them in control of their own systems and even fits their philosophical ideas (power to the people, etc) better than going Windows. So we know its possible and seems to be working out okay where it has been done. Why do I have a feeling whomever we do get for Secretary of Commerce is going to say we should stick with Windows for the OS, Symantec for the AV, and MS Office for our primary apps?

  8. Comment removed by account_deleted · · Score: 5, Funny

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  9. Re:Symmantec out for the count by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    this could prevent Symmantec from providing any contracts to the white house for 2 years

    I don't like Symantec either, but if this is Obama's attempt to keep NAV off his white house PC it's a bit extreme.

  10. One of the worst proprietary vendors... by MikeRT · · Score: 3, Interesting

    I couldn't help but notice that he picked the CEO of a company that makes the worst, most bloated, least valuable proprietary products I've ever used. Say what you will about the bloat in Microsoft products, but at least the bloat is there because they are trying their damnedest to create a robust platform and maintain compatibility. I've never seen a single benefit to the bloat that Symantec products have, and have often found myself wondering how you would even notice malware and viruses on a system that has their antivirus products on it.

    1. Re:One of the worst proprietary vendors... by nurb432 · · Score: 3, Informative

      Hey, ghost is a great product. ( ya, i know they bought it a good decade ago, but all the legacy code is long gone by now )

      And their latest acquisition: Altiris is nothing to sneeze at either.

      They are *much* more then antivirus. ( which i agree, sux )

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    2. Re:One of the worst proprietary vendors... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Interesting

      His company makes a shitty product and have made a huge profit from it. He should be excellent as Secretary of Commerce. Hell, selling a good product ain't that hard.

    3. Re:One of the worst proprietary vendors... by Firehed · · Score: 2, Insightful

      If we're going to make political statements out of software, then is it safe to equate republicans with spyware?

      /sick of party-line bullshit - they both suck

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    4. Re:One of the worst proprietary vendors... by nvrrobx · · Score: 5, Interesting

      Having been an engineer at Symantec for 5 1/2 years, I can tell you that what they suffer from is the inability to build new products themselves, or a management team that refuses to try (you choose).

      It's a company of "buy everything you can see, who cares if you can integrate it". Very little in the way of shared components, every product looks and works different, very little interoperability, etc.

      It seemed like we always bought the worst codebases we could find, then tried to fix it. It's not due to a lack of good engineering talent - there is plenty at the company.

      While I think JWT is a nice guy, one only needs to look at the purchase of Veritas to find a completely failed business model, and a CEO who doesn't seem to "get it". Even after that, they continued (and still continue) to snatch up other companies with little regard to how it will really affect shareholders. Nice guys don't make CEOs.

      When John Schwarz left to take the CEO spot at Business Objects and we kept Gary Bloom (CEO, Veritas) - I knew we were in trouble.

    5. Re:One of the worst proprietary vendors... by davie · · Score: 4, Informative

      The Democrat and Republican parties are the two sides of a counterfeit coin. Heads? they win, tails? we lose. Their core agenda is unified, and they have perfected the art of keeping half the country fighting the other half to support it. I'm waiting for an ex-Professional wrestler to show up with magic sunglasses (I won't fight it, I'll put them on right away).

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    6. Re:One of the worst proprietary vendors... by Ogive17 · · Score: 2, Funny

      Having been an engineer at Symantec for 5 1/2 years, I can tell you that what they suffer from is the inability to build new products themselves, or a management team that refuses to try (you choose).

      So what you're saying is we're going to have to buy Canada in order to fix health care?

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  11. lame by nilbog · · Score: 4, Insightful

    What has this guy done except lead a company that makes a crappy product that only succeeds because of their volume license deals with computer manufacturers and Microsoft's own ineptness and inability to produce a secure product?

    Symantec produces software that slows down your computer, makes your other software stop working, and makes itself difficult to uninstall. Pretty much the same as a virus.

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  12. Wow by unity100 · · Score: 2, Interesting

    open source initiatives through sun ceo, ex yahoo exec for admn. post, symantec exec for ceo .... totally investing in the upcoming tech age.

    u.s. is going to shake up and lead again after all. just at the time we thought it was going down the drain. amazing.

  13. open source by DoofusOfDeath · · Score: 3, Interesting

    The appointment of Thompson to head the Department of Commerce would be an exceptionally interesting choice given that only days ago President Obama asked Scott McNealy, a co-founder of Sun Microsystems, to lead his open source charge and conduct a study and report back regarding the feasibility of the US government forgoing proprietary software and moving toward open source software solutions

    The Navy-Marine Corp. Intranet (NMCI) project has been seen as a huge, overpriced failure. It's also due for re-bidding in 2010, I believe, because EDS decided it wasn't a profitable contract.

    I wonder if a general push towards OSS in the federal government will even lead to an eviction of the unholy Exchange servers that are part of the current NMCI.

    1. Re:open source by ishobo · · Score: 2, Informative

      It is because of incompetence. There is nothing wrong with Exchange in the hands of somebody that knows the product. Alternatives include products such as Sun's Communication Suite and IBM's Lotus Domino.

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  14. Whew!! by erroneus · · Score: 2, Funny

    For a second there, I read "Jack Thompson"

  15. Huh? by SwashbucklingCowboy · · Score: 2, Informative

    given that only days ago President Obama asked Scott McNealy, a co-founder of Sun Microsystems, to lead his open source charge and conduct a study and report back regarding the feasibility of the US government forgoing proprietary software and moving toward open source software solutions.

    It certainly wasn't Obama, but SOMEONE in the administration that asked McNealy to write a paper on open source in government. That is not the same as leading a "charge."

    Interestingly, Symantec reports earnings today. Gotta believe at least one of the analysts will ask about the reports (and be given a long winded "no comment."

  16. Has anyone actually seen him by lyz · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Most of the comments here are quite negative towards Mr. Thompson. He is actually a very impressive person. I suggest people who have decided to base their judgment of him on the company he ran watch the episode of CEO Exchange with him in it. http://www.pbs.org/wttw/ceoexchange/episodes/ceo_jthompson.html

    1. Re:Has anyone actually seen him by tniermann · · Score: 2, Interesting

      He is a great choice. He was on the advisory committee of a previous company of mine. He was always insightful, and he has a magnetic personality. He is someone who is impressive in both small private sessions as well as the big forums. At the end of the day he is a sales person through and through. Having someone in Commerce who can facilitate big deals and trade structures with class will be very good for the country.

  17. Of course... by zullnero · · Score: 2, Funny

    You all could be thankful that it isn't someone who believes the Internet is a set of tubes, which you cannot dump large objects on, as you could the bed of a flatbed truck.

  18. New Policy by Stormy+Dragon · · Score: 3, Funny

    Going forward, taxes will now be referred to as a Yearly Government Subscription Fee.

  19. Re:Symmantec out for the count by Buelldozer · · Score: 2, Informative