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Fusion-Fission System Burns Hot Radioactive Waste

An anonymous reader writes "A hybrid fission-fusion process has been developed that can be used in some traditional fission reactors to process radioactive waste and reduce the amount of waste produced by 99%. This process uses magnetic bottle techniques developed from fusion research. This seems like the first viable solution to the radioactive waste problem of traditional nuclear reactors. This could be a big breakthrough in the search for environmentally friendly energy sources. Lots of work remains to take the concept to an engineering prototype and then to a production reactor."

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  1. One small hitch... by Muad'Dave · · Score: 4, Interesting

    First, they have to get sustainable fusion working, then they can installed the Super-X Divertor to bleed off neutrons to burn fission waste.

    Why not use safe, proven technology available TODAY to burn 99% of current fuel AND WASTE?

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    1. Re:One small hitch... by Knightman · · Score: 4, Interesting

      You know there is no problem sustaining a fusion reaction with todays tech, the problem is sustaining a fusion reaction that has a net surplus of energy.

      There are even tabletop fusionreactors that are used as a source of neutrons.

      The point of this tech is to scale the fusionreactor up so you get alot of neutrons to bombard the sludge, the fusion doesn't need to generate any energy.

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    2. Re:One small hitch... by KevinIsOwn · · Score: 4, Interesting

      Don't blame this on the "eco lobby". The ever-powerful eco-lobby that can't even get us to limit carbon emissions barely has the power to stop nuclear power plants. Many environmentalists, like myself, support nuclear power when it's properly regulated and well thought out. The problem is too many people can't get Chernobyl and 3 mile island out of their heads, despite the fact that the pollution from coal and oil is ultimately more destructive than nuclear power.

      The solution is to educate people about the pros and cons, and reasonable people will start siding with nuclear. (Of course, whether or not people are reasonable is another question entirely...)

  2. Re:Neat technology by Broken+scope · · Score: 4, Interesting

    How much does the battery system cost?

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  3. Life Cycle Analysis by mbone · · Score: 4, Interesting

    This idea was (in some sense) around in the 1960's, believe it or not.

    The high neutron flux produced means that the CFNS would itself become radioactive, and the steel of its construction weakened by neutron irradiation. I would like to see a life-cycle analysis to make sure that the total waste consumed was more than that produced by the CFNS itself.

    This general issue is why I would like to see a lot more emphasis places on He3 fusion, and also on linear fusion devices. (He3 fusion, either He3 - Dt or He3-He3, produces much less neutron flux. To me, the end goal would be to have nuclear fusion power that did not produce radioactive waste, which ITER definitely will do. Linear fusion is for spacecraft propulsion, of course - it is thought to be much easier technically than making a tokomak work.)

  4. Transmutation of waste by goombah99 · · Score: 5, Interesting

    I'm also guess here. A decade ago, Los Alamos pioneered Accelerator Transmutation of Waste. There the idea was you bombard high level waste with a particle beam to, ironically, make it even higher level waste. The clever thing was this. The higher the radioactivity the shorter the half life.

    The plan was to convert things with halflifes of 50,000 years to half lifes of hours. An insanely clever idea. But it never got much funding.

    I'm guessing that this Fission/fussion system is probably playing the same game. Fusion makes for heavier nuclii, which if they are not stable, tend to be even short lived as a general trend.

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  5. Re:Weapons Grade Production? by inviolet · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Generations ago we were masters of waste not want not. If you burned candles for light, you collected your drippings, remelted them into new candles.

    That was the consequence of materials costing more than manhours. Now thanks to industrialization and automation, manhours are vastly more expensive than material, simply because one manhour produces 1000x more material than it did before. (In the grand scheme of things, the cost of either is a function of its exchange rate with the other.)

    Our allegedly wasteful modern society is wasteful of the visible component (material) because it is so careful to conserve the invisible component (manhours). Unfortunately most people are concrete-bound and so do not understand what's going on.

    Imagine if the 13 Colonies outlawed this because you could also remelt them into canon wicks... absolute stupidity.

    Indeed.

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  6. Re:Weapons Grade Production? by jhfry · · Score: 4, Interesting

    As a former nuclear engineer you must also be aware that nuclear material can and is frequently used with virtually no risk to anyone.

    I too am scared by unregulated, corner-cutting businesses working with the stuff. But no more afraid of a commercial farmer breeding a potentially lethal or ecologically dangerous super-crop though... and that's legal. So is colliding particles that may or may not cause the end of the planet.

    The nuclear industry exists now, and there have been tremendous strides in the technology and safety. To suggest that we should not encourage an industry that may, with advances such as this article discusses, result in nearly zero net effect on the environment is pretty awesome if you ask me.

    Honestly, nuclear fission is probably the best energy source we could pursue right now. Why, because we can do it now with virtually no waiting and no chance of finding out later that we rushed into something we shouldn't have (like corn ethanol).

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  7. Re:Mr. Fusion by Firethorn · · Score: 5, Interesting

    What we need is a mainstream movie and miniseries about the hazards of coal; perhaps going through the life of a Chinese coal miner?

    Oh, and point out the cost/hazards of solar and wind while you're at it.

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  8. Re:I'm selling a bridge! Cheap!! by bcwright · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Unfortunately much (most?) of the US public thinks that:

    Everything that's "natural" is good. (Umm... what about ricin? Perfectly respectable "natural" product...)

    Everything "nuclear" is bad. (The parent is potentially a good counterexample).

    Everything "renewable" is good. (Using corn-based ethanol as a fuel source is a really bad idea ... there are better sources that have less environmental and economic impact).

    Etc. Unfortunately the state of science education in the US is in such a sorry state that too many people are unable to think rationally about many of the choices facing us - they'll pay more attention to what Oprah or Paris think about some scientific question than they would to the scientists and engineers who actually do know something about those choices.

    For all those people, I've got a bridge for sale in Manhattan! Cheap!! Buy it now while you have the chance, because it'll sell fast!!!

    :-( :-( :-( Our country is so screwed... hopefully some of the rest of the world can keep civilization going until the nitwits here die out ... :-( :-( :-(