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Google Maps To Add 'Friend' GPS Tracking

Henway writes "Google is adding the option to Google Maps to place your whereabouts either via cell phone towers or GPS. Think 'locator beacon.' Paraphrased: This would be good for people wanting to let their friends know where they are or for parents wanting to know where their children are at all times."

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  1. Don't need it by Sax+Maniac · · Score: 5, Funny

    Sorry, I already have this. I just log into my bank account's website, look at the recent charges, and that tells me where my wife is.

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    1. Re:Don't need it by von_rick · · Score: 5, Funny

      But does it tell you who she is with? Now if you were tracking your best friend AND your wife, you'd know why those things listed in your account statement never show up at your house.

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    2. Re:Don't need it by ani23 · · Score: 3, Funny

      i don't charge her for the services man. so ur outta luck

  2. I don't think it means what they think it means... by mnslinky · · Score: 3, Insightful

    How the article reads:

    This would be good for people wanting to let their friends know where they are or for parents wanting to know where their children are at all times.

    What it really means:
    This would be good for girlfriends wanting to know where their boyfriends are or for parents wanting to know where their children are at all times.

  3. So, kind of like Britekite? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Sounds remarkably similar to the services offered by Brightkite.

    1. Re:So, kind of like Britekite? by scubamage · · Score: 3, Informative

      And Loopt.

    2. Re:So, kind of like Britekite? by BlueOtto · · Score: 3, Informative

      And Mologogo.

    3. Re:So, kind of like Britekite? by sexconker · · Score: 5, Funny

      No guys! This is GOOGLE! It's new and innovative!!

    4. Re:So, kind of like Britekite? by Dahamma · · Score: 2, Funny

      And Heroes!

  4. Sweet! by eln · · Score: 5, Funny

    Oh man, I hope my girlfriend gets on this! It will make it SO much easier to track her. I am so sick of hiding in the bushes across the street from her house for three hours just to find out she wasn't even home! And this is going to save me a fortune on text messages...I won't need to text her every 3 minutes asking where she is if I have Google Maps to tell me!

    Seriously, this is going to revolutionize our relationship. I know we're going to be so happy with this new tracking technology! The restraining order says no, but your Google Maps icon says yes!

    1. Re:Sweet! by Theaetetus · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Oh man, I hope my girlfriend gets on this! It will make it SO much easier to track her.

      Funny, but you raise an important point... This could be used by abusive spouses to keep tabs on the other person, particularly because there doesn't seem to be a "keep my location here no matter where I go" - so turning it off or setting it to the city-location mode could trigger angry accusations.

    2. Re:Sweet! by fracai · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Because clearly there wouldn't have been any pre-existing problems in such a relationship.

      It's like Science Fiction. It's not really about the technology; the tech just provides an interesting framework to examine the real issues.

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  5. Abuse by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Does anyone see the irony in allowing a 3rd party to keep sophisticated data on your and your friends' whereabouts? Given the government's predilection for snooping and the current lack of openness in government, it seems somewhat frightening to allow even the overly-beloved Google this sort of power over your friends.

    1. Re:Abuse by zappepcs · · Score: 4, Interesting

      I'm not sure about the irony, but for $15/week, I'll feed and care for your phone, take it everywhere with me. I even promise not to take it to any meetings of subversive groups, or atheist meetups.

      The government will be happy that you are an active social part of society, and you can rest assured that your privacy is perfectly secure.

      In fact, your tracking data will look exactly like that of 17 other lucky folks who have signed up before all the openings are gone. I just have one space left, so hurry. If you call in the next 10 minutes, you'll also receive photo frame skin for your other phone that holds a picture of the tracked phone so that you'll never miss it, normally a $29.99 value, but you'll get it absolutely free.

      Sign up now, hurry, available spots are going fast.

  6. Re:I don't think it means what they think it means by pm_rat_poison · · Score: 5, Funny

    Don't kid yourself. The women who know where their men are are called widows.

  7. So that means by Bruiser80 · · Score: 5, Funny

    when I get a phone call or text message from my wife, I have to drive back to work before answering it and giving her my location? Awesome. The bar won't be happy :-)

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  8. wife's location? by Ritz_Just_Ritz · · Score: 4, Funny

    As long as my wife doesn't use it to track my girlfriend. Then I'd be really f00ked.

  9. My hobby by godrik · · Score: 2, Funny

    drawing smiley on google maps with my friends and our GPS

  10. Re:Big brother knows where you are by scubamage · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Sadly I think most of today's generation has forgotten why 1984 is scary. Especially if you wrap it up in pretty colors and throw a 2.0 and a medallion that says "BETA" on it.

  11. I'd like the opposite please by spaceman375 · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Can I have my location copywritten? I want NO ONE to have access or the right to use my location in any manner without my explicit approval. Feds and local law enforcement included.

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    1. Re:I'd like the opposite please by mcgrew · · Score: 2, Informative

      Can I have my location copywritten?

      Well, you can write a copy of your location but you can't have it copyrighted any more than you can copyright your phone number. So, no. Sorry.

  12. My generation was lucky by mcgrew · · Score: 5, Insightful

    We didn't even have cell phones when I was a teeneger. Of course, there were no child molesters or terrorists. All we had to fear was Russia throwing nukes at us.

    Yes, there were probably as many pederasts as today, and anyone in Great Britain knows there were terrorists then, but the media didn't hype them like they do today. I'd bet kids are SAFER now than we were then, but you wouldn't know it from the mainstream media.

    1. Re:My generation was lucky by Chabo · · Score: 4, Informative

      I'd bet kids are SAFER now than we were then

      You're very right.

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    2. Re:My generation was lucky by mcgrew · · Score: 4, Funny

      You might want to finish reading the comment before you... HEY! PAY ATTENTION!

    3. Re:My generation was lucky by Pentavirate · · Score: 5, Informative

      I watched the preview and it shows a woman arguing that there is an equal chance of being struck by lightning as being kidnapped (non-family). A little research shows that:

      * You have a 1 in 560 chance of being kidnapped by a non-family member and of those 1/5 will be murdered.
      * You have a 1 in 280,000 chance of being struck by lightning.
      * You have a 1 in 100 chance of dying in a car accident.

      While the lady in the video was grossly overestimating the chances of being struck by lightning, there may not be much cause to freak your kids out about "stranger danger". They need to know the information and how to protect themselves, but they definitely shouldn't be made to be hermits and more than they shouldn't be prevented from riding in cars.

      One thing is for sure, though. Don't get your statistics from Penn and Teller videos.

    4. Re:My generation was lucky by clong83 · · Score: 5, Informative

      From your link on kidsfightingchance, I was able to calculate: 11.4 out of 1000 kids are reported missing each year, which comes out to about 800000 cases. Of those, 69000 are actually abducted. Of those, 18% are by non-family. Of those, 37% are by non-friends. The way I crunch the numbers...

      11.4/1000 * 69/800* .18 * .37 = 0.0000654

      Or,about 1 in 15000 chance of being abducted by a stranger. Even if you go non-family only, it's only about 1 per 10000... Where did you get 1 in 560?? Granted, it's nowhere near the remoteness of a lightning strike, but the odds of an abduction by a non-family member are remote at best.

    5. Re:My generation was lucky by Ironica · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Nor should you get your statistics from websites that, on the very same page, list conflicting data:

      Of the 800,000 children reported missing annually, approximately 69,000 are abducted:
      Family members account for the majority of these reported cases (82 percent)
      Non-family abductions account for 12,000 of these reported cases (18 percent)

      Farther down on the same page:

      Each year 3,600 to 4,200 children are abducted by someone outside the family; 1/2 of them are age 12 or older; 2/3 are female; at least 19% of these abductors are not strangers to their victims-Finklehor, p. 10. *The chance of a minor being kidnapped by a stranger is 1 in 560, by a family member 1 in 180. - Discover Magazine as reported by Gannett News Service 5/28/96.

      Now, if you take that 12,000 number, multiply it by 18 (years of childhood), and then take that result (216,000) and determine the percentage that represents of the child population in the US (82,457,018... I grabbed a number off the Census website that's for the 2007 American Community survey, but I had to total up percentages of population by age group and then take that percentage of the total population), you get about a .26% chance of being kidnapped by a stranger... but 1 in 560 is more like .17%. And the ratio of those two percentages don't match the annual statistics, where one lists a number that's 3-4 times as high as the other. Notice that the much higher number is listed prominently at the top of the page, without a footnote as to the conflicting measures from other sources.

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  13. Prior Art by Detaer · · Score: 4, Insightful

    There are many applications that do this for people already. I would rather go out of my way to turn this functionality on, rather than go out of my way to turn it off.

    1. Re:Prior Art by dino2gnt · · Score: 4, Informative

      Good thing that Latitude is entirely opt-in and not opt-out.

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    2. Re:Prior Art by MozeeToby · · Score: 2, Informative

      1) Where does it say that this is in any way, an opt out feature?
      2) What does Prior Art have to do with anything? The article isn't 'Google patents putting dots on map' its 'Google is implementing such and such a feature'.

  14. Foe Tracking by Rob+Riggs · · Score: 2, Funny

    Who needs friend tracking? What we need is Foe Tracking (tm).

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  15. They claim you can lie by professorguy · · Score: 4, Interesting
    Google claims that the tracking client has the ability to lie--that is, report your location as an address you type in. Problem is, if your boss is tracking you to an address, he'll know you're lying because you instantly appear at the destination.

    .

    So the first thing we need is a google application that can update this "lie" info in real time. I want to type in a start address, an end address and have it automatically update the lie with intermediate locations that correspond to a realistic speed. Then even if your boss is watching you, it'll look like you are following instructions (even though you are at the bar).

    That way, when it is inevitably used by assholes, we can salute and chime "Sure thing, boss!" then ignore him with impunity.

  16. Can't copywrite OR copyright a location, but... by tepples · · Score: 2, Funny

    Can I have my location copywritten? I want NO ONE to have access or the right to use my location in any manner without my explicit approval. Feds and local law enforcement included.

    "Copywritten" is the past participle of "copywrite", a verb meaning to compose text for an advertisement. This has nothing to do with "copyright", a verb meaning to secure exclusive rights in a work of authorship. Besides, your location isn't a work of authorship, so you can't copyright it either.

    That said, local privacy law may give you some rights to exclude use of your location. Case law in the United States, for one, recognizes privacy rights based on the Fourth and Fifth Amendments. But still, based only on the text of the article, I would guess that the subject (or possibly the minor subject's parent) has to opt in before the subject gets tracked: "Google is doing its best to avoid a backlash by requiring each user to manually turn on the tracking software and making it easy to turn off or limit access to the service."

  17. Re:Big brother knows where you are by amRadioHed · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Get back to us when Google sends you to Room 101 for refusing to use there service. Until then the comparison falls a wee bit short.

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  18. Re:Turn off your phone... by Constantine+XVI · · Score: 5, Insightful

    No, if you're really paranoid you DON'T CARRY A CELL PHONE IN THE FIRST PLACE. Think about it: if you don't have a phone, you can't be tracked through it, period.

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  19. Re:Big brother knows where you are by blueg3 · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Except on Slashdot, where 1984 has to be referenced regardless of whether or not it's applicable. (For the record, I don't recall it being the case in 1984 that the whereabouts of citizens were tracked at all times.)

    I'm not entirely sure what the concern is here? Is grandparent poster thinking that the government will be circumventing the requirement that people enable the "Track Me" service? That Google will allow them access to or retain the data contrary to their policies? (That at least seems more likely.)

    You are aware this is already quite possible on the individual level, yes? The technology is not such that it's convenient to track the movements of everyone, unless with this new service, Google gave them that information.

  20. Re:I don't think it means what they think it means by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Informative

    Since using GPS in this way can be a contentious issue, Google have given Latitude users the ability to restrict location information on a contact-by-contact basis; alternatively it will let you enter a false position manually

    --AndroidCommunity

    I wonder what they mean by "false position" exactly.. hmm.

  21. Re:I don't think it means what they think it means by sexconker · · Score: 2, Funny

    Current location:
    Your mom.

  22. Google sucks by Murpster · · Score: 4, Insightful

    This company is beginning to honestly frighten me. I was a fan when they were an up & coming search engine, but I started to get concerned about the near monopoly they're getting in search... and the tentacles are spreading. Gmail, Google Maps, AdSense, Android, Analytics... now this crap? I think it's time for me to begin using alternatives.

  23. G1! No! by Aladrin · · Score: 3, Interesting

    I find it odd that it'll work on Blackberries and other phones, but not the G1 phones yet. Must have been something that's been in the works for a while and they haven't had time to rework it for the G1.

    The G1 actually already has an app (on the market, Locales I think it is) that will watch your location and enable and disable features on the phone. I use it to set my phone on vibrate at work automatically, and turn it back on afterwards. It turns my Wifi on at home and off everywhere else.

    It shouldn't be too hard to make another app that replicates the 'friend gps tracking' functionality on the G1. And if you lose your phone, you know where it was last time it was on. :D

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  24. Re:I don't think it means what they think it means by ArcherB · · Score: 5, Funny

    Current location:
    Your mom.

    Yep! Google confirms it. Since my mother is 60, I appreciate you paying attention to her. And even though she considers you to be only a small appetizer, you do keep her from calling me for about 3 minutes.

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  25. Thank God They Didn't Have This Way Back When by aquatone282 · · Score: 2, Funny

    I doubt my parents would have been happy to discover I was in the Downtowner buying cigarettes instead of third period social studies. . .

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  26. APRS by autocracy · · Score: 3, Informative

    It saddens me that none of you have mentioned APRS. It's a long-standing and open protocol for doing positions reporting.

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  27. Re:One more thing to subpoena... by Murpster · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Oh I don't fear the government taking advantage of this, they can already find your location via cellphone if they want. What scares me about this is the abuse potential by employers, or people turning it on for family/lovers without them knowing it ("I think Bobby is cheating on me, he's in the shower, this is my chance to turn on Latitude!"). Most insidious though is that this could make surveillance seem "fun" and by getting people used to the idea it could open the door to all kinds of stupidity.

  28. Re:Big brother knows where you are by blueg3 · · Score: 2, Insightful

    See, I would recommend actually reading 1984, rather than quoting a single line from it and saying, "Seems to me...".

  29. Re:I don't think it means what they think it means by thePowerOfGrayskull · · Score: 3, Insightful

    This would be good for girlfriends wanting to know where their boyfriends are or for parents wanting to know where their children are at all times.

    Because we ALL know there are no obsessive, jealous, and insecure males of the species, right?

  30. Sounds Great For Attention Whores by piltdownman84 · · Score: 3, Funny

    There is alot of people who will just love this. We all know the type. They are the same type who change their facebook status 50 times a day, and twitter about every stupid thing they do. The ones that think everyone cares they are catching a bus to the grocery store, or getting off said bus, or debating what type of juice to buy at grocery store, or almost done shopping at grocery store or ... no I still don't fucking care.

    Alot of people don't want privacy, they want the opposite, and they will love this.

  31. The Classics by airos4 · · Score: 3, Funny

    "You are standing in an open field west of a white house, with a boarded front door. There is a mailbox here."

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  32. Or stopped being lovers ... by Ungrounded+Lightning · · Score: 2, Insightful

    The women who know where their men are are called widows.

    Or stopped being lovers when they became wives.

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  33. Six degrees of separation game by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Insightful

    "if you were tracking your best friend" ... and in time, if most people tracked their best friends (and family), then Google would literally have the power of Big Brother to monitor the movements of almost everyone. Sounds exactly like they want to play the six degrees of separation game.

    This also sounds like a dream come true for the world's governments (who do get data from Google). (Plus even if it just grew over a few years until it was say 10% of the population they tracked, there is huge statistical value in approximating the movements of that many people).

    But anyone signing up to this or signing up their friends better be careful they don't visit any part of a city while a government protest is going on (or even visit the home of someone who was at a government protest, or even visit someone who was friends with someone who was at a protest).

    People in power get into power because they seek power over others and they are constantly seeking ways to gain power and influence over others. (Their greatest fear is the loss of power and they spend sometimes decades learning how to gain power and influence over others). The simply act of seeking power over someone else is to seek to dictate terms to that person. That is why democracy is constantly undermined and why democracy has to be defended by each generation. Just because we have democracy now doesn't mean we keep democracy as there are people who seek to undermine it for their own gain. Ironically it is the very nature of seeking power over others that undermines democracy. So they end up distorting the society they control out of all proportion until their minority in power can control, manipulate and dictate whatever they want for their own gain.

    People in power don't care about individuals but they do care about controlling and manipulating groups of people (as groups of people can stand against governments points of view). But before they can manipulate and influence a group, they need to profile everyone into groups, to then know how and where best to apply their influence. Ultimately they wish to play a divide and conquer game to undermine any group which can stand in the way of their goals. So they end up continuing to bias laws and controls in their favor, until the society they control is a nightmare vision for the majority of people in their control.

    Knowledge is power and this new move by Google is a level of power way beyond the capabilities of any government in history. If the majority of people fail to learn from the mistakes of the past, we are all doomed to repeat the mistakes of the past. Knowledge is power and people who seek power see a book like 1984 as something that is good, as they are the ones who seek to control and use that level of power over others for their own gain. The people who seek such power never see their own actions as wrong, as they are too busy seeking power over others and ignoring anyone who suggests they cannot have ever more power.

    We all need to stand up and speak out against moves like this before the level of control is so great that no one can speak out, for fear of what the people in power will be able to do to anyone standing up and speaking out. Democracy has to be defended by each generation and the more this level of power grows, the more we are all going to be forced by their actions to stand up and speak out against the ones who seek such power over everyone.

    1. Re:Six degrees of separation game by tendrousbeastie · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Doesn't matter.

      Oppression through overt force is very second millenium. Nowadays it is done by convincing the people that your evil scheme is something they really want and strive for, even choose to pay for.

      Opt in is no defence in the face of socialogical statistical manipulation.

      Following the chap above's reference to 1984 - the central theme of the book wasn't simply that there was a totalitarian state, but rather that such a state existed and it had managed to make the population believe in and love it.

      However (to calm things down a second) it could just be that Google can see the increase hits inherent in this plan, and therefore the increased ad revenue.

    2. Re:Six degrees of separation game by FatdogHaiku · · Score: 3, Funny

      ...it could just be that Google can see the increase hits inherent in this plan, and therefore the increased ad revenue.

      And if they happen to deliver an ad (for 50 cents off, mayhap) to you for the doughnut shop you are walking past, well that's just frosting (or glaze... or SPRINKLES, ahhhhh) on the cake of life.

      Really, if some ominous "they" want to track you then "they" already know your banking info and attendant RFID signatures, vehicle profile and numbers, list of known or possible associates, etc..

      If you were THAT big a question mark to "them", "they" would already be at your d

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    3. Re:Six degrees of separation game by TFloore · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Really, if some ominous "they" want to track you then "they" already know your banking info and attendant RFID signatures, vehicle profile and numbers, list of known or possible associates, etc..

      This is true, but there are other issues to consider with this.

      For example, one of the things that is legal in the United States is for the police to follow you around throughout your day, seeing where you go, who you talk to, when you scratch your butt walking down the street. There's plkenty of case law supporting the idea that as long as you are in public areas, the police can follow you as much as they want, given their resource limitations.

      That last limitation is VERY important, especially in a mostly free society like the United States or other free democracies/republics/whatever.

      The police should have the power (with reasonable oversight) to do what they need to do to enforce good laws. I'll define "good laws" in the US context as "constitutional". One of the ways they do this is following "people of interest" around.

      This is a VERY different thing from the police putting a GPS transponder on every car in America, and looking through their logs for nearby vehicles when a convenience store gets robbed. It is also different form the police logging your location information from cell tower triangulation (or cellphone GPS) and, again, looking through their logs to find all the people near a crime scene when it occurred.

      The first starts with suspicion. They must already have a reason to be interested in you, because assigning a police officer, or more likely several of them, is a very resource-intensive operation. They don't do it a lot because there are only so many cops. This is, societally, on purpose. We limit police power by making it hard and expensive for the police to poke their nose into your business.

      GPS logging into a database, and then a simple database query for "every person near YYY at time ZZZ" is cheap. It is too easy for the police to poke their nose into the business of the generally law-abiding public.

      It isn't that the technology is easy or hard. It isn't really that is it cheap or expensive in dollars to acquire the capability initially. It is that it is cheap to operate all the time, and makes it too easy and cheap for the police to poke their noses into private citizens' business with little reason, justification, or oversight. That's a good way to get bad police.

      Don't design systems that make it easy to get bad police. It is too dangerous to our society.

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  34. Re:Big brother knows where you are by Klaus_1250 · · Score: 2, Informative

    Why in the world would they need a GPS?

    They want to tax people on a per-road and time basis, to combat high way traffic jams in peak hours. Odometers won't work for that, plus, they can be tampered with. With a GPS-signal, you can crosscheck it with license plate registration camera's (they use them for speed checks). Difficult to fool the system, plus, they're going to put insane fines/jail time on tampering.

    Or, of course, they can simply tax the gasoline which essentially does the same thing, or maybe they already do that :).

    They already do that. In fact, I think we have the third highest gasoline prices in the world (diesel is cheaper). And that is next to the annual road tax and a special car tax on top of the sales tax.

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  35. What could possibly go wrong? by kheldan · · Score: 2, Insightful

    In my opinion you're insane if you allow anybody to track you. It ***WILL*** get abused by somebody.

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  36. Re:Big brother knows where you are by BeerCat · · Score: 4, Informative

    See, I would recommend actually reading 1984, rather than quoting a single line from it and saying, "Seems to me...".

    Let's see:

    Original claim - 1984 didn't advocate tracking the whereabouts of the citizens at all times.
    Single line quote - refutes claim.

    More proof (contained in the link)

    "The telescreen received and transmitted simultaneously. Any sound that Winston made, above the level of a very low whisper, would be picked up by it, moreover, so long as he remained within the field of vision which the metal plaque commanded, he could be seen as well as heard. There was of course no way of knowing whether you were being watched at any given moment. How often, or on what system, the Thought Police plugged in on any individual wire was guesswork. It was even conceivable that they watched everybody all the time. "

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  37. Dangerous Road by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Interesting

    GPS tracking should scare the shit out of people. I don't think many people see just how easy it will be for governments to grant themselves access to this information. All it will take is a single incident for the courts to decide that it is acceptable to subpoena these companies to find out who was within X meters/miles of X/Y coordinates at Z time.

    Make sure you never walk within 1000 meters of any crime, for you may wind up becoming a prime suspect for being in the wrong place at the wrong time. A single incident is all it will take to open these flood gates. Most likely a "think of the children/what do you have to hide" when a child goes missing or somesuch.

    Really, GPS may have some cool possibilities, but you're fooling yourself if you think using any GPS tracking service is not going to be subjected to the possibility of all your tracking data being handed over to the authorities whenever it is deemed necessary to solve a crime/prevent terrorism, etc.

    But of course, giving up privacy for "national security" is worth it, right?

  38. The old trick by chord.wav · · Score: 3, Insightful

    The old "parents wanting to know where their children are" trick!

    It wouldn't surprise me if media suddenly start to emphatize missing child cases...

    What would you be teaching to your kid if you did that? Only that it is OK for an authority to know where they are/what they do, anytime... You'd be stripping away their right to privacy before they realize how important it is.
    If I need to hear from him, I'll just call him.

  39. A perfect example by professorguy · · Score: 2, Insightful

    I think you are trying to show that my script idea would be bad because it could be used against me. And then I couldn't rely on google maps to track my wife. However, if you think I believe having the ability to track my wife is a good thing (or, indeed, anybody being able to track anybody), you are wrong. In fact, wanting that ability is surely the sign of some mental defect.