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Euro Parliament Wants "Red Button" For Shutting Down Games

GamePolitics writes "The European Parliament has actually requested that red, panic-style buttons be set up for use by parents whose children play online games. The buttons would allow the parents to quickly shut the game down should something inappropriate occur. Wouldn't the old-school on-off switch work just as well?" To be fair, the report isn't entirely crazy; it says games "can also be used for educational and medical purposes," and acknowledges that the "presence of violence in video games does not automatically lead to violent behaviour."

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  1. Let's teach kids to make hardware mods early by Mrs.+Grundy · · Score: 5, Funny

    Seriously.

    1. phillips head screwdriver (to open case)
    2. wire cutter (to cut leads to switch)
    3. wire nut (to short circuit around switch)
    4. profit?

    The really clever kids will find a way to install a software patch that makes any game say "Show us your tits!" every time the button is pressed.

    When I was a kid, my parents had a 'red button' called a leather belt. It was much harder to hack.

    1. Re:Let's teach kids to make hardware mods early by aerthling · · Score: 5, Funny

      When I was a kid, my parents had a 'red button' called a leather belt. It was much harder to hack.

      Harder to hack, my arse! When this happened to me, I used to modify the client (my bottom) by increasing the resistance (extra underpants) and return a spoofed result to the server.

    2. Re:Let's teach kids to make hardware mods early by Faylone · · Score: 3, Funny

      Yep, except it didn't take him a whole half an hour.

  2. Sounds a bit useless by TheLink · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Sounds useless, but to answer the question - using the power switch could cause file system corruption.

    So if you could rig this up to the equivalent of "Alt-F4" then you can avoid that.

    As for why it's useless, if your child is not ready to see "stuff", and they see "stuff", and then you press the panic button, they won't _unsee_ stuff. In fact, they would probably remember it for a very long time.

    If your child is not ready, just don't let them play such games, and perhaps you should work harder at getting them ready.

    You don't send soldiers to battle untrained and unarmed.

    Brainwash/domesticate your kids before the world does it for you (they want your kids to buy/believe their stuff without thinking too much or even at all).

    Yes you may think brainwashing is wrong. But it's usually better to train them "fire = bad", and hopefully they survive long enough to figure out the complexities and subtleties.

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    1. Re:Sounds a bit useless by sakdoctor · · Score: 3, Funny

      This reminds me of when I was playing Red alert 1 with my cousin, when we were teens.

      His mum got pissed off and hit the power switch.

      Then the UPS kicked in. It really lessened the impact she was going for.

    2. Re:Sounds a bit useless by IBBoard · · Score: 4, Insightful

      As for why it's useless, if your child is not ready to see "stuff", and they see "stuff", and then you press the panic button, they won't _unsee_ stuff. In fact, they would probably remember it for a very long time.

      If your child is not ready, just don't let them play such games, and perhaps you should work harder at getting them ready.

      Why let a little common-sense get in the way of a perfectly good law that lets parents blame everyone else but themselves for bad parenting decisions?

      I'm now a father and although he's only nine months old I'll probably do the same as my parents did: determine the suitability of the game based on the maturity of my son and let him play the GTA/Carmageddon equivalents before he hits the age rating if he can take it as it's meant - a game in a virtual world that has different rules to the real-world.

      Also, what's the betting that this is mainly a "for the sake of the children, hide the tiny, brief flashes of flesh" idea (which you're less likely to know about) rather than a "for the sake of the children, stop the massed bloodshed" idea (which generally tends to be obvious from the format of the game).

    3. Re:Sounds a bit useless by mike2R · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Also, what's the betting that this is mainly a "for the sake of the children, hide the tiny, brief flashes of flesh" idea (which you're less likely to know about) rather than a "for the sake of the children, stop the massed bloodshed" idea (which generally tends to be obvious from the format of the game).

      Probably not actually, since this is a proposal for a piece of misguided European legislation, rather than misguided US legislation.

      The EU has many many faults, but thankfully over-regulating the human nipple isn't often one of them.

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  3. Red Button Doesn't Seem To Be Literal by rsmith-mac · · Score: 4, Informative

    From the EU Parliament Press release:

    Until PEGI on-line is up and running, the report proposes fitting consoles, computers or other game devices with a "red button" to give parents the chance to disable a game or control access at certain times.

    Furthermore in the actual draft report, the word "button" never appears. As such, the red button doesn't seem to be a literal red button, rather a figurative term used in the press release as a euphemism for parental controls. I'm not sure how this is any different from how the current-gen consoles implement parental controls though.

  4. crappy summary of a bad summary by Tom · · Score: 5, Informative

    Ok, so this /. article links to an article that already is a bad summary of this press release, which sounds a little more enlightened:

    To help parents choose, MEPs would like to see more public awareness of the content of video games, parental control options and instruments such as the Pan-European Game Information (PEGI) age rating system.

    Sounds to me like they're doing the exact right thing: Making parents responsible and asking game companies to give them options.

    Now the actual "red button" part reads like this in the press release:

    the report proposes fitting consoles, computers or other game devices with a "red button" to give parents the chance to disable a game or control access at certain times.

    That does not sound like an emergency "off" switch to me. It sounds more like a timer thing, where a parent can tell the computer "no online games for my son after 22:00". Unfortunately, I couldn't find a source beyond the press release, so what exactly they have in mind remains a mystery. It does sound a lot less exciting than TFA makes it to be. Selective quoting, anyone?

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  5. Games are supposed to be educational by jsse · · Score: 5, Funny

    To be fair, the report isn't entirely crazy; it says games "can also be used for educational and medical purposes,"

    I do agree that sex and violent games are meant to be educational.

    Like last time I caught my cousin attempt to flirt with a CG girl in hope to have cyber sex. I pressed the magic red-button and gave him a few bucks, told him to go out and do a real girls like a real man.

    The other time I caught him shooting polygonal guys on streets with lots of bullets and first-aid boxes scattering around. Needless to say, I pressed the magic red-button again and gave him a shotgun, told him to hit the street and shoot real people like a real man.

  6. Universal Remote by im_thatoneguy · · Score: 4, Insightful

    They could employ the same system that the Xbox employs. Add an IR receiver.

    I already have a button which turns off my Xbox 360 in one button press. It's on my Logitch Harmony. When I press "Off" it turns off my hometheater, including my 360.

    If they want a quick "OMG boobs!" button then they just need a universal remote. Program it to the XBox's IR "Off" command and bam! Problem solved.

    If people start swearing I could just press the "mute" button and it'll mute my receiver.

    I guess the EU wants to legislate the ownership or at least education for parents to purchase a Universal Remote. PC games? Add an IR receiver. Again, mute is easy enough in windows. My keyboard has a mute button so there must be a hook. Also minimizing to desktop is a hotkey so that should be pretty easy to setup to an IR command as well.

    1. Re:Universal Remote by Weedlekin · · Score: 5, Funny

      "They could employ the same system that the Xbox employs. Add an IR receiver."

      A lot of people with an XBox 360 don't even have to go that far, because Microsoft have once again proved that they're ahead of curve, and have already equipped their system with a special facility that displays a red circle on the screen to indicate that all gaming has been suspended for an indefinite period. This lock-out mechanism so secure that the only way to resume gaming is by sending the machine back to Microsoft, where a specially trained technician will the reset the cunningly hidden Naughty Person flag, and then send it back after a suitable period has elapsed to teach people that being naughty has consequences.

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    2. Re:Universal Remote by hab136 · · Score: 3, Funny

      If they want a quick "OMG boobs!" button then they just need a universal remote. Program it to the XBox's IR "Off" command and bam! Problem solved.

      How does turning off the machine get me instant boobs? I think you have that backwards!

    3. Re:Universal Remote by HTH+NE1 · · Score: 4, Insightful

      I already have a button which turns off my Xbox 360 in one button press. It's on my Logitch Harmony. When I press "Off" it turns off my hometheater, including my 360.

      If they want a quick "OMG boobs!" button then they just need a universal remote. Program it to the XBox's IR "Off" command and bam! Problem solved.

      Too complicated. They need a device that is completely universal, works with all gaming consoles and computers now and in the future out-of-the-box, requires no programming, doesn't need batteries, and can be used without thinking at a moment's notice to disable the child-damaging violent games.

      What they need is a shotgun. Nothing else sends a clearer signal to your impressionable children that violence is wrong than a shotgun blast to their gaming console.

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  7. Re:On/Off Switch and Parenting by interkin3tic · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Like many people on Slashdot, I'm an advocate of responsible parenting: know what your children are doing (within bounds of privacy, dependent on the child's maturity), set reasonable boundaries, and take opportunities to discuss things with your children (i.e., make things learning experiences where possible).

    Okay smart guy, how is a politician like me going to get re-elected on the nanny vote with a message like that, hmm??? Newsflash: personal responsibility only sells at the polls if you're talking responsibility of people who aren't voting for you! Yeah, you obviously didn't think that one through, did you? That's why I'm a senator and you aint!

    (I know I don't need to point this out, but this was a joke)

  8. Use a spoon. by Eun-HjZjiNeD · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Why don't we just dig out the eyes of our kids so they never have to run the risk of seeing something the parents fear may harm the child... You all see how ridiculous this paranoid over-protectionist crap is, right?

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  9. Here is your button by KlaymenDK · · Score: 3, Funny

    For online pc games, a solution exists.

  10. When I was about 8 by Dr.+Hellno · · Score: 4, Insightful

    and this was just about 12 years ago, one of my friends told me about this awesome cheat code for Duke Nukem 3D where if you entered the code and then pressed space bar in front of a lady they would sing (or some other stupid thing). Of course, when I entered the code and hit space, the lady (stripper) took off her top and showed me her boobs (vague lumps with pink squares in the middle).
    Of COURSE, at this juncture, my mother entered the room. I don't remember the exact look on her face, as such, but attempting to recall it now, I envision Munch's "the Scream ( :O )"

    She told me to turn off the game, or I would be grounded, and would have no more access to the computer. That's it. No magic button was required. Her finger did not even have to touch some mundane "on/off switch". I took one last glance at the cardboard-pixel boobs dancing haltingly across my screen and decided that, whatever this was exactly, it wasn't worth the infinite punishments my mother seemed prepared to apply.

    Considering that day now, I don't see much need for some sort of "red button". Setting aside the fact that various consoles and televisions already have remotes with buttons serving the mandated purpose, I lay before you this objection: parents already have (very nearly) absolute power over their children. Button or no button, you can stop them from participating in any leisure activity that you feel is inappropriate with little more than a threat and a stern tone of voice. You certainly have the power to take away any consoles or computers which might allow them to defy your violence/profanity/digital-titty embargo.

    A button makes it easier, less personal, more secret. It also puts an additional burden on the video game industry, to the glee of family values groups everywhere. It is not a necessarily solution. It is at best a crutch used to control your offspring, and at worst a lie used to manipulate them.

    Should you ever see your children looking at something that you don't think they should see, then tell them that they can either stop, or lose some privileges.

  11. Leave it to Slashdot... by Max+Romantschuk · · Score: 4, Informative

    Leave it to Slashdot sensationalism to spin an EU report which is generally very positive towards gaming as some kind of evil plot...

    Read the Reuters article in the summary for more info on what this was actually about:
    http://uk.reuters.com/article/healthNewsMolt/idUKTRE51A60H20090211

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  12. "Red Button" - I like it; but we need more by Bearhouse · · Score: 3, Insightful

    So many other things could also do with a panic button to shut things down "should something inappropriate occur"; the list is endless, but we could start with:
    - The international banking system, (too late)
    - The North Korean politburo
    - The Australian parliament
    - The Canadian parliament and,
    - The European parliament!

  13. Re:No IR needed to toggle power switch by h4rm0ny · · Score: 5, Insightful


    I've got a better one. Tell your child to stop playing the game. If a parent can see what their child is doing in order to press a red button, then they can just as easily tell their child what not to do.

    Relying on physical means to control your child's behaviour only sends the message that physical means are the only means to control their behaviour and if they can avoid or counter the physical means, they can behave as they wish. Are the people who proposed this bill afraid of their own children? Is physical control what they rely on?

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  14. The other button by 3.14159265 · · Score: 3, Funny

    Europeans also would like a "Red Button" for shutting down Parliament. Wishful thinking.

  15. Bender got it right this time... by Durinthal · · Score: 4, Funny

    Have you ever tried simply turning off the TV, sitting down with your children, and hitting them?

  16. Re:No IR needed to toggle power switch by pla · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Er, and what do you do when the child says no?

    You walk over and unplug it, and take it away for a week or three.

    That way, they quickly learn that undesired cooperation on the short term can result in a greater net gain in the long run.

    You can back up your demands with physical action, but you probably shouldn't start by putting a pickaxe through the PS3.

  17. Re:No IR needed to toggle power switch by Ritchie70 · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Er, no.

    Someone doing what you say doesn't depend on physical means, it depends on respect.

    Plenty of parents exert lots of control over their high school students - even though there's no physical advantage.

    Otherwise I'd never be able to get the 6'4" kid I live with to do anything, cause I'm pretty sure I can't take him in a fight.

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  18. Re:No IR needed to toggle power switch by ckaminski · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Raising kids is about respect, and give and take... knowing which battles you absolutely have to win, and which are just distractions. I don't have kids, but I do have a ton of nieces and nephews, and while running around the house and causing havoc are things I generally allow (all the breakables get put away before the nerf guns come out), there are rules I have that are disobeyed at their own peril (no running or playing on stairs) and they know this.

    That said, I know I'm going to be cursed with triplet girls when it's my time... Lol.

  19. Re:No IR needed to toggle power switch by geminidomino · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Mine did the same thing back in the late 80's BBS era. Her trick was to take the phone off the hook in her bedroom and lock the door to keep me from staying up all night.

    My trick was to ride my bike to the public library, get a book on telephony, and install a cutoff switch for her extension in the bathroom on the other side of the wall. ;)