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Square Enix To Buy Eidos, Midway Files For Bankruptcy

arcticstoat writes to tell us that Square Enix has been revealed as the potential buyer to Eidos, developer of the Tomb Raider franchise. Eidos had been shedding workers and studios in an attempt for financial stability. This comes alongside news that Midway Games is filing for Chapter 11 bankruptcy in order to stave off creditors while they sort out what's left of their resources. World of Goo publisher Brighter Minds Media also filed for bankruptcy last month. Free Radical, a UK studio recently put in a similar position was snapped up by Crytek, and we discussed news of Sega's financial turmoil as well. It seems that claims from late last year suggesting the games industry may be "recession proof" are quickly being proven wrong, though Kotaku suggests that most of the blame falls on the developers.

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  1. Re:Chrono Trigger?? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Chrono Cross is an average PS1-era JRPG which is hardly similar to Chrono Trigger. It's a "spiritual sequel" in name only.

  2. Midway files for bankruptcy? by serviscope_minor · · Score: 5, Funny

    Midway files for bankruptcy? I think that's a...

    FATALITY

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    1. Re:Midway files for bankruptcy? by Darth_brooks · · Score: 5, Funny

      Ch. 11 offers protection from creditors while you attempt to reorganize, While Ch 7 is outright bankruptcy. Sometimes it works, usually you're just staving off the inevitable. So the correct joke to use here is...

      FINISH HIM!

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  3. Great rhetoric from the game industry by moderatorrater · · Score: 4, Insightful

    "I think all of the smart publishers are looking at ways to add-on to existing games," Kramer said. "It stems the flood of used game sales and every used game sale is money out of the pockets of the developer and publisher."

    What fucktards. Either they believe the rhetoric that they spew or they expect us to believe it, and either way it makes them look like assholes.

    1. Re:Great rhetoric from the game industry by N1AK · · Score: 4, Insightful

      What fucktards. Either they believe the rhetoric that they spew or they expect us to believe it, and either way it makes them look like assholes.

      Of course they believe what they are saying, do you think they'd be trying to kill the used market if they thought it actually made them more money? Regardless of whether it does, asking whether they think it is a redundant question.

      Outright assuming that the used market does make them more money also limits the value of the opinion. Most of the time when people make the case for second hand games benefiting the market they base the arguement on so many assumptions that it means nothing:
      1/ Some proportion of money raised from the sale of used games is used to buy new games. This proportion, along with the related figures on how much is spent on other things and how much is spent on other used games does not appear to be known, and is vital to understanding whether the used market is beneficial.
      2/ Systems like Steam and subscription based games seem to do very well among more technical users who are the most likely to care about companies restricting re-sale, if that is the case then do none technical users really care.
      3/ Used sales provide another form of competition against new game sales. Figures on how much effect this has in bringing down prices of new games is something that would effect whether used games sales are more profitable for games distributors. Certainly looking at controlled channels like Xbox arcade, Steam and the Wiis equivalent it seems prices stay higher for longer due to lack of competition from re-sale.

      I don't like the idea of used games sales being blocked, but I know better than to think that choosing to blindly believe that it is a bad idea for the games producers to do it will somehow stop it happening.

  4. Re:Chrono Trigger?? by MindlessAutomata · · Score: 3, Funny

    The last thing I want is a level 5 dwarf (haha) providing me my OS.

    If Gimli tells you to install Linux you better DAMN well install Linux.

  5. Sweeping statements by Shrike82 · · Score: 5, Insightful
    From the summary:

    It seems that claims from late last year suggesting the games industry may be "recession proof" are quickly being proven wrong

    Labelling an entire industry "recession proof" seems a bit excessive. Any games company with a solid fanbase, probably through years of making good quality games and having good customer support, are unlikely to be affected too badly by the global economy problems. Sure, things are a bit tighter for me money-wise now, but I'm sure as hell not going to stop buying games. A good business model and high quality products, for a receptive market sounds like a winner to me. But a bad games company, making bad games and treating their customers like idiots, criminals, or flat out ignoring them, is going to go under no matter what. Recession just speeds things up, and being in an industry considered "safe" from economic problems isn't going to save you one little bit.

    Another approach to riding out a recession is to create games that are mind-bendingly addictive, and provide income month-after-month. Anyone for WoW?

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    1. Re:Sweeping statements by elrous0 · · Score: 2, Funny

      Look at it this way. With everyone out of work and having plenty of free time, it will be a helluva lot easier to raise enough people for large raids.

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  6. Re:Chrono Trigger?? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

    It's a "spiritual sequel" in name only.

    It's not even a "spiritual" sequel -- it's a sequel, period.

    That's what you call a game like Chrono Cross that uses many of the same game mechanics, is explicitly set in the same world, and is packed with references to the previous game, including appearances by several of the main characters. (Did you miss that Kid was brought up by Lucca, or that the end boss was Schala merged with Lavos?)

  7. Abandonware by michaelmalak · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Does this mean we can look forward to more abandonware of classic videogames?

    1. Re:Abandonware by elrous0 · · Score: 3, Informative

      Technically, the intellectual property of a company that goes bust is considered an asset and is usually sold off as part of their liquidation. So, even if Midway ultimately goes completely bust, it's likely someone else will just snap up the rights to all their best games and franchises. Considering the way things have been going lately, it will probably be EA. They seem to own just about everything else these days.

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  8. Re:Don't blame developers, blame used-game reselle by Wooky_linuxer · · Score: 2, Interesting

    It doesn't matter if it is a factor in declining game sales or not. You have a damn right to resell whatever you bought - it's YOURS, not theirs. Car sales have declined much more and no one thinks of forbidding people to sell used cars in order to fix that.

    People have less money, they will buy cheaper games - and less games altogether, since they are somewhat frivolous items. That is expected, and the game industry should learn to deal with it without finding a scape goat. Cut your development costs, your marketing budget, make better games. And stop whining.

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  9. Re:Don't blame developers, blame used-game reselle by Lord+Kano · · Score: 2, Interesting

    The only reason why people are willing to pay as much as they are for new games is because they know that they can sell them later. The used game market props up the new game market.

    LK

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  10. Chrono Cross by jgtg32a · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Chrono Cross was good it just couldn't match CT.

  11. Shit by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

    Can't wait to get grind and magic spells in Hitman V: Shadow Crystal

  12. Re:Chrono Trigger?? by dctoastman · · Score: 3, Informative

    And by "a lot of people", you mean you.

    Chrono Cross is an excellent game in its own right and was received really well when it came out.

  13. So in the next Tomb Raider... by damien_kane · · Score: 2, Funny

    It will be revealed that Lara is actually a man...

    They'll only take away half of her cup-size, though.
    As we all know, SE only makes male leads (except in the craptastic FFX-2), but they all look like girls

  14. Re:Developer Ego by Mango+Fett · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Some of this is due to big developer "ego". Ignoring the Wii/DS because it isn't as sexy as the big consoles - trying to dictate to the market then listening to it and changing your strategy accordingly.

    I'm not sure about that. The Wii gets plenty of 3rd party love, but those games don't sell as well. The attach rate for the Wii is friendly to existing Nintendo franchises, not 3rd parties. On the PS3 and 360, the 3rd parties get more attention from consumers. If anything, I think the Wii deserves less attention.

    http://www.gamasutra.com/php-bin/news_index.php?story=20988

  15. Re:Chrono Trigger?? by Rycross · · Score: 3, Insightful

    I kinda liked Chrono Cross as its own game, but as a sequel to Chrono Trigger? No. I have to agree with the posters above.

    Dual and Triple techs were so sparse you could play the entire game and never use one. They threw in FOURTY characters, which means you had a lot of characters that were worthless to the plot, and a lot of characters with trivial backstories that diluted the plot. To deal with the over-abundance of playable characters, they watered down the magic system so that everyone shared the same spells, bar 3 unique abilities per character. This is in stark contrast to Trigger.

    For the most part, Chrono Trigger doesn't come into play, until the end of the game where they throw in "oh, and the bosses you're fighting are related to Trigger!" The plot was needlessly convoluted. The whole dragon thing was just... meh; it was trying too hard.

    Overall, it felt like they took an average jRPG, tacked on some Chrono Trigger backstory, and then called it a sequel. Most Chrono Trigger fans that I've talked to agree on this point.

  16. Re:Developer Ego by 7Prime · · Score: 3, Insightful

    That's because all of the developers only put their C and D teams on Wii/DS, and save their AAA teams for the 360/PS3. Then everyone's surprised, or angry at Nintendo when those games aren't good and don't sell very well. NO SHIT! If they were smart and spread their investments, giving equal time and creative resources to the Wii as they do for the 360/PS3, they'd be raking in the doah. If investment bankers used the same formula that these companies do, they'd be out of a job. Look where the money is. The Wii has about 1.5x as many users as both the 360 and PS3 COMBINED. When programming for 360/PS3, you have to hire extra programmers to port, and the PS3 is not very friendly to program on, especially when a game is already programmed for the 360. There are literally dozens of titles that do not use all the latest graphics that the 360 or PS3 offer, that would work perfectly fine on the Wii, but devs choose to release on the more troublesome duel-platform 360/PS3 option.

    This is simple arrogance mixed with a Bush-esque "stay the course" type attitude. There's no good excuse for leaving the Wii in the dust

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