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Samsung Releases Solar-Powered Phone

Mike writes to tell us that Samsung has released their latest green gadget, a solar-powered mobile phone. The "Blue Earth" phone has the entire reverse side covered with a solar panel, and the body of the phone is made from recycled water bottles. "The device is set to be energy efficient, with a new user interface making it easy to activate the phone's energy saving mode. It also includes a pedometer, and CO2 emissions calculator, and Samsung is aiming for minimal packaging made entirely from recycled paper. Samsung is clearly throwing the gauntlet to all phone manufacturers, and we hope to see solar cells integrated throughout the rest of their line. The phone will be unveiled on February 16th at the Mobile World Congress in Barcelona."

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  1. Solar-powered? by Hogwash+McFly · · Score: 1, Funny

    But I live in my parent's basement you insensitive clod!

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    1. Re:Solar-powered? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Who modded this Troll?
      It's a well known fact that basements have poor sunlight incidence!!! WTF?!

  2. except it's no longer mobile. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    So this is a mobile phone, but I can't just leave it in my pocket? Or in my car unless I put it on the dash and park in the sun? OK..... and this is an improvement how?

    1. Re:except it's no longer mobile. by spud603 · · Score: 0, Redundant

      Either you're missing the point or you're a troll.
      It still has a battery, and can still be charged from the grid. It just also can be charged by the sun.

    2. Re:except it's no longer mobile. by Dan541 · · Score: 1

      It saves power.

      Leave a phone on the dashboard of your car and I guarantee when you get back, you will no longer need the charger.

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    3. Re:except it's no longer mobile. by curtinparloe · · Score: 1

      You have to buy a car? that's not very good for the environment...

      It's a great idea, and I like the look of it. I think I prefer having a separate solar charger though, so I wouldn't have to remember to leave it out in daylight. Besides, if it's separate from the phone you could incorporate a wind-up facility, which would be incredibly useful, especially living where I do in the land of snow and ice (England).

    4. Re:except it's no longer mobile. by Hurricane78 · · Score: 1

      Yes. Because you no longer have a phone.

      At least, that's how it works in my city...

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    5. Re:except it's no longer mobile. by Dan541 · · Score: 1

      I see much more value in this phone if you are going camping, England should have almost 100% phone coverage of the landmass so a mobile phone should be sufficient communication, a problem I see is rain, if you have a separate solar panel your phone could remain safely within the tent.

      While the built in solar panel certainly earns some geek points I still think separate solar panels are the way to go.

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    6. Re:except it's no longer mobile. by ciderVisor · · Score: 1

      Whoosh much ?

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  3. Suspiciously absent: Battery details by jandrese · · Score: 3, Insightful

    So the first question that comes to my mind when someone says "solar powered cellphone" isn't "does it have a pedometer", but rater "how long does it take to recharge and how long does the battery last". For some reason TFA answered my first question, but not the second.

    Right now I tend to recharge my phone at night because I use it during the day. This could be a problem with a solar powered cell phone. If it's power efficient enough that I can leave it on my desk at work (under standard fluorescent lighting) and keep it fully charged then this could be great. If I have to leave it on a windowsill in direct sunlight for half of the day every day, it's far less practical.

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    1. Re:Suspiciously absent: Battery details by jellomizer · · Score: 5, Funny

      Right now I tend to recharge my phone at night
      This wouldn't be a problem if you lived in Australia. When it is night in the USA it is daylight there.

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    2. Re:Suspiciously absent: Battery details by girlintraining · · Score: 2, Funny

      This wouldn't be a problem if you lived in Australia. When it is night in the USA it is daylight there.

      I think I see a flaw in your cunning plan: They don't sell 4,000 mile long extension cords at Home Depot.

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    3. Re:Suspiciously absent: Battery details by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I...smell...NICHE MARKET!!11! :D









      (lameness filter is laaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaame)

    4. Re:Suspiciously absent: Battery details by davester666 · · Score: 1

      Fedex!

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    5. Re:Suspiciously absent: Battery details by djupedal · · Score: 1

      A similarly configured Chinese mobile phone takes one hour to recharge with forty minutes talk time. Sit near a window or go outside...the sunlight will do you good :)

      Solar charging is simply one attribute of the overall 'green' theme, which includes being made of and packaged in recycled materials. The take-away is the move towards 'green', not just solar charging.

    6. Re:Suspiciously absent: Battery details by Tumbleweed · · Score: 2, Funny

      I think I see a flaw in your cunning plan: They don't sell 4,000 mile long extension cords at Home Depot.

      DIY and make your own!

    7. Re:Suspiciously absent: Battery details by Hognoxious · · Score: 2, Funny

      "does it have a pedometer"

      Won't somebody think of the children?

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    8. Re:Suspiciously absent: Battery details by chris_mahan · · Score: 1

      You mean 12000 miles long extension cords, right?

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    9. Re:Suspiciously absent: Battery details by fuzzyfuzzyfungus · · Score: 1

      I'd be worried about the battery's overall lifetime. Lithium ion, the only reasonable choice for modern cellphone applications, doesn't last forever as it is, and dies faster if kept at elevated temperatures. Making a phone that encourages the user to leave it lying in bright sunlight seems like a potential issue. That said, I'm just a guy spouting off on the internet, Samsung could easily have run the numbers and determined that the battery will only die 10% faster, or some acceptable value; but that would be my concern.

    10. Re:Suspiciously absent: Battery details by geekoid · · Score: 1

      It also comes with a charger.

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    11. Re:Suspiciously absent: Battery details by geekoid · · Score: 1

      "DIY and make your own!"

      OK, you win. That's the most redundant thing ever posted on /.

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    12. Re:Suspiciously absent: Battery details by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You could just string together ~3 million 25' extension cords*, which you'll easily find in any hardware store.

      *length based on google's directions from LA to Sydney. Which, btw, I'm not sure their algorithm is all that great. It had me going way out of my way and over several toll roads.

    13. Re:Suspiciously absent: Battery details by stevey · · Score: 1

      So you buy 2 x 2,000 mile long extension cables? Then join them together?

      You are a genius, sir!

    14. Re:Suspiciously absent: Battery details by drpt · · Score: 1

      you could use a couple of mercury vapor lights and make a charging station

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    15. Re:Suspiciously absent: Battery details by camperdave · · Score: 3, Funny

      Won't somebody think of the children?

      Relax! A pedometer is simply a device used to measure the height of children. It typically consists of a vertical markable surface like a doorframe or wall, a pencil, and a tape measure.

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    16. Re:Suspiciously absent: Battery details by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Not if you drill straight through. Pfft, the number of people who waste copper by going around walls and planets...

    17. Re:Suspiciously absent: Battery details by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It also has a battery you fucking moron, the solar panel just adds the ability to charge in the sun AS WELL AS the ability charge via a normal charger.

      What is it with people thinking this? You're the third fucking idiot in the thread to think that solar panels and charging jacks are mutually exclusive.

      Please report to a culling station. You're diluting my gene pool.

    18. Re:Suspiciously absent: Battery details by snero3 · · Score: 1

      I love this idea, I think that you have missed the whole idea of the phone admittedly it TFA didn't really point it out that well.

      The first reason I love this one is what it is made out of. If you are like me your phone will only last 1 year dude to abuse. So if the phone is already made of recyclable materials I feel less guilty when I get rid of it a year later.

      The second reason is the solar changer. Again I think you missed the point of the solar part of this phone (and the author of the article did to). I don't believe the the solar panel is there to charge the phone completely from zero(it has a wall charger for that), but rather it is there to add a little charge to the phone from time to time. For people that don't spend 99% of there life in doors IE out in the sun and away from wall sockets then this can be a real boon.

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    19. Re:Suspiciously absent: Battery details by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Won't somebody think of the children?

      Relax! A pedometer is simply a device used to measure the height of children. It typically consists of a vertical markable surface like a doorframe or wall, a pencil, and a tape measure.

      you earned your "whooosh"

    20. Re:Suspiciously absent: Battery details by MichaelSmith · · Score: 1

      Won't somebody think of the children?

      Relax! A pedometer is simply a device used to measure the height of children. It typically consists of a vertical markable surface like a doorframe or wall, a pencil, and a tape measure.

      you earned your "whooosh"

      As did you.

    21. Re:Suspiciously absent: Battery details by fractoid · · Score: 1

      So the first question that comes to my mind when someone says "solar powered cellphone" isn't "does it have a pedometer", but rater "how long does it take to recharge and how long does the battery last".

      I think the second part is important, especially as high temperatures tend to dramatically shorten the lifespan of Lithium batteries. Leaving your phone in the car or in direct sunlight on a hot day can make it very hot, I can't imagine it would be very good for a battery to be in a small black enclosure that's regularly left in the sun.

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    22. Re:Suspiciously absent: Battery details by rts008 · · Score: 1

      It's just an adapter away...

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    23. Re:Suspiciously absent: Battery details by rts008 · · Score: 1

      Yes, but how does this translate to a good walkthrough.htlm. to enable you to waste kids with no Karma loss?

      BAH! kill them all and let FSM sort them out!

      Begin the games!

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    24. Re:Suspiciously absent: Battery details by johannesg · · Score: 1

      This wouldn't be a problem if you lived in Australia. When it is night in the USA it is daylight there.

      I think I see a flaw in your cunning plan: They don't sell 4,000 mile long extension cords at Home Depot.

      Try using the underseas internet cables with the power-over-IP extension!

    25. Re:Suspiciously absent: Battery details by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      He doesn't even have to live in Australia -- it's enough to keep his phone there.

    26. Re:Suspiciously absent: Battery details by ciderVisor · · Score: 1

      So the first question that comes to my mind when someone says "solar powered cellphone" isn't "does it have a pedometer ?"

      It's Pedobear's first question.

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    27. Re:Suspiciously absent: Battery details by ScreamingCactus · · Score: 1

      Optional accessory: a 15,000-candlepower indoor floodlight pointed in the corner for hi-speed recharge, day or night!

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    28. Re:Suspiciously absent: Battery details by berend+botje · · Score: 1

      Doesn't work. The voltage drop over those distances is too great. There's a reason power lines are at 400kV and up. Unless you propose a new Ethernet standard which could deal with those levels.

  4. The problem with that: by DurendalMac · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Most mobile phones stay in your pocket until you're ready to use them. When they're out, your hand is generally wrapped around the back. That kinda screws up the whole solar powered angle. The only time it might be useful is if you leave it sitting out in the sun when the battery dies. That's assuming you can set it down without getting it stolen. It sounds a lot more like a marketing gimmick than a useful feature.

    1. Re:The problem with that: by zigmeister · · Score: 1

      TFA shows an app on the phone that says how many trees you saved. What I don't get about green types is just that. I'll be the first to admit that this planet would really suck without trees, but why does it matter if we just replant after harvesting? Do trees have feelings that I'm not aware of? I'm really getting sick of tangential "green" products/methods/processes that wouldn't matter in the first place if your not an idiot with your resources. (i.e. suitable land, environment etc for trees)

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    2. Re:The problem with that: by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I'm assuming you can also plug it in to charge, in which case it is a very useful feature. Battery dead? No charger? Problem solved.

      I'm sure you can figure out how to set your phone down without it getting stolen.

    3. Re:The problem with that: by Gerald · · Score: 3, Interesting

      My use case is the opposite of yours. I use my phone infrequently enough that it has to bug me to charge it. I'd love to have one that could charge itself while lying face-down on my desk.

      The pedometer and CO2 calculator? Meh.

    4. Re:The problem with that: by joebok · · Score: 1

      I keep my phone in my pocket now because there isn't any reason not to. If I were able to charge it via solar, I would look for opportunities to take it out and do so. So I think it isn't 100% gimmick.

    5. Re:The problem with that: by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      No... just opens up a niche market for "cell phone holder hats", "wrist carriers", "inverted man-purses", etc.

      Remember kids - cell phones don't cause cancer... It's the environment, stupid!
      Strap one to your dome today!

    6. Re:The problem with that: by Smallpond · · Score: 1

      I don't think you appreciate the difference between natural forest and a clear-cut, replanted tree farm. It's like grass vs. astroturf. The replanted area is lacking all of the birds, plants, mammals, even bugs and microbes that are in the ecology of natural forest. It takes 100 years for a forest to recover from being clear cut. Trees might be what people think of as a forest, but they are only one element.

      That said, it does seem kind of silly to talk about solar cells "saving trees".

    7. Re:The problem with that: by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      *scratches head* Isn't CO2 tree food? I'd think the more coal and oil you burn, the more trees you feed.

    8. Re:The problem with that: by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      If you keep replanting after logging, then after a while you will be logging the area you previously replanted. I don't know you would replant if you don't plan to log that are again, so everything should be good. This idea makes me so happy that I'm burning 500 sheets of unused paper, just to do my part to help the replanting effort!

    9. Re:The problem with that: by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Id get one. Be handy out bush. Long drives where the phone could sit on the dash of the car, long as it wasn't to hot too pick up straight away. Hell, if there reasonably priced I may get one just for emergencies. Also its not often I go far out enough on a boat to get out of signal range, Id use the phone first before using an eprib if I got into any trouble. Seems expensive scrambling the chopper n response team cos my outboard wont start.

    10. Re:The problem with that: by inviolet · · Score: 1

      I don't think you appreciate the difference between natural forest and a clear-cut, replanted tree farm. It's like grass vs. astroturf. The replanted area is lacking all of the birds, plants, mammals, even bugs and microbes that are in the ecology of natural forest.

      As the owner of a replanted tree farm that is now 19 years old, I think you should know that your eloquent conjecture is completely false.

      It takes 100 years for a forest to recover from being clear cut.

      While you've got your hand in there, can you also pull some winning lottery tickets or perhaps a Grand Unified Field Theory out of your ass?

      Trees might be what people think of as a forest, but they are only one element.

      Yes, and the other elements waste no time in returning -- the whole "unfilled niches" or "available energy" thing. Sometimes the newcomers are different species than were there originally -- perhaps this offends your romanticized sense of 'natural'.

      That said, it does seem kind of silly to talk about solar cells "saving trees".

      Indeed it does, especially since more trees will get planted in response to increased demand for paper and wood products. Recycling reduces demand and hence ruins the economic incentive for preserving or creating a forest on one's property. I myself am directly affected by pulpwood prices, and every paper recycling program is a thorn in my side, encouraging me to ditch the trees and put the land to more profitable use.

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    11. Re:The problem with that: by BikeHelmet · · Score: 1

      Three things...

      1) If the trees actually get replanted, then that's fine, but despite the claims that "more trees are being replanted than harvested", the amount of planted forest is still shrinking quite rapidly. :P

      Perhaps forest is being cleared to make room for cities and farms, or for other reasons, but it's still getting cut all over the world!

      2) Creating water bottles makes a lot of pollution, and is quite bad for the environment. It's nice to see them recycling plastic rather than manufacturing it fresh.

      3) Trees do not appear to have feelings or emotions, but they could be aware of their surroundings to some degree.

      Studies have found that trees grow better when near siblings, parents, and children. Some scientists believe it's chemical similarities that are responsible for that - certain plants(weeds in particular) release chemicals that inhibit other plants growing, and help plants of the same species to grow. Since a "family" of plants would be quite biologically similar - or at least, more similar than plants of the same species growing hundreds of miles apart - the "family" of plants would grow best together.

      So although trees may not think or have emotion, they display biological felial/parental responses.

      Hopefully I worded that correctly.

    12. Re:The problem with that: by smoker2 · · Score: 1

      Yeah, like all those solar powered calculators with the solar panel ON THE FRONT !

    13. Re:The problem with that: by Fumus · · Score: 1

      How about a new trendy hat with a phone pocket?
      You'd look retarded and it would be begging to get stolen, but would charge easily.

    14. Re:The problem with that: by smoker2 · · Score: 1

      Yes I realise this phone has the panels on the back, but which way up would you leave if it had solar panels ...

    15. Re:The problem with that: by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      If you can sell your trees for paper and cardboard, sell them for wood. I know I wouldn't want to build things with "recycled wood" and I'm sure I'm not alone.

    16. Re:The problem with that: by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      IT HAS A FUCKING CHARGER AS WELL!

      Will you fucking retarded morons who think that that having a solar panel excludes the possibility of it having a battery and charging jack AS WELL just FUCK OFF AND DIE already.

      what, is this International Stupid Day or something?

    17. Re:The problem with that: by mgblst · · Score: 1

      Only if you are out walking all day long. Don't you have a desk at work, is so then just pull it out and put it near the window. Or in your car, pull it out and put it on the seat next to you. See, not so hard.

    18. Re:The problem with that: by priegog · · Score: 1

      Well, sure, but given how cheap solar cells are nowadays, aside from design costs I don't think adding a solar cell would add up to more than 5 bucks or something like that. For the few times that this feature might be useful it might actually not be such a bad idea... But really, in other to make a "greener" phone they NEED to start designing these things with longer userful live's in mind. 18 months average is awfully small. The laptop I'm writing this on is going to be six years soon, why couldn't my phone do that? They need to make the hardware more durable and the batteries' lives too (a-la OLPC). THEN would we be making a positive (or at least less negative) impact on earth.

    19. Re:The problem with that: by kenj0418 · · Score: 1

      A smarter plan would be to have a cell phone that charges by being in your pocket while you walk around during the day. Sort of like the flashlights that you shake to get a charge.: http://www.modernoutpost.com/gear/details/ee_shakelight.html

      IANA-Electrical Engineer, but seems like a more common use case than a phone sitting in direct sunlight.
      (I'm sure the whole thing is just a 'look at us - we're green!' marketing stunt anyway) (Not that I RFTA'd or anything like that)

    20. Re:The problem with that: by Nethemas+the+Great · · Score: 1

      I'm not entirely certain how Samsung is "throwing down the gauntlet" with this phone. To me it seems more like an eco-marketing gimmick but I'll let that go and stick to the reply...

      I suppose the notion with the solar panel thing is that the user habits are expected to change to accommodate the whole charging with the sun deal. What I find interesting about this isn't the "benefit" of solar charging to the user/environment but to the manufacturer who will be selling additional phones to replace those that were lost because the user left them setting somewhere to charge.

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    21. Re:The problem with that: by zzyzxddyzx · · Score: 1

      This idea might not see the light of day

    22. Re:The problem with that: by ScreamingCactus · · Score: 1

      I don't think you appreciate the difference between natural forest and a clear-cut, replanted tree farm. It's like grass vs. astroturf. The replanted area is lacking all of the birds, plants, mammals, even bugs and microbes that are in the ecology of natural forest.

      As the owner of a replanted tree farm that is now 19 years old, I think you should know that your eloquent conjecture is completely false.

      I'm sure your tree farm is doing just fine, but are you aware of how many corporations cut down forests full of diverse deciduous species and replant the whole area with pine trees? Also, a lot of times no one at all replants after logging.

      It takes 100 years for a forest to recover from being clear cut.

      I think he was saying was that many of the trees that are cut down are hundreds of years old, and having both old and new trees is important to the ecosystem. Also, there is no question as to whether deforestation wipes out whole species.

      Recycling reduces demand and hence ruins the economic incentive for preserving or creating a forest on one's property.

      Most people don't create or preserve a forest on their own property for an economic incentive. Perhaps you do because you're in the paper business, but I don't think our economy would crumble if everyone stopped printing off emails today.

      Of course solar cells don't save trees, but they do mean one less drain on the power supply, which means less carbon in the air, which is overall good for everybody. The phones are made of recycled plastic, not recycled paper, so I don't see how that's relevant here.

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    23. Re:The problem with that: by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You should think 'out of the box' a little. That is all so easily solved with a special made hat. The whole day you wear the hat, with the phone in it, solar cells face up. That way it doesnt get stolen or forgotten, is easy reachable when it rings, and gets charged by the sun. Of course, the hat is made of recycled paper.
      Additional options; build-in head set, more solar cells in the hat.
      Additional advantages: you can tell your boss your going outside to charge your phone.

      Put an ad of a sponsor on it, and the hat can be completely free too!
      Anyone trying to patent this; I was first!

  5. Long hike by seanadams.com · · Score: 1

    I have been kicking around the idea of doing the Appalachian trail and although I obviously want to get off grid, it would be nice to have a phone in case of life or death emergency. I wonder if this thing is small small and light... in that case, the built-in solar would be just the ticket.

    1. Re:Long hike by hguorbray · · Score: 2, Informative

      Given the fact that much of the AT is remote wilderness cell coverage is probably pretty spotty

      unfortunately satellite phones are a little too expensive as they would be a better alternative

      Good Luck with the AT hike

      my gf has wanted to hike parts of the AT for ages -maybe someday

      Also highly recommend -Bill Bryson's book on the AT: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A_Walk_in_the_Woods:_Rediscovering_America_on_the_Appalachian_Trail

      -I'm just sayin'

    2. Re:Long hike by TubeSteak · · Score: 1

      I have been kicking around the idea of doing the Appalachian trail and although I obviously want to get off grid, it would be nice to have a phone in case of life or death emergency.

      http://www.engadget.com/2009/02/13/digicel-launching-ztes-coral-200-solar-phone-in-emerging-market/

      "It may not have the glam or the flash of the Samsung Blue Earth, but ZTE's Coral-200-Solar takes solar power to a side of the market that needs it far, far more urgently -- the side without power outlets. The Chinese manufacturer is teaming up with Jamaica's Digicel Group to roll out one of the world's first mass-market solar cellphones to folks with "limited or no access to the power grid," which represents some 2 billion people around the globe."

      Samsung's phone is just a shiny lifestyle phone.
      ZTE's Coral-200-Solar actually embodies what you'd expect from a solar phone.

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    3. Re:Long hike by Locke2005 · · Score: 1

      I think you'd be better off with a solar backpack and the phone you already have. That being said, I suspect most of the Appalachian Trail has rather poor cellular coverage. In Washington state, I couldn't even connect while hiking Mt. St. Helens, which is pretty close to a major metropolitan area, despite having line-of-sight for about a 50 mile radius.

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    4. Re:Long hike by drinkypoo · · Score: 1

      Samsung's phone is just a shiny lifestyle phone.
      ZTE's Coral-200-Solar actually embodies what you'd expect from a solar phone.

      I can't help but notice that neither one is ruggedized, and that either one is going to require that you wear plastic pants if you want it to charge while in your pocket.

      Both phones are MASSIVE FAILs in my book, and I can't actually see anything on engadget that indicates that the Coral-200-Solar is actually better for off-grid use than the Samsung toy. In fact, the Samsung is smaller, which makes it arguably better for people who are operating on minimal resources as you can see every day in many countries: donkey+cellphone=IN BUSINESS. But let's face it, most of the gridless territory is either desert or rainforest or formerly rainforest but since slashed and burned. All of these environments demand ruggedized electronics.

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    5. Re:Long hike by leomekenkamp · · Score: 1

      Are the masts for connecting to the network close enough on the Appalachian trail? It would kind of suck if your phone works and has all the juice it needs, but reception is 0%...

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  6. Sorry to rain on the parade... by mail2345 · · Score: 1

    But how much will this thing cost? Or is there some other cost in practicality?

  7. looks sharp too by SoupGuru · · Score: 1

    I must compliment them for not compromising size and looks for the latest fads. That way it's not a gimmick and you won't just sell it to the treehuggers, you can sell it to the masses.

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  8. The solar cells are where? by damn_registrars · · Score: 2, Interesting

    The back of the phone doesn't seem the most reasonable place for them. Most people after all use their hand to hold on to the phone while talking - hence covering up the back of the phone while using it. And those who use bluetooth are often carrying the phone in their pocket, where one generally doesn't find much sun light, either.

    It looks like someone didn't do all their homework on this one...

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    1. Re:The solar cells are where? by __aasqbs9791 · · Score: 1

      It seems if you had a backpack or something with the solar cells on it, and a connection (maybe inside in the backpack?) to plug into devices to recharge them it would make a lot more sense than having each device have the solar cells on it.

    2. Re:The solar cells are where? by John+Hasler · · Score: 1

      > It seems if you had a backpack or something...

      A hat. A big, wide hat, covered with solar cells. Prevent skin cancer and save the world at the same time.

      Of course, unless Apple sells it it won't be cool.

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    3. Re:The solar cells are where? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I really cannot remember the last time someone talked on their handy without a bluetooth set. Why would you want to talk on the phone directly? To get cancer?

    4. Re:The solar cells are where? by __aasqbs9791 · · Score: 1

      A solar sombrero?

    5. Re:The solar cells are where? by damn_registrars · · Score: 1

      Why would you want to talk on the phone directly? To get cancer?

      Yeah, because bluetooth works on pure magic, and doesn't use any radio waves or anything else that we were previously worried about. Bluetooth actually works with little multilingual fairies carrying your voice through the air to your phone.

      And of course, if you're using a bluetooth there's a good chance your phone is in your pocket - we all know that nothing down there can get cancer, either.

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    6. Re:The solar cells are where? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Homework?

      Let's see - People want to believe that they are being green.

      GM sells a Hummer with a big eco-unfriendly nickel battery in it, at a huge premium. Walmart is painting itself in a big green banner. Sony sells TVs with the EnergyStar logo that draw 20 watts when they are off. GE sells refrigerators with the EnergyStar logo that cannot be used in the energy saver mode.

      Clearly you have confused marketing with reality. Please remove your tinfoil hat and proceed to the nearest Walmart for reprogramming.

    7. Re:The solar cells are where? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      So you NEVER put down your phone? For fuck sakes, when did talking on the telephone become a fucking 24x7 undertaking for so many people?

    8. Re:The solar cells are where? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Course people put down their phones. Still, when not in use, cellphones tend to either go into a pocket or a carrier of somekind. Not much (or usually any) sunlight in either.

    9. Re:The solar cells are where? by drinkypoo · · Score: 1

      And of course, if you're using a bluetooth there's a good chance your phone is in your pocket - we all know that nothing down there can get cancer, either.

      Well, if you get testicular cancer (where the rapid turnover of cells is occurring, after all) you can just drop one testicle. By the time it happens you probably won't need it anyway. Hell, I'd probably be happier with a silicone lump in there. Swap 'em both while you're in there, doc.

      Bluetooth functions at dramatically lower power levels than your cellular phone does, especially while you have poor signal, simply by virtue of not being intended to send the signal so far. If you're concerned about putting microwave radiation into your head (and you probably should be) then you should possibly consider that the bluetooth headset will reduce the irradiation of your cranium.

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    10. Re:The solar cells are where? by Ginger+Unicorn · · Score: 1

      The microwave radiation used in mobile phones is non-ionising. There is as much reason to expect a mobile phone to give you brain cancer as there is to expect your angle poise lamp to give you skin cancer. People hear the word "radiation" and it conjures up images like the incredible hulk, or men in hazmat suits hosing down contaminated reactor buildings. Radiation just means energy travelling away from a point source in all directions - it doesn't mean "deadly poison". Ionising Radiation is the kind that knocks electrons off of atoms, changing the structure of molecules, damaging cells/DNA, etc. This is not the kind of radiation emitted by cellphones.

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    11. Re:The solar cells are where? by damn_registrars · · Score: 1

      Well, if you get testicular cancer (where the rapid turnover of cells is occurring, after all) you can just drop one testicle. By the time it happens you probably won't need it anyway. Hell, I'd probably be happier with a silicone lump in there. Swap 'em both while you're in there, doc.

      While he likely didn't get it from a cell phone, Lance Armstrong would say otherwise about testicular cancer. When they caught it in him there were cancerous cells found throughout his body.

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  9. Light of day? by MMC+Monster · · Score: 1

    Do phones generally get a lot of sunlight?

    Kudos to them if the solar panel actually generates more energy than the energy cost of producing the panel. My cell phone is on my hip and I barely get enough light to keep from turning a pastey shade of grey. My wife's phone is generally in her pocketbook.

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  10. Small design flaw. by ColaMan · · Score: 1

    (checks image)

    So...... beautiful,glossy front screen.... which will be face-down 90% of the time on all sorts of unforgiving surfaces.

    The production version had better have a slightly raised edge all around that screen, otherwise it's going to be scratched in record time.

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  11. Solar powered, eh? by CrimsonAvenger · · Score: 1

    With this new phone, I'd have to leave it laying around during the daytime instead of letting it spend the day in my pocket. Which lowers the convenience of a cellphone considerably - normally mine is in my pocket until bedtime.

    In other words, not a terribly useful modification to the basic cellphone.

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    1. Re:Solar powered, eh? by sqldr · · Score: 1

      Ok, so somebody needs to invent a luminous ass.

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    2. Re:Solar powered, eh? by CrimsonAvenger · · Score: 1

      Ok, so somebody needs to invent a luminous ass.

      Not the hip pocket, the front pocket. So...something else needs to glow....

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  12. Recycled water bottles by HTH+NE1 · · Score: 1

    the body of the phone is made from recycled water bottles.

    Recycled water bottles, huh? How many calls can you make with it before it becomes toxic?

    Oh wait, that was an urban legend.

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  13. thermal model by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

    meh, i'd rather have one that was powered by the heat of my thigh.

    1. Re:thermal model by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Ew

  14. Green Plastic by elcorvax · · Score: 1

    The body of the phone is made out of recycled water bottles and has no brominated flame retardants, beryllium and phthalates - all incredibly toxic substances.

    This could be a real improvement, at the rate that people change cellphones now, the amount of the old tech trash is outrageous, so this could help to minimize the impact if it become a standard

  15. Sounded cool at first... by Zakabog · · Score: 1

    It sounded cool at first, I was thinking they'd have a solar panel charging device. Plug your phone into it while you're at work if you work in the day time by a window, and have it charge like that.

    This phone is far from that. Putting a solar panel on a phone seems rather useless, unless you intend to leave it out in the sun all the time. When you're walking around outside your phone will be in your pocket, when you're using it, your hand will cover the panel. Plus most people charge their phones at night, when there is no sun out to charge the phone. They've got the right idea but they're doing it all wrong.

    1. Re:Sounded cool at first... by miro+f · · Score: 1

      solar powered chargers already exist. You can buy one to charge more than just your mobile phone:

      http://www.multipoweredproducts.com.au/category18_1.htm

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    2. Re:Sounded cool at first... by Hognoxious · · Score: 1

      Typical engineer, always thinking of why it won't work.

      Now if you had real brains, like the guys in marketing, you'd be thinking of building the solar panels into a free hat. Or something.

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  16. In the event of a software failure by kkrajewski · · Score: 1

    Please place your phone in a dark place to reset.

    Or,
    (walks under tree) Can you hear me now?

  17. My pocket and my hand by pieisgood · · Score: 1

    So do I need to keep this phone on a clip on my belt so it can get some sun? I mean when I call people my hand will be pretty much all over those panels and they won't get any light. Does it recharge in the seconds it takes me to put the phone back in my pocket? And when will the panels be facing the sun? Do I need to hold the phone up when i use it for texting. This idea is retarded.

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  18. Nitpick by Daetrin · · Score: 1

    "Samsung is clearly throwing the gauntlet to all phone manufacturers"

    I believe there should be a "down" in there. As in "Samsung is clearly throwing the gauntlet down to all phone manufacturers." "Throwing the gauntlet to all phone manufacturers" makes it sound like they're just having a nice relaxing game of gauntlet catch.

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  19. yes, nice, samsung! by cadu · · Score: 1

    nice thinking, covering a device that stays the whole day in our pockets with solar panels. i guess you guys aren't being green at all, coz it's just a waste of perfectly usable solar panels....

    and don't get me started on putting it in the car near the winshield, do that in the $REALWORLD and you know what happens :)

    just my 2 yen.

  20. A pedometer by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    is a measuring device that can sense how much child pornography you have stored in your phone. It accomplishes this by detecting the amount of twist the radio waves picks up as they pass through the digital photographic film. In short, you can see how twisted you are.

  21. Solar powered by Hognoxious · · Score: 1

    So if you're on one of those plans that gives cheap or free minutes at night/evening, it's not a great deal of use?

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    1. Re:Solar powered by drinkypoo · · Score: 1

      Yes, just like my solar-powered flashlight, which doesn't have a battery which allows me to use it for longer than it is typically dark. Oh wait, it does... Perhaps you were trying to be humorously ironic, but instead you ended up being ironically humorous (especially since those free evening calling plans are precisely the perfect match for this phone, which can be charging during the day and in use at night.) So I guess this phone is marketed to people who sleep during the day.

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  22. Incorporate the "jot charge"... by 278MorkandMindy · · Score: 1

    ... and they will be on a winner!

  23. Over excited by Attila+the+Bun · · Score: 1

    Must buy green phone ... chuck out old gas-guzzling phone ... save planet ... feel warm and fuzzy ...

    Er, how much energy does it take to make the solar cells?

  24. Nokia did this (the solar part) 12 years ago! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    http://press.nokia.com/PR/199703/775637_5.html

    The actual phone (1610)looked pretty much the same than this Samsung here.

    1. Re:Nokia did this (the solar part) 12 years ago! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Ahem. Okay, maybe they didn't look that much the same. Anyways I think Nokia made those batteries for other phones (for example the infamous "venttikymppi" aka 2110) too.

  25. Solar is nice, but... by webdog314 · · Score: 1

    Wouldn't it be a better idea to generate power by walking instead of putting it into a lousy pedometer? The sun doesn't _usually_ shine too brightly into the pockets of my pants. Besides, what do I need a pedometer for anyway? That's what GPS is for.

  26. I'm actually interested. by Anachragnome · · Score: 1

    I remember being in a position once where I was stranded(had my wallet stolen) and the only way out of the situation was to make a phone call, only my phone battery was almost dead. I made the call, but got cut-off right after I explained my situation, but before I could relay my location. I ended up having to hunt for someone to borrow a phone from(easier said then done).

    With this phone, it wouldn't have been a problem. I could simply have sat down in the sun, and waited to be able to make a call.

    I can also think of situations in the back-country, where a tower is accessible for a signal, but no place to charge a battery.

    Could actually save a life.

  27. You saved 6.5 trees. Total 2014 trees. by ChangeOnInstall · · Score: 2, Insightful

    http://www.inhabitat.com/wp-content/uploads/samsungblueearth2.jpg

    I don't get it. How are you saving trees with this phone? Has Samsung employed a gang of vigilante loggers to cut them down if you do not walk a certain distance per day using the phone as a pedometer in "Eco walk" mode? Has there been a new scientific discovery that CO2 may in fact kill trees, negating the previous data that it is neutral or possibly even beneficial toward plant growth?

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  28. Kinetic is smarter by twoblink · · Score: 0, Insightful

    If you carry your cell phone on your persons as most do, then a kinetic system is better than solar. Most of the time, my cell is in my pocket, and so there is no light.

  29. Charging Solution by SinGunner · · Score: 2, Insightful

    This would work great if your job was outdoors and you had it clipped to your belt. Seems like it'd work well for construction?

  30. Ok, so it saves trees. by balbord · · Score: 1

    But does it give a report on the rare metals mined in deep Africa needed to build it?

    The geek-factor on one of these is huge and I'd be all over it like a prussian woodpecker over a Louis XIII Antique Chair, but all this greenness only makes sense to those willing to ignore the un-greenness of the whole manufacturing process.

    Bah. Why don't they just strap a mini gas turbine?

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  31. Watching the clouds drifting by by westlake · · Score: 1
    I could simply have sat down in the sun, and waited to be able to make a call.

    How long will you be waiting - and what is the range?

    1. Re:Watching the clouds drifting by by Anachragnome · · Score: 1

      My point is that it is better then NO battery juice.

      While it may take awhile, your not totally screwed.

      Better then dying at the bottom of a cliff, after lingering there miserably for days, all because your phone battery was dead.

  32. What OS? by Willbur · · Score: 1

    It looks vaguely android-esque. The clock looks the same, but there isn't a little tabby thing on the bottom of the screen - except there is a little tabby thing on one side.

    Is it Android? Or is cloned from the Android UI? Or is it just parallel evolution?

    Samsung has announced using Android for other phones.

  33. Green This by Zero_DgZ · · Score: 1

    I like the idea of this. A solar powered phone would be great (provided solar charging isn't the ONLY) option when I'm on the road or on a camping trip, or burn up all by battery life playing Tetris on the bus. Flip it over, leave it next to a window, forget about.

    What I'm not altogether keen on is the contrivance of bundling this with the "green" fad. I don't give two shits about how many trees the manufacturer hugged with designing the packaging, and I, for one, think that moulding phones out of recycled water bottles is more than a bit daft. Even if the phone doesn't wind up clear and crinkly, I don't think water bottle plastic of questionable origin and quality is a great idea for the casing of an expensive gizmo with a big fragile solar panel on the back.

    1. Re:Green This by BeaverCleaver · · Score: 1

      PET plastic is PET plastic. Who cares if it's been melted down and then re-cast?

      Anyway, that's why they're not turning the recycled bottle into FOOD-GRADE products. I'd prefer to have a phone made of "questionable" plastics than a drink bottle. Are you going to eat the phone? Still better to eat this offering from Samsung than a different model made from nice, "fresh" brominated flame retardants.

  34. big deal, China beat you to it by zelik · · Score: 1

    This is old news, there are a BUNCH of Chinese made cell phones being sold on infomercials in China with solar charging capabilities. They've been selling these for years....Here's a nicer looking example I quickly found just searching...not a fair representation of the lot because there are quite a few very repulsive looking ones.

    How good are they? I'm not sure as I've never used one but as far as I can tell from the ultra-cheesy infomercials, these phones are light years ahead of what the big cellphone makers are offering (heavy sarcasm). In fact, one ad I've seen mentioned 1 month standby time plus solar charging = no need for conventional wall charger!

    Actually, for kicks please read the link I just posted, there's a claim of purporting 40 minutes of talk time when charged by candlelight!

    For an example of how outlandish their infomercials are, check out this miracle vaginal cream. Contains English voice-over. I love China!

  35. Get a life by crevistontj · · Score: 1

    You people who shit all over every single new product need hobbies or something. Just because it doesn't work for you or isn't exactly what you need or can't play Ogg Vorbis files and doesn't run Ubuntu 8.08.12-a build 2108-c doesn't mean that it lacks value. If it isn't your perfect product ... don't buy it. New features are steps toward better features. Every idea has to start with a single product, usually one with an imperfect implementation. I applaud Samsung for doing something interesting and different and giving their customers more options.

  36. Stick it where the sun don't shine by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I wonder how fast it will recharge in my pocket? I really don't want to wear my cell phone on top of head...

  37. Skin Cancer by flyingfsck · · Score: 1

    Oh no, this phone will cause users to get skin cancer, since they will have to be outside all the time.

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    1. Re:Skin Cancer by Maelwryth · · Score: 2, Funny

      " Oh no, this phone will cause users to get skin cancer, since they will have to be outside all the time."
      Untrue.
      It will however cause a class action suit for neck injuries sustained while charging the phone during long conversations and, of course, multiple ear injuries due to idiots thinking gluing it there was a good idea.

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  38. Energy saving? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    One way I can see this backfire in terms of energy use.

    You get home late at night. You put your phone in your home office. Instead of plugging in the charger, you keep 240 W of lighting on overnight to charge the phone.

    1. Re:Energy saving? by Dan541 · · Score: 1

      That reminds me of when my power got shut off and I ran my computer overnight plugged into a car with the engine running. It's amazing how much can actually get from a car, altho probably not the most efficient way to produce electricity.

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  39. useful by jipn4 · · Score: 1

    I would find this useful. At home or at work, I put my phone on the desk anyway, so it can recharge easily then. I'd probably still charge it from the grid some of the time, but for travel or if it runs down, I'm not completely cut off.

  40. Nokia did this years ago by quenda · · Score: 1

    I had a solar-cell battery on my first Nokia - 1610/freestyle. Not sure how long ago, but the SIM was credit-card sized, and the battery was about 5x13cm (2"x5") so plenty of room for a big solar panel on the back :)

  41. Solar panel on separate charger by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    rather than on the cell phone?

  42. Any hand cranked phones? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I prefer hand cranked phones rather than solar ones. At lease I do not have to carry the SUN during trekking nights in forests

  43. satellite phone? by nietsch · · Score: 1

    Besides that they are too pricey for most applications, aren't those iridium satellites now playing bumpercars 300 miles up and creating a nice collision debris cascade? hard to phone to a satellite that is in 2000 pieces. (unless it is that cricket computer from the hitchhikers guide)

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  44. Wireless by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    At last, a _truly_ wireless phone.

  45. Re:You saved 6.5 trees. Total 2014 trees. by StormyWeather · · Score: 1

    I just cut down the tree in my front yard because of your thoughtless post. Man is my wife going to be mad at you.

  46. Cannot work for me by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    This could never work for me. I live in an apartment that I choose to avoid sunlight and my office is no where near a window. If I left my phone in the sun, I know it would not be there when I get back. If I locked it in my car but where it could get sun, not only would I lose the phone, but I would have a broken window. You don't really expect me to sit in the hot Texas summer sun for hours to guard my cell phone to recharge it?