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Major Cache of Fossils Unearthed In Los Angeles

aedmunde sends along news from the LA Times: "A nearly intact mammoth, dubbed Zed, is among the remarkable discoveries near the La Brea Tar Pits. It's the largest known deposit of Pleistocene ice age fossils... in what might seem to be the unlikeliest of places — under an old May Co. parking lot in L.A.'s tony Miracle Mile shopping district. ...huge chunks of soil from the site have been removed intact and now sit in large wooden crates on the back lot... The 23 crates range... from the size of a desk to that of a small delivery truck... There were, in fact, 16 separate deposits on the site, an amount that, by her estimate, would have taken 20 years to excavate conventionally. ... Carefully identifying the edges of each deposit, her team dug trenches around them and underneath, isolating the deposits on dirt pedestals. After wrapping heavy plastic around the deposits, workers built wooden crates similar to tree boxes and lifted them out individually with a heavy crane. The biggest one weighed 123,000 pounds."

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  1. Not politically correct. by iYk6 · · Score: 5, Funny

    They are called, "old people", and yes, there are a lot of them in L.A.

    1. Re:Not politically correct. by chill · · Score: 3, Funny

      Then we're going to have to ask you to turn in your webcam.

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    2. Re:Not politically correct. by Mr.+Conrad · · Score: 5, Funny

      They better have evidence to backup their claims, as they're going against conventional wisdom. Everyone knows that the largest deposit of fossils is in Naples, Florida.

  2. Wow by hiojay · · Score: 3, Funny

    Wow, that's a mammoth of a find.

  3. Who's Zed? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    Zed's dead baby, zed's dead.

  4. Not unlikely at all by heretic108 · · Score: 4, Funny

    The fossils were found under a parking lot.

    Obvious really - Thag and his wife Urga came back from the show to find their trusty mammoth leg-clamped for over-parking. They couldn't afford the unclamping fee, so had to walk home. The rest is history.

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  5. doh! by djupedal · · Score: 5, Funny

    > "in what might seem to be the unlikeliest of places..."

    Hey, Marge! I found fossils in a known tar pit - who would have guessed.....!!

  6. Re:Flintstone by spineboy · · Score: 5, Informative

    They've found COMPLETE frozen wooly mammoths in the Artic tundra in Russia, complete with hair and all
    http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2005/03/0324_050324_mammoth.html
    So while this find is quite nice, it's by no means the best ever.

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  7. Confusing by clarkkent09 · · Score: 5, Funny

    from the size of a desk to that of a small delivery truck

    For those of you who prefer more conventional measurement units, that's between 0.35 and 2.5 volkswagens.

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    1. Re:Confusing by argStyopa · · Score: 5, Funny

      I am so sick of every thread turning into some goddamn crusade for the metric system.

      Look, people, this was in the US, so we're simply going to use the imperial system (.08 to 0.6 Chrysler Imperials).

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    2. Re:Confusing by genner · · Score: 3, Funny

      I am so sick of every thread turning into some goddamn crusade for the metric system.

      Look, people, this was in the US, so we're simply going to use the imperial system (.08 to 0.6 Chrysler Imperials).

      My car gets 40 rods to the hog's head and that's the way I like it.

  8. Multiple redundancy by techno-vampire · · Score: 5, Informative

    Just in case anybody cares, "La Brea" is Spanish for "the Tar," so "The La Brea Tar Pits" translates into "The The Tar Tar Pits."

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    1. Re:Multiple redundancy by clarkkent09 · · Score: 5, Funny

      Mmmm, tartar pits..... picks up a fried fish finger

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  9. old dead things by DavoMan · · Score: 3, Funny

    Have they found the MPAA's business model yet?
    ziiing! ;)

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  10. For those asking for metric... by PhilHibbs · · Score: 5, Funny

    This story is tagged "metricplease", but they didn't have the metric system in the mesozoic era. Sheesh.

    1. Re:For those asking for metric... by Chris+Burke · · Score: 4, Funny

      This story is tagged "metricplease", but they didn't have the metric system in the mesozoic era. Sheesh.

      They almost did!

      In SE Asia they found a fossilized homo erectus, and in its hand it was holding a stone rod which was divided by carved grooves into ten equal sections, which were each then subdivided by smaller grooves into ten sections. Embedded in the specimen's skull was another rod, which was divided into twelve sections, with sixteen subdivisions.

      Thus we have evidence of the oldest known metric vs imperial argument, and its resolution. While anthropologists do not know the identity of the assailant who doomed the entire pleistocene to imperial measurements, it is assumed they were an early form of Yankee.

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  11. The pope? by Moraelin · · Score: 3, Informative

    Especially if it involves the Pope, Texas, and a midget or two.

    I seriously don't see the link between the Pope and US puritan nuts. Or between the pope and the young-earth idiocy for that matter.

    If you look as far as back as St Augustine Of Hippo, he wrote in no uncertain terms that only an idiot would take the Genesis literally. "It is too disgraceful and ruinous, though, and greatly to be avoided, that he [the non-Christian] should hear a Christian speaking so idiotically on these matters, and as if in accord with Christian writings, that he might say that he could scarcely keep from laughing when he saw how totally in error they are." That's pretty much a thorough flaming of that point of view. He got sanctified by the catholic church, btw.

    Plus, whatever bigotry the catholics might have had against science, were gone in the counter-reformation. (They had to try to stop losing ground to the protestants _somehow_.) The Society Of Jesus for example, is pretty much a scientific order sponsored by the Vatican. Those guys operate research labs and universities. And yes, they teach evolution and the big bang.

    Also let's remember that the Vatican, including the current pope, btw, has officially proclaimed Darwinism as correct. So you won't find _them_ arguing that dinosaur fossils were placed there to test your faith.

    Now I'm not saying the catholics are without fault. But ffs, blame them for their real faults, not for bullshit strawmen. Lumping them together with the young-earthers just shows massive ignorance. Blaming it on the pope is like blaming the fall of Byzantium on the emperor of China. That freaking stupid.

    It seems to me like some people aren't in it even for the science-vs-religion parts, but just because they're cretin trolls seeking to annoy someone, anyone for attention.

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    1. Re:The pope? by R2.0 · · Score: 3, Interesting

      It's appropriate you mention the Reformation and Counter Reformation. One of Martin Luther's big peeves was the fact that the Church didn't want average people to read the bible, because it created too much dependence of the local priests, and was inevitably abused. The Church's stated reason was that the bible had to be interpreted by experts so that the laity didn't get confused by the Bible's complexity.

      Fast forward a few hundred years - Luther's spiritual descendants (some of them anyway) are doing EXACTLY what the Church said they would do.

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    2. Re:The pope? by Asic+Eng · · Score: 5, Insightful

      The "loony left" in this case includes noted left wingers like John McCain and Giuliani , chairmen of oil companies, just about every government of the first world, the vast majority of published climate scientists ...

  12. Not fossils - bones! by benwiggy · · Score: 5, Informative

    I was shown around the crates late last year. They are not fossils - they are bones that have been preserved by the tar. They have not undergone transformation in sedimentary rock.
    I also gave the tar a good poking with a stick. It's easy to see how large four-legged animals would get stuck in it.
    The museum also has a huge collection of sabre-tooth tigers - who thought all the stuck prey would be an easy catch....

  13. Re:Flintstone by Keeper+Of+Keys · · Score: 3, Funny

    I've only ever been able to manage a partial mammoth.

    Sorry, I'll get my skins.

  14. Hrm, this reads like a "new" find by BLKMGK · · Score: 3, Informative

    but the article says they took over 3 months to unearth them TWO YEARS ago. Kind of took a little excitement out of it to get nearly through the whole article to find out this all took place years ago. Would have been nice to have more pictures of the process and maybe an explanation as to how they found the edges of the deposits - ground penetrating radar maybe?

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    1. Re:Hrm, this reads like a "new" find by ChrisA90278 · · Score: 3, Informative

      as to how they found the edges of the deposits - ground penetrating radar maybe?

      Much of the area around there is just plain out dirt. The tar is in large pockets. They likely dug out the dirt. The tarpits are now surouned by a nice grass covered park. The tar is only in places where crude oil bubbles up through small cracks

      The entire area at one time was an oil feild. It was such an obvious place to drill because the oil was visible at the surface. So it was drilled and pumped out in the eraly 20th century, mostly. There are a few operating wells around still.

  15. Re:123,000 pounds in modern money? by Teun · · Score: 5, Interesting
    You got a point.

    But the explanation is rather mundane, lets take some hypothetical super tanker accident.

    The oil company will claim less than ten thousand tons of oil might have leaked away.
    The clean up company will report about fifty five thousand barrels of oil to collect and Green Peace will talk about a disaster involving over twelve million litres of crude oil polluting the environment.

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  16. 10000 years from now by MillionthMonkey · · Score: 3, Funny

    Future archaeologists are going to be confused when they find all these dinosaurs buried in Hollywood. I predict that museums by then will have huge wax models of Will Smith riding a triceratops.