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Judge Orders Record Company Execs To Duluth

NewYorkCountryLawyer writes "Lest there be any doubt that District Judge Michael J. Davis, presiding over the Duluth, Minnesota, case, Capitol Records v. Thomas, really does 'get it' about the toxic effect the RIAA, its lead henchman Matthew Oppenheim, and their lawyers have had on the judicial process, all such doubt should be removed by the order he just entered (PDF). It removes control of the decision-making process from the RIAA, Oppenheim, and the lawyers. In the order Judge Davis spells out, in the clearest possible terms so that there can be no misunderstanding, that at the extraordinary 2-day settlement conference he has scheduled for later this month, each record company plaintiff is ordered to produce an 'officer' of the corporation, or a 'managing agent' of the corporation, who has corporate, decision-making, 'power.' The judge makes it clear that no one who has 'settlement authority' with any limits or range attached to it will be acceptable. This means that 'RIAA hitman' Matthew Oppenheim will not be able to control the settlement process as he has been permitted by the Courts to do in the past."

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  1. My heart leaped by subreality · · Score: 5, Funny

    My heart leaped when I first read that as "Judge Orders Record Company Execs To Death". I'm so disappointed.

    1. Re:My heart leaped by NewYorkCountryLawyer · · Score: 5, Insightful

      My heart leaped when I first read that as "Judge Orders Record Company Execs To Death". I'm so disappointed.

      I can assure you that if they do show up for this, they will not find it enjoyable.

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    2. Re:My heart leaped by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

      Obviously you've never been to Duluth in Winter.

    3. Re:My heart leaped by RyuuzakiTetsuya · · Score: 5, Funny

      Trust me, Duluth, MN is worse.

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    4. Re:My heart leaped by subreality · · Score: 3, Interesting

      I appreciate the glimmer of hope. :)

      I dearly hope some of them eventually find it unenjoyable in a criminal PMITA prison kind of way, rather than a merely expensive civil way.

    5. Re:My heart leaped by GuyverDH · · Score: 4, Interesting

      I'd prefer some kind of RICO act finding myself... especially with the illegal investigations by unlicensed investigators. Attempts at entrapment (if their actions had been done by police officers or federal agents), attempts at extortion that border on blackmail... "Pay us 5,000.00 or we'll take you to court for hundreds of thousands - oh and we'll keep your little dog as hostage until you pay up..." kind of things (the dog comment is an exaggeration, although it probably went through some of their minds)...

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    6. Re:My heart leaped by rts008 · · Score: 4, Funny

      Well, 'death', Deluth, Siberian gulag, it's all the same. Don't suffer from Premature Disappointment(tm). Be Happy!

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    7. Re:My heart leaped by dasunt · · Score: 4, Informative

      As a city, I like it.

      Kind of like San Francisco with the severe elevation changes, but if it was transferred to the frozen tundra for half the year.

      The lake is pretty and Engers tower is worth visiting if you're ever in the area.

    8. Re:My heart leaped by rts008 · · Score: 2, Interesting

      I can assure you that if they do show up for this, they will not find it enjoyable.

      Okay, I'm crawling out on a limb here, but what if they are masochists by way of business tradition, and can't help but asking for pain?(yes, this may be far-fetched, but is it a factor?)

      BTW, I hope you are right! Experience will have me 'betting' on your side.

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    9. Re:My heart leaped by kokoloko2k3 · · Score: 3, Insightful

      I can assure *you* that if they _don't_ show up for this, they will not find it enjoyable either.

    10. Re:My heart leaped by CodeBuster · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Would the settlement proceedings effect just this one instance, Capitol Records v. Thomas, or would the results be more wide reaching, perhaps setting a precedent for other cases pending around the country?

    11. Re:My heart leaped by Sfing_ter · · Score: 2, Funny

      No kidding, have you ever been to Duluth...?

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    12. Re:My heart leaped by sumdumass · · Score: 4, Informative

      You realize that what is required of a police officer is completely different in a civil suit right?

      The restrictions on police and government typically only apply to criminal cases. This suit and all of the file sharing P2P RIAA suites so far have been civil suits. They are still bound by rules but not near as stringent as there would be for criminal prosecution.

      Entrapment can occur when the government or one or more of it's officers (private people working on their behalf can be officers too), entice and convince someone to do something illegal that they wouldn't ordinarily do. When citizens do that, it sort of becomes conspiracy instead of entrapment. Instead of just one person breaking the law, someone conspired to get another person to break the law. It doesn't get you out of trouble like if you were able to prove entrapment. There are also defenses like "necessity" that can get you out of trouble. Necessity is more or less the defense that the necessity of the situation left only the options of breaking the laws to escape the circumstances with your life or someone else. Imagine your in prison and the guards are murdering everyone and you escape, You wouldn't get busted for the escape charge. On the other hand, suppose the prison was run in a way that the living conditions was so deplorable that you feared for you life or health, it's a little harder to prove but you could escape punishment there too. Imagine someone jumped in front of you and a relative pointing a gun at both of you. He then tells you he will kill your mom, girlfriend or whoever is with you in 15 minutes if you don't take an unloaded gun into a bank and rob it then give him the money. If you could prove those conditions, you would have acted out of "necessity" and would likely escape punishment.

      Anyways, that's getting way off point. The government is held to a different standard then private people, and criminal cases are held differently then civil cases. Entrapment just won't fit with RIAA and civil lawsuits.

    13. Re:My heart leaped by Faylone · · Score: 3, Funny

      Yeah, but it's in Michigan, not Minnesota. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hell,_Michigan Also, the high today is forecasted to be 27 F, so yeah, frozen over.

    14. Re:My heart leaped by nabsltd · · Score: 3, Insightful

      In this case, they'll probably ignore the judge's requirements to send an "authority" and then say, "Well that sounds good, but I lack the power to agree or disagree," during the settlement meeting.

      Based on the judge's order, I'd say that if that happens, expect to see some record company executives found in contempt of court.

      In particular, since that person wouldn't have the authority, the judge would ask for the name of the person that directed them to come. Once Federal judges get actual names of people, it can get quite nasty if you don't do what they say.

    15. Re:My heart leaped by Tanktalus · · Score: 3, Informative

      Ok, let's look at the rules for entrapment.

      1. "First, the idea to commit the crime had to come from government agents and not the person accused of the crime." A woman, no matter how provocatively dressed, simply standing there does not give the idea to commit solicitation. The accused came up with that prejudice all on his own. Further, simply assuming she's a hooker isn't criminal (no matter what non-hookers think about their sultry outfits). The fact that he stops to talk to her is of his own volition. IF she initiates the conversation, say stopping a passer-by, then that changes everything. That's why vice cops never ever initiate the conversation. They will never be the first to bring up "business" to avoid this part of entrapment.
      2. "Second, the government agents then persuaded or talked the person into committing the crime. Simply giving him the opportunity to commit the crime is not the same as persuading him to commit the crime." If the accused says, "You know what, I changed my mind" and starts to walk or drive away, the cop can't say, "Wait up, I'll knock off 10%." Also, simply standing there so he can walk up and solicit is not entrapment, it's merely providing opportunity. If she wasn't there, and a real hooker was, he'd still commit the offense, thus it's not entrapment.
      3. "And third, the person was not ready and willing to commit the crime before the government agents spoke with him." This gets back to who started the conversation about sex. If the cop starts the conversation, then there's reasonable doubt that the accused was ready and willing to talk about sex for money, but if he initiates the topic, then, again, if the woman wasn't a cop but really was a hooker, then he would still have committed the crime, and thus not entrapment.

      WRT RIAA, of course, it fails to meet the "officer of the law" part. That said, I could see someone attempting it anyway by putting forth a theory that the RIAA became a law unto themselves, and thus were obviously officers of their law. If I were on that jury, I probably could be convinced that the RIAA was acting that way.

    16. Re:My heart leaped by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Interesting

      He hasn't actually ordered anyone BY NAME to appear in court.

      Yet.

      And even more importantly, while he hasn't named anyone specific he has order that someone with specific roles in the record companies to appear. Ultimately, it is the obligation of the top executives to direct their companies to ensure someone from their company who meets these qualifications attends the hearings. If they don't then the judge can summon them to explain their failure to do so in person, if they ignore that summons they will be in contempt of court themselves (and all that entails).

      I am not a lawyer and there might be some nuiances I'm unaware of that would allow them to weasel-out of the intended process. However on the face of the matter, the record execs will be exposing themselves to a world of legal hurt if they simply ignore this court order.

  2. Wow by teknosapien · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Maybe this is the beginning of the end and a new business model will show up. take the lawyers out of the mix and get to the heart of the matter? This will be interesting to watch

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  4. At last, a job for Alberto Gonzales! by Steve1952 · · Score: 3, Funny

    Work's been kind of slow for him lately. Perhaps he can represent one of the record companies.

  5. Re:IANAL.. by Fallen+Kell · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Not necessarily. It simply means that whomever represents the different companies must have full authority to agree to any settlement amount, from nothing to everything.

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  6. If only... by GuyverDH · · Score: 2, Interesting

    I only wish that there had been some way to make it an official judicial order, requiring them to send someone, something that could have major legal / monetary penalties applied if they don't comply, preferably with U.S. Marshall escort, in hand-cuffs if they refused or tried to weasel out - but that would be dreaming big...

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    1. Re:If only... by GuyverDH · · Score: 5, Insightful

      hmmm - after reading the order... it sounds like if they probably do NOT want to skip this in any way shape or form...

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    2. Re:If only... by powerspike · · Score: 4, Funny

      Sorry Your Honor,
      we took a wrong turn on the way to the court house, and ended up in a country that doesn't have an extradition agreement with America. Yours Sincerely, RIAA lawyers.

    3. Re:If only... by NewYorkCountryLawyer · · Score: 4, Informative

      hmmm - after reading the order... it sounds like if they probably do NOT want to skip this in any way shape or form...

      That is correct. They are not going to 'skip' this. They will probably try to avoid it, by getting the best settlement they can get in advance of the hearing... but if they don't settle, they will show, and I can't imagine them disobeying any aspect of the order.

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    4. Re:If only... by NewYorkCountryLawyer · · Score: 5, Informative

      Out of a morbid sense of curiosity, what happens if they don't follow it to the letter?

      It would never happen, but if it were to happen, the judge would throw the case out and grant the defendant her attorneys fees and costs.

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  7. Re:IANAL.. by NewYorkCountryLawyer · · Score: 4, Insightful

    It means they'll probably drop the case to avoid the trouble.

    That would be the smart play, wouldn't it? But then again... they're not known for choosing the smart play, are they?

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  8. IAAL (I am a Lawyer) by wwwillem · · Score: 3, Funny

    No matter if this is good or bad news against the RAFIAA, but when I read ...

    "Lest there be any doubt ... the toxic effect [...] have had on the judicial process ... the decision-making process ... in the clearest possible terms ... can be no misunderstanding ... the extraordinary 2-day settlement ... who has corporate, decision-making, power ... with any limits or range attached to it", etc.

    Oh bloody hell, don't know who did it, but this /. summary must have been written by a lawyer, or at least someone who desperately wants to become one! Not a good sign....

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    1. Re:IAAL (I am a Lawyer) by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

      Oh bloody hell, don't know who did it, but this /. summary must have been written by a lawyer, or at least someone who desperately wants to become one! Not a good sign....

      It certainly was! If you've not heard of NewYorkCountryLawyer then you're definitely new here!

      This one man has done more than anyone else to bring to the public's attention what the MAFIAA have beeen up to for the past few years - check out his blog at http://recordingindustryvspeople.blogspot.com/ for more details.

      Ray - keep up the good work, it looks like we're heading for the endgame now....

    2. Re:IAAL (I am a Lawyer) by NewYorkCountryLawyer · · Score: 4, Interesting

      Ray - keep up the good work, it looks like we're heading for the endgame now....

      Thanks. Yes it looks to me like we are in, or close to, the endgame.

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    3. Re:IAAL (I am a Lawyer) by NewYorkCountryLawyer · · Score: 5, Funny

      this /. summary must have been written by a lawyer, or at least someone who desperately wants to become one!

      Well you're part right.

      It was written by a lawyer.

      But he does not desperately want to be a lawyer; in fact he would prefer to be just about anything else.

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    4. Re:IAAL (I am a Lawyer) by CopaceticOpus · · Score: 4, Funny

      And a slashdot subscriber, to boot. Is that recent, or am I just unobservant?

      And in case you hadn't noticed, Slashdot is now available online!

    5. Re:IAAL (I am a Lawyer) by gknoy · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Sorry to hear that, Ray. You're one of the people demonstrating that lawyers can be awesome. IF you're not happy doing this, I hope you find something you do enjoy.

    6. Re:IAAL (I am a Lawyer) by ignavus · · Score: 5, Funny

      And a slashdot subscriber, to boot. Is that recent, or am I just unobservant?

      And in case you hadn't noticed, Slashdot is now available online!

      Really? Wow. I'll have to stop getting the paper version delivered.

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  9. This is pretty standard by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Other than the fact that the settlement conference will be with Judge Davis instead of a magistrate, this order is completely standard.

    For comparison, here is the relevant portion of a notice of settlement conference in another recent Minnesota federal district court case:

    "Counsel who will actually try the case and each party, armed with full settlement discretion, shall be present. If individuals are parties to this case, they shall be present. If a orporation or other collective entity is a party, a duly authorized officer or managing agent of that party shall be present. This means that each party must attend through a person who has the power to change that party=s settlement posture during the course of the conference. If the party representative has a limit, or âoecapâ on his or her authority, this requirement is not satisfied."

  10. Re:IANAL.. by NewYorkCountryLawyer · · Score: 4, Informative

    My guess is that Oppenheim's barred from negotiations.

    He wouldn't be barred from attending. He just won't be in control, as he is normally permitted to be.

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  11. Re:Makes sense by NewYorkCountryLawyer · · Score: 5, Informative

    How they got away with this before is beyond me.

    It's beyond me too. In Brooklyn several years ago the Magistrate Judge ordered the "principals" of the record companies to attend an in-person settlement conference. When the day came, however, the only person who showed was Matthew Oppenheim, who is not even an employee of any of those companies. If I was the judge I would have thrown their case out, due to their flagrant disobedience of his order. Instead, the judge said "okay" and said he was accepting Oppenheim as a "principal" of all of the companies, and the judge claimed that Oppenheim was the only person in the world who had authority to settle on behalf of all 4 companies. Go figure.

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  12. Unfortunately I doubt it by Weaselmancer · · Score: 5, Interesting

    I don't think a contempt charge is possible since the order doesn't name a specific person to show up. It just asks for somebody in authority, don't care who. IANAL though.

    But from the tone it sounds like "if you don't do this - you forfeit." And I don't think anyone wants that to happen.

    Reason being, this bit:

    If complete agreement is not reached, each attorney shall deliver to chambers on or before March 23, 2009 by noon, a letter which shall include: (1) the parties' respective settlement positions before the meeting; (2) the parties' respective positions following the meeting; (3) a concise analysis of each remaining liability issue, with citation to relevant authority; (4) a reasoned, itemized computation of each element of the alleged damages, with a concise summary of the testimony of each witness who will testify in support of the damage computations; and (5) a reasoned analysis justifying their client's last stated settlement position as well as any additional information believed to be helpful to the process of reaching agreement.

    I don't read a lot of legal documents, but specifically points (3) and (4) sound an awful lot like a judge who's absolutely sick and tired of being jerked around.

    If I read this right the judge is trying to expose exactly what's going on here. I hope that is his intention. It sounds like it to me. If that's the case, the RIAA will drop the case. If they don't, if the judge has his way, that that's it for the RIAA. And it certainly sounds like that's on the judge's agenda.

    Because if the judge exposes this for the scam that it is, there will be the Mother Of All Class Action Countersuits, where the previous victims of this scam unite and get their money back. With damages added, of course.

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    1. Re:Unfortunately I doubt it by Maxo-Texas · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Nah...

      The RIAA companies (SUE-W) will declare bankruptcy and we, the u.s. tax payers will give them several billion dollars..

      Oh waiter... "Bitter, party of one!"

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    2. Re:Unfortunately I doubt it by CoolCalmChris · · Score: 3, Insightful

      I don't read a lot of legal documents, but specifically points (3) and (4) sound an awful lot like a judge who's absolutely sick and tired of being jerked around.

      I agree, but I also think number 5 is a pretty good indication of his state of mind...

      (5) a reasoned analysis justifying their client's last stated settlement position as well as any additional information believed to be helpful to the process of reaching agreement.

    3. Re:Unfortunately I doubt it by CodeBuster · · Score: 4, Interesting

      I'd like to believe that such an outcome is beyond the realm of possibility, but the RIAA has links into the Obama administration through Biden, so such a swindle could indeed occur all kidding aside. One of the side effects of electing the Democrats this time around is granting the entertainment industry, with all of their special interests, enhanced access to the government pocketbook and the federal prosecutor. I wonder if any of the young college students who voted for Obama factored this into their decision. They may soon come to regret Obama's VP choice and his ties to the MAFIAA on a very personal level.

    4. Re:Unfortunately I doubt it by MadKeithV · · Score: 4, Interesting

      I think this judge's order indicates that he is keenly aware that the RIAA is a shell entity for the music industry, so there is some hope that a simple RIAA bankruptcy won't be a "get out of jail free" card for the involved members of the music industry.

    5. Re:Unfortunately I doubt it by sumdumass · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't capitol V Thomas already decided and this is just the settlement portion that was overturned on appeal?

      If that is true, that would mean that all RIAA or the record labels would lose is the settlement. I doubt any class action suits would come about from it.

      I agree that the judge is expecting to expose/determine exactly what's going on. The information gained will probably be ammunition for other cases which might make RIAA's future suits harder to get this far. Perhaps even opening a door to get some other judgments modified too.

    6. Re:Unfortunately I doubt it by Ihmhi · · Score: 4, Funny

      It'd be pretty funny though if they went to bankruptcy court and got some people who didn't really like the 'IAAs.

      "Sony/BMG for one dollar! Going once, going twice, SOLD to man with the fluffy beard and pair of katanas.

    7. Re:Unfortunately I doubt it by cdrudge · · Score: 3, Informative

      Many times it's not just the CEO that technically holds the purse strings. The CFO, Comptroller, or other high ranking management may be able to also authorize a settlement without further authorization. Temporary authorization could also be granted if a person does not regularly have authorization, but was given so just for this case.

    8. Re:Unfortunately I doubt it by LaminatorX · · Score: 4, Funny

      It will now be called GNU/Sony/BMG.

    9. Re:Unfortunately I doubt it by Chabil+Ha' · · Score: 3, Interesting

      Well, here's the difference:

      What the judge is asking for is a person-in-fact. The person-in-law is the corporate entity (RIAA) and is demanding that a person-in-fact show up in court that is authorized to make decisions for the corporation.

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  13. Re:NCYL, the juicy details please! by NewYorkCountryLawyer · · Score: 5, Interesting

    NYCL, would you favor us with your opinion regarding what you think will happen at the settlement meeting?

    If it goes forward, the Judge will lean on each party to soften its position, and get rid of the case.

    For one thing, is it clear who the settlement will favor?

    Most likely the settlement would be for a small payment by defendant. Most likely all parties will be unhappy with it.

    How unusual is an order like this, and why do you think the judge entered it?

    In my experience it is quite unusual, and the judge entered into to try to avoid another taxpayer funded circus serving no appropriate purpose. The courts have much more serious things to attend to than some lady allegedly downloading 24 MP3 files.

    And why is it so important that Oppenheim can't represent the RIAA at the meeting?

    Because he and his lawyer friends have been churning these cases to the detriment of everyone except themselves.

    Presumably he was only following executive orders anyway.

    I think the actual relationship is somewhat more subtle than that. Yes the record company executives authorized this, but both they and Oppenheim and the lawyers Oppenheim hired were all acting to the detriment of the companies themselves. Yes they had authority to do it. But they weren't giving their clients sound advice. And the record companies were being played for the suckers. Highly 'aggressive' clients are easy prey.

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  14. Well, there's still time by xant · · Score: 4, Funny

    > The judge makes it clear that no one who has 'settlement authority' with any limits or range attached to it will be acceptable

    There's still a possibility that the settlement will include beheadings, since the agent will have the authority to grant it.

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  15. Re:IANAL.. by torkus · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Assuming the judge *lets* them drop the case without prejudice. Seems like the judge is more than tired of the nonsense and if the MAFIAA tries a 'oh! my bad! Let's be friends' he'll *find* for the defendant - which would amount to making case law out of his/her defense.

    That would go a LONG way to invalidating their whole extortion scheme - they sue, defense cites this case and then puts in a counterclaim for legal fees and damages.

    The MAFIAA doesn't care if they don't win - they just can't afford to actually LOSE because it would set a precedent.

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  16. Duluth != Minneapolis by sdhughes · · Score: 3, Informative

    Looks to me like the record company execs are ordered to go to the courthouse in downtown Minneapolis, not Duluth.

    1. Re:Duluth != Minneapolis by smchris · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Lucky Californian bastards. Minneapolis should be 10 degrees warmer than Duluth by March 30. Could break 50 here in the afternoon and they won't have the opportunity to savor the wind off Lake Superior.

  17. Re:Right, but.. SFW? by chiguy · · Score: 2, Funny

    Toss a couple of bucks to the defendant instead of winning is not exactly an eternity having your liver eaten while chained to a rock*...

    *Also known as "justice", around these parts.

    You're from Greece?

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  18. Re:Right, but.. SFW? by Jane+Q.+Public · · Score: 3, Insightful

    What's at stake is their own entire intimidation scheme... or a large part of it. They don't dare lose in court because the precedent would blow big holes in the way they go after people. If they think there is an appreciable danger of actually getting a judgment against them (other than a "confidential" settlement), they will probably drop the case like a hot potato. Because that way they will be free to try the same tactics again. But if the judgment went against them, that would set a precedent and likely they would have to either stop or make major changes to the ways they go about the whole thing. Changes that are not in their favor.

    And the judge in this case is making it clear that he is tired of their games, and that he wants the principles involved (not just their hired guns) to come to the table and pony up, or go away. Three cheers for the judge.

    I am not a lawyer, but that is my armchair analysis of the situation.

  19. Duluth? by Ragzouken · · Score: 2, Funny

    What is that, a Black Metal band?

  20. Re:Makes sense by Atario · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Go figure.

    Yeah, it makes me wonder what kind of figure was involved.

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  21. I know this judge by cenc · · Score: 5, Informative

    I know this judge. My father was an attorney that tried many cases in front of him including his own divorce.

    My father described him for the most part as a by the book sort of judge, as far as the book would go, but tended to side with the underdog when there was no specific rule dictating how he needed to rule.

    My father also described his rulings as a bit irrational. Which in this case I would take to not be a good thing for record executive or their lawyers trying to game the system to punish the little guy basically using loop holes in the law.

  22. Correction: It Was A Standard Form by NewYorkCountryLawyer · · Score: 4, Informative

    To those readers here at Slashdot and on my blog who brought this error to my attention, I express my profound gratitude.

    And to all of you who may have been misled by my post, I apologize profusely.

    As it turns out....the order is a standard form commonly used in Minnesota's federal court for settlement conferences. Although I have almost 35 years of litigation experience, none of that experience has been in Minnesota.

    Again, sorry, folks, for my mistake.

    Meanwhile, as to the substance of the order, it's still a great order; I wish the courts in which I do practice had been using it. It still requires each of the record companies to produce one of its 'officers' or 'managing agents' with decisionmaking 'power'. That means Mr. Oppenheim and the lawyers are not in control.

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  23. Re:The hearing is in Minneapolis, not Duluth by NewYorkCountryLawyer · · Score: 3, Informative

    I take the blame. Although the trial will be in Duluth, you are correct that the notice specifies Minneapolis as the location of the settlement conference.

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  24. Now I'm not so sure if it's standard or not by NewYorkCountryLawyer · · Score: 4, Informative

    3/3/10 12:50 PM UPDATE The question of whether it's a 'standard form' is not necessarily so clear. I have just heard from a few veteran Minnesota federal litigators who say they have never seen such an order in their experience.

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  25. I don't practice in Minn by TexasLawyer · · Score: 2, Insightful

    I don't practice in Minn, but I have never seen an order like that from a Texas federal court. Some judges are very active in running settlement conferences, and it would not surprise me for them to want to be very certain that there was no waffling about people not having authority at the settlement conference. But, this order feels like one hacked off judge who is intent on seeing someone very, very senior with each party live and in front of him. In my experience, federal judges are quite capable of delivering world class butt-chewings when they decide you need it. I am happy to say I have only seen, and not been on the receiving end. The order makes perfect sense, if the judge is convinced that the Plaintiffs are jerking around individuals, by effectively threatening them with the sheer cost of the system. Sure looks like the the judge is making sure the Plaintiffs get a taste of their own medicine, by having to send someone with serious authority - in person - to attend the settlement conference.