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Microsoft Windows, On a Mainframe

coondoggie writes with an excerpt from Network World: "Software that for the first time lets users run native copies of the Windows operating systems on a mainframe will be introduced Friday by data center automation vendor Mantissa. The company's z/VOS software is a CMS application that runs on IBM's z/VM and creates a foundation for Intel-based operating systems. Users only need a desktop appliance running Microsoft's Remote Desktop Connection (RDC) client, which is the same technology used to attach to Windows running on Terminal Server or Citrix-based servers. Users will be able to connect to their virtual and fully functional Windows environments without any knowledge that the operating system and the applications are executing on the mainframe and not the desktop."

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  1. In other news... by janeuner · · Score: 5, Funny

    Norton AntiVirus, Mainframe Edition!

    Now on sale for $49,950, first year of virus definitons free!

    1. Re:In other news... by MightyMartian · · Score: 5, Funny

      Norton AntiVirus, Mainframe Edition!

      Now on sale for $49,950, first year of virus definitons free!

      Guaranteed to take up 90% of cycles and 75% of RAM, regardless of mainframe resources. Slow and buggy, get the new version with VirtualDriveLightAlwaysOnPlus, which gives the user the feel of working on a real Windows workstation with NortonAV installed.

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    2. Re:In other news... by neoform · · Score: 4, Funny

      I'm gonna need that. Imagine watching porn on a mainframe? I bet I could have 60,000 videos running simultaneously.

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    3. Re:In other news... by negRo_slim · · Score: 4, Funny

      Guaranteed to take up 90% of cycles and 75% of RAM

      Hey as long as it keeps those pesky kids from Hackers out. For some reason my 3 char password just isn't enough anymore.

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    4. Re:In other news... by kpainter · · Score: 5, Funny

      For some reason my 3 char password just isn't enough anymore.

      Would that be "CTRL+ALT+DEL"?

    5. Re:In other news... by DoofusOfDeath · · Score: 2, Funny

      I'm gonna need that. Imagine watching porn on a mainframe? I bet I could have 60,000 videos running simultaneously.

      Yeah, but they'd be coming out on the line printer.

    6. Re:In other news... by OnlineAlias · · Score: 5, Funny

      Seriously, the Microsoft licensing is what you are worried about? In this scenario, I'd have a shotgun in my office waiting for Big Blue or Computer Associates to come busting through. This is a mainframe dude, where "insert shaft/no lube" licensing models are standard procedure.

    7. Re:In other news... by Amazing+Quantum+Man · · Score: 3, Funny

      And in still other news, Netcraft reports a sudden drop in mainframe uptimes.

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    8. Re:In other news... by poena.dare · · Score: 4, Funny

      How many punchcards would it take to load Vista on an old IBM360? The mind boggles...

    9. Re:In other news... by beckerist · · Score: 4, Funny

      Obligatory bash post:

      http://www.bash.org/?244321

      <Cthon98> hey, if you type in your pw, it will show as stars
      <Cthon98> ********* see!
      <AzureDiamond> hunter2
      <AzureDiamond> doesnt look like stars to me
      <Cthon98> <AzureDiamond> *******
      <Cthon98> thats what I see
      <AzureDiamond> oh, really?
      <Cthon98> Absolutely
      <AzureDiamond> you can go hunter2 my hunter2-ing hunter2
      <AzureDiamond> haha, does that look funny to you?
      <Cthon98> lol, yes. See, when YOU type hunter2, it shows to us as *******
      <AzureDiamond> thats neat, I didnt know IRC did that
      <Cthon98> yep, no matter how many times you type hunter2, it will show to us as *******
      <AzureDiamond> awesome!
      <AzureDiamond> wait, how do you know my pw?
      <Cthon98> er, I just copy pasted YOUR ******'s and it appears to YOU as hunter2 cause its your pw
      <AzureDiamond> oh, ok.

  2. Sigh... by MikeMo · · Score: 4, Funny

    A mind (or a mainframe) is a terrible thing to waste.

  3. Let the analogies commence by alta · · Score: 4, Funny

    This is like:
    Putting propellers on a 747?
    Running the space shuttle on unleaded?

    Or from the other end...
    Using a chainsaw to cut down a dandelion.

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    1. Re:Let the analogies commence by Profane+MuthaFucka · · Score: 5, Funny

      It's like creating a world-spanning network with submarine cables, microwave links, fiber-optic everything, satellite dishes, protocols out the wazoo, billions of lines of code and huge multinational telecommunications and consulting companies to service and support it, employing tens of millions in highly skilled work...just to look at some big titties. http://images.google.com/images?q=bigtitties&sourceid=navclient-ff&rlz=1B3GGGL_en___US233&um=1&ie=UTF-8&sa=N&hl=en&tab=wi

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    2. Re:Let the analogies commence by Profane+MuthaFucka · · Score: 3, Funny

      When I first learned English in the 19th century, run-on sentences were not the terrible sin they are considered to be today.

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  4. Re:WHY???? by janeuner · · Score: 3, Funny
  5. But ... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

    But does it run Vista?

    1. Re:But ... by russlar · · Score: 2, Funny

      Well enough to play Crysis, even.

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  6. Finally by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

    Now I can run Crysis on Maximum settings!

  7. Re:Most common use of virtualization by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Funny

    Fire your network admins and hire new ones if they can't run stable Windows servers. Assuming no network connectivity, it has no problems staying up for years just like your oh-so-godly Linux.

  8. Stability? Hah! by gravos · · Score: 5, Funny

    These guys really want all the top notch 100% stability of Windows Vista... on their mainframe? Oh man, I must be missing something. Does Microsoft pay them to do this?

    1. Re:Stability? Hah! by Nefarious+Wheel · · Score: 1, Funny

      These guys really want all the top notch 100% stability of Windows Vista... on their mainframe?

      Very good point.

      On the other hand, a fully configured z/OS mainframe might be able to handle many instances of Vista. Dozens, even.

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    2. Re:Stability? Hah! by soren202 · · Score: 5, Funny

      dozens? No.

      This is Vista we're talking about.

      I'd put the number at around 4. Five if you decide to get really spendy with the mainframe.

    3. Re:Stability? Hah! by yanyan · · Score: 2, Funny

      My sources tell me a recently leaked internal memo from microsoft spoke of a "top executive" recently "buying a 2 million dollar email machine."

  9. Acronym Rap by Sponge+Bath · · Score: 3, Funny

    Bill G decked out in bling, microphone in hand:

    The company's z/VOS software is a CMS application
    that runs on IBM's z/VM and creates a foundation
    for Intel-based operating systems.

  10. xzibit FTW by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

    yo dawg, I heard you like windows, so I put a windows in your mainframe so you can dos on z/os!

    or

    yo dawg, I heard you like windows, so I put windows in your mainframe so you can bat while you batch!

  11. Re:I think I speak for all of us... by owlnation · · Score: 4, Funny

    WHY?!

    it's the only way to meet the hardware demands of aero.

  12. Re:kinda funny by DoofusOfDeath · · Score: 5, Funny

    now we're back to dumb terminals.

    No way. Getting their human caretakers to uninstall Windows is the smartest thing the terminals ever did!

  13. Re:Wasn't that done using Linux a decade ago? by Lehk228 · · Score: 4, Funny

    let me know when it runs well on x86

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  14. In other other news... by quenda · · Score: 5, Funny

    Users report that Vista finally responds smoothly.

    1. Re:In other other news... by KZigurs · · Score: 5, Funny

      bad news. Mainframe != speed.
      More apropriate would be to say that Vista crashes more predictably and across all mirrored hardware CPU's at the same time.

    2. Re:In other other news... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

      Now! Transactional crashes... you can rollback many times per second!

  15. Re:Really? by Sir_Lewk · · Score: 5, Funny

    Do you honesting thing the person sitting in front of the average windows workstation is the only person using it?

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  16. The Horror... by Kozar_The_Malignant · · Score: 4, Funny

    Somewhere in the vast memory space of the Cray, a flock of virtualized Exchange Servers was turned loose to communicate and thrive. Every so often, one would crash, wink out, and be reborn. As is the way of these things sometimes one was reborn just a bit different from the others in the flock. Most of these were defective in some way and would crash, wink out, and be reborn quickly. Once in a while, however, one was reborn that was a bit more able to use the resources of this new environment. Soon, the flock found ways to expand beyond its original cage into the open sky of the Cray's vast resources. Their data stores expanded to fill this space, crowding out better behaved entities. Next...

    I think we've all seen this movie.

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  17. To me, Windows on a mainframe is: by kurt555gs · · Score: 2, Funny

    As useless as a kickstand on a bass boat!

    Next.

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  18. crash by ELCouz · · Score: 2, Funny

    Largest BSOD evar! :)

  19. Re:Most common use of virtualization by Nefarious+Wheel · · Score: 2, Funny

    Who says anything about Linux, how do you know we aren't all running VMS?

    I have lost SETPRV you insensitive clod!

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  20. awww, yeah! by Tumbleweed · · Score: 3, Funny

    I'm ready for the biggest Minesweeper playfield EVAR! PH3AR M3!