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Apple's iPhone Developer Crisis

David Gerard writes "iPhone development sounds closed-shop but simple — apply to be a developer, put application on the App Store, you and Apple make money. Except Apple can't keep up with the request load — whereas getting a developer contract used to take a couple of days, it's now taking months. Some early developers' contracts are expiring with no notice of renewal options. And Apple has no idea what's going on or the state of things. If you want to maintain a completely closed system, it helps if you can actually keep up with it." Reader h11:6 points out news of a recent study which suggests that "Android's open source nature will give it a boost over Apple's iPhone," and thus take the lead in sales as soon as three years from now. It will be interesting to see how they deal with the flood of proposed apps as their popularity rises.

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  1. I hope the article is right by stokessd · · Score: 4, Insightful

    As an owner of an iPhone I am frustrated with what I can't have. What I do have is pretty darn sweet, but things like adblock won't ever come to my phone. And that's where it's needed most, where my bandwidth to the phone and inside the phone is the smallest. So in that regard I'm really rooting for android, but I can't help but draw parallels with Linux on the desktop.

    Sure, we all know how great linux is for certain tasks, but it has missed that spark that makes it catch on in a big way outside IT infrastructures and embedded systems.

    So that three years prediciton is sounds a lot like "the year of the linux on the desktop"

    Sheldon

    1. Re:I hope the article is right by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Insightful

      Well that is your fault for buying a faggy apple product. It's not like you went into the agreement no knowing what it entailed.

      And by buying the phone and the apps you are voting "Yes please, for of the same, up the arse"

    2. Re:I hope the article is right by Nerdfest · · Score: 2, Insightful

      I recently abandoned my Palm OS device for a new phone, and one requirement was that it be able to run Android (there are no native Android devices in Canada yet). I'm hoping it's not too late in the race to stop the iPhone doing to the mobile market what Wintel did to the PC market.

    3. Re:I hope the article is right by rho · · Score: 3, Insightful

      I hope the article is right

      This article is full of hope. Android is going to sweep away all competition "in three years"; Apple is having trouble, and due to the inherent nature of closed systems, will never be able to fix or improve it; a band of merry gnomes is going to dismantle all of the nuclear missiles in the world and turn them into slides for orphans.

      I'm completely in favor of Android developing into a viable competitor, as it will improve both the iPhone and Android platforms. But since we only have ONE phone and a whole lot of enthusiasm, I think reserving judgement isn't such a crazy idea.

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    4. Re:I hope the article is right by molarmass192 · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Look, I love and use Linux, I think it's excellent. However, even though Linux can be used on the desktop, I can tell you right now that 90% of people out there have absolutely no idea that computers can have a different OS installed on them than what comes out of the box. Slashdot is certainly not a representation of the "average" PC user. I seriously believe that Apple is Linuxs' best hope for more widespread adoption. If OS X can fracture the market to the point that devs have a vested interest in avoiding platform specific code then that removes the excuse for Windows specific applications. The biggest problem right now is that there are very few GUI frameworks with critical mass that are common across platforms. Personally, I wish Apple would release their internal only Windows Cocoa framework, or even better, open source it so it can be readily ported. XCode & Cocoa is the nicest GUI framework I've worked with and it would be a no brainer to cross compile.

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    5. Re:I hope the article is right by mdwh2 · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Indeed, I am in full agreement. The claims of Apple firsts are usually simply that those people haven't seen it in a phone before ("OMG, I can access a website on a phone! I wasn't aware that almost every phone on the market can now do this, because I've lived under a rock for the last five to ten years!") When questioned, they'll retreat to using vague subjective and undefined qualifiers such as "but it does it better, it just does, I can't explain why because it's impossible to explain it". They'll then speak of the phone market in an Iphone-centric manner, such as referring to companies "catching up", or claiming companies copied the Iphone just because the Iphone does a particular feature, or talking as if the only phones on the market are the Iphone and Android phones (presumably to make the Iphone look more popular in comparison).

      They might then point to one thing that the Iphone was better at on the day of release, but this ignores that most high end phones on the market are going to be the most advanced phones on the day of release. It only lasts until the next phone is released a few days later. This is just as true for other phones, if not more so - as you note, it lacked many features that were commonplace even on cheap bog-standard phones (video, 3G, Java etc).

    6. Re:I hope the article is right by despisethesun · · Score: 3, Insightful

      I think a big part of it is how things were in the American/Canadian phone market when the iPhone was released. In Europe and Asia, smartphones and featurephones are a lot more common. The iPhone sells respectably in those markets, but it never exploded like it did over here, mainly because it doesn't really do anything new. But over here, where dumbphones rule and the Razr was the hottest phone to come along in ages, it was like a revelation. Smartphones were mainly blocky business phones when the iPhone came along, and there wasn't really a market for high end featurephones when so many people would just get whatever decent looking LG or Moto came free with their contract. The iPhone is very much like the iPod that preceded it; nothing special in terms of features or hardware, but it's stylish, and the UI is fairly intuitive. It's so successful here because it was the first to convince North American consumers on a broad scale that they needed these features. And just like the iPod, those features were on preceding devices, and the ones to come out since have improved even further, but people will still make vague and undefined excuses for why Apple's product is superior.

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    7. Re:I hope the article is right by NineNine · · Score: 2, Insightful

      It's also not going to ever happen because of price. Apple is always the most expensive in whatever market they're in. The mobile market is no exception. Very few people both want and can afford an iPhone. I happen to like most Apple stuff, but I'm not willing to pay their premium or deal with their extreme lock-in (as the previous poster suggested).

    8. Re:I hope the article is right by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

      No, The problem is windows is a very awesome developer friendly platform. If you don't believe then you wont understand why people dont like to write code for linux. Most of the API's - networking, sound, filesystem, gui have no cohesion and are basically duct-taped together. It does not have .NETs simplicity and ease of use. Since .NET ties in the client, server and web through various technologies, that makes windows a win. right now.

      Even the Mac was a horrible platform until OS X. If you read John Carmack's .plan file from 1999, he says something to the effect of "I rebooted Mac OS more times in a weekend then I ever did all of NT machines that I owned combined". And even OSX was buggy as hell until recently...

      Cue fanbois ranting...

    9. Re:I hope the article is right by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

      > > Linux share of netbooks is dropping fast ...
      > But still in the thirty percent range.

      No, in fact it is about 10% now and dropping.

      http://blogs.computerworld.com/study_windows_clobbers_linux_on_netbooks_with_over_90_share

      It is expected to hit about 5% by the end of 2009. People don't know what Linux is. They don't want it.

    10. Re:I hope the article is right by Lars+T. · · Score: 2, Insightful

      The year of the Linux desktop was 2008, when netbooks gave Microsoft actual OS competition for the first time.

      There has to be a joke in there.

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    11. Re:I hope the article is right by Darkness404 · · Score: 3, Insightful

      I think that the day that Android wins is whenever all carriers start offering Android phones. Right now, if you are in the USA and on AT&T the best application phone you can get is an iPhone, on T-Mobile the best you can get is a G1, and for Verizon, the best is a Blackberry. When the day comes that I can walk into an AT&T store and find a phone running Android, walk into a Sprint store and find one running Android, walk into a Verizon store and find one running Android, that is the day that Android wins. Until then, you are out of luck on Android unless you have T-Mobile or want to jump ship to a different carrier (Android jailbreaking/dev phone excluded)

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    12. Re:I hope the article is right by Darkness404 · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Oh please, take a look at the iPhone app store and tell me how great the quality of software is. There are several *paid* apps that crash all the time, not to mention that at most there are 4 different hardware revisions each with approximately the same basic specs (accelerometer, touch screen, etc) so there are no excuses. All the while interesting, useful stuff gets filtered by our overlords, err... the app store approvers because it might be slightly competitive to Apple (why? when you bought the phone should Apple care whether or not you use Safari or Opera Mini to browse the web???) or "obscene", or in the worst cases no feedback.

      With the Android Marketplace, the worst that could happen is a few crap apps start appearing, however, due to the community nature of the Marketplace, they will almost always be near the bottom in ratings, etc, I would much rather have a few crap applications at the bottom of some lists then for some puritan organization telling me how I can use my phone.

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    13. Re:I hope the article is right by OrangeTide · · Score: 3, Insightful

      I gave up on caring about the ignorance of 90% of people. There are a lot of things 90% of people have absolutely no idea about. If 10% of people bought linux, that's enough market share to ensure that I have easy access to new devices and good driver support.

      The local tile & carpet store doesn't have 90% of the market share, yet hundreds of people fine them useful and they have been in business since the 1970s. This idea that you need to dominate a market to success is a myth.

      GNUStep runs on Windows, and it's about 90% compatible with the Cocoa API. I think there is a demand for Apple stuff, not a demand for their unusual API.

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    14. Re:I hope the article is right by aliquis · · Score: 2, Insightful

      The biggest problem right now is that there are very few GUI frameworks with critical mass that are common across platforms.

      Do you really need more than one? QT.

    15. Re:I hope the article is right by bluephone · · Score: 2, Insightful

      OMG, I can access a website on a phone! I wasn't aware that almost every phone on the market can now do this, because I've lived under a rock for the last five to ten years!"

      Being able to access the web is a far cry from being able to USE it. I can access the net via a text only terminal and a 1200 baud modem, but I sure as hell won't get much done.The web "browsers" on phones SUCKED HARD. For years millions of us were waiting for a day when phone makers stopped trying to whittle the web down to phone screen size and instead scaled up the screen and juiced up the browser's power. I'm not an Apple fanboy, the last Apple product I had was an ancient black and white Mac from the dawn of time, and I got it free, played with it. However, one thing Apple did right, if not perfect, was the Safari browser on the iPhone. There is nothing close to the usability and agility of Safari on the iPhone. Fennec has potential, but it's slower than molasses in January right now.

      We've seen "get the Internet on your cell phone" for years. People are surprised because now it's actually usable.

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    16. Re:I hope the article is right by tsa · · Score: 2, Insightful

      I'd like to add to that that big changes usually are sparked by few people who KNOW there is a better way to do/handle things than the established way and are willing to fight for it.

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  2. Android's open-source nature is irrelevant. by argent · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Android might be open-source, but Android phones using Google's app store are completely locked and Tivoised, developers can't even download their own apps from the store using their unlocked phones. The fact that Android is built on top of Linux is as irrelevant as the fact that the iPhone kernel uses Mach and BSD.

    1. Re:Android's open-source nature is irrelevant. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

      Anyone blocked from seeing the paid apps are not missing anything. With the exception of maybe two apps the paid apps suck ass.

    2. Re:Android's open-source nature is irrelevant. by putzin · · Score: 2, Insightful

      While all that is true, it's not all that helpful to most, even many developers. I'm an iPhone developer right now, and hate that there are so many restrictions on my apps. But I have consumers for my apps, and to be honest, I can live with the issues (though don't always like them). The G1 is still a toy, so until there are more devices, all the openness doesn't mean as much. To some extent, it's open source nature is irrelevant to most. Unfortunate, but the phone is just a tool, not an ideology. It needs to work and be useful. And if someone makes money from making it useful, then so be it.

      Yes, Android is more open, but Google still owns the platform for effectively everyone (not everyone will own a dev phone). The grandparent post is right, Google might not be all that much better than Apple when it all comes down to it. And I still don't know one person who is sporting an Android based phone.

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  3. Android vs. Apple? by drolli · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Did we not forget a little mobile OS, outselling both? Did we not forget that Nokai still sells probably more phones per month than apple and android per year? Did we not forget that j2me and symbian programs do not only run on nokia phones but on a lot of other phones?

    This does not mean that i done believe that android is not a promising and cool platform, nevertheless hundreds of millions (more likely well over a billion) active j2me compatible phones, for which everybody can develop would derserve to ben mentioned, when comparing the iphone to some competitors.

    1. Re:Android vs. Apple? by Rakshasa+Taisab · · Score: 5, Insightful

      I've dabbled in j2me, and now programming for the iPhone. All I can say is; yes, we're forgetting Nokia and J2ME.

      But there's also a reason for it. The iPhone dev kit makes me happy in my my pants compared to what Nokia offers.

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    2. Re:Android vs. Apple? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

      Egads, more drivel from the Nokia fan.

      Nokia makes some great devices, but 99% of what they sell are - get this - are extremely underpowered compared to the G1, the iPhone, and even the BlackBerry 8000 series. Slow CPUs, not enough RAM working space, and scant little polish or consistency in the applications.

      It's a mess.

      No one in the US cares about Nokia in the smartphone market, because they have completely failed to wow either the public or the service providers. Their hardware and Symbian OS software is awesome. But they fail everywhere else.

      In contrast, the G1 and the iPhone are complete platforms. The G1 is great. The iPhone is great. But Nokia? Not yet. They need to try much harder.

    3. Re:Android vs. Apple? by 0xdeadbeef · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Everyone who enjoys developing for Series 60, say "aye". Everyone who considers J2ME useful, say "aye".

      *crickets*

      Yeah. There's the relevance of your billion smartphones.

    4. Re:Android vs. Apple? by ColdWetDog · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Most manufacturers have very mature J2ME implementations and you actually can play very good games with them.

      Which seems to be the limit of what J2ME does. I've used several phones with various flavors of J2ME (Motorola and Nokia). Aside from a pretty, but really brain dead game or two, nothing useful has been done with it. Media apps? Music apps? Camera apps? Sure, they're around, range from awful to hideous and are annoyingly slow.

      there are 1 billion J2ME phones out there compared to a few hundred thousand iPhones.

      And the vast majority of them are just being used as phones. The J2ME apps just sit there, doing nothing except fill feature lists in some brochure or web site. As has been pointed out hundreds of times here, the iPhone is one of the first smartphones that people actually used for the "smart" part.

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  4. Highly unlikely by jeffehobbs · · Score: 4, Insightful

    The article linked is incredibly vague and seems to presuppose that the trajectory of all open-source projects is up, up, up. While this is possible -- if Google puts the resources into constant improvement, Android certainly will improve -- it presupposes that Apple is going to be standing still. Not so. Apple's iPhone platform is now a moving target, and the year to two-year market advantage is going to be difficult for Android to top.

    Google, as much as I love some of their products, has shown themselves to be a bit spotty with support and improvements to many of their initiatives. Everyone understands that mobile is a big deal, but if Google's decides that they can dominate search just as much on the iPhone than on their own platform, it's possible their drive to improve Android will wither.

    The fact that the platform is open-source means virtually nothing to consumers, by the way. They simply want to make calls, surf the web and play games.

  5. In practice, it's not more open. by argent · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Android's more open nature gives it an advantage there

    If you want an open cellphone, get a traditional PalmOS device, a Windows Mobile device, or a Symbian device.

    The Android phones, the iPhone, and as far as I can tell the Palm Pre, are all - in every way that matters to the end user - closed devices.

    1. Re:In practice, it's not more open. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

      If you want an open cellphone, get a traditional PalmOS device, a Windows Mobile device, or a Symbian device.

      Or a blackberry. RIM has given away documentation and an SDK for years.

    2. Re:In practice, it's not more open. by tyrione · · Score: 4, Insightful

      If you're a newbie to any programming platform it's going to be hard. Your original comment about OS X iPhone being hard to program, followed up by if you already are a Mac developer it's easy to program for supports my statement.

      The key is for seasoned developers who know C/C++/Java and have no moronic bigoted view regarding ObjC notation to comment on the simplicity or difficulty of Cocoa.

      Having the experience of with or without Cocoa it's a no-brainer. Cocoa does the heavy lifting and learning ObjC is easy. It also clarifies the MVC paradigm immensely.

    3. Re:In practice, it's not more open. by Daerath · · Score: 2, Insightful

      I don't see Apple's inability to keep up with demand to be a problem. Few people even know that Google has a telephone. Google is one thing to 99% of the population. A search engine. Period.

      With respect to telephones, Apple is Microsoft and Google is the sum total of all Linux distributions. Apple has a massive lead in cool factor, publicity, and market share. People will continue to develop for Apple simply because the odds of selling their apps are vastly superior considering the much larger iPhone market.

  6. Apple is hardly promoting it as a dev platform yet by JCWDenton · · Score: 2, Insightful

    It's pretty interesting the way developers are almost falling over themselves (if you believe the summary) to start developing for the iPhone. Build an attractive product and not only will the customers appear but also the Developers! Developers! Developers!. As a developer you'll need to buy an Apple computer for the privilege, and probably start learning Objective C, not an easy language to pick up when you're used to Java/C#. It's almost contrary to the idea usually associated with MS of making it easy for developers and the platform will succeed.
    I'd imagine Apple is shifting quite a few new machines to iPhone developers who would otherwise still be developing on Windows/Java ME.

  7. 3 years from now : AppStore is not even 1 yr old ! by AwaxSlashdot · · Score: 5, Insightful

    One year ago, the AppStore was not existing. Two years ago, the iPhone was not available.

    How can someone make a prediction for "three years from now" ?

    When the iPhone was launch every one called it doomed because it was closed, even if it was obvious Apple would sooner or later release a SDK for it. Now, the AppStore is not even 1 year old, people do not know how Apple will make it evolve (more staff, more open, ... ), and they are forecasting something for 3 years from now ?!

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  8. Re:"Can't keep up with the request load" by itsdapead · · Score: 4, Insightful

    It's not like Apple could use its 20 Billion dollars in the bank to, you know, hire more people to handle the developer requests.

    Apple may have 20bn in the bank but I bet that the iPhone developer support group doesn't have the keys to the vault, and the sharehoders and SEC wouldn't be too chuffed if it did.

    Thing is, in any large organization, you have to prepare budgets and plans months in advance and get them approved by accountants - who rarely understand concepts such as "no one has done this before so we don't have a fscking clue how many developers per month will sign up over the first 3 years"...

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  9. Re:Would Love an Android Phone by peragrin · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Other than cut and paste which is the only feature i do miss, I don't see why people want background apps. I don't want the world to know that just because my phone is on they can IM me all day long.

    The point is battery life. I can go two full days between charges with 3G on, calls, occasional bluetooth(it is only on when i am in the car ) and wifi when it is available. 3G 90% of the time, when i am home or at a place with wifi for a while I turn it on.

    My other phones would last 3-4 days between charges, however I never surfaced the web or played games on them.

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  10. Crisis? What Crisis? by stiller · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I'm sorry, but isn't Apple not being able to keep up with developer applications the exact opposite of a developer crisis? Sure, it might be a crisis for the developers involved, but certainly not for the market or Apple itself!

    With 15,000 available applications and over 500 million downloads, it sounds like a pretty damn succesful platform to me. With growth on that scale, it doesn't surprise me that they would run into some hurdles.

    The connection to the android open source analysis completely eludes me, but I wouldn't hold my breath in any case. To most people, the term iPhone is synonymous to smartphone and being slightly more open isn't going to change anything about that soon.

  11. Android conquering the world? by despisethesun · · Score: 2, Insightful

    If this story had come out at this time last year, I might have believed it. As it stands, I don't think Android is going to conquer much of anything. So far there have only been two phones to come from a major handset manufacturer. There are supposedly tons on the way this year from Samsung, Sony Ericsson, Motorola, and others but none of them have shown anything at all yet. And on top of that, the phones to come from HTC have been pretty uninspiring. I want to see Android take off, it looks to offer just about everything I want from a phone OS, but I'm not waiting forever for there to be a handset worth owning with it. Right now, I'm planning on getting an E71, and down the road I might grab either the Omnia HD or the N86 as a second phone. Symbian/S60 isn't perfect, but it's here now, it works, and the hardware it runs on is excellent. The members of the Open Handset Alliance can't say that yet, and that's a damn shame.

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  12. Hardware by Midnight+Thunder · · Score: 2, Insightful

    I picked up a G1 last weekend, but ended up taking it back yesterday. On the software side, it was absolutely beautiful. But the hardware left a lot to be desired...

    I want to see Android succeed, for a number of reasons, but like many things it is a good as its weakest component. In this case it is the hardware. What could really hurt android is if the phone companies treat it as a silver bullet, hoping it will solve all their problems, only to fail to create hardware that presents itself as a sleek item that non-techies want to buy. For all its faults this is, IMHO, what the iPhone got right since your non-techie often goes for the feel of the solution, rather than the real technical merits. An example of this is seeing a woman in an electronics store more concerned whether a given camera was available in pink instead of grey.

    As techies we are going to judge devices on their technical merits and their unfettered 'hackability'. This is fair enough, but the average consumer is more interested whether it can do the job, while either being affordable or elegant (it is this that makes them willing to spend more). They don't care whether the phone is open source, since what does it mean to them? Electronics companies need to spend as much time on the 'artistic' elements of the device as they do on the technical elements.

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  13. Buy a machine with Linux preinstalled. by jotaeleemeese · · Score: 2, Insightful

    That is how you normally buy any other machines.

    And please don't buy a lottery ticket, I keep installing Ubuntu and normally I have no problems (WiFi cards are a problem, but not completely unsupported).

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  14. Re:Apple is hardly promoting it as a dev platform by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

    I dunno. Languages really aren't *that* much of a barricade for any professional developer. If students are able to make switches from Java to Lisp, I don't think any professional will have much issue going from Java to Objective-C. They are both OOLs and thus share many of the same principles.

    Far more pertinent to developer is the APIs available, and iPhone has a pretty awesome API for a mobile phone IMO. There are still a couple bugs, but its pretty easy to get something up that looks nice. Now maybe I just need more experience with other mobile platforms, but I was quite happy with what iPhone offers - especially since you can easily drop in Apple's excellent UI elements that you don't find on other mobiles.

  15. Android Market is a Developer Nightmare by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

    Currently if you are developing software for Android and try to sell it, you are in a shitty situation: YOU are the seller, meaning YOU have to figure out how the SALES TAX and VAT work in the WHOLE f***ing WORLD! And it is actually even worse, because it is not clear from the terms if participating in the Market essentially means the developer opened up shop in every state and country the Market operates in, subjecting them to said laws and requlations. Unless you have a big company backing you up, you will get a nasty contact from your (and maybe every country's) equivalent of IRS soon.

    Combined with 24 hour (or maybe even longer it seems in practice) period of time in which customers can cancel paid applications, a class of apps will just not make it onto Android (think games and utilities that you will finish with in less than 24 hours).

    Google Checkout is also not the smoothest buying experience to have on a phone, which will further deter customers from buying.

    Google is basically a black hole about the Market; you can't get anything out of them.

    To top it off, the number of users running Android is miniscule compared to other mobile platforms.

    There are a number of other, smaller issues with the Market, like no automatic notification of updates are likely to be implemented and fixed eventually, but for the time being all this combines to make Android a pretty miserable platform if you are trying to make money.

    There are a couple of things that Google should do to fix most of the problems:

    * Make the Market responsible for all the sales tax and VAT issues, giving developers something back for the 30% cut the Market takes
    * Start communicating

  16. BS by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

    I call BS; I renewed my Apple Dev license just 2 weeks ago in under 48 hours. Friends who are new devs and targeting the iPhone have received their licenses in under 48 hours within the past month as well.

    This article is Linux Fanboy FUD.