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Original Shakespeare Portrait Discovered, Disputed

Reader Hugh Pickens sends in news from the NYTimes a few days back of what is believed to be a 400-year-old portrait of William Shakespeare, painted 6 years before his death. No existing portrait, that most experts consider to be genuine, was captured during Shakespeare's lifetime. "It shows Shakespeare as a far more alluring figure than the solemn-faced, balding image that has been conveyed by previous engravings, busts and portraits. 'His face is open and alive, with a rosy, rather sweet expression, perhaps suggestive of modesty,' said a brochure for an exhibition opening in Stratford. The portrait came to light when Alec Cobbe visited the National Portrait Gallery in London in 2006 to see an exhibition, 'Searching for Shakespeare,' and realized that the Folger portrait, whose authenticity had been doubted for decades, was a copy of the one that had been in his family's art collection since the mid-18th century, with the family unaware that the man depicted might be Shakespeare. Scientific studies at Cambridge showed that the oak panel on which the Cobbe portrait was mounted came from trees felled in the last 20 years of the 16th century, pointing to a date for the painting in the early 1600s." For balance, the New Yorker disputes some of the claims in the NYTimes account, and for good measure tosses in another purported Shakespeare portrait from life, this one discovered 3 years ago in Canada.

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  1. from the man by girlintraining · · Score: 3, Interesting

    "God has given you one face, and you make yourself another."
    ~ William Shakespeare

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    1. Re:from the man by Massacrifice · · Score: 4, Funny

      Translation : I've been dead for 500 years, and I've written all this great stuff. Why do you care what I looked like? Go read a book, stop looking at me.

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    2. Re:from the man by BrokenHalo · · Score: 2, Insightful

      "God has given you one face, and you make yourself another."

      Exactly. people have been touching up portraits long before PhotoShop was invented.

    3. Re:from the man by MindlessAutomata · · Score: 5, Funny

      Shakespeare? Isn't he the guy that invented the ball-point pen?

  2. What's in a value? by BadAnalogyGuy · · Score: 2, Funny

    That which we call a portrait from any other time period would look as similar.

    So this portrait would, were it painted later, retain that dear perfection which it holds without that title.

  3. The one on the right in NYT link by unity100 · · Score: 2, Funny

    is WAY too real.

  4. It's Bacon, not Shakespeare! by B1oodAnge1 · · Score: 2, Funny

    That's not Shakespeare, it's clearly Sir Francis Bacon.

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    1. Re:It's Bacon, not Shakespeare! by zippthorne · · Score: 5, Funny

      I don't know about that, but I'll put even money he was less than six degrees from Bacon.

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    2. Re:It's Bacon, not Shakespeare! by Hikaru79 · · Score: 5, Funny

      William Shakespeare wrote Romeo and Juliet, which much later starred Leonardo DiCaprio, who was in Critters 3 with Geoffrey Blake, who was in Frost/Nixon with Kevin Bacon. I win :)

    3. Re:It's Bacon, not Shakespeare! by Penguinshit · · Score: 3, Funny

      That's FRANCIS Bacon, you insensitive clod!

    4. Re:It's Bacon, not Shakespeare! by VValdo · · Score: 3, Funny

      That's FRANCIS Bacon, you insensitive clod!

      How's this:

      William Shakespeare wrote Romeo + Juliet which starred Leonardo DeCaprio who starred in Gangs of New York with Tim Pigott-Smith who was in Sweet William with Melvyn Bragg who was the narrator in Francis Bacon.

      W

      (thanks to the Oracle.)

       

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  5. Lots of common features by dwhitaker · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Whatever the end result is on the authenticity of either of these portraits, it seems every portrait shares the basic physical traits that we collectively think of as "Shakespeare". Moreover, from what I can tell they seem to be in line with his bust in Holy Trinity Church which was erected not terribly long after his death. It seems to me that if any of these portraits/busts/etc. had been far from the mark, there would have been some sort of protest from the people who knew him when he was alive (or commissioned the work). In the end, we will never know exactly what he looks like, but we do have a pretty good idea.

    1. Re:Lots of common features by FatdogHaiku · · Score: 4, Funny

      In the end, we will never know exactly what he looks like, but we do have a pretty good idea.

      And it's a pity someone so talented did not write an autobiography... at least then we could have looked at the dust jacket inside the back cover...

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  6. 'Shopped by yotto · · Score: 2, Funny

    That's totally Photoshopped. I can see the streak marks.

  7. How many years old? by a+whoabot · · Score: 4, Informative

    Right now the summary reads: "...NYTimes a few days back of what is believed to be a 500-year-old portrait of William Shakespeare, painted 6 years before his death."

    If the portrait is 500 years old, and it was painted 6 years before his death, I believe I'm being told that Shakespeare died in AD 2009 - 500 + 6 = 1515. This page says that Shakespeare was born 1564. How could Shakespeare have died before he was born? Even if this is true though, and he lived his entire life and wrote all his works while in his mother's womb and died in there in 1515, how could his corpse remain in there for some 49 years when he was still-born? And besides this, how did he develop bodily and mentally in utero such that he was able to lead a life as he did? How did he compose and direct and act? And then how did the artist figure what Shakespeare looked like? Is that the news I'm missing here? Did they have some sort of ultra-sound technology in 1509 and we've just re-discovered this now?

  8. It's 'shopped by poity · · Score: 3, Funny

    I can tell from the brushstrokes and having seen a few 'shops in my time.

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  9. Fake! by kramulous · · Score: 2, Funny

    An elaborate fake perhaps, but still a fake. Yes, the frame is made from trees from the period but the only difference between the canvas and existing paintings is that this time the man has a beard and features painted in a different light.

    Even a moderate understudy of art could have produced this.

    Or, doth mine eyes deceive me?

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  10. Summary is wrong by colinrichardday · · Score: 3, Funny

    The article uses 400, rather than 500, years, so the summary is wrong. And why is your post modded funny instead of informative?

  11. Re:Marlowe! by Mr.+Bad+Example · · Score: 2, Informative

    > No it's not. It's... it's... it's... Christopher Marlowe!
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    > Even 400 years later, the loony theories abound.

    More than you know. One of the original "Shakespeare didn't write Shakespeare" proponents was the unfortunately-named J. Thomas Looney*, who said Edward de Vere, the Earl of Oxford, wrote everything, despite the inconvenient fact that de Vere died about nine years before Shakespeare's last recorded play was written.

    *Apparently pronounced "loney", but still... Apparently Looney's publisher asked him to use a pseudonym, but he refused.

  12. I guess .... by PPH · · Score: 2, Funny

    .... this is the earliest recorded instance of "Pics or it didn't happen".

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  13. STUPID! STUPID!! STUPID!!! by Nom+du+Keyboard · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Scientific studies at Cambridge showed that the oak panel on which the Cobbe portrait was mounted came from trees felled in the last 20 years of the 16th century, pointing to a date for the painting in the early 1600s.

    Why do you have to mix two different measurement systems to the confusion of the readers? Why give dates as both 16th century (meaning the 1500s) and 1600s (meaning the 17th century) in the same d@mn sentence? Pick one method and stick with it!

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