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MacBook Modded With Second Monitor Inside Logo

An anonymous reader from the Macmod forum wrote in with this appealing hack: "This is one of the coolest mods I've seen all year. Mac Moder EdsJunk submitted this mod to our forums late Thursday night. By cracking open a MacBook he was able to put a second monitor inside of the screen. The end result is sweet. The second monitor can make the Apple logo have any kind of background, like the clown fish, or the flurry screen saver."

153 comments

  1. Sup dawg... by juanfgs · · Score: 3, Funny

    we herd you like screens so we put a screen on your screen so you can watch while you watch..

    1. Re:Sup dawg... by ShieldW0lf · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Wonder if you can you play battleship with it...

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    2. Re:Sup dawg... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Funny

      Hello! So, this is my first post on Slashdot (I love the name! It's so clever. When I tried to tell somebody the address, h - t - t - p, colon, slash, slash, slashdot dot org they got soooo confused! I laughed at the sheer cleverness of the founders!)

      Anyway, I'm just glad to finally be posting here on ole Slashdot. It's a pretty neat website, and looks so modern and clean! I wish I knew how to design websites as well as this one, I'd be a hit at the next office party after I redesign our internal bbs. It'll be super :)

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    3. Re:Sup dawg... by Dan+East · · Score: 1

      Perhaps, if he embedded a touch panel in there too.

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    4. Re:Sup dawg... by Tetsujin · · Score: 3, Funny

      There should be a moderation for "+1, Use of Meme" - I think that applies much better than "Funny" in this case... Then there could also be a matching "-1, Use of Meme"...

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    5. Re:Sup dawg... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Funny

      Ahh... we are all good over here. It's wonderful to have a new member in the Family.

      And best of all on this, most special day, ~Freddy.

    6. Re:Sup dawg... by RoFLKOPTr · · Score: 1

      Then there could also be a matching "-1, Misuse of Meme"...

      Fixed

    7. Re:Sup dawg... by LandDolphin · · Score: 1

      Not needed. When a Meme is used at the appropriate time, it received a +1 Funny. When it's not, then it is over looked or receives a -1 over rated.

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    8. Re:Sup dawg... by Tetsujin · · Score: 1

      Then there could also be a matching "-1, Misuse of Meme"...

      Fixed

      I see what you did there...

      I think use or misuse of a meme generally amounts to the same thing, though. Memes are, by their very nature, overused jokes. I figure some people will want to add points for meme use, others will want to subtract points for meme use - personally I'd just like to filter the whole lot of them out. :)

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    9. Re:Sup dawg... by TriezGamer · · Score: 1

      And yet you use one? Personally I feel that memes can be hilarious -- even old, over-used ones -- if used in a particularly clever way.

      The sad thing is that a completely off-topic quote from an author like Adams or a snippet of Monty Python is usually modded Funny instead of off-topic, which is where things start to break down a bit. /offtopic

    10. Re:Sup dawg... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Look, I don't get what you guys are talking about at all. What's the deal?

      ~Leatherface

    11. Re:Sup dawg... by Mozk · · Score: 1

      I see what you did there...

      +1, Use of Meme

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    12. Re:Sup dawg... by mad+flyer · · Score: 1

      Dugg

      oups sorry... wrong site...

  2. oled by jlebrech · · Score: 1, Interesting

    i'm it must be an oled screen! they should be hired by mac (i'm sure that's what the stunt is for)

    1. Re:oled by Yvan256 · · Score: 3, Insightful

      The Mac cannot hire anyone, it's a brand of computers.

      Maybe you meant Apple?

    2. Re:oled by anothy · · Score: 1

      no, he meant MAC. he really liked the guy's makeup.

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    3. Re:oled by saiha · · Score: 1

      Apple Inc.

    4. Re:oled by HTH+NE1 · · Score: 1

      Macc OS Metrics?

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    5. Re:oled by jgoemat · · Score: 1

      i'm sure [sic] it must be an oled screen!

      Actually, the backlight for the screen on the front shines through a glass Apple logo on the back of the factory MacBooks. This would probably be a LCD. You can buy a 320x240 one for $40.

      they should be hired by mac (i'm sure that's what the stunt is for)

      Well, they got onto slashdot and created an Ebay auction for it (now up to $1,525 with 16 bids and over 7 days left), so I think that was probably what the stunt was for.

      The obvious utility of this would be two-fold:

      1. Displaying pure white like the normal Apple logo, then occasionally having a bug walk across it.
      2. Displaying the iSight view re-arranged to make it look like there was an Apple logo-shaped hole in the screen.
  3. Wow by Chrisq · · Score: 3, Interesting

    I wa amazed that they could get one screen into such a thin lid!

  4. argh by drinkypoo · · Score: 3, Informative

    "From the MacMod forums..." ... "Sorry but the board is temporarily unavailable, please try again in a few minutes."

    Seems like a relatively trivial hack, if you can get the video-out from the DisplayPort connector to work inside the machine somehow. Since the panel backlight is already exposed at the rear to light the Apple logo, the hardest part ought to be getting the backlight off of the LCD you want to cram in there.

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    1. Re:argh by mstromb · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Relatively trivial?

      If this is something you consider commonplace or ordinary, I'd like to know what you'd actually consider impressive or of merit.

    2. Re:argh by hesiod · · Score: 4, Funny

      A life-size, fully operational Death Star. This is installing a very small monitor into a tight place. Kind of neat, but utterly useless.

    3. Re:argh by KillerBob · · Score: 4, Informative

      Compared to some of the mods that people are doing, this one is pretty easy. The backlight usually isn't even physically attached to the lcd, and the LCD itself is about 0.5-1mm thick (depending on brand/type). Buy an off-the-shelf 2" LCD, remove the backlight, and connect it to the motherboard through the appropriate connector. There's probably a little bowing just because of the space considerations, but other than that it's not a difficult mod at all. As GP said, the backlight from the main LCD is already exposed, and I'd think the hardest part of the mod would be putting some kind of polyvinyl or acrylate coating on the back LCD to prevent it from scratching.

      Laptop LCD's are remarkably easy to open up and work with. You just need the right kind of screwdriver.

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    4. Re:argh by drinkypoo · · Score: 3, Interesting

      If this is something you consider commonplace or ordinary, I'd like to know what you'd actually consider impressive or of merit.

      Don't get me wrong, I think this is a fantastically sexy mod. I don't think it was especially difficult, but then, I haven't cracked one open to check, have I? My point was that the nature of the machine in question makes this mod easier. The kind of thing which actually impresses me, however, is more like the full-custom super-art cases (like the classic HL2 case that was posted and then later duped here, IIRC) which are mighty works of creativity, or modifications which substantially increase functionality. This is just eye-candy, and you don't even get to look at it; in order to make it do anything interesting you have to piss away CPU time. Show me a complete PDA stuck into the case (a cellphone might be easier and would be more useful - is there an expresscard slot in there? you could use that space) which can do this stuff independently and I'll probably be as excited as you want me to be about this.

      Someone else said in this thread that this was a 100% jerkoff waste of time that only a Mac fanboy could love. I would put another qualifier on it; it's a 100% jerkoff waste of CPU time that only a Mac fanboy could love. NeXTStep was peppy on MC68040-based computers with like 32MB memory. OSX is a dog on a Dual G5 with 2 GB memory. The major difference I can see between the two operating systems (aside from compatibility changes and some new libraries) is that OSX has a lot more eye candy, emphasis on "candy", while NeXTStep had a professional look which is now dated.

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    5. Re:argh by Chrisq · · Score: 5, Funny

      A life-size, fully operational Death Star.

      Pha, Saddam Hussain did even better than that, he made weapons of ms destruction that were totally invisible.

    6. Re:argh by Teilo · · Score: 4, Informative

      Seems like a relatively trivial hack

      Take it from someone who has actually replaced LCD panels in a MacBook Pro. This is NOT a relatively trivial hack.

      And you cannot just "get the backlight off the LCD". The back portion of the panel proper is a reflective surface. Take that off, and your panel goes dark, except for two of the edges where the CCFL tubes or LED arrays are located.

      On the MacBook Pro what this guy is doing would be nearly impossible. There is just no room between the panel and the shell. There's a bit more room in the regular MacBook.

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    7. Re:argh by Teilo · · Score: 1

      And, of course, I can't read. Sorry. My bad.

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    8. Re:argh by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

      >Pha, Saddam Hussain did even better than that, he made weapons of ms destruction that were totally invisible.

      Even so, as if they'd do anything, his weapons only lasted for a ms.

    9. Re:argh by Junior+J.+Junior+III · · Score: 4, Funny

      Do not underestimate the power of the reverse side of the laptop screen.

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    10. Re:argh by xrayspx · · Score: 1, Funny

      Laptop LCD's are remarkably easy to open up and work with. You just need the right kind of screwdriver ^W hammer.

      Fixed

    11. Re:argh by siriuskase · · Score: 1

      That's the best kind. The masses have been destroyed and we still haven't found the weapons.

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    12. Re:argh by garaged · · Score: 1

      yeah, the kind of weapon that relies on "persuasion" over a stupid president on a powerful country to make a war based on null evidence of anything

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    13. Re:argh by LanMan04 · · Score: 1

      I run OS X on a single-processor 1.25GHz G4 with 2GB of RAM and it runs just fine, assuming I keep the number of application I have open at any given time to a small number. Does your video card support CoreImage and CoreVideo? If not, that might be why it's dogging a bit. But really, OS X is a very responsive OS on old hardware. Hell, I had 10.3 loaded on a 266MHz G3 and it ran OK.

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    14. Re:argh by drinkypoo · · Score: 0, Flamebait

      Pha, Saddam Hussain did even better than that, he made weapons of ms destruction that were totally invisible.

      That's funny, I was pretty sure that those weapons were invented by the Bush administration.

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    15. Re:argh by drinkypoo · · Score: 2, Interesting

      I run OS X on a single-processor 1.25GHz G4 with 2GB of RAM and it runs just fine, assuming I keep the number of application I have open at any given time to a small number.

      Is that because you're running out of memory, or some other reason?

      Does your video card support CoreImage and CoreVideo?

      Yes, it did. I don't work there any more. When I quit I left with the Core Duo T2600-based laptop running Windows XP, which was much more responsive.

      But really, OS X is a very responsive OS on old hardware. Hell, I had 10.3 loaded on a 266MHz G3 and it ran OK.

      I ran 10.1 through 10.3 on a 266 MHz G3, and it did not run OK. I'm quite serious that if you put that next to a NeXTStep-installed Turbo Slab, and run through some basic tasks (author an email, browse some network shares, for example) then you will see that OSX is a dog. Its ancestor is about the same speed at some tasks and faster at most (until you get into big CPU crunching of course) and is running on a system that probably has less than half as much raw processing power as the average video card installed into a G3. The whole thing is subjective, I guess; if you learned (as my mother did) to be happy with Quadras while the PC users were getting processors with at first twice, then ten times the performance (literally) for the same amount of money or less, and running a cooperatively-multitasking operating system that would crash at the drop of a hat (any hat) then I guess OSX seemed fast to you.

      I mostly gave up on Apple when they were telling us that we should be happy with 68040-based machines when they could at least have given us an '060 while we waited for PowerPC. I gave up on them completely when PowerPC came out and it was fast for all of about a second and then got dogged by the PC again, and hard - and Apple told us we should pay more for the privilege. I gave them the benefit of the doubt and tried the G3. They fucked up the IDE chip and created UDMA errors with most hard drives. Their solution? Buy an IDE card, or disable UDMA through the use of a third-party commercial on-disk driver (e.g. FWB toolbox.) I then had to use the dual G5 at work, and was completely disappointed.

      I've been there with Apple since elementary school. I had an Apple ][+, which I followed with an Amiga 500. During that time I also used a IIci (as a teenager living at home, I had access to my mother's computer which she used to do graphic arts work like typesetting, mostly in pagemaker) a great deal, maintained it, tweaked it, et cetera. Eventually my Ami died and I got an IBM PC-1 with 448kB memory... anyway, the long sad story continues through a couple of Quadras and a Performa-badged Quadra (I forget which model(s) it was) and then a PPC601-based mac. Finally I got a 386DX25, put Linux on it, and said goodbye to all that nonsense. I've installed MacOS5 on a Lisa and all kinds of other useless Mac-related stuff and I sincerely wish I could get all of that time back and spend it on something useful, like studying programming. The amount of time I spent fucking with INITs and CDEVs alone would have been enough for a solid grounding.

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    16. Re:argh by Golddess · · Score: 1

      Pha, Saddam Hussain did even better than that, he made weapons of ms destruction that were totally invisible.

      That's funny, I was pretty sure that those weapons were invented by the Bush administration.

      Woosh?

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    17. Re:argh by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      If you are wooshing yourself.

    18. Re:argh by drinkypoo · · Score: 1

      Woosh?

      Yes, Woosh. You totally missed the joke, and fucked it all up. Nice going. Hint: The word invented has multiple meanings. Look it up sometime.

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    19. Re:argh by Gridpoet · · Score: 1

      So Saddam Hussein has his own distro of Linux?

      TowelHat maybe?

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    20. Re:argh by garaged · · Score: 1

      can you tell me how in the world would you put the video part on that mod ??

      Puting a screen anywhere is easy, but what about the signal to make it do anything besides stand still in monochromatic background mode.

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    21. Re:argh by petermgreen · · Score: 1

      well the macbook has an output for an external monitor so it should be a simple matter of picking off the signals from there. Connectors tend to be through hole and relatively wide pitch so picking off the signals shouldn't be too hard. Probablly much easier than the soldering involved in fitting some console modchips.

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    22. Re:argh by camperdave · · Score: 1

      No, he had it right.

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    23. Re:argh by Golddess · · Score: 1

      Invent:
      1 archaic : find, discover
      2: to devise by thinking : fabricate
      3: to produce (as something useful) for the first time through the use of the imagination or of ingenious thinking and experiment

      Or from Wiktionary:
      1. To design a new process or mechanism.
      2. To create something fictional for a particular purpose.

      Regardless of the definition you use, to me (and to others it would seem), it came across as more of a snide remark than an extension of the joke.

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    24. Re:argh by syusuf · · Score: 1

      Do not underestimate the power of the reverse side of the laptop screen.

      would that be the "dark side"?

    25. Re:argh by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      No, the destruction takes a ms. One moment you're admiring the view from a mountain over the city, the next your in awe at the complete destruction. You don't even see it happen...

  5. Cool... but limited by PrescriptionWarning · · Score: 4, Informative

    I could see the use of it being an extra interface for quickly showing you the date and time, and perhaps even if you have unread mail or IM's waiting for you, but if its just to display images its just a toy

    1. Re:Cool... but limited by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It can display anything. It is a small area, of course, but you can use it to display notifications of emails, date, time, IMs, anything really. Just a suitable Growl theme that uses the area effectively and you're ready to go. I'd love to do that in my Macbook, I wonder how he did it and if its possible to do in one of the older models (without losing the external output). Cool.

    2. Re:Cool... but limited by Atzanteol · · Score: 1
      Pffft. You "far too serious for your own good" folks piss me off sometimes.

      I'd run xeyes on it...

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    3. Re:Cool... but limited by Chris+Tucker · · Score: 1

      "Pffft. You "far too serious for your own good" folks"

      No shit!

      Anyone here who doesn't understand what "a neat hack" means really should go someplace where Serious and Constructive discussions of a Serious and Constructive nature take place amongst fellow Serious and Constructive users of Serious and Constructive computers.

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  6. I'm surprised. by fuzzyfuzzyfungus · · Score: 2, Interesting

    If somebody managed to put a screen behind the logo, that means that there was some extra space in the original design. That seems very un-maclike. Apple has, repeatedly, shown a willingness to make considerable design sacrifices in order to shave off a few millimeters.

    1. Re:I'm surprised. by drinkypoo · · Score: 5, Informative

      If somebody managed to put a screen behind the logo, that means that there was some extra space in the original design. That seems very un-maclike. Apple has, repeatedly, shown a willingness to make considerable design sacrifices in order to shave off a few millimeters.

      That is not "extra" space. That space is there to allow you to push on the case without breaking your LCD. This guy has just squandered that and the first time he sets something heavy on his laptop by accident he's going to break his panel, because he's now going to push directly in the center of it. If Apple meant for there to be zero clearance there, they would have made it so. I've had (and expressed) lots of problems with Apple hardware in the past, but case design isn't one of them - albeit, Apple has gone substantially backwards in many regards. Ever take apart, say, a Mac IIci? It's actually kind of a joyful experience. Now, ever try to disassemble a classic iMac to make some upgrades? Egads! Even fucking around with the blue-handled Xcelite MacCaseCracker on a classic doorstop Mac is pleasant by comparison. I haven't taken apart a Mini, but the instruction photos leave me shaking my head.

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    2. Re:I'm surprised. by fuzzyfuzzyfungus · · Score: 3, Insightful

      I'm quite fond of the G4 towers, and I hear similarly good, or better, things about the G5 and Xeon ones; but their all-in-one designs, laptop and desktop, seem to have escaped from a utopian universe where HDDs never have to be replaced.

    3. Re:I'm surprised. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You're absolutely correct in most points, but I disagree with the assessment that "Apple has gone substantially backwards in many regards."

      Service-friendliness has not been a priority at Apple since even the very first Macintosh built.

      The original Macintosh cases were NOT fun to disassemble, requiring a special extra-long driver. PitA.

      Of the iMacs, only the original G5 iMac was really fun to work on.

      The unibody MacBooks/MacBook Pros are the cleanest, most service-friendly laptops Apple has ever built. Except for replacing the keyboard.

      But that's why god made electric screwdrivers.

    4. Re:I'm surprised. by Darth · · Score: 1

      I have taken a Mini apart (a couple of times actually). Opening the case can be a little tricky the first time, but it isn't that big a deal. Once the case is off, the rest is laid out nicely and comes apart very easily.

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    5. Re:I'm surprised. by drinkypoo · · Score: 1

      Service-friendliness has not been a priority at Apple since even the very first Macintosh built.

      I've been into two different doorstop macintoshes, the ONLY special tool you need for ANY maintenance inside of one (other than perhaps adjusting CRT with a fiberglass screwdriver) is the case cracker. Getting in there only requires removing a few screws and once you're in there, it's quite easy to work on. The idea was to stop your kids from taking apart your computer, not to prevent the user from ever opening the case. If that was the goal they'd have put a lock on it, and kept the keys.

      The unibody MacBooks/MacBook Pros are the cleanest, most service-friendly laptops Apple has ever built. Except for replacing the keyboard.

      There's always an exception. Too bad it's one of the most disposable parts of the laptop.

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    6. Re:I'm surprised. by Teilo · · Score: 1

      Actually, I do have a problem with the case design of the old-style Aluminum Macbook Pros. The cases are weak. They dent or bend WAY too easily. I have stripped more than one of them down just to pound out the dents and bend the case back into shape.

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    7. Re:I'm surprised. by LanMan04 · · Score: 1

      I used to be a Mac Genius, and the iMacs we sold at the time were the "half volley ball" based ones with the screen on a metal arm. Taking one of those apart to get to the monitor arm made me want to kill myself. Huge pain.

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    8. Re:I'm surprised. by IntlHarvester · · Score: 1

      You needed a long hexagonal screwdriver or allen wrench, which is an obscure enough tool that Mac vendors made a killing selling them.

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    9. Re:I'm surprised. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I haven't taken apart a Mini, but the instruction photos leave me shaking my head.

      The Mac Mini took a little bit of effort to get open, and you end up scuffing it up a bit (at least I did on my 1st gen G4), but its a pretty simple straightforward operation that just requires force applied in the right places.

    10. Re:I'm surprised. by Uberbah · · Score: 1

      Oh, you mean the iLamps.

    11. Re:I'm surprised. by Ma8thew · · Score: 1

      Actually their laptops have very good access to their hard drives. Although it's a very involved process to change an iMac or Mac mini drive, it's incredibly easy on a modern Macbook or Macbook Pro. Apple even provides instructions .

    12. Re:I'm surprised. by drinkypoo · · Score: 1

      I've been into two different doorstop macintoshes, the ONLY special tool you need for ANY maintenance inside of one (other than perhaps adjusting CRT with a fiberglass screwdriver) is the case cracker.

      You needed a long hexagonal screwdriver or allen wrench, which is an obscure enough tool that Mac vendors made a killing selling them.

      That's what I just said. Various vendors used to sell it as a "MacCaseCracker" but apparently that usage has fallen out of favor. However, it was the only wacky tool you needed, and they were NOT that expensive.

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    13. Re:I'm surprised. by michaeldot · · Score: 1

      I've had (and expressed) lots of problems with Apple hardware in the past, but case design isn't one of them - albeit, Apple has gone substantially backwards in many regards. Ever take apart, say, a Mac IIci? It's actually kind of a joyful experience. Now, ever try to disassemble a classic iMac to make some upgrades? Egads! Even fucking around with the blue-handled Xcelite MacCaseCracker on a classic doorstop Mac is pleasant by comparison. I haven't taken apart a Mini, but the instruction photos leave me shaking my head.

      I build my own PCs, but every so often I do get to pull apart a Mac of various vintages - most recently, a Mac Pro to put a Broadcom 802.11n module into it (the most IIci of their current line), and a base Mac Mini to bump it to 4 GB and a 500 GB drive (interior design reminiscent of a Cube).

      It's actually a very satisfying experience being in amongst the Apple hardware: there's a certain artistry to getting the most use out of the diminished space of their designs, and the feeling is more of being a delicate caver exploring a new miniature subterranean world than serviceman.

      The analogy is that building a PC is like "electrical" wiring where you route power cables under floorboards or up walls, there's space aplenty. Inside an Apple is like "electronics" where every atom of space counts. The Mini is like a large PSP.

      There's no question you have to delicate turn your delicate setting to 11 when operating inside a Mac.

      A PC you can basically upgrade with a blunt hammer.

    14. Re:I'm surprised. by lpaul55 · · Score: 1

      The Mac mini isn't hard to work with on the inside. The worst part is getting it open. After that it's a lot of tiny screws. I did a memory upgrade on the first try with a set of photos as a guide.

      If you look at the instructions and decide it's not something you want to try, then it may be best to stick to software.

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  7. Re:Cool... but limited... only by your imagination by NeverVotedBush · · Score: 5, Interesting

    You could do virtually anything with this mod - as one poster put it, put the image from the camera on it, or you could scroll RSS feeds, put other logos inside the Apple cutout just to screw with people, an animated eye looking around and winking, etc.

    Maybe just a toy, but a very cool toy that could easily be very useful.

    I really like the idea of an eye looking around and blinking. You could even have it follow your cursor on the screen that you see so you could have it look at people and follow them around the room. Wink on a click.

    Very fun! The guy is clever!

  8. I misread the summary.... by Shrike82 · · Score: 1

    ...as "An anonymous reader from the Macmod forum wrote in with this appalling hack"

    Given the amount of effort required just to install a tiny screen that faces away from you while you use the MacBook, I think my interpretation might be more accurate!

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    1. Re:I misread the summary.... by Chris+Tucker · · Score: 1

      Anyone here who doesn't understand what "a neat hack" means really should go someplace where Serious and Constructive discussions of a Serious and Constructive nature take place amongst fellow Serious and Constructive users of Serious and Constructive computers.

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  9. Legos! by HiggsBison · · Score: 1

    Anyone else think that said "MacBook Modded With Second Monitor Inside Lego" at first?

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    1. Re:Legos! by cshcrgo · · Score: 1

      Anyone else think that said "MacBook Modded With Second Monitor Inside Lego" at first?

      Sure did! I'm glad you pointed it out to me so I can stop waiting for macmod.com to load, logos aren't as impressive.

  10. Re:Cool... but limited... only by your imagination by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Maybe just a toy, but a very cool toy that could easily be very useful.

    I really like the idea of an eye looking around and blinking.

    You and I have very different definitions for the word "useful".

  11. Youtube Vid of this by jDeepbeep · · Score: 5, Informative

    For those who may be having difficulty accessing TF(slashdotted)A

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=is5GZNHPfo0

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    1. Re:Youtube Vid of this by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      OMG Ponies!

    2. Re:Youtube Vid of this by muffen · · Score: 1

      If you are using Firefox you can get the slashdotter addon, amongst other things it gives you cache links in case the page gets slashdotted.

      If you aren't using Firefox, you can get it here

      If you aren't using Firefox and don't want to get it, you should go here

    3. Re:Youtube Vid of this by pmarini · · Score: 1

      I'm always baffled by how easily sites gets overloaded by a simple post on slashdot... how many users have actually tried to open that page in order to make the site timeout so quickly and for so long ?
      this was an article specific to Apple Mac and although I understand that the /. crowd is rather technically inclined (meaning most Windows aficionados would have probably skipped on it), how on earth can a few thousand (almost) simultaneous accesses bring the site to its knees ?!

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    4. Re:Youtube Vid of this by skeeto · · Score: 1

      And the coralized link,

      http://www.macmod.com.nyud.net/featured-mods/1933-apple-logo-converted-to-second-monitor

      However, many corporate firewalls block this as "proxy avoidance".

    5. Re:Youtube Vid of this by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      a few thousand ??

      This from a person with a UID of almost a million.

      Me thinks you may be off by an order of mangntude.

  12. cool hack by MoreDruid · · Score: 2, Interesting

    I read the article before the site went down, and the video is very impressive, the screen is recognized as a secondary screen, so you can basically display anything you want on it. In the video it shows playing some videos, an iTunes visualization and the output of the built in webcam (iSight).

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  13. Not quite perfect by stokessd · · Score: 1

    You can see the screen glowing through the black plastic slightly. He should have painted the inside of the lid in that area to prevent the bleed-through.

    Not sure how useful or if it's even an improvement, but based on the bleed-through, he's not quite finished yet.

    Sheldon

    1. Re:Not quite perfect by gabebear · · Score: 1

      This could be fixed in-software. The bleed-through only happens when there is a bright pixel behind it... just make those pixels black.

      You might even be able to create some neat effects with it(i.e. ring the logo with light shining through the body).

    2. Re:Not quite perfect by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      judging from the youtube video, that might just be video artefacts or something from the compression.

  14. video by jDeepbeep · · Score: 1

    the video is very impressive

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=is5GZNHPfo0

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  15. Sounds perfect for... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

    Windows sideshow!

  16. Uhh... by Kokuyo · · Score: 1

    Wouldn't it have made more sense to cut out a portion of the lid and make the whole screen usable? I'm thinking presentations in environments that have no beamer handy. Say a meeting consisting of four people or so...

    1. Re:Uhh... by OctaviusIII · · Score: 1

      It would make sense if you wanted to cut out the cool and add utility in its place.

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    2. Re:Uhh... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It would be cooler to have the entire screen usable. If you ever want your Apple advertising back, then just throw up an image of their logo.

  17. Re:Cool... but limited... only by your imagination by houghi · · Score: 3, Informative

    A toy if your case is open. Closed it could give you information in the form of icons. Or you could rent it out as ad space. Or a clock or ...

    And anyway indeed way cool. Makes me want one.

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  18. Get a room.... by epdp14 · · Score: 2, Funny

    While the visuals are absolutely stunning... I think this takes MacLoving to an all new level. I mean come on, a flaming apple? Whats next? The two Steves doing the tango?

  19. Re:Cool... but limited... only by your imagination by acidrainx · · Score: 2, Informative

    Unfortunately you can't close a Macbook without it going into standby. Not without a hack anyway.

  20. Re:Cool... but limited... only by your imagination by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

    The back light is off when the case is closed, so you can't see this. This is just a "toy" as you said, or more accurately a way of showing off (which is what the glowing Apple logo has always been). The sell an amazing number of machines because of that logo. It's easy to look around a room and see who's cool and who isn't.

  21. Overrated mod is for Cowards by drinkypoo · · Score: 0

    Why do we still have this particular rating? Do comments moderated "Overrated" still skip metamoderation, and if so, why is it still there? If a comment is overrated, isn't it overrated for a reason? I usually get modded down as "Troll" when someone disagrees with me, I guess iFanboys are slightly smarter than the average troll.

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  22. Re:Cool... but limited... only by your imagination by crunch_ca · · Score: 1

    What would be extra cool would be to put a touch screen there. Then you can have a user interface to a music player, ability to check mail, etc. without opening your laptop.

    It might save on battery life when you don't have to look at the full screen. That's assuming that the smaller screen draws less power.

    Much harder mod though.

  23. If only... by Pravetz-82 · · Score: 2, Funny

    ... they could put a server in their server to withstand a /. tsunami!

  24. Re:Cool... but limited... only by your imagination by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    that's what xeyes is for...

  25. Re:Cool... but limited... only by your imagination by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

    If you just installed a second screen in a laptop lid, I doubt that's going to phase you...

  26. Re:Cool... but limited... only by your imagination by SilverJets · · Score: 1

    If by useful you mean useless, then yes I agree.

  27. Talking to myself... by drinkypoo · · Score: 1, Offtopic

    I usually get modded down as "Troll" when someone disagrees with me, I guess iFanboys are slightly smarter than the average troll.

    Whooops! I guess I spoke too soon. Hey kids, if you believe what you're saying, you're not trolling. To suggest otherwise is to abuse the moderation system. Too bad the powers-that-be don't actually care - they took the suggestion to report abuse of moderation out of the FAQ. Slashdot is a video game (why else do you need a scoring system?) populated primarily by griefers. Too bad they seem to get a disproportionate share of those mod points that guarantee that the people most qualified to comment and vote on a particular story will only be permitted to do one or the other.

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    1. Re:Talking to myself... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Someone get grandpa his oatmeal.

    2. Re:Talking to myself... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I've been ranting on this lately also. Notice your post has been rated "off topic" already. The system doesn't work, but slashdot could give a shit as long as the ad revenue continues I assume.

      I think what pisses me off is that system invites one to simply not post or post as AC. Why post if your comment will get modded down by someone unfairly? Meanwhile "funny" posts make up the majority of all topic comments.

      Thankfully there still is some excellent posts here that I can seek out. That one nugget of "wow" is what I come here for each day.

    3. Re:Talking to myself... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Notice your post has been rated "off topic" already

      That's because it is off-topic. I would venture to say that most of us don't come on here to read messages of people whinging about the moderation system. (I.e. get over it...)

  28. Re:Cool... but limited... only by your imagination by Archimonde · · Score: 1

    I always wanted to have laptop's back lid logo something like alienware's alien head. But this one would be slightly bigger and with eyes connected to the inverse HDD activity. Just imagine how distracting that would that be.

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  29. Re:Cool... but limited... only by your imagination by mmkkbb · · Score: 1

    Not true. If another display is attached, they can go into clamshell mode. Or you can just install InsomniaX

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  30. Re:Cool... but limited... only by your imagination by sukotto · · Score: 1

    If only there was some kind of forum to discuss and learn how to do that... :-)

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  31. Cool. So now... by clickclickdrone · · Score: 0, Flamebait

    You can have a laptop with a screen on the outside like Asus etc have done for Windows machines for the last couple of years. You know, that feature that Vista introduced.

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  32. slashdotted! by sanguisdex · · Score: 1

    at 10:58 est

  33. Re:Cool... but limited... only by your imagination by firmamentalfalcon · · Score: 2, Interesting

    an animated eye looking around and winking, etc.

    That begs the question, can you wink with one eye?

  34. Let's see if I'm psychic. by Phasma+Felis · · Score: 1

    I haven't read any other comments yet, but I'm using my psychic powers to predict that they will be full of people who cheer when someone spends months on a Windows or Linux casemod, calling this stupid because it's on a Mac.

    Let's go check, shall we?

  35. Re:Cool... but limited... only by your imagination by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    What idiot thought that was a good idea?
    What if i was just going to the loo and just wanted to hide the screen?
    Now it goes into standby, possibly killing sessions, etc.

  36. And the survey says... by Phasma+Felis · · Score: 1

    Hm, not quite as many trolls as I expected. Pleasantly surprised. I guess I'm...sort of psychic?

  37. Re:Cool... but limited... only by your imagination by iocat · · Score: 1
    Yes, it's very easy to spot the wanna-bes with their glowing apples. Then if you see a featureless, flat black laptop back among them, you know you're seeing someone truly cool, with a ThinkPad!

    (ftr, I am typing this on a MacBook, as my ThinkPad charges next to me).

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  38. Re:Cool... but limited... only by your imagination by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Yes, this would instantly be 100x better with a touch screen, makes it infinitely more useful because now you don't even need to open the thing to see those e-mails or RSS or control music.

    The only awkward part would be the edges of the apple interfering with rectangular windows.
    The part at the top could be used to scroll through things, top-right to scroll up, bottom-left to scroll down.
    I guess they could easily just write a simple interface for other programs, plugins, etc.

    If i were Apple, i'd so be stealing his idea right now.

  39. So how long until Apple does this themselves? by Phrogman · · Score: 1

    Its a silly (but very impressive) hack, but its a lot of fun. It strikes me that Apple ought to consider building a tiny screen into the logo themselves in the next generation.

    It catches the attention of anyone looking at the laptop, its a way to show off or distinguish your laptop from any others nearby, and the entire time you are looking at whats happening *you are looking at an Apple logo*, surely thats got to be a marketing dweeb's wetdream. All they need to do is include it in the system without it using up the 2nd monitor slot. :P

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    1. Re:So how long until Apple does this themselves? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      All they need to do is include it in the system without it using up the 2nd monitor slot. :P

      Or they can get rid of the DisplayPort and call it a feature!

    2. Re:So how long until Apple does this themselves? by daw1234 · · Score: 1

      Haven't the new Macbooks got 2 gfx cards?

  40. Second monitor in the screen? by The+Gaytriot · · Score: 0, Offtopic

    Yo dawg I herd u liek monitors so i put a monitor in yo monitor so you can display while you display!

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  41. Re:Cool... but limited... only by your imagination by srussia · · Score: 1

    There really should be some sort of licensing procedure for using the phrase "beg the question"... but yeah, agree with the winking/blinking distinction.

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  42. Re:Cool... but limited... only by your imagination by slyn · · Score: 1

    Who cares, its a personal computer. If you installed a webcam on a server or are dual screening on your print server its stupid. If its your own personal laptop you can, you know, have fun with it. That's why people have things like games, or music, or movies, or spinning 3d cube desktops, etc... on their computers.

    The comment a little further down has a youtube link, and the cool factor on this is through the roof (IMnsHO). I can't wait till OLED screens get commercially viable so manufacturers can throw in nice touches like this for people that want it on the cheap.

  43. Re:Cool... but limited... only by your imagination by Richy_T · · Score: 1

    I would say so. Blinking mostly involves the eyelids where a wink also includes movement of the face below the eye and optionally head movement.

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  45. Re:Cool... but limited... only by your imagination by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    So what are you then, a wannabe with a Thinkpad?

  46. To people who tagged it as ''why'' by Ilgaz · · Score: 3, Informative

    Cray did even a more weird thing, on a multi million supercomputer which at most 4-5 super security cleared technicians would see in physical form.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cray_T3D

    (from Wiki)
    'The Cray T3D MC cabinet had an Apple Macintosh PowerBook laptop built into its front. Its only purpose was to display animated Cray Research and T3D logos on its color LCD screen.'

    And it was 5th on Top 500 back in 1998.

  47. Extra server? by canonymous · · Score: 2, Funny

    If only they had added a second server inside it too...

  48. Re:Cool... but limited... only by your imagination by acidrainx · · Score: 1

    Well my Macbook still goes into standby with another display attached. The reason it goes into standby is because it vents heat out through the keyboard. If you install a hack like InsomniaX, you risk overheating your CPU.

  49. Slashdot burned their toy database by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    MySQL its better for websites? well, not so much!

  50. Database Error: Unable to connect to the database: by tlinget · · Score: 1

    Database Error: Unable to connect to the database:Could not connect to MySQL

  51. LCD Mod Website by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Informative

    Hey guys.. im the one that did the mod.. I have put up a small website to keep you guys updated with tutorials, and even this very macbook on ebay here soon! Check it out! http://www.edsjunk.net

  52. Re:Cool... but limited... only by your imagination by atraintocry · · Score: 1

    On my MPB, if it's plugged in, I just have to attach or remove a USB device to wake the computer up, even while the lid is closed. It does get a little warm but it's not bad. The important thing is to leave the back unobstructed.

  53. LCD Mod Website by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Keep up with the news of this mod here.. http://www.edsjunk.net

    I will post tutorials, services, and even a link to a ebay auction if i decide to sell this macbook!!

  54. Re:Cool... but limited... only by your imagination by colourmyeyes · · Score: 1

    To everyone who bashes this because it's not "useful," how about spinning rims? They're heavier, less practical, and more expensive than regular rims - not "useful" at all - and (some) people love them. I look at this the same way. If you think it's stupid, OK. But just admit that while you find it stupid, there are a lot of people who would love it (like the parent post says).

    This post has the "personal computer" thing right. It's not a whole lot different than the purely cool-looking window effects that Compiz provides.

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  55. Another Animation for them ... by sycorob · · Score: 1

    I would love to see an animation of the Apple logo being eaten. All white, then play a "crunch" noise, blacken out a bite-sized piece of the screen, repeat.

    It's a cool-looking mod, I think, and since it's a screen it's instantly customizable to the user's preference. I'm honestly surprised that a laptop maker hasn't tried this before. A bendable e-Ink display could be applied to the back of the screen, allowing you to make your laptop look like anything you like, for instance, without draining power. I think we'll see a lot more of this in the future.

  56. See through screen by Kristy+Selvaggi · · Score: 2, Insightful

    They should import the image from the iSight camera :)

  57. Re:Oblig. Rocko's Modern Life quote by Kristy+Selvaggi · · Score: 1

    Your house must stink ;)

  58. USB OLED kit by CyBlue · · Score: 1

    He likely used something like this USB OLED kit. That would make more sense than using the external video port for sure.

  59. Photoshop by bluefoxlucid · · Score: 1

    The pictures look so obviously fake.

  60. Wrong: They did not put a second monitor inside! by thr0n · · Score: 1

    http://forums.msiwind.net/osx-guides/guide-glowing-apple-logo-using-lcd-backlight-wiring-t9266.html and from Hackintosh: "..hacking a hole in the lid of his netbook and letting the LED backlight shine through. He even ordered an old iBook lid from Ebay to mount in his hole." http://blog.wired.com/gadgets/2009/02/hackintosh-with.html

  61. Re:Wrong: They did not put a second monitor inside by thr0n · · Score: 1

    Argh... sorry. I am wrong - last page of the forum post says something about a second screen - sorry!

  62. Nice! by drinkypoo · · Score: 1

    Apparently if I make a comment about the Bush administration inventing false intelligence to justify an illegal attack on a foreign nation using Bush's name it's flamebait, but if I just allude to it by mentioning Saddam and the WMDs I can get a +5 comment. Way to abuse the moderation system, children. (Sure, it seems a lot like whining. But if we don't complain then obviously we enjoy the status quo.)

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  63. Re:Time by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    That is such a gross mis-characterization of the dynamics within the Apple community that it truly sickens me.

    Everyone who is anyone knows that Steve Jobs can only get off by rubbing his unit between a man's thighs.

  64. why? by pROCKrammer · · Score: 1

    em ... so why do we need this? it is not so useful thing ... also we should pay for this mini no micro monitor .... IMHO main monitor is just enough ... PS. so even you dont see the second monitor

  65. Re:Cool... but limited... only by your imagination by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    It doesn't beg the question, it raises it!

  66. Re:Cool... but limited... only by your imagination by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    You want to talk wanna-be, talk about the guy at my job who, on his work ThinkPad, has an Apple sticker placed just so.

    What a loser.

  67. anti-tremor mod by brhodewalt · · Score: 1

    Someone should mod the camcorder used to document this, possibly with a tripod?

  68. Re:Cool... but limited... only by your imagination by sanyacid · · Score: 1

    You can keep your Macbook awake after closing the lid. In fact, a little free app called InsomniaX makes it very easy.
    I could see it fitting a clock with email notifier or something else handy.

  69. Re:Cool... but limited... only by your imagination by Sorny · · Score: 1

    LOL, I'm typing this with my MacBook, which is also sitting next to a Thinkpad. I'm also toying with the idea of cloning the Thinkpad into a VM and running VMWare fusion. It'll run faster than the T41 does, and would have more RAM & disk space... However, I doubt that the nanny-ware and other crap IT forces on us would work. That, and customers would not appreciate a camera in their fab. As to the whole LCD in the apple bit, that is a bit much. Pure geek, to be sure, but utterly pointless.

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