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Believable Stupidity In Game AI

Gamasutra is running a feature written by Mick West, co-founder of Neversoft, about creating game AI that is dumb enough to defeat, yet intelligent enough that its "mistakes" are similar to those a real player would make, thus preserving the illusion that the AI is not just throwing the game. "The simplest way to introduce stupidity into AI is to reduce the amount of computation that it's allowed to perform. Chess AI generally performs billions of calculations when deciding what move to make. ... The problem with this approach is that it decreases the realism of the AI player. When you reduce the amount of computation, the AI will begin to make incredibly stupid mistakes — mistakes that are so stupid, no human would ever make them. The artificial nature of the game will then become apparent, which destroys the illusion of playing against a real opponent. ... By reducing the amount of computation, we create an AI opponent that is trying to win, but has been crippled in a way that leads to unrealistic gameplay."

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  1. Cheating AI by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Actually I don't have much issue with the quality of AI's used in games, but I don't like that so many of them cheat. A few games of gotten it right, but many AI's can track my movements through walls. In order to defeat the AI, I have to figure out how it works and so I'm constantly aware it has superhuman abilities and I find that very distracting from the realism.

    1. Re:Cheating AI by je+ne+sais+quoi · · Score: 5, Informative
      I ran into that problem just a few days ago playing Far Cry 2. I was sneaking into the airport to assassinate a character who was in a hanger... As I'm walking around the outside of the hanger towards the entrance, I hear pistol shots at the wall to my left. The AI detected me walked around outside the hanger while he was inside and with perfect accuracy, started trying to shoot through the wall at me. That's the sort of problem this article was about:

      In pool and in shooters, the computer AI is blessed with an omniscient accuracy. The shooter AI knows down to the billionth of an inch exactly where you are, and could shoot your hat off your head from five miles away. Similarly in pool, the AI knows the position of every ball and can calculate where every ball will end up before it takes a shot.

      The solution I found fascinating:

      The programmers of Fritz [a chess program] hit upon a solution that involved the AI deliberately setting up situations that the human player could exploit (with some thought) that would allow the human to gain a positional or piece advantage. Once the human player gained the advantage, the AI would resume trying to win. At no point here is the AI actually dumbed down. If anything, there is actually quite a bit more computation going on, and certainly more complexity.

      So the idea is that the AI needs to calculate precisely where you are, and then rather than hit you if the preferences are set to "hard" or miss you on the "easy" setting, probabilistically make a decision based on what a weaker or stronger human player would do. It's was a great read!

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    2. Re:Cheating AI by patro · · Score: 4, Interesting

      The programmers of Fritz [a chess program] hit upon a solution that involved the AI deliberately setting up situations that the human player could exploit (with some thought) that would allow the human to gain a positional or piece advantage. Once the human player gained the advantage, the AI would resume trying to win.

      It's so humiliating, isn't it? We can only win if the machines let us. I for one welcome...

    3. Re:Cheating AI by Vectronic · · Score: 5, Interesting

      I think that's largely because AI is generally controlled as a group entity, so there is one main master pool of data that they get information from.

      When what should be done, is that each AI is IAI or something, individual artificial intelligence, which can be done with object masking, and an analysis of what the AI can see in it's perspective camera, or it's range to a sound, instead of all players and sounds being a dot on a grid, with no regard for obstructions and range.

      Little more on topic, I don't really mind figuring out how the AI is working, what I dislike, is like hard-coded faults, usually with waypointed bots in FPS type games, where they will always get stuck at the same spot on that same path. Because then I abuse it, i'll lead them there, wait for them to get stuck, and kill them... lotsa fun for 15 minutes, but the game gets really boring quickly, however I actually like the superhuman AI as long as they still have to abide by the rules I do (not shooting through walls I can't, etc), makes for great practice.

      I generally don't play games for realism, but rather for the lack of it, I can't go out collecting coins from trees, or shooting my neighbours "really"... excluding racing/flying simulators, but usually they don't have much problems with realistic AI because of how many variables there are to "fuck with", most, if not all of which can happen in reality, sudden gust of wind, punctured tire, blown engine, etc, perhaps thats what humanoid AI games need, is more variables to be more realistic. Different eyesights, hearing, reaction times, strength, etc, etc, then slightly randomized variations on them during the same match, so that even a hard-coded fault in the AI wouldn't come to the exact same result, humans don't play by constants, why should AI.

      Now that i'm rambling, I'll end with the fact that most games are multi-player now, so they spend more time working on the human interaction with the game, and the AI is just tossed in afterwards, probably carried over from v1.0, just so they can say it has that option, expecting people to want to play people. As a side note, maybe thats the logic behind some of them, make shitty AI, to try and force more people to buy+play the game so the game is useful.

    4. Re:Cheating AI by Hurricane78 · · Score: 3, Insightful

      No. What should humiliate you, is the fact, that there is no "machine" "winning". There is only a machine blindly and incredibly stupidly processing a giant set of rules, created by programmers, out of a giant amount of knowledge of many many persons.

      So in fact you play a whole expert comitee that can every minuscule detail down to the stangest exception, in advance.

      Now if you win that, you win against them all, and are truly a genius!

      So how about that fixing your self-confidence issues? ;)

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    5. Re:Cheating AI by patro · · Score: 3, Funny

      So how about that fixing your self-confidence issues? ;)

      And how about you getting a sense of humor? ;)

    6. Re:Cheating AI by Nick+Ives · · Score: 5, Interesting

      FC2 was notorious for the enemies ability to see you through anything, they clearly didn't even attempt to solve the perfect aim / x-ray vision problem.

      The best shooter in this regard is Crysis. The enemy AI can only see you over long distances if they happen to look in your direction through either binoculars or a scope and if you can't see them they can't see you, even through bushes.

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    7. Re:Cheating AI by snowraver1 · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Civilization Revolution is terrible for this. If you play at the higher difficulties, they will spawn armies and keep sending them your way. The enemy players rarely attack each other. My G/F was playing this yesterday and one of the enemy cities would spawn close to 10 cannon armies in a single turn, then send them at the hevily fortified city to die. Next turn they did the same thing. There is no way that they should be able to build that fast.

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    8. Re:Cheating AI by Nick+Ives · · Score: 4, Interesting

      Really? I found that enemies tended to spray their fire more wildly when I disappeared into the bushes, then I would just turn on stealth and dash across open ground to alternative cover. From there it was generally a case of watching them circle in on empty ground and tossing in a grenade when they were all bunched up in my previous position! I rate it as the best AI I've seen in any FPS.

      They had scarily accurate aim even across long distances but I didn't find that too unrealistic: the enemies were all trained soldiers. Except the aliens. Crysis would've been far better without aliens.

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    9. Re:Cheating AI by jd · · Score: 3, Interesting

      I would agree - to a degree. To me, an AI should be as smart as possible (even if superhumanly so - if I wanted a human opponent, I'd go to a gaming club), but should do so on no more information than a human player would have. Thus, you should not have one side play in a "fog of war" and the other be given a full-information scenario. That doesn't cut it.

      But within the constraint of equally limited data, I have no objection to the computer throwing every clock-cycle it has into trying to beat me. I'd prefer it. Game AIs are frequently dumb to the point of being pointless.

      One wargame I used to play was "Crusade in Europe". I found out that if you bombed the enemy supply depots and just sat on the beaches of Normandy, the AI's forces would all starve to death. I successfully won World War 2 from the D-Day landings onwards with under 500 casualties. I wish to argue that this should be impossible, no matter HOW good the human player is.

      Sure, players want to win. That's natural. But they should win because they're good enough to win, not because the AI lets them, even if the AI is sneaky enough to not make it obvious that it's letting them win. Games should be hard. It took me almost a year to reach the top rank in BBC Elite. Had the AI been half-way competent, it should have taken me longer. Games that are completed and disposed of in a fortnight aren't worth the money to buy or the effort to write.

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    10. Re:Cheating AI by __aasqbs9791 · · Score: 4, Interesting

      Your mention of racing games makes me recall this racing game I was playing when I was a kid on an Atari ST called Hard Drivin' (IIRC) and I was almost beating the AI when we came up to the draw bridge jump. It was basically a ramp that automatically raised and lowered itself in a cycle, with a large tower in the middle. If you hit it when it was too low you smashed into the tower. If you hit it too high you'd overshoot the track, because right after the other side of the tower was a hard left turn. I could tell the AI was going to hit the jump at the wrong point and overshoot the whole thing, while I was going to hit it perfectly. So when I get to the other side I'm really ecstatic as I watch the shadow of the other car pass over me. I start to get less so when the shadow turns to the left and the AI car lands right in front of me, like nothing special had happened!

    11. Re:Cheating AI by Daravon · · Score: 3, Interesting

      Customizing AI in the original Unreal Tournament was pretty amazing. You could specify different attributes like accuracy, and even specify favorite weapons. Using that, you could set up the bots so that you might be facing twelve "Brosephs" running around with rocket launchers, but you know true fear if you see "Will Hunting" coming at you.

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    12. Re:Cheating AI by bFusion · · Score: 3, Insightful

      My problem with Crysis was that they had a specific limit to their "vision" I could stand outside that radius and shoot a guy until he died and he would simply stand there not moving. It was very disappointing for me.

      Maybe my game was bugged or something.

    13. Re:Cheating AI by Walkingshark · · Score: 3, Funny

      Farcry 2 had a LOT of problems with it. But I'd suggest that *I* know when someone is outside my door without being able to see them. And back in my college years I REALLY knew when the upstairs neighbors were home without ever seeing them.

      Did you also shoot at them through the walls and ceiling with perfect accuracy?

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    14. Re:Cheating AI by SharpFang · · Score: 3, Funny

      if you can't see them they can't see you,

      AFAIK they used this approach in Half-Life 2.
      Pick up jar.
      Obstruct the line of sight to the turret.
      Approach turret, carrying the jar in front of you.
      Crowbar the turret.

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  2. Easy solution by L4t3r4lu5 · · Score: 4, Funny

    Have a PRNG have the outcome of 313373 cause the bot to either:
    - Fall on own grenade.
    - Rocket-jump at 25 health.
    - Hump the face of the nearest corpse.

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    1. Re:Easy solution by Aladrin · · Score: 4, Insightful

      You're joking, but having realistic actions like teabagging a defeated corpse brings a lot more illusion of reality than a lot of the other stuff they do.

      As for the article, I saw a lot of 'dumbing down' and 'intelligent mistakes' ... But I saw absolutely nothing about 'personality'. -That- is what makes an AI seem real.

      Take the poker example. If you just create 3 levels of players, bad, good, and perfect... There's no personality.

      Instead, you make different players: Cardsharp, timid bets, reckless bets, etc. In other words, you model the AIs after real player types.

      In other words, you're trying to pass the poker Turing test with this AI.

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    2. Re:Easy solution by somersault · · Score: 4, Interesting

      Bah. It depresses me how bad the AI still is in FPS games after I made my own bots for CS years ago (when I didn't have a decent internet connection - when I got broadband I stopped making the bots). My bots had different personalities, can't remember if you specifically had to specify rusher/camper/whatever or if it was just a certain courage level, but you could specify obedience level (for responding to radio commands), weapon preferences, ability to use grenades, aiming skill (higher skill levels would use more controllerd fire and be more likely to HS you on the first shot, while lower ones would start at about chest level then just spray and pray), whether they were able to look sideways to check for enemies down side alleys as they were running along a path etc, all per bot so you could create awesome bots (modelled on myself and my friends :P), and noobs, etc. In the last incarnation they were starting to pick up knowledge of stuff like where they had killed enemies or died themselves which affected their 'courage' and how likely they were to start sneaking around or rushing (made a big difference because you can't hear walking enemies in CS and the bots respected that). Those were the days.. AI is fun, at least for games like Counter-Strike.. it's not quite so much fun for stuff like board games..

      If anyone still has CS 1.5 and wants to try them out they're called TEAMbot and one of the last releases is still up at http://www.planethalflife.com/teambot . I probably still have the latest version of the source on one of my old HDs..

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  3. Interesting thought by JustNilt · · Score: 4, Interesting

    So, basically, we have to determine how many "calculations per second" equivalent an average human can manage. Then we have to allow a range on either side of that since not everyone has the same capacity. Once we manage that, game AI would start being more realistic, huh?

    Somehow I doubt it's that simplistic but still sort of interesting.

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    1. Re:Interesting thought by MBCook · · Score: 5, Informative

      That's not what I got out of the article.

      What I took away was have your opponent play it's strongest, but make exploitable situations for the player. Make a pool shot so they human starts in a good position. Make a chess move that, while beneficial, opening a big possible hole for the player to exploit. Make the FPS bot run for cover at the wrong moment, but not randomly/suicidally.

      (those are all from the article)

      Basically make the AI make human like mistakes (mistakes in strategy) instead of "computer like" mistakes (just lowering their accuracy, not looking far ahead, etc).

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    2. Re:Interesting thought by MobyDisk · · Score: 5, Informative

      Actually, he is saying the opposite. He is saying that by reducing the number of calculations per second, you create an unrealistic opponent. Instead, you must do additional calculations to model the mistakes that a human would make. Our problem is not that we don't do enough calculations, but that we make mistakes in our calculations. We are inaccurate, we jump to conclusions, we get excited, or calculate one branch of the tree very deeply while ignoring another one. Those types of things are tough for computers to do.

  4. This must be stopping Duke Nukem Forever by ndavis · · Score: 5, Funny

    This must be the problem facing the team creating Duke Nukem Forever.

    They needed the AI to be dumb enough so you could hear the comments all the time during the game.

    1. Re:This must be stopping Duke Nukem Forever by Em+Emalb · · Score: 4, Funny

      From what I understand, they're trying to model their AI after Forrest Gump but it keeps causing the AI to sit on a park bench and strike up conversations with random people.

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  5. depends on the stupidity by jollyreaper · · Score: 3, Interesting

    What I've always wanted to see is more scripted realism in games. For example, the Medal of Honor games worked much in the same way as a Disney theme ride with certain prescripted actions occuring when you passed by. Run across the field to the house, then the soldiers there will go through a scripted sequence of planning the next move, then they do so. You walk past the far side, a German tank triggers and comes crashing through at you. These are all nice starts. The original Aliens V. Predator game would have the human opponents freak out at random. You tear the head off of someone beside the soldier, he might drop his weapon and run screaming or start spraying the walls at random. And the most unsettling of all were the civilians who would run, cower and cringe away from you, the alien monster.

    All of the above are tricks, not real intelligence but things that provide the illusion of intelligent agents engaging in realistic behavior. Critics will say the heavy scripting ruins the replay value because there's not as much room for variation and surprise but I think that it makes the games more interesting. Unfortunately, not many people go to the effort here.

    I for one would love to see a shooter where I burst in on the room of baddies playing cards and see them fumble for their weapons, someone drops his, etc. It would be very realistic to have an enemy get the drop on you but his gun jams and he's left trying to clear it when you engage. As mentioned before, AVP created a sense of realism when the humans freaked out and started firing randomly.

    When we get right down to it, players aren't looking to get their asses mercilessly beaten every time they play. Neither do they want a pushover opponent. Gamers want to win but they want to feel like they had to earn it. It's rarer to find gamers who want to push the working for it to masochistic levels but they do exist. They would be typified by Rogue fans. For those who don't know, Rogue is a dungeon crawler where you really should save your game except you can't except as a bookmark -- you can save it to come back later but if you die the previous save point is deliberately deleted. You have to beat the game in one go through.

    The only other game I've encountered that masochistic is Escape Velocity Nova, a space exploration and trading game with a realism mode. You die in the game, you die for keeps, you have to start over. To its credit, it does offer a vastly different play style. For example, you want to hit a big pirate ship for max profits, you pick a world near where they spawn and land. Each time you launch local space reloads and a pirate might respawn nearby. You have maybe a one in ten chance of taking him as a lowly player but it's fun. You keep reloading and rolling the dice until you win and you get a nice haul. If you play it in hardcore mode, you have a vastly different approach to this sort of thing. For starters, you lose your ship and it's gone, you have to buy a new one. If you lose your escape pod, you're dead. You will take a vastly different approach tackling a monster like that when you risk losing hours of progress. This seems too much like work to me but some people love it. I think they're the same ones drawn to high-risk PVP games like EVE Online. I think it's a form of gambling addiction, the risk of possibly losing a lot of stuff and the thrill of making it through.

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    1. Re:depends on the stupidity by skorch · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Sorry, but as you say I must almost completely disagree with your sentiment on scripted events in games. Scripted events are not good example of AI because there is no decision making, which makes them predictable and exploitable. So the only way to scale difficulty in a scripted scenario is to just pump up the AI's accuracy, damage, and health, which are not very interesting. Scripted events work fine for fairly linear narratives and setting up big cinematic set-pieces, but they don't make for interesting gameplay (mind you I did not say they don't make for "fun" gameplay).

      The events you describe in AvP are not necessarily examples of scripted scenarios, but sound more like a scripted set of responses to stimuli the player provides (would the AI react differently if you didn't rip off a soldier's head?). The trick for interesting yet realistic decision making is to allow the AI a range of responses that it can make, and then every time you present the same scenario to the computer you may get a different response. So when the AI is actually making decisions, rather than just following a pre-scripted path, this allows the player to make actual decisions in response, rather than just following their own memorized trial-and-error derived path to success.

      The key to a good scaling AI doesn't have to be that tricky, it can just be a matter of what range of choices you allow any given AI to make and what sorts of "mistakes" you throw in that pool of choices.

      When I face "easy" opponents in an FPS, I want them to use simple tactics (not just be unable to hit the broadside of a barn) like charging forwards blindly, or getting scared easily and retreating or even panicking, and being easily suppressed by heavy fire. When I face more advanced opponents, I want the range of their choices to move up the tactical scale to include flanking maneuvers, suppression fire, use of cover, and tactical retreats. A good mistake for an advanced AI would be to assume you're in the wrong position if you duck out of view and to attack that wrong position vigorously (as opposed to the omniscience a lot of AI's seem to have). They don't have to be any more accurate or need any more bullets to kill than an easy bot, but at least they could present more of a real challenge without artificially increasing their stats. Granted this is harder to do and would require actual programming rather than just increasing a few numbers, but that's the price for good AI in your game.

  6. No human would ever make them... by hal2814 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Oh, the humanity! Football games drive me nuts when the AI does stupid things no real person would ever do. Why the hell did my fullback just brush by the linebacker that's right in my RB's way?! Why can't I get my linebacker to stay in his lane on running plays?!

    I'd love to see the difference in difficulty in Madden being the difference between playing a Jerry Glanville-coached team vs a Tom Landry-coached team. Instead, all increasing the difficulty does is make your opponents more talented but no smarter. Even on the highest difficulty, FBs don't understand their blocking assignments.

    1. Re:No human would ever make them... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Funny

      I never thought that I'd have to make the following proclamation... I don't follow your technical jargon.

    2. Re:No human would ever make them... by hal2814 · · Score: 3, Interesting

      A fullback's running assignment is one of the most conceptually easy AIs to write. Run in front of the RB and knock as many people down as possible before they get to the RB (or until the RB passes you). If they can make a reasonably sane QB AI, they should have no problem with a decent FB.

      As far as monopoly, the Madden fullback AI was a Rhodes Scholar compared to the fullback logic in the 2K games. At least the Madden FB doesn't go running off to the other side of the field based on how the D is stacked. And don't get me started on NCAA 2K2's misuse of the word "flex." Flex is not a damn blitz! Flex LBs are supposed to sit back and plug holes, not free-for-all the QB. And that's coming from someone who preferred the 2k series.

    3. Re:No human would ever make them... by rickb928 · · Score: 5, Funny

      "Oh, the humanity! Football games drive me nuts when the AI does stupid things no real person would ever do. Why the hell did my fullback just brush by the linebacker that's right in my RB's way?! Why can't I get my linebacker to stay in his lane on running plays?!"

      Gee, you sound like a real life coach. Certainly like my High School coach.

      I'm thinking the AI is working like it should here. You got your disgruntled, not getting paid enough FB who isn't taking the hit, and your linebacker who thinks he's smarter then your Defensive Coordinator and is freelancing with visions of stardom in his head.

      Realistic this is, I think. Patience, padiwan. Trade you must. Draft you will. Beware of anger.

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  7. Re:So stupid no human would do that? by hey! · · Score: 5, Funny

    Hmmm. Possibly this is a sign that TFA was written by an AI agent. Asserting that there are mistakes that are too stupid for for any human to make is a mistake that is too stupid for any human to make.

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  8. AI leaps and bounds? by Gizzmonic · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Year after year, I read these kind of articles that report how game AI increases in leaps and bounds...and I still don't see it. Bad guys in GTA still seem to rush towards grenades, Halo/Gears of War enemies are either completely impulsive or avoidant. I'm not knocking the programmers...I think game AI must be very difficult to achieve, and even harder to detect for the layman (such as myself).

    Does anyone have an example of really good AI in action games (or any non-RPG, non-RTS games)?

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    1. Re:AI leaps and bounds? by Sj0 · · Score: 3, Interesting

      The Half-life series has always been acclaimed for the AI.

      I found Left 4 dead had excellent AI. The zombies rarely did things that didn't make sense, the only thing I can think of is when they climbed up on objects they didn't need to climb over.

      It's not enemy AI, but Alyx from HL2 was pretty impressive. The zombies rarely did something stupid, but Alyx never did anything stupid. I'm sure I'm not the only one who formed a weird bond with the character by the end of Ep. 2

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    2. Re:AI leaps and bounds? by Jim+Hall · · Score: 3, Interesting

      Does anyone have an example of really good AI in action games (or any non-RPG, non-RTS games)?

      The AI in the first Half-Life was pretty good, I thought. Especially for the era. There were AI creatures that, once they saw you, would run to the rest of their group so they could attack in greater numbers. IIRC, other AI would behave a certain way (i.e. aggressive) until their health dropped too low, then would act in another way (i.e. defensive, even retreating.) It was very believable with the non-human creatures (the sonic dog-things) and not too bad with the enemy soldiers. I think the soldiers had certain logic, where if they had a reasonably good shot at you, they took it - otherwise, they'd reposition to get a better angle. Net effect: in certain areas, you'd have two soldiers laying down "covering fire" while two others ran around the corner to flank you. I was surprised by that the first few times it happened; very decent AI.

      I'm re-playing Killzone 2 right now. The first play-through, I thought the AI wasn't too bad. The second time through, I realized that the AI had a different behavior when you were more than a certain distance away vs. closer. So on my second time through the game, I ran up to a lot of Helghast and used the knife on them (there's a trophy for that, anyway.) If you can get close enough without taking too much damage, it's easy because the AI takes about half a second to switch to the other "mode", during which time it has stopped shooting. That's the opportunity to strike. (Yes, this kind of kills re-play value.)

    3. Re:AI leaps and bounds? by Jim+Hall · · Score: 3, Interesting

      Does anyone have an example of really good AI in action games (or any non-RPG, non-RTS games)?

      I really liked the AI in the Thief 1 & 2 games (never played Thief 3.) Very believable, added a certain dimension to the game.

      Guards would sort of tool around the place, doing their rounds. If you hadn't been discovered, they were not very attentive (you might believe they were just bored with the routine.) If they heard you make a noise, they entered a higher level of alertness, became more suspicious. Their posture would change as they snooped around, looking for what caused the noise. You had to be really well-hidden for them not to find you. If you made any more noise, they went towards that. Make a lot of noise, or show yourself, and they entered full-alert and came charging. You were pretty much screwed if you found yourself trapped in a semi-dark corner on marble tile when guards were around.

      If a suspicious guard didn't find anything, then he would (after a long while) go back to the lower alert level, and just go about his day. But I don't remember that guards, once they actually saw you, ever went back to just doing a normal, unaware patrol.

      (Did suspicious guards "infect" nearby guards, causing them to become suspicious for a certain time? Maybe someone here will remember.)

      Guards alsowent into higher alert automatically if they came across an unconscious body. So you always had to be careful about stashing the body(ies) when you coshed someone.

      It would have been much better if guards responded to torches going out, or moss suddenly appearing in a room, or an arrow sticking out of a post, or a door left open. Even a simple acknowledgment "hmm, I thought that torch was lit before... must have gone out" would have been more realistic.

      But generally, I thought the AI in Thief was pretty well done.

  9. Re:Believable AI by haystor · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Fritz has a sparring mode which does a little better than that. It will find a route that sets up a position where the player can force a win of a piece or a pawn. Essentially it sets up a tactical middle game puzzle live in the middle of a game.

    The player doesn't know when it will do this or even if it will happen at all. But it is most likely to happen when the player puts the computer under pressure. This is great because it teaches the player to press the computer and coordinate pieces while also constantly keeping an eye out for the wins.

    The whole chessmaster series features near-perfect play alternating with just flat out dropping pieces.

    Even with Fritz though, "easy" mode is still well above beginner.

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  10. This should be almost impossible. by Genrou · · Score: 4, Funny

    If it is so difficult to raise the computers to the level of human intelligence, it is probably impossible to reach the level of human stupidity.

  11. it's about the cpu-time by rillopy · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Unfortunately, the AI generally only gets a tiny slice of the CPU time. If it were to use as much as the graphics, etc, then sure: the extra processing required to make the AI believably stupid would be easy. The innovations are there, it's just they are too slow or processor intensive to be implemented in most games.

  12. No Human? by chrispycreeme · · Score: 5, Funny

    The problem with this approach is that it decreases the realism of the AI player. When you reduce the amount of computation, the AI will begin to make incredibly stupid mistakes -- mistakes that are so stupid, no human would ever make them.

    The author has obviously never played chess with me.

  13. Limited attention and experience by AlpineR · · Score: 4, Interesting

    My first rule of game AI is that the computer should have access to the same information and controls as a human player. I hate games where the computer knows about your units and buildings that it hasn't scouted.

    The big advantage that computers have is that they can micromanage every unit with 100% efficiency. One way to reduce skill could be to limit the amount of attention the computer can spend, maybe in the form of "actions per minute". For a game like poker that could be a limit on how precisely the computer player calculates odds. A more experienced human player has a better feel for the game, so a more skillful computer player could dig deeper into the nooks and crannies of probability.

    A way that computers often act too stupid is not accounting for how their interactions with one player will influence other players who aren't directly involved. For example, in a three-way game the computer player might throw everything against the strongest player, weakening them both and letting the third player win. Humans have millions of years of instincts for dealing with such situations. So the game AI might need to precompute some game theory and adapt to opponent reactions over a series of many games. Then it could be dumbed down by reducing its use of that experience and acting more like a newbie human player.

  14. Competing goals by olclops · · Score: 5, Interesting

    If you want an AI to make human like mistakes, you have to have at least a roughly human cognitive model. The simplest way to do this, it seems to me, is to give the AI competing goals. Rather than just have the AI "try to win", and then cripple its ability to do that effectively, you could give it multiple goals to strive toward, and then give it some degree of randomness in which goal it chooses to pursue. Victory vs. pain-avoidance, attack vs. finding time to recover, etc.

    1. Re:Competing goals by tnk1 · · Score: 4, Insightful

      I agree with this totally. One of the bigger reasons some players fail at a game is that they aren't actually playing the same game as everyone else.

      What I mean is illustrated by some post I read once where some jerk, who was also a rather good player, laid it out bare:

      Many people don't play the game. They invent their own little rules for what is "fair" or "better" or "morally right". This handicaps them. You win by playing the game and using all of your abilities and all of your assets to do so, no matter how "cheap" or "skill-less" they seem to you.

      If the game makes it so that some skill does more damage for less effort, but you prefer to use another skill because it seems "cool" to you, or you liked the animation or whatever, you deserve to lose.

      The one thing that this illustrates is that a computer also tends to have clarity of purpose. They are programmed to kill you. That is what they do. They aren't there to smirk or taunt you (unless that's in the script). They will not dance around or try and add finesse to their moves to look cool. They use the most efficient moves or actions to kill you. Or, sometimes, they only get a certain set of moves, but they are scripted to execute them in a certain manner.

      So, basically, by giving your NPCs a "personality" where their goals aren't to strictly kill you with Terminator-like focus, but perhaps to simply make you look bad, or use some moves that *they* think are cool, which really aren't all that useful, you can make them a bit more "human".

      The problem with most mobs is that you already know their motivation, so knowing what they will do next is actually rather easy to figure out. So, if you "cheat" with their AI, it becomes apparent to players that you either buffed or nerfed them artificially.

      If your mobs act in a manner where they are believably foolish, its a lot easier to handicap them and have a player believe that the handicapping is their lack of "skill", rather than you simply giving them less hit points or some absurd lack of resistance to one damage-type.

  15. Re:So stupid no human would do that? by cparker15 · · Score: 4, Funny

    Asserting that there are mistakes that are too stupid for for any human to make is a mistake that is too stupid for any human to make.

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  16. Stupidity is a component of intelligent behavior. by hey! · · Score: 5, Insightful

    And vice versa.

    One thing that is stupid: trying the same things that failed in the past.

    This is a component of smart behaviors as well. If you don't know what to do, try something and watch very carefully how it fails. If you are in a desperate situation and you are going to definitely fail through inaction, then try an action which failed in the past and hope you get lucky. Or vice versa, when the action that usually works looks like its going to fail, try doing nothing.

    Animals freezing in the face of danger is an example of this. It's not much of a defense, but you might get lucky. Maybe the prey a couple animals down the line will get itchy and draw the predator's attention.

    On the other hand, smart behavior can be a component of stupidity. If the red button gets you a treat 80% of the time and the green one gets you a treat 20% of the time, the intelligently stupid thing is to push the red button 100% of the time. The stupidly intelligent thing is to try to work out the pattern of red/green rewards.

    If you want realistic model of stupidity, provide the NPCs with a range of decision making strategies, all of which work to some degree, but the better of which take more effort (computation). The NPC can choose between the strategies with a random function weighted towards the better strategies, but as time and "stress" come into play the function can shift towards the easy but less effective strategies.

    That's a pretty good model of human performance "choking".

    Evolution did not produce human stupidity because it was useless, after all.

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  17. Re:Deep Blue by Evanisincontrol · · Score: 5, Interesting
    This has been mentioned before, but I think it's worth bringing up that Kasparov wasn't facing Deep Blue under fair conditions. Even ignoring accusations of cheating and whatnot, there's two very important facts to consider:
    • Normally when a grandmaster plays in a chess tournament, they are givens months of advance warning. The grandmaster will study hundreds of game transcripts, studying their opponent's style and looking for weaknesses. (The opponent will also be given the grandmaster's game transcripts). Deep blue was given Kasparov's transcripts, but Kasparov was given nothing.
    • IBM modified Deep Blue after Kasparov won his first match. This meant that, after finally learning how Deep Blue played (on the fly!), Kasparov basically had to play a brand new opponent.

    If this were a karate match, this would be the equivalent of the master having to fight someone he's never met before, but that person has studied the master's every move. Then, after the master wins the fight, he has to fight someone else who has studied his every move and acts differently. Not a fair fight.

  18. F.E.A.R. by A.+B3ttik · · Score: 4, Insightful

    F.E.A.R. is the only game to date that I've played and honestly felt like I was playing against human opponents. Honestly, they were as smart as or even smarter than playing against people online.

    They did this through heavy use of waypoints and scripted events. If that's what you have to do to make it realistic, then by all means, do it.

  19. NP-tard? by illegalcortex · · Score: 5, Funny

    Do we have programmers that are smart enough to program stupidity algorithms to be smart enough to be as stupid as humans?

  20. Here's what I'd like by vadim_t · · Score: 5, Insightful

    A computer that plays on equal terms.

    AIs often win in some games not by the virtue of being smarter, but by having an unfair advantage. Examples:

    • In RTSes, constant money injections. This pretty much nullifies attempts to attack resource collection -- they don't need it anyway.
    • Knowledge of the position of everything. In RTSes, they don't need to discover your position. It's useless to try to build an outpost and hide the real base somewhere behind it. In FPSes they know where you are, and can tell when you're sneaking from behind
    • Instant reaction time and all-encompassing awareness. In RTSes, the AI is capable of controlling every unit at once, and knows what's going on in the whole map at once. Meanwhile, the players are limited in the speed they can give orders, and only has a view of part of the world. Due to this, the AI can't be fooled by multiple attacks from different places, it will see all of them perfectly.

    My suggestion: An AI should be coded as a bot, within the constraints given to the player. If the player can only see a part of the battlefield (like in Starcraft) then the AI should have the same limit and need adjust its own viewport to gain awareness of an area. It should also be limited by the fog of war, and lack the ability to see out of the back of its head. To put in another way, a fair Starcraft AI would be one implemented with a camera pointed at the screen, controlling only the keyboard and mouse inputs.

    The idea is that I want to be beaten because the AI is indeed smarter, not because it's got a superior access to the battlefield I can never gain.

    Chess probably comes closest to the sort of thing I want -- the AI and human are fighting on very equal terms. I don't see the calculating millions of positions a second as a problem, that's simply an implementation detail.

  21. Re:Deep Blue by Evanisincontrol · · Score: 5, Informative

    Why did Kasparov agree to compete under those circumstances? Did IBM pull something nasty on him at the last second or did he just want to play Deep Blue badly enough that he agreed anyway?

    Well, I don't know Kasparov and I'm not a history expert, but I'm willing to bet that because he beat Deep Blue in 1996, he just figured he could do it again with no problem. He probably underestimated how much Deep Blue had improved, but that's just my speculation.

    I don't know Kasparov's motivations for playing Deep Blue at all, honestly. Beating Deep Blue wouldn't have won him any fame ("Oh look, he beat a computer. Computers suck at chess anyway."), but losing would look bad for him. He had nothing to gain and plenty to lose. I know after he lost the match, he demanded a rematch, but IBM refused and put Deep Blue out of commission. IBM had nothing to gain by beating Kasparov again, and their stocks had already started going up when the news got out that they had beaten the grandmaster (to their great pleasure, history did indeed forget the shady details I mentioned before, just as they hoped).

  22. Re:Deep Blue by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

    At the time that Deep Blue was being used, there was more of a focus on brute force search than tricky AI game play. Deep blue searched an average of 130 million nodes a second using a iterative-deepening alpaha-beta search, sometimes able to look 40 moves ahead. IBM declined a rematch after that game, but thanks to improvements in AI, a standard desktop PC running improved search algorithms is now a suitable match for even a grandmaster.

    Deep blue also contained an 'opening book' of 4000 positions and 700,000 grandmaster games indexed.

    Source: Artificial Intelligence A Modern Approach: Russell, Norwig

  23. Impatience by Xocet_00 · · Score: 3, Interesting

    It's interesting that they say this actually. I'm a terrible chess player not because I don't 'get' the game, but because I'm not very patient. So I tend to do fairly well playing speed chess, but doing very, very poorly in a normal game. I tend to just get tired of evaluating the possible moves after a while and just make whatever one was the most promising out of the few that I did think about.

    Isn't that sort of the same thing as limiting the number of calculations? In this case limiting the calculations would replicate the stupid moves that I (as a human/meat popsicle) would make, assuming that the order in which the computer evaluated possible moves was decided using more or less the same set or priorities that I would use (which are also probably stupid).

    So the trick to coming up with a "realistic" AI opponent for chess might be more about figuring out how a human surveys the board and in what order they evaluate the moves. You can replicate the behaviour of dumb humans (like me) just by cutting off the evaluation at some very early point and scale up the difficulty by extending it.

  24. Gran Turismo 2 had this by rapiddescent · · Score: 3, Interesting
    back in the day - Gran Turismo (the popular playstation driving game) used to have AI cars that would make driving errors such as braking too late into corners or oversteering and spinning out onto the grass.

    It used to have hilarious consequences as AI cars behind the spinning-out-of-control AI car would crash into it, deflecting and causing a complete pile up.

    This gameplay felt realistic because this is what happens when cars are travelling at high speed in close formation.

    Newer versions of Gran Turismo on the Playstation 3 - have way more computation cycles and so the AI cars now drive a whole lot better and never seem to crash. Sure they take different lines into corners and so on - but they don't completely bollox it up like the human drivers often do. It has made the game pretty infuriating because it has taken a randomness factor out of the game.

  25. Re:Deep Blue by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Interesting

    i'm not involved into any of these activities, but i know Kasparov as a great mind and chess player because big blue won against him.
    and thats probably what the history will remind us.
    Eventually, a human would have been beaten anyway.

  26. Re:Deep Blue by Swizec · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Kasparov had immortality to gain. In fact I'm fairly certain most people today remember him only as The First Person To Lose Against A Computer In Chess and have no idea who deep blue is.

  27. Re:Deep Blue by stranger_to_himself · · Score: 4, Funny

    Kasparov had immortality to gain. In fact I'm fairly certain most people today remember him only as The First Person To Lose Against A Computer In Chess and have no idea who deep blue is.

    What! I was losing against my Sinclair Spectrum +2 as long ago as 1987.

  28. Re:Money by fooslacker · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Why is this debasement? Playing against a machine even in unfair settings is still a challenge. The goal isn't to pick only fights you can win but to test yourself and do something new and experience something new.

    As for it being "unfair" it wasn't touted as fair it was a computer v grandmaster experiment not a ranking test.

    The only shady part in my opinion is the refusal for a rematch. If the man is willing to play on uneven ground and give his time (even if paid) to your stunt then you should have the courtesy to let him challenge/redeem himself.

  29. Re:Deep Blue by josh61980 · · Score: 5, Interesting

    I read about in college. Kasparov did ask for the transcripts. However the Big Blue team told him no. Basically saying it would give Kasparov an unfair advantage because he could study Big Blue's moves and deconstruct the algorithm it used.

  30. Re:Deep Blue by Lord+Ender · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Many people in the tech world only know Kasparov's name because of his battle with Deep Blue. His name will likely be in history books for this reason. I would say he did indeed have something to gain by competing with the machine.

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  31. Truly realistic by gurps_npc · · Score: 3, Interesting
    The author's unspoken assumption is that it is impossible to have them make mistakes the way humans do.

    Take poker for example. We have a standard bias of "unknown = 50%". This actually works pretty well for cases where information is not known. To make the winning software programs, they basically program in the rules that a human expert knows to be true. It is NOT that hard to instead program in a bunch of rules that a human FOOL 'knows' to be true. Just find some bad poker players and ask them what they do in certain circumstances.

    -------------- Similarly, the pool game could be made more realistic. I noticed the first thing he did was have the computer select the highest possible point scorign shot, ignoring banking a shot unless it is set to super-expert. That is NOT what humans do. Bad pool players pick the EASIEST shot - i.e. the one that is most straight on and least distance. (I know, I am a bad pool player). As you get better, you raise your standards about what you think you can hit. So a moderate player looks among all the shots he thinks he can hit and takes the highest point one of that.

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  32. Re:Deep Blue by Kell+Bengal · · Score: 3, Insightful

    You make a valid point. In 100 years, will people remember the name of a particular human chess player from year X? Maybe. In 100 years, everyone involved in AI and computer history will remember deep blue and Kasparov. By 'losing' he has written himself into history.

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  33. Re:Believable AI by nine-times · · Score: 3, Interesting

    As far as Thief goes, you have to admit at least that it was very good for the time. Making it hard to win in a fair fight made sense for the game, especially since it was one of the first sneaker games, and they kind of had to smack you over the head to let you know that you weren't supposed to run-and-gun through the game. If you didn't want to sneak, then you simply picked the wrong game.

    Also, I was remembering Thief as a game that rightly didn't follow the "once your cover is broken, it's broken" thing. It was more like, if they saw you, you couldn't simply run into the nearest shadow and be safe. You had to evade them first, sufficiently that they wouldn't particularly know where you were, and then hide in the shadow. The effect wasn't perfect, but certainly you could get back into hiding after being discovered without killing the person who saw you.

    I don't know what I'd think of Thief if I played it now, but at the time, it did seem to be some of the most interesting AI in a FPS, if only for how limited the enemies' knowledge was.