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How To Get High-Schoolers Involved In Real Science?

Wellington Grey writes "I'm a physics teacher and have been wondering what ways it's possible to get students to participate in or donate to real science projects. I encourage my students to help out with things like Galaxy Zoo (which has just released a new version) and to get them to install BOINC on their personal computers. Do Slashdotters out there have any other suggestions that would be appropriate for the 11-18 age range? Extra credit if you can think of a way that I can track their progress so that I can give them extra credit."

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  1. Ask Thomas Dolby by AKAImBatman · · Score: 3, Funny

    I think the answer has something to do with a Poser model, a government mainframe, and a freak electrical storm...

  2. Ask Slashdot by biocute · · Score: 5, Funny

    "I'm a high school student and my physics teacher always comes up with ideas to get us to participate in or donate to real science projects. He even encourages us to help out with things like Galaxy Zoo (which has just released a new version, grrrr, dreadful updates again) and even gets us to install BOINC on our PERSONAL computers. Do Slashdotters out there have any suggestions that would be appropriate to satisfy this 35-year-old physics teacher? Extra credit if you can think of a way that I can fake my progress so that I can get extra credit."

    1. Re:Ask Slashdot by Microwave_Safe_Bowl · · Score: 3, Informative

      There is a group called The INSPIRE Project (http://www.theinspireproject.org) that, among other things, makes kits specifically for high school students that enables them to listen to atmospheric phenomena. The kits, actually called VLF Receiver Kits, can be ordered either assembled or not yet assembled. If the kids are to be the ones to put the kits together, you have just tricked them into performing some very basic electrical engineering in addition to learning about what goes on in the Earth's atmosphere. As a board member of INSPIRE, feel free to email the site with any questions, and spread the word!

    2. Re:Ask Slashdot by martin-boundary · · Score: 4, Funny
      Dear HIGHSCHOOL STUDENT Sir/Madam,

      I am Mbutu Kiko Kiko, a 35 year old physics teacher. My lab director has recently organized a coup against the theoretical physics junta, and I need your ATM MACHINE CARD to protect $8,500,000 worth of funds converted in small pens and spiral notebooks...

  3. Slashdot says by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Take pictures of space!

    http://science.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=09/03/18/1645216

    1. Re:Slashdot says by NeutronCowboy · · Score: 2, Insightful

      While this is modded funny and comes from an AC, I'd seriously put this out there as an option.

      Here's why:
      1) It's cheap.
      2) It requires little time.
      3) It requires little handywork - no time spent soldering minuscule circuitry or machining micrometer spec aluminum.
      4) It's results are almost immediate.
      5) It produces very cool data.
      6) It touches a lot of different areas: atmospheric physics, electronics, photography, telemetry. All of which can be understood by anybody who's been outside and played with some electronics and software.

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  4. Ionospheric propagation by wowbagger · · Score: 3, Informative

    You could have them monitor HF propagation beacons to track the effects of the new sunspot Solar Cycle on the ionosphere.

    You could have them do balloon launches.

  5. We need more by hypergreatthing · · Score: 5, Funny

    Kelly LeBrock.

  6. Try successful cases by casals · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Have you tried to show them successful stories like this one? High schoolers are more prone to do something that a) has good chances to success and b) has very good chances to make them look good. Show them enough successful projects like "hey, how cool is that, uh?", and you probably will be able to gather even the not-that-geeks.

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  7. Wait, what? by Reality+Master+101 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    You want to get students interested in "real science", then as your examples you cite some computer programs? And they learn what from this?

    When I was in school, the best science was *always* some sort of physical demonstration. I still remember being in physics class where we calculated the speed that a ball ought to go down a ramp, fly through the air and hit a spot on some paper. I marked an "X", and sure enough, the ball landed on the X (within experimental error).

    I also remember being fascinated at my local science museum at a big box with pegs and a bell curve painted on the glass. Every few minutes balls would fall randomly through the pegs, yet fall into the bell curve. [of course, in recent years they got rid of all the cool stuff in favor of "corporate demonstrations" that totally suck, but that's another subject]

    Then there were the chemistry experiments... and field trips to the park... you get the idea.

    Make science real by making it something physical that students can see/touch/smell.

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    1. Re:Wait, what? by Reality+Master+101 · · Score: 3, Informative

      Oops, I misread his question. I thought he was asking for how to get students interested in science, when he was asking how to get students involved in *helping* science, apparently. Never mind.

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    2. Re:Wait, what? by colourmyeyes · · Score: 2, Interesting

      My physics teacher (who was awesome) did an experiment where we hung a bowling ball from the ceiling, then he sat in a chair, pulled the bowling ball back to his face, and let it go. This was to prove that as it swung, the ball lost energy and would not hit him in the nose when it swung back. We videotaped it and though the bowling ball obeyed the laws of physics and did not hit him, the look on his face was priceless.

      Anyway, I think the computer-related stuff is alright, but I agree that physical stuff has more impact and will stick in their feeble young minds longer.

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    3. Re:Wait, what? by snl2587 · · Score: 2, Funny

      When I was in school my physics teacher did the same thing, but he made the mistake of pushing the ball a little.

      I heard the next year he used a chair to make the demonstration instead.

    4. Re:Wait, what? by Facetious · · Score: 2, Interesting

      One of the best physics demonstrations is to hang a block of wood from a string and shoot it with a .22, then measure how far the block swings. Sadly, this can't be done in schools anymore.

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    5. Re:Wait, what? by Kell+Bengal · · Score: 4, Funny

      Easy - just borrow a piece from one of the students.

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    6. Re:Wait, what? by MillionthMonkey · · Score: 2, Funny

      No problem. If you can't fire a gun at a block of wood, then get one of the students to stand on a skateboard so you can just shoot him instead.

    7. Re:Wait, what? by EEBaum · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Then there's the other end of the spectrum. Check out some of the old-guard museums in Europe some time. Newer ones have friendlier exhibits, but some of them are WAY hardcore, or at least they were not too long ago. In the mid 90s I was in Vienna at the ripe old age of 12. We went to a big fancy museum (I want to say the National Museum, or it could have been Natural History... I don't recall, I was 12). They had some newer exhibits that they tended to usher people towards, which I recall having perusal-friendly displays. Then they had enormous rooms where just things were on display, labeled. Like minerals. Big room, probably 10,000 square feet (maybe overestimating... 12 years old, remember), with nothing but individually labeled minerals. Not what they're for, not where they're found, just minerals and their names. That's... interesting... I guess... if you're into that. What's in the next room? ANOTHER big room, probably 10,000 square feet, with nothing but individually labeled minerals. I want to say there was a third, but my memory is hazy. Similar rooms existed for other things too, IIRC.

      Hardcore.

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    8. Re:Wait, what? by cptdondo · · Score: 2, Funny

      And that, my friends, is what the OP asked for.

      "How do you get a high schooler interested in science?"

      I present to you the butt experiment.

    9. Re:Wait, what? by jank1887 · · Score: 2, Interesting

      As an engineer, I can selfishly say that at that age you don't was to teach them science, you want to teach them engineering. You want them to take a small piece of science and do something physical and visual. Something they can touch. something they can make or change, and then see how they're changes affect it. But the key difference between that and a lab exercise, is that you have to let them play.

      Another suggestion, let them make things. I recommend checking out something like RepRap. For $500 have the kids build a rapid prototyping machine, let them make parts, try different build materials, show them how it ticks. Here's a 1-page description of the RepRap concept (fully GPL i believe) http://reprap.org/pub/Main/WebHome/one-page.pdf Another similar project is Fab@Home, but that will run you $2-3000.

    10. Re:Wait, what? by cheesewire · · Score: 2, Informative

      Heck yes.
      The year I began my A-levels coincided with the schools introduction of a new "practical physics" syllabus. That alone led to many more people choosing to study the subject.

      So we embarked on something of an adventure involving high velocity projectiles, lasers, electronics, some minor explosions and fire. We were presented problems to solve and/or relatively open-ended projects. We made things, learned the physics, encountered real-world problems, learned more physics, solved the problems and then worked out what our results meant and why. It was a learning experience for the teachers too that 1st year - there was definite surprise when our brief to build the best elasticity driven marble launcher possible led to the results achieved.

      The end result was that not only did we learn a lot, but we enjoyed it. Plus the uptake of physics rose *dramatically*. A far cry from seeing previous 4-strong A-level class constantly working from a gargantuan tome. Funnily enough the teachers said they liked things better the new way too.

  8. Prepared May Be Better than Involved by LeafOnTheWind · · Score: 4, Informative

    When I was in high school in my chem AP class, my teacher had set it up so that at the end of the year we all had to read a timely chemistry research paper that had been published in a major journal and prepare a presentation on it for the class. This may not be what you want to hear but from what I remember of my chem. AP curriculum, I was grossly underprepared to do any serious research. However, I definitely remember than dealing with both a research subject and the academic publishing style gave a lot of background for my future.

    That said, I'm computer science not chemistry, so I guess I don't know how that would have turned out in the long run. Even though I'm not chem, I know that the experience in reading real research papers definitely prepared me for graduate and research coursework in college more than anything else in my time in high school.

    That said, my minor is physics, so I do know a little bit about that as well. If you've done electromagnetism/electronics, I would encourage maybe giving your students an electronics project. It was nice to have a little practical lab after all that theory. An infinite field of one ohm resisters is one thing - rewiring your coffee maker with a job server is another (btw if any of your students actually manage to do this, send me an email). That said, many of your students (I was one) may really like theory and Maxwell's equations and vector calculus, so don't make the course too EE based.

  9. Am I the only one who read the title like by szo · · Score: 2, Funny

    How To Get High - Schoolers Involved In Real Science?

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  10. Gee.. How long have you been a physics teacher? by ewenix · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I know I've been out of school for a while, but I believe what you're looking for is called a SCIENCE FAIR.

    1. Re:Gee.. How long have you been a physics teacher? by slapout · · Score: 3, Interesting

      Nope. When I was in school, I liked science, but most kids hated doing science fair projects. I wanted to do projects that were interesting, like show how something worked. But the school imposed the rule that every project had to be based on the idea of answering some question.

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    2. Re:Gee.. How long have you been a physics teacher? by geekoid · · Score: 3, Informative

      That just means you didn't like the rules for that science fair.

      Besides your answers the question:"hey, how does this work?"~

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    3. Re:Gee.. How long have you been a physics teacher? by apoc.famine · · Score: 2, Informative

      DING! You win the prize!
       
      As a science teacher, I can confirm this. 99% of students lack the background knowledge to do a minimal experiment, and lack the ambition to obtain that knowledge on their own. We patrol our (mandated, although we're not allowed to spend any major amount of time on it, due to our standardized state test content guidelines) Science Fair and look for the "least worst" projects to send to the state science fair. It's rare that we send a great project. Mostly, we aim for "doesn't suck too much, and won't completely embarrass the school".
       
      For me to get students involved in real science, I'd need 3 things:
       
      1) Freedom from "teaching to the test".
      2) Money.
      3) The ability for uninterested students to do something else.
       
      At the moment, my school lacks the balls for #1, the tax base for #2, and is hogtied by the phrase "free and equal education" in regards to #3.

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    4. Re:Gee.. How long have you been a physics teacher? by Henry+Pate · · Score: 2, Interesting

      When I was in school you had to choose a question as well (circa 2000). My friend and I did a project on whether it would be possible to create a Connect 4 program that was unbeatable. Turns out it is possible but I over-estimated my coding abilities and looking back on it now it was horribly written software but I did learn about hash tables, minimax, alpha-beta pruning and a bunch of other stuff I might never have looked at.

      We made it to State science fair and then International Science fair out in California. The County paid for the entry fee and my amazing Biology teacher who had a doctorate in Genetics and encouraged us all the way paid for our plane tickets with her frequent flier miles (I think she went into teaching because she loved it). My parents only had to cover partial hotel costs and food costs. I was in the IB program and the Science fair happened to be at the same time as IB testing so I was forced to take two IB tests in between rounds of judging and it didn't go so well.

      Sinbad was the host of the science fair and even did about 45 minutes of stand-up, it was God awful. I met a lot of really smart people, one kid made a glove that translated sign language to text. We brought large chess boards and clocks to challenge people to speed games, it was a lot of fun. My senior year I had learned a lot more and did a much better project but the County wouldn't pay the entry fees for us so we only made it to state.

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  11. Great documentary by Chairboy · · Score: 4, Funny

    There's a great documentary on a teacher who faced the same challenges and found innovating ways to overcome them. He needed to give his students some projects that would have real-world results that could be measured. In the end, he helped a classroom of very talented kids construct some world-class devices that made breakthroughs in the areas of lasers, inertial guidance, optics, and more.

    Very inspiration stuff, I highly recommend watching. Professor J. Hathaway should be commended for his innovative approach to this exact situation. More information on the documentary can be found here: http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0089886/

  12. FIRST Robotics by wirelessjb · · Score: 2, Informative

    Form a FIRST robotics team. One of their goals is to get a FIRST team in every high school.

  13. How? by frank_adrian314159 · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Let them blow up stuff. Really. They still may not like science afterward, but they'll have fun and it will weed out the stupid.

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  14. Model Rocketry by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Interesting

    I did a rocketry project one year in physics and found out later that my teacher included it in his curriculum every year thereafter.

  15. There was a program in my high school by nine-times · · Score: 3, Interesting

    When I was in high school, there was some kind of pilot program that I participated in where we helped do actual scientific research.

    Now I have no idea how they set it up or whether our work was ever actually taken seriously by anyone, since I was just a student at the time. I didn't have insight into that sort of thing. But the setup was that the teacher was put in touch with an organization that did research regarding weather patterns. We were given access to collect remote data from various weather stations, and even helped set up a few weather stations ourselves.

    So at the beginning of the year, the organization and the teacher worked out some projects which involved a fair amount of grunt work and not a lot of expertise (i.e. something a group of students might have some hope of doing) but that might possibly be helpful to the organization (at least supposedly). We were given a few options of different questions we might pursue, and then started collecting data under the supervision of the teacher, who I believe was something of a meteorologist to begin with.

    After a semester or year, whichever it was, we tried to pull together everything we'd done all year, analyze the data, and come up with a report to send to this organization, attempting to answer the question they asked us to research.

    Looking back, I would be very surprised if our work was at all useful to anyone. In fact, I have no doubt that the report very quickly found its way into the circular file, though they may have kept some of the data we collected for their own purposes. But at the time, that really didn't matter. It was kind of thrilling anyway.

    I don't think it was thrilling because of the science itself. Weather was far less interesting to me than something like relativity or quantum mechanics. What was thrilling about it was:

    1. We were trying to find an actual answer to a question where no one knew the answer. This wasn't one of those experiments where they have you mix NaOH and HCl and at the end the teacher tells you that the correct answer was "you made salt water". It was something where the teacher himself couldn't say what we were going to find before we started.
    2. It was (theoretically) actually useful research. We weren't just spinning our wheels doing busy work. Most of the time, me and my friends would make a bond fire at the end of each school year and throw all of our papers and homework on it because none of that stuff mattered or meant anything. But with this program, we were given the impression that the report would be stored someplace as real research that might actually be useful to someone at some point.
    1. Re:There was a program in my high school by Bowling+Moses · · Score: 3, Interesting

      I happen to be on the other end of this. The lab I work in participates in a youth apprenticeship program with the local school district, and one of the options for the gifted and talented students that get into the program is biotechnology. For the last year and a half I've had a high school student assisting me (16 hours a week, full time in summer) on some of the research projects I'm working on (I'm a postdoctoral research associate in entomology). Through his lab work and a weekly 4 hour lab course he's learned quite a few skills. Cloning techniques, site-directed mutagenesis, how to do SDS-PAGE and acrylamide gel electrophoresis (non-bio people: put gene of interest into vector and then into bacteria, make specific mutation in gene, separate out proteins and DNA fragments by size), how to make up solutions, sterile technique, a bit of raising insects, and other basic molecular biology techniques. That and of course fill tip boxes and wash and autoclave labware, which is just as fun as it sounds. I try to keep it non-repetitive and introduce new things when he's mastered old, and his doing of more grunt work gives me time to do other things once I'm sure he's okay on his own for a given technique. Not many high school students are capable of operating at the level he's at. However the lab's been doing this for quite a few years now and all of the students leave with at least a good introduction to basic molecular biology techniques and what science is really like: if you only had to do it once it'd be search, not REsearch. I don't think they've ended up as authors on papers as of yet, but they do help keep the lab running. Some have been given mini-projects that have been of backburner project interest level, some of which now are being pursued by graduate students. So yes in the right environment high school students can make a contribution to real research.

  16. Adam Savage's View by Nos. · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Adam Savage (from Mythbusters), wrote an article in Popular Mechanics a few months ago talking about science the US education system.

  17. ONE "WORD" by Jeremiah+Cornelius · · Score: 4, Funny

    Pr0n

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  18. You are teaching them science is boring. Stop it! by tlambert · · Score: 5, Informative

    You are teaching them science is boring. Stop it!

    BOINC is interesting if your machine finds the aliens, and actually told you it did.

    Galaxy Zoo is for when there is no fresh paint to watch dry.

    In my physics classes in high school we DID things, and then we explained the math behind them, and why that was physics. Most interesting physics demonstrations involve statics, harmonic oscillation, analytical mechanics - physical motion - or at least the interesting ones do.

    Sometimes we'd just start the week with letting people ask questions about things that made them curious that might be related to physics.

    Here's a list of projects we did, and which your students could do:

    - build bridges out of balsa wood to demonstrate statics principles and the ability to bear loads (by loading them up until they break)
    - build water balloon catapults and see who throws the balloons farthest
    - build ping-pong ball alcohol canons
    - launch model rockets, preferably with instrument payloads
    - build hover crafts using vacuum cleaner motors and race them down the hallway past the principals office
    - build a Focault's pendulum to demonstrate rotation of the earth
    - put a bowing ball on the end of a rope and show it doesn't smack you in the face because you let it go and it doesn't get energy added to the system on its way back
    - demonstrate the coefficient of sliding friction with a triangle block, a square block with a hile drilled through it, some twine tied through the hole, and a fishing scale
    - build a model roller coaster
    - build a tesla coil and use it to shoot aluminum rings cut from the ends of pipes up in the air
    - build a blower box with an orange traffic cone glued on top and float a ball there to demonstrate Bernoulli's principle
    - dig out the switch/relay/light boxes from the 1960's classes and wire them all together to build an adder
    - use a Van de Graff generator to make people's hair stand out straight from their heads
    - show them a Newton's Cradle execu-toy
    - put grapes in a microwave oven to demonstrate plasmas
    - make little boats with wedges in their backs, stick pieces of soap there, and race them to demonstrate surface tension
    - spin buckets of water without the water falling out
    - shock people with Leyden jars
    - build a Wimshurst generator
    - build a Sterling cycle engine with a bicycle wheel and rubber bands

    And that is just stuff we DID, off the top of my head, 20+ years ago -- stuff I still REMEMBER to this day, in my day job as a SCIENTIST -- because I had a great physics teacher in High School.

    -- Terry

  19. Build pollution detectors by anphilip · · Score: 2, Informative

    GPS chips, arduinos, and sensors that can detect pollution are cheap. http://www.instructables.com/id/How-To-Smell-Pollutants/ Get students to create a mash-up map of their local environmental pollution hotspots by wearing a portable detector around.

  20. Science in the real world is NOT that interesting by petes_PoV · · Score: 4, Funny
    It mostly involves attending meetings to try and get funding for your next year, or your research students (they're the people who actually *do* the work) or that piece of equipment you want/need. To do this you have to sell your case and make it appear better, more cost-effective, likely to bring credit, than all the other scientists who are after the same money and are therefore trying to discredit your proposal.

    When you're not doing that, you are desperately trying to find a new angle on old data to write a paper for publication. You need to do this in order to keep your reputation (and therefore pay and ability to get funding) hot. Once written, you'll spend more time trying to get it published somewhere, or peer-reviewing some other guy's paper.

    Almost never will you get into the lab, and even when you do most of your time will be spent setting up, calibrating, tweaking, debugging and modifying your equipment. The chances of you making a discovery that will be named after you are infinitesimally small, as all the good ones are already taken. Even then, you'll probably be dead before anyone recognises the contribution you have made - or the true value of your work.

    You best bet, if you want your children to become successful scientists, is to teach them how to stay awake in meetings, diss their colleagues while appearing to be friendly, engaging in office politics, learning to recognise who to scmooze and kiss up to and marketing old ideas with a new spin - every year for the rest of their careers.

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  21. Safe science is gay by AliasMarlowe · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Let them use proper explosives, and let them make their own thermites, black powder or napalms. They'll develop an aptitude for chemistry (and perhaps an appreciation of medicine).
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thermite
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gunpowder
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Napalm
    Let them play with a decently-sized ballista, trebuchet, or onager. They'll learn all about dynamics and ballistics, wind resistance, action-reaction (the onager kicks a bit), and the delivery of kinetic energy via projectile.
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ballista
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trebuchet
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Onager_(siege_weapon)
    However, if they combine the explosives with the projectiles, their neighbours will study the law.
    [Yes, I had a dangerously mis-spent childhood, and turned into a chemical engineer]

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    1. Re:Safe science is gay by nitroamos · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Perhaps ironically since now i do computation, what made the most difference in my life as far as getting me interested in science was:

      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Anarchist_Cookbook

      which i could find online. i didn't care about hacking phones or whatever. but i used this to help me understand all the chemicals i could get my hands on at the local drug stores. fortunately, i couldn't hurt myself too much, since where I lived it is illegal to sell nitric acid to people without a license or something. however, i was able to get my hands on or make two highly exciting substances:

      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Calcium_carbide
      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nitrogen_triiodide
      sodium metal

    2. Re:Safe science is gay by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Just because they are explosives doesn't mean that it's unsafe. In high school, our science club went around to the elementary schools to show off different science principles. A lot of them involved explosions and fire. Examples include: blowing up hydrogen gas balloons, exploding paint-can methane candles, showing gas densities by pouring methanol gas down a ramp onto fire, blowing up corn starch, etc. We wouldn't have been able to do all of those if we didn't keep it under control and keep it safe.

      Also, other demonstrations that definitely capture kids' attentions are: bed of nails, breaking cinder blocks with your chest and a sledgehammer, tesla coil in one hand and a fluorescent bulb in another, cornstarch and water goop, playing with dry ice.

    3. Re:Safe science is gay by joh6nn · · Score: 5, Insightful

      i would seriously appreciate it if you could find a different pejorative.

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    4. Re:Safe science is gay by ILuvRamen · · Score: 2, Insightful

      I second that one! I specifically took what I learned in chemistry and did this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jMITFo66qWg and no, the grass still hasn't grown back lol

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    5. Re:Safe science is gay by supernova_hq · · Score: 2, Funny

      We made thermite in physics class and blew up a microwave. Also, we're building a sustainable heating economy for the entire state...

      Just how much thermite did you PUT in that microwave?!?

    6. Re:Safe science is gay by tnk1 · · Score: 2, Interesting

      I'm with you on that one. I find that there is absolutely nothing joyous or happy about safe science.

  22. Incentive to work on Science by TW+Burger · · Score: 2

    Lie to the students and convince them that scientists get huge paychecks, huge bonuses, huge respect, and girl/boy friends with huge (place favorite body part here) just like Wall street traders that destroy World economies or rap/hip hop "artists" that preach (and often preform) misogyny and violence.

    Sadly, science is a road to becoming an underpaid lab rat or high school instructor. I gave up designing computer systems and portable devices to pursue systems analysis and programming. The opportunity, hours, and money are better.

  23. I suggest... by Anenome · · Score: 2

    I suggest: Explosion Club

    First rule of Explosion Club: You do not talk about Explosion Club.

    Second rule of Explosion Club: YOU DO NOT TALK ABOUT EXPLOSION CLUB.

    The last rule of Explosion Club: If it's your first time, you mix the chemicals yourself and will blow something up.

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  24. LHC and Cosmic Rays by Roger+W+Moore · · Score: 2, Interesting

    There is an outreach "master class" scheme involving the LHC where your students can get their hands on data (simulated at the moment but real eventually!). While the tools are simplified compared to what we actually use for an analysis you do get to look at and study real data. You could try talking to CERN to find out if this is available in whatever part of the world you are. We also have a video conference scheme which I've taken part in before where someone from your local university will come and visit and set up a video conference with other people at CERN to discuss the LHC and the physics we do.

    There are also various cosmic ray projects that your school can get involved in. If you are in Alberta then your local one is ALTA which is run by a colleague of mine. There are others in various parts of the world as well. These link together multiple schools in a region to build a large air shower array.

  25. Galazy Zoo has Plans for you! by Pamela_StarStryder · · Score: 2, Informative

    Coming this fall, Galaxy Zoo has plans to add the ability for teachers to create logins for a classroom of students that are linked such that the teacher can see all the students classifications. We are also looking to add more educational content, and to set up an "Educators Zone" for sharing activities and ideas. We still in the building phase. Tell us your ideas and we'll do what we can to make the best ideas real! Learn more here.

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  26. Multimedia Does Wonders by perlith · · Score: 2, Informative

    One of the best Comp. Sci courses I took in college was assembly. Why? The instructor kept it interesting. Try showing Three Stooges video at the beginning of class and then relate it to the lecture. Happened frequently. You want to keep folks interest to a reasonable degree, keep the content fresh and original. Bill Nye, Captain Planet, Daily Show, etc. Try retrojunk.com if you want to pull some old school commercials out of the hat.

  27. Rocketry Usually Works by this_is_art · · Score: 2, Informative

    Get them the model rocketry simulation program Rocksim from appogeerockets.com, or some equivalent. You can then have them build and fly virtual rocket models. If you can get permission for an outdoor lab exercise they can then build and fly their rockets to compare actual versus simulated performance. The good news is that Rocksim supports designs with standard low cost rocketry materials, but can also be used for fairly advanced custom projects. There is even a machine shop that will produce custom laser cut fins from Rocksim design files. I've used them before and was quite pleased, as it was a lot easier than shaping them by hand in my garage. Regards, Art

  28. Put Them In Charge by DynaSoar · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Organize a working lab for them. They are to decide (within your specified field) what they find interesting and want to learn about. An example from my work, someone noted that the doors on the local Walmart had IN and OUT signs, that some people tended to ignore those, and that the IN and OUT were on opposite sides on the opposite ends of the building. They wanted to know why the sides were different, and depending on the answer, seeing if that answer had anything to do with the first.

    Make them responsible for the project by making yourself simply the most knowledgeable member of the lab team. Allow them every source they can think of, including any other teachers or yourself, because when people do real science they're not restricted to the one authority supervising them.

    When they pick what to study, help them develop the methodology/design. Describe why you chose one in terms they can understand.

    Set them collecting their data, tell them how best to analyze it, and let them go. Provide them with a template of how you want them to produce their results (APA paper format or a poster template).

    Let them make their own mistakes and try to correct them. If they ask for help, give it, because you're a lab member too.

    I've done this with undergrad labs, including one with 3 high school students among the 8 members. Two went to international conferences, two others got published. They were always done by a 1 hour per week, 16 week lab course, plus the necessary extra time of working in the lab.

    Oh, and let them tell you what their part will be. Some are not good at the science, but may be good at the writing. Let them write it up. The point is not to get each to accomplish some pre-determined hoop jumping, but to get the lab as an organization to produce one good result, just like other real labs do.

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