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Free Skype Client Lands On the iPhone

CNet is reporting that a free Skype client will finally be landing on the iPhone this week. Unfortunately some are saying that it seems many of the "critical" pieces of functionality are still missing. While the Skype engineers claim their native client will offer better audio quality (because there is no need to route through another server and transcode audio) they are still missing text messaging, file transfers, and integrated voice mail. Since the iPhone does not allow for multiple programs running concurrently, many are expecting existing multi-function apps like Fring and NimBuzz to continue their reign at the top.

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  1. Re:Iphones can only run one app? by TheRaven64 · · Score: 4, Informative

    It's an arbitrary restriction and only applies to third-party apps. The aim is to avoid third-party apps draining the battery by doing a lot of things in the background, or preventing other things from working by using all of the RAM (the iPhone doesn't enable swapping, I believe).

    In theory, this is a good idea. Unfortunately, the whole philosophy of the iPhone is that Apple knows better than the owner of the device (which is probably true in the case of a lot of the users...) so there is no way of overriding this.

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  2. captain obvious: it'll never be full featured by girlintraining · · Score: 4, Insightful

    And this Skype client will never be full-featured because it would take revenue away from the phone company, who profits by selling voice plans. You might be thinking a data-only plan with a Skype client would save you money, but you'd be wrong: Apple doesn't want you to do that. AT&T doesn't either. Or any other wireless provider. Sure, we could invest in a decent wireless data architecture, but why do that when we know we can keep bumping up prices and not improving infrastructure, and then blaming "high consumption users" for the problem. You will pay, like the good consumer you are. Oh yes, you will pay.

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    1. Re:captain obvious: it'll never be full featured by sfcat · · Score: 4, Interesting

      The gphone has always had a skype client. This makes me wonder how carriers can continue this type of control of the cell phone platforms. Openness seems to have more of an advantage on the cell phones because of the tight control the telcos seem to try to enforce there. Is apple repeating the same mistake they made with the original Mac (trying to control both the hardware and software) vs android (runs on multiple types of hardware)? Or will the telcos desire for control keep the software closed?

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    2. Re:captain obvious: it'll never be full featured by nvrrobx · · Score: 4, Interesting

      I don't know about the "any other wireless provider" thing.

      Look up UMA on T-Mobile. My BlackBerry Curve 8320 supports it, so I use my WiFi for voice calls when I'm at home.

      AT&T may not want you to do that, but T-Mobile seems to be okay with it.

    3. Re:captain obvious: it'll never be full featured by david.given · · Score: 4, Interesting

      The gphone has always had a skype client.

      No, it doesn't.

      What it's got is a little application that makes a standard telephone call to a Skype server, which gateways your call onto the Skype network. Which means you use up mobile call time as well as Skype calltime. No VOIP is involved.

      Right now we're unlikely to see an aftermarket Skype client for Android because you can't do aftermarket native code on Android yet. (You can only do native code on Android if it gets built in when the phone OS image is made, which means it has to be done by the phone provider... and I'm sure Skype are working on that right now.)

  3. Re:My Question is This by mspohr · · Score: 4, Informative

    Skype will only use the WiFi network, not the 'unlimited' ATT data plan so you will only be able to use it while tethered to a local hotspot, not out roaming in the wild. ATT and Apple protect their revenue and force you to use your paid minutes instead of the 'unlimited' data plan that you are paying big bucks for...

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  4. Re:Iphones can only run one app? by omeomi · · Score: 4, Informative

    iPhones can run multiple apps, but the public SDK does not allow developers to write apps that run in the background. Apple can certainly write apps that run in the background, though. The music service, for one. The phone service, etc. Additionally, developers for jailbroken phones can run applications in the background because they're not constrained by the official SDK.

  5. Re:Iphones can only run one app? by omeomi · · Score: 4, Informative

    (the iPhone doesn't enable swapping, I believe).

    That is correct. The iPhone's virtual memory model does not include swapping.

  6. Re:If so won't last long by jgtg32a · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Unless you're a carnie

  7. Re:hate to say it by donny77 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    It depends on what you are looking for. I got a Windows Mobile phone because i wanted office integration. I tried using the web browser for playing, I've used Google maps. I sync e-mail using Intellisync software.

    After a little over two years, I'm ready for an iPhone. Why? The Internet browsing experience is better. I rarely use the office apps. I use Word to jot notes down, I can use the appropriate program on the iPhone for this purpose. I tried using Excel, the cell size is so small it is practically useless. With an iPhone I can VNC my desktop and use Excel from their on a largers screen with zoom functionality. That's better than my WM experience.

    Copy and paste is coming and it's the only feature I'd really want. Tethering is again coming. MMS I could care less about personally.

  8. Oh, look what Windows Mobile can do by AndrewNeo · · Score: 3, Interesting

    I'll just keep using Skype with my Windows Mobile phone, then, which, by the way, lets me use it on the data network. (I've never tried, because we only have EDGE in my area) I'm not bashing either Skype or Apple (I love my iPod Touch, though it's a 1st gen so Skype wouldn't work with it anyway) but I still have my PSP as another Skype-capable device, too.

  9. Re:whut? by rob1980 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    What if I'm abroad and have access to WiFi? No extortionate international charges through the provider, just power up Skype. This actually sounds like a good idea to me, since I'm studying abroad next year.

  10. So by castorvx · · Score: 5, Funny

    If I use the Skype application to dial my AT&T cell phone number, does my iPhone detonate?

  11. Only need Wifi by Crispix · · Score: 5, Interesting

    The complaints about "shortcomings" are misguided.

    I only need Skype in wifi hot spots. Domestically, I use my cell phone minutes for phone calls. If I need to call internationally from my iPhone, I use Skype-To-Go, their relay service.

    I only need VOIP when I'm out of the country. I'm not going to use iPhone data roaming because it is too expensive. But there are plenty of free wifi spots around the globe.

    Fring has been so unreliable for me, an official Skype client has me very excited. When I'm in Cabo or Canada (or anywhere overseas) for a weekend, and I want to call home, this is where a Skype client is perfect! Find a wifi hot spot and dial away!

  12. Re:whut? by ratnerstar · · Score: 3, Funny

    What does being a woman have to do with you having access to WiFi?

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  13. Re:My Question is This by Wellington+Grey · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Skype will only use the WiFi network, not the 'unlimited' ATT data plan so you will only be able to use it while tethered to a local hotspot, not out roaming in the wild.

    You've got to start somewhere. Telcos are not easy companies to change. But if Skype gets a small toehold, people will get used to their free phone calls on their mobiles. Soon, when the market penetration gets high enough, they'll start complaining about being tethered to one spot. Hopefully, that will forces the telcos to (slowly) change.

  14. Re:iPod Touch - required hardware? by EkriirkE · · Score: 3, Informative

    The earpieces that come with the iphone (or suitable replacement) and its inline microphone work with the touch.

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  15. Re:If so won't last long by Firehed · · Score: 4, Insightful

    It only works on WiFi, and Apple has explicitly stated that VOIP over WiFi is allowed - they wouldn't say that if AT&T were going to fight it. It's better for the telcos anyways - you're paying them your monthly rate regardless of whether you use their bandwidth, so the less you use, the more profit they take in.

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  16. Re:Iphones can only run one app? by BikeHelmet · · Score: 3, Insightful

    iCall has been available on the iPhone for about a half-year now. (apparently in beta)

    It integrates seamlessly with the iPhone. Those skype guys are behind. :P

  17. Re:Iphones can only run one app? by WillyDavidK · · Score: 4, Informative

    I'll post a link, there's nothing illegal about it:

    http://blog.iphone-dev.org/

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  18. Re:Iphones can only run one app? by dgatwood · · Score: 3, Informative

    I'm not sure it's the background apps that are the problem so much as what 99% of background apps do while in the background. The main reason to run an application in the background is to do networking, and that means the radio has to move from GPRS mode into EDGE or 3G mode, which drains significantly more power. It's not at all surprising that it causes a much higher battery drain if background apps keep waking the cellular hardware while it should be idle.

    As soon as you bring up the cellular network to get data, you're spending several seconds negotiating with the tower to switch from GPRS mode to EDGE or 3G and obtain an IP number for the interface. Then, your initial DNS lookup, at least based on my experience with AT&T's EDGE network can potentially add another 10-15 seconds in the worst case. Pull even a trivial amount of data and you've probably added another ten or fifteen seconds. At that point, you've spent the better part of a minute with the radio draining significantly more power than it does in its normal GPRS/waiting-for-calls standby state. Do this once a minute, and you almost might as well be talking on the phone to somebody. Okay, so maybe that's a bit of an exaggeration, but it does drain a lot more power....

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  19. Re:Iphones can only run one app? by omeomi · · Score: 3, Informative

    Having read the iPhone Memory Management guide a number of times, I can assure you that that the iPhone's virtual memory model does not include disk swapping. The Apple documentation says exactly this.