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Verizon Promises 4G Wireless For Rural America

Hugh Pickens writes "A Pew study last year found that only 38 percent of rural American homes have access to broadband Internet, compared to 57 percent in cities and 60 percent in the suburbs. All that could be about to change with the announcement that Verizon plans to start introducing a new wireless network in the 700 MHz spectrum in 2010. 'The licenses we bought in the 700MHz auction cover the whole US,' says Tony Melone, a Verizon Wireless VP. 'And we plan to roll out LTE [high-speed mobile service] throughout the entire country, including places where we don't offer our [current] cell phone service today.' Because the [700 MHz] spectrum is in a lower frequency, it can transmit signals over longer distances and penetrate through obstacles, and because the signals travel longer distances, Verizon can deploy fewer cell towers than if it used spectrum from a higher frequency band, which means it can provide coverage at a lower cost. President Obama's administration is well aware of the high-speed Internet divide that exists today, and as part of the overall economic stimulus package passed by Congress, the government is allocating $7.2 billion for projects that bring broadband Internet access to rural towns and communities."

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  1. Welcome by Mishotaki · · Score: 3, Funny

    Let us welcome our future monopolistic overlords! so... they're gonna cap them at 5 gigs of data transfer a month for 200$ ? gotta pay for the bills of the bran new network!

    1. Re:Welcome by Aranykai · · Score: 4, Insightful

      I for one would welcome a monopoly over a lack of any service.

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  2. But will it be capped? by kdekorte · · Score: 3, Interesting

    I just hope it is a service with a reasonable cap or without a cap. The current 5GB limit to the wireless internet is way to small. If it has a 100GB or over cap I'd sign up today. Currently, I run about 25GB over Sprint Broadband and would expect more with a faster service. And yes it is all legal stuff...

    1. Re:But will it be capped? by maxume · · Score: 4, Interesting

      Maybe they will do something completely ridiculous and charge reasonable prices for metered bandwidth.

      Everyone one wins, light users pay less, heavy users get the bits they want for a reasonable amount, the company has the resources necessary to expand the network.

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    2. Re:But will it be capped? by Yez70 · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Wasn't Verizon forced to agree to an open device network in order to even bid on this spectrum?

    3. Re:But will it be capped? by rawg · · Score: 2, Insightful

      I 2nd this. Metered bandwidth is the way to go. Grandpa can afford to send his three emails a month and I can do my remote development 6 days a week.

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    4. Re:But will it be capped? by venuspcs · · Score: 2

      I use an AT&T cellphone as my internet connection. I used 165GB last month and it was all legal stuff....Mostly Hulu!

    5. Re:But will it be capped? by Daimanta · · Score: 3, Insightful

      "Everyone one wins, light users pay less, heavy users get the bits they want for a reasonable amount, the company has the resources necessary to expand the network."

      That's what happens if companies play nice.

      What really happens: Light users pay exactly the same, "heavy users" will pay a lot more.

      My proposition: do NOT oversell your capacity. You cannot sell what you do not have and if the network grinds to a halt, it's not the rightful users who are to blame.

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  3. Prediction: by lessthanpi · · Score: 3, Funny

    Farm related porn will flood the interweb

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    1. Re:Prediction: by couchslug · · Score: 2, Funny

      "Farm related porn will flood the interweb"

      But think of the boost in tourism!

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  4. This is great news if it happens -- by Cutting_Crew · · Score: 2, Informative

    Verizon did win the bid to get the 700 mhz spectrum but that is not what will elevate them into rural america alone.

    Verizon merging with Alltel will be a big factor as Alltel has had a presence in a lot of rural and small city suburbs.

  5. Re:Because it worked so well last time by nine-times · · Score: 5, Insightful

    The problem is giving subsidies to private companies without anything that tracks where that money goes. Building Internet infrastructure is a worthwhile investment. Giving Verizon billions of dollars and saying, "I hope you build something good with this," is not such a great idea.

  6. High Speed Internet Availability by snowraver1 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    compared to 57 percent in cities and 60 percent in the suburbs[...]

    That's pretty terrible...

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    1. Re:High Speed Internet Availability by pnutjam · · Score: 2, Informative

      You know I fell for the Cable is much faster then DSL garbage for a long time. On paper, that is true. Now that I have DSL, I can genuinely say it feels much faster. I get consistantly faster torrents and downloads. My VPN is more responsive.

      I do miss my "sticky" IP, it changes alot more w/ DSL, but that's easy to work around.

  7. New network on phones? by ClaraBow · · Score: 2, Insightful

    It would be nice if we could use this new wireless network on our smart phones and then let us tether our phones to our computers so that we could use it on the go and at home for one "reasonable price." --that is what I would love to see!

    1. Re:New network on phones? by PitaBred · · Score: 2

      I can tether my phone to any computer for an extra $0 a month. Gotta love T-Mobile. I even clarified it with their rep before ordering it... I'm not breaking any TOS, and I didn't have to do any jailbreaking or any kinds of hacks to the phone firmware to get it working.

  8. Why is everyone ignoring the latency issues? by NevDull · · Score: 3, Insightful

    It seems as though everyone's excited about "wireless broadband", but the speedtest app on my iPhone says 416ms ping while I'm on 3G.

    Latency that's even half that is useless for many applications, and just frustratingly slow for just about all the rest.

    Are we just heading for a new definition of the digital divide whereby some people don't have access to *useful* broadband?

    -Nev

    1. Re:Why is everyone ignoring the latency issues? by kindbud · · Score: 3, Informative

      It seems as though everyone's excited about "wireless broadband", but the speedtest app on my iPhone says 416ms ping while I'm on 3G.

      Speedtest.net from my PC when it is connected to my Cradlepoint WAP, which in turn is connected to Verizon's 3G EVDO network, shows me 150 ms latency all the time. Xbox360 games, EVE Online, other PC games, they all work great over my 3G service.

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    2. Re:Why is everyone ignoring the latency issues? by SpectreBlofeld · · Score: 3, Informative

      From http://mobiledevdesign.com/tutorials/lte_next_step_cellular_3g-1027/

      "Network latency will also improve, from as much as 200 ms today to 5 to 10 ms with LTE."

    3. Re:Why is everyone ignoring the latency issues? by Pros_n_Cons · · Score: 2, Informative

      I am stuck with satellite internet (Wildblue) at home, so I am really hoping something good comes of this, esp WRT bandwith caps.

      I feel your pain. I was with wild blue and those latency times made my internet use almost useless. I got a sprint mobile on USB and my d/l is typically 1.2mbps but latency is usually around 100 and has never been over 200. Yes its 60 bucks a month but wild blue was 80 so get outta that contract homie.

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  9. Re:America? by maxume · · Score: 2, Insightful

    It is in U.S. English.

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  10. Re:America? by mobets · · Score: 2, Interesting

    I usually say North America to refer to the continent. This has the added benefit of distinguishing it from South America.

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  11. Re:Thanks Obama! by RyuuzakiTetsuya · · Score: 2, Insightful

    New LTE service also means that someone's going to have to support that network. Sales, customer service, tech support, network deployment, etc. etc. While the moderately well off get richer,a nd the obscenely wealthy get even richer, there's also the result of new jobs being created.

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  12. Video conferencing by tepples · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Latency does not matter for media streaming

    It matters for video conferencing, which as far as I know has a similar bandwidth requirement to YouTube in each direction.