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EFF Says Obama Warrantless Wiretap Defense Is Worse than Bush
SonicSpike writes "The Electronic Frontier Foundation has just said that 'In the warrantless wiretapping case, Obama DOJ's new arguments are worse than Bush's.'"
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Meh. As long as the whole violation of human rights thing has stopped I don't care.
Is that what you asked Santa Claus for?
Seriously, you cannot be that naive...
Anyone that thinks that because a particular party that is in office at any time can do whatever they want and there will be NO repercussions on the next administrations is stupid and deserves the Darwinian effect. Go to jail, do not pass go and hahaha, were all screwed.
Yeah, moderate me as a troll, but you all know I'm 100% right about this, anyone that doesn't is a complete imbecile!
Only 'flamers' flame!
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Wait a short while... there are some... and they will grow. Unfortunately, it doesn't help that Fox news is pushing that view... no one takes Fox seriously any more and if someone sounds like Fox, they won't be taken seriously either.
What the Dixie Chicks experienced came from clear channel communications, by proxy for the Bush administration. Big difference.
fixed that for ya.
I heard the sentiment you are stating there a lot when this happened...and it's complete horseshit IMO.
My mother and my sister are huge Dixie Chicks fans...and did not care that they said that. I don't know anyone that did. And before you perpetuate a stereotype by saying 'how most Dixie Chicks fans are'...my mother and sister would probably fit into your view of what a DC fan is.
Or that some of Bush's policies were actually good.
I mean... I disagreed bush as much as the next guy. But not every single moment of his presidency was a failure. Sometimes he made the best bad decision he could.
That MUST be the change he promised us.
Wake up. There is no change.
How did the liberal counties keep finding hundreds of ballots, almost all for Franken, until Franken was in the lead? All the legal votes were counted, plus some.
You don't make the poor richer by making the rich poorer. - Winston Churchill
In a press release today, the EFF asserted that today's EFF actions are worse than any previous EFF actions. EFF Spokesperson Ewan McTeagle said, "This is a radical assertion that is utterly unprecedented. It's especially disappointing argument to hear from the EFF."
You think Bush gave a shit about sensitivity to the families of dead soldiers?
Not exactly. He realized if you marginalize losses, glamorize success and hide the truth, you can desensitize the populace. The first dead soldiers america felt.
Now, the dead are merely a statistic. I don't recall the quote exactly off the top of my head, but "if you kill one, it's a tragedy. if you kill a million, it's a statistic".
Just look at the lack of outrage for activities in Rwanda, Congo, Somalia(ok i'll give you this one, we did intervene, albeit weakly) and the whole string of genocides that have occurred in the last few decades. If you kill enough people, it's just a number. Kind of like money. Bush gave $750,000 million to a bunch of crooks but the outrage came when people found out $400 million went to corporate bonuses for said crooks.
Getting my drift?
You can't legislate goodness. Let each to his own destiny, by will of his freely made choices.
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Tell that to the guys over there getting shot at. Do you think it's any less of a war to them? How many of those guys planting road side bombs received comfort from Natalie Maines' words?
She wasn't on a USO tour, and she wasn't talking about troops. You must be one of those people who think its impossible to criticize the policies that our government decides to enact which result in armed conflicts without denigrating the military volunteers who are doing their sworn duty.
The reason they are fighting (in theory at least) is to that Maines CAN say what she wants to say about the President. How can you not understand that?
Tell that to Orwell. I posted his quote, not mine. Then again, what would the author of 1984 and Animal Farm know about totalitarianism.
The comment was not about Orwell, it's about the flaw in the logic that would conclude that speaking ill of the government is disloyal in a time of war (which we're not in), so it must also, in your mind, apply to times of armed conflict. Which never end. And, therefore, we can never speak ill of the government.
Twice! He was one Hell of a governor. He truly united both Democrats and Republicans in this state. He compromised and received compromise from the Democrats. Unfortunately, that doesn't work on a federal level. Take vouchers for example. You know, that program that gives money to poor kids so they can have the same opportunity as the rich kids? Opposed by Democrats because it had Bush's name on it.
The irony there, which you apparently miss, is that the plan redistributes wealth. A GOP mantra against that sort of thing has been somewhat of a constant, irritating drone since mid-summer 2008.
Bush probably would have had more success on the Federal level if he hadn't quickly moved towards a "you're either with me or against me" philosophy of governance. But, at that point he was more or less the pawn of the RNC and its real movers and shakers, so I don't know how much real control he had over that.
You must be too young to remember Carter, Nixon, Ford or Johnson, and too ignorant to know about of the other truly failed Presidents in America's history (like the other Johnson).
Do you always think in absolutes? "One of the worst" is not the same as "the worst". Ranking "the worst" would depend on a lot of variable balancing, but I don't know anyone with more than half a brain who doesn't think that Bush is definitely mingling at the bottom of the list. Hard to even find people who will freely offer that they voted for him these days.
Remember Greenspan? You know, the guy who is credited with one of the largest economic expansions in US history? What President was he under again?
Oh you mean that guy who now freely admits he missed one of the most catastrophic feedback loops in the history of modern economics?
(actually, it was four presidents, but the largest economic expansion happened under the last one.... well until Democrats took over Congress again)
I think you need to look at that again, and see which presidents had GDPs and other economic indicators that ended higher than when they initially took office.
Finally, as to your rant against Texas. Have you ever been here?
Yes, I have immediate family members that live there. I didn't say it was a bad place, I said that people like you give it a bad image. You'd help more by typing and speaking less.
You do realize that Texas is doing better economically than most of the nation right now?
While Texas does indeed have number of industries that aren't doing poorly, that also isn't saying a whole lot in the current economic climate.
In other words, Ron Paul doesn't think it's ok for the federal government to say that you can't have butt sex, but he's perfectly fine with the state government saying your can't have butt sex.
I'm sure Ron Paul would be perfectly ok with warrant-less wiretapping as well, as long as it was the state government doing it and not the federal government. The constitution? Oh that just has silly words in it like "Liberty" which in no way implies freedom from prying eyes in your bedroom.
How is that modded up as insightful? Are all the ego-bruised republicans meta-moderating today?
Barack has been in office for.............three months. I haven't lost any more civil liberties than I had when he started and I'm not going to start bagging on the guy for not fixing EVERYTHING in three months. He is working on getting the economy stimulated by spending money and trying to regulate the financial sector. More power to him.
I work for a company that had a 100 year existance and my current(ex) CEO bankrupted the thing in side of 6 months. The kicker is the "Change of Control" documents that him and his buddies were having filed so that when the thing went bankrupt/acquired he would be compensated for doing so. I'm still not positive how you can drive a company into the ground and walk away with three times your annual salary and your highest bonus over the past three years.
So to get back on track, Barack's been in office for three months and he's trying to fix the economy. I'm still waiting for the republican counter-plan.
You obviously are cherry-picking your examples. Famous right-wingers write books entitled Treason: Liberal Treachery from the Cold War to the War on Terrorism. Bill O'Reilly regularly calls liberals un-American. Criticising Bush got you tarred and feathered as a traitor by the right wing.
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