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Device Keeps Lungs Breathing Outside the Body
Al writes "A new system that keeps lungs breathing outside the body could improve the chances of a successful transplant. The Toronto XVIVO Lung Perfusion System, developed at Toronto General Hospital, can keep a pair of human lungs slowly breathing inside a glass dome attached to a ventilator, pump, and filters. The lungs are maintained at normal body temperature of 37 C and perfused with a bloodless solution that contains nutrients, proteins, and oxygen. The organs can be kept alive in the machine for up to 12 hours while surgeons assess function and repair them. See a video of the system keeping a pair of lungs alive."
Sweet mother of Jesus!!
Watch that video!!
NOW.
What a breath of fresh air!
I'm glad they're breathing new life into transplant technology.
The medical community did well but they shouldn't go getting all puffed up over this.
phew. There. I'm taking a karma hit for everybody who even considered making those jokes.
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While this is rather cool, I can't help thinking that,somehow, Vincent Price had a hand in the project.
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Watching the lungs inflate and deflate rhythmically makes me feel all funny inside.
Like I want to retch.
Just in case it was lost in translation, my initial astonishment was GOOD.
Modern science truly works miracles.
Damn that's just creepy! I half expect to see it moving around trying to take over the world!
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I do beleive the iron lung requires an actual living body to work. This simply requires living lungs. Hence, you know, the very first sentence in the summary "A new system that keeps lungs breathing outside the body"...
Damn look how shitty universal health care is. Damn us socialists up here certainly live in the stone age.....
First you put your lungs in the dome, along with your weed which you light and then you slide the other half of the dome over and let the lungs fill up with smoke.
How long do you think it will be before they are able to do a full system like this. Or at least the brain, eyes, lungs, and heart. That would be amazing!
It would also make a good goofy syfy movie where the bodyless organs go around and commit crimes. It would get away with it because nobody would be able to identify it (lack of facial features).
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Odd. Video looks kind of fake, especially given that the first cut has was I'm presuming to be a vacuum cover _off_ of the device. Plus the lungs are way too perfect looking -- nothing like the more ragged looking ones in the photo. *shrug* Not doubting it works, just don't think the video's authentic, more an "artist's representation" of what the system does.
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Attending his funeral?
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Good news Mr and Mrs Smith! we were able to save your son's lungs. Here's the jar, make sure to keep him plugged in. Sorry we couldn't save anything else.
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Why did one of the lungs looked like it was sliced or cracked?
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and it was all done in the 1950s. Search for Doctor Sergei S. Bryukhonenko.
Experiments in the Revival of Organisms
A link to the movie in google video
So they've basically re-designed the iron lung?
Not really. An iron lung works by negative pressure outside the body causing a negative intrathoracic pressure which draws a breath into the lungs. This is mimicking the physiologic function of the chest wall where the intercostal muscles contract causing the ribs to rise (bucket handle) and the diaphram to contract and drop. This increases intrathoracic volume and decreases the pressure.
Looking at the video, they are using a positive pressure system, where much like the modern ventilators, forces air into the lung. This is less physiologic, but more efficient and provides more precise control.
I think you have some issues. :)
And no Canadians are not stuck in the stone age. Only an idiot would think that.
You guys are stuck in the ice age
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Considering the time and location of his experiments I think some concerns might be raised.
I bet this guy makes Victor Frankenstein look like a noob. But I could be wrong ofc.
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...and there goes the joke right over your head... maybe you can save it? Its still good Its still good.... Nope as Bart says later, its gone. You sir ruined the joke...
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just fucking creepy.
On Slashdot it is impossible to post a joke that nobody will take seriously.
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And no, "the rich" can't pay for it out of pocket above the socialized care. See, that would be unfair to those who can't afford it.
Canada, along with Cuba and North Korea, is one of only three places where a citizen can not spend their own money to save their own life. The state literally owns your life.
When my son was sick there, I presented his American passport, and offered money, and he was seen right away. Unfortunately, as a Canadian citizen, I had to return to the U.S. to have the same privilege.
In Liberty, Rene
Hey I was just making a joke about the weather in Canada.
I have heard both good and bad about your health care system. The thing is that it is your health care system and not mine. I don't have to live with it, use it, or pay for it.
It is your country and I feel that Canadians need to work out what is best for Canada.
I know I hate it when people on other countries try to say what the US should or shouldn't do so as I said it is all up to you.
But that being said it is just too freaking cold for me there.
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It is easy to say that one should fix one's own's country's problems. However, in practice this can be very difficult when one is (a) the victim of it's policies, (b) exploited tax-wise for the benefit of others, (c) one's taxes also support the exploitive system itself.
What can one do? Bitch, complain, and try to raise awareness to effect a peaceful revolt at the polls?
I, and others, tried that, through referenced, researched, and publicized criticism of existing policies. It's a little unnerving to criticise the government, however, when the only thing that says you own your home is a record in a government database (Ontario has no real sense of title to property.), and, if you're deemed a security risk to the state, you can be held without trial, incommnunicado, indefinitely, and the charges against you kept a state secret from you or your attorney. Look up Canadian Security Certificate. Yes, the U.S. arguably does the same thing, but at least has founding documents that says it can't, and therefore a violent revolution against such behavior would have some air of legitimacy. Still, the recognition of habeous corpus for Guantanamo detainees gives me some hope, even as I might think them guilty of actions against the U.S. -- let a trial settle the issue.
The best way for me to fight, actually, was to leave. As a non-resident, the state was not entitled to my tax dollars any more. The U.S. is.
And, I have been treated far, far, FAR, better as a lawful permanent resident foreigner of the U.S. than I ever was as a citizen of the country of my birth.
In Liberty, Rene
Well the US is the land of immigrants so I have no problem with you choosing to be here. As I said I feel I have no right to say how Canada should run it's health care system. I do feel that Canada does a good job at being a democracy but then I don't live there. As I said my post was simply a weather joke. I was born and live in Florida so Canada is just too frigging cold.
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Please cite, since I kinda remember my mom having an epidural to have me just fine.
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My post was pointing out the fact that often people feel universal health care gives only the basics rather then pushing innovation. When in fact Canadians have access to the same innovative technologies as everybody else and as this story points out are even breaking new ground.I only said in light of people south of us labeling health care as a socialist entity and think the quality of there health care would drop significantly if it were universal. Same people often think Michael Moore is the Antichrist so probably haven't seen his movie that points to an American system completely run by greed. Or maybe I'm just flamebait.
Another reason Americans should get universal health care, that I can speak for. Is because ass loads of 'Mericans come up here and exploit our free health care at the expense of Canadians. Buddies mom is a nurse and says at least once a week a lady from overseas has a baby at the expense of Canadian citizens to the tune of 30 000$ (in just her hospital). They plan ahead to go into labor soon after getting off the plane, we legally do not deny them health care (As other countries due if you have no insurance....) and thus the birth is free.
Still, the recognition of habeous corpus for Guantanamo detainees gives me some hope, even as I might think them guilty of actions against the U.S. -- let a trial settle the issue
"In Canada, the United States has joined a notorious group of countries -- Iran, Saudi Arabia, Syria, Afghanistan and China, among others -- as a place where foreigners risk torture and abuse, according to a training manual for Canadian diplomats that was accidentally given this week to Amnesty International lawyers."
Last time Canada was in hot water over torture was when we handed over a "terrorist". Because we gave him up to America.
"When the United States sent Maher Arar to Syria, where he was tortured for months, the deportation order stated unequivocally that Mr. Arar, a Canadian software engineer, was a member of Al Qaeda. But a few days earlier, Canadian investigators had told the F.B.I. that they had not been able to link him to the terrorist group.
A close reading of the Arar Commission report offers a rare window on American actions in the case, describing seemingly flimsy evidence behind the American decision in 2002 to send Mr. Arar to a country notorious for torture; a deliberate attempt by American officials to deceive Canada about where Mr. Arar was; and lingering confusion among top American officials about the two countriesâ(TM) roles in the case.
Mr. Arar spent 10 months in the custody of Syrian interrogators who beat him repeatedly with a heavy metal cable and held him in a dank cell scarcely larger than a coffin, according to the commission report. In October 2003, he was released and returned to his wife and children in Canada."
Rene S Hollan
"Still, the recognition of habeous corpus for Guantanamo detainees gives me some hope, even as I might think them guilty of actions against the U.S. -- let a trial settle the issue."
If you are seriously defending this sh!t then you MUST be American.
Actually, less worse, because Guantanamo detainees have habeas corpus to draw upon in their defense, whereas individuals can be legally held incommunicado without trial indefinitely in Canada.
I never said the American government does not break it's own laws, but when it does, one can cry "Foul!"
Not so in Canada.
And, lets not forget Canadians Ahmed Said al-Khadr, and his family.
Heck, even then Prime Minister Chretien supported their terrorist groups.
I was born a Canadian and am happy to have escaped. I live on American soil, have an American son, pay American taxes, and fly an American flag.
In Liberty, Rene
That seems... weird. The hospital doesn't charge them if they don't have a provincial health insurance card? Can you cite that?
It's better to vote for what you want and not get it than to vote for what you don't want and get it.
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You truly are crazy.
I dunno if you watch the news but Obama has acknowledged that all that torture was against basically every world law on the books, yet is gonna still ignore the rule of law saying that since it happened in the past we should move on.
I'd rather stay in a country that doesn't demolition buildings at the expense of thousands of it's own citizens and hundreds of it's on firefighters. But as usual it is like talking to a wall trying to explain to an American that buildings can't just fall at the speed of gravity unless by demolition, and it is a proven physical impossibility that jet fuel can reach the heat necessary to melt steel.