Stephen Hawking Is "Very Ill" In Hospital

C S Miller writes "Not much more to add. The BBC is reporting that 'Stephen Hawking is "very ill" in hospital.' He has had a few health scares before, and as a post-graduate he was told he didn't have much longer to live; he's now 67."

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Oh dear

[chunk08]

I do hope he pulls through, he is an amazing man.

Re:Oh dear

[JohaunaRei]

I to hope he pulls through also. This is one that I hope has no funny posts.

Re:Oh dear

[Anonymusing]

Ironically, if Hawking helped people, advanced humanity, inspired others to great things, and was deeply selfless... he may actually be far closer to God than most Christians.

Re:Oh dear

[femtobyte]

Perhaps one can look at this in a more positive sense?

Though I'm no scientist like Newton or Hawking,
or a great advancer of society like Gandhi or M.L. King,
indeed, I'm a miserable failure when compared against the highest standards of humanity, and infinitely more so when judged against the perfect standards of God,

the Good News is that even I can receive all the greatest benefits of eternal life through grace, rather than the consignment to nothingness that I deserve by my own efforts.

Re:Oh dear

[tempest69]

I hope he pulls through too. Because if he dies he will do so without being having accepted his gift of salvation through Jesus Christ. God is not going to ask Stephen Hawking what his GPA was, or how many department chairs he has held, or how many papers he has published. No, there is only one question that Mr. Hawking will be asked... Did you believe upon my Son for the forgiveness of your sins?

ok.. Any intelligence which is that conceited, petty and needy has no buisness being worshipped. Actually such an intelligence wouldnt even have my respect.

Storm

Re:Oh dear

[vlm]

His most fawning worshipful descriptions such as:

Stephen Hawking is one of the greatest minds of the 20th century. The guy has achieved more than almost anyone on the planet

Primarily seem to be a direct result, and inseparable from :

being completely wheelchair bound and having a speech impediment

It is disrespectful toward him, for people whom don't know anything about physics, to brown nose all over the guy, just because he's handicapped. Note, I'm not saying he's a loser, its not a binary this or that response. It is more respectful of his considerable intellectual achievements to describe him as definitely well above average in his profession, rather than a polite version of condescendingly fawning over every little little achievement of a sick child.

For example, in my opinion Asimov beats him in popular science writing, Feynman beats him in actual physics and also general writing. Not coming in first or second place doesn't make him a moron, it just makes him not first or second place. Just not the greatest mind of the century, just not the greatest achievement on the planet. Still cool mind you, just not the greatest.

He is fairly comparable to Edward Belbruno, the genius inventor of low energy orbital transfers, in that both broke new ground in a very specialized area of study where they got very surprising, paradigm changing results, and wrote reasonably decent books about it. Note, you've never heard of Belbruno because he physically normal, as far as I know.

It's more respectful to declare him a very significant figure in early black hole physics and a decent writer and stop at that point, than to focus on his handicap while worshiping his achievements in a pandering manner.

Re:Oh dear

[Temujin_12]

I hope he pulls through too. Because if he dies he will do so without being having accepted his gift of salvation through Jesus Christ. God is not going to ask Stephen Hawking what his GPA was, or how many department chairs he has held, or how many papers he has published. No, there is only one question that Mr. Hawking will be asked... Did you believe upon my Son for the forgiveness of your sins?

I'll chime in on this, because as a Christian it kills me to see this pre-school level understanding of Christianity repeated.

To make it simple here's the basic axioms of Christianity:
1. God is real and is perfect
2. Anyone who wants to return to Him must be perfect
3. Nobody is perfect (enter the paradox)
4. Christ willingly takes upon Himself the imperfections (sins) of the world.
5. Then as the creditor, He, and He alone, has the authority to redefine the terms of returning to God

The problem arises when Christians think they themselves are able to define the terms of returning to God, which when you think of it could be considered blasphemous at the highest level because one must arrogate themselves above Christ to think that they have the authority to do so.

This is done often by misinformed Christians when referring to atheists, non-believers, other Christian sects, and even people with whom they don't agree with within their own faith--and generally is indicative of a very immature understanding of the Christian faith. I've encountered this myself as I've heard people tell me whether I'm a Christian based on definitions varying from "anyone who follows Christ" to "anyone who goes to my Bible study group on Thursdays." It's a version of the "no true Scotsman" fallacy.

Continuing from #5 above:

6. A significant portion of God's children never heard of Christ or otherwise lacked the opportunity to accept Him by no fault of their own, and thus could not be condemned by a perfect God for reasons beyond their control (note that "opportunity" is defined loosely here since it is different for everyone)

Christians who stopped at #5 above and simply proceeded to try to define the terms of salvation on their own won't even get to this step since they're too busy trying to pretend they're qualified to judge those around them (which, by the way, is explicitly forbidden in Christianity).

There are several different ways different Christian sects try to solve the paradox contained in #6. Rather than dive too much deeper I'll just say that Christ Himself gave a clue to this in His parable of the sheep and goats in Matthew (go look it up). Summarizing, it basically teaches that those who concerned themselves with helping the homeless, poor, sick, widowed and otherwise less fortunate are those who He will allow back into God's presence regardless of any amount of lip service given.

So if, God forbid, Dr. Hawking dies now, will he be saved? I don't know, and I can firmly say that neither does anyone else on this planet. So, I'd say the best thing we can do is appreciate all the good he did and hope/pray we can enjoy his presence longer. And if not, take all of the good Dr. Hawking brought to the scientific community and mankind in general.

Re:Oh dear

[inasity_rules]

Why are you blaming God for what people do in his name? I've seen people do some pretty messed up stuff in the name of money. Does that make all money evil? Or maybe we should hold people responsible for their actions, not God, whether or not you believe in him.

Religion gives people power just like politics. Are you really so surprised that people at times abuse power? Get some perspective please before you start spewing hate like that. Oh, wait. This is slashdot. Never-mind. Carry On.

Poor Guy

[Anonymous Coward]

All I can say is that I hope he doesn't have to suffer any more pain than he already has.

Hawking has proposed a solution

[Anonymous Coward]

If we can launch him into space, and get him traveling fast enough, he'll seem to live nearly forever from our perspective.

Re:Hawking has proposed a solution

[Reason58]

I thought it was a fry-hole...

HAWKING

I call it a "Hawking Hole".

FRY

No fair! I saw it first!

HAWKING

Who is The Journal Of Quantum Physics going to believe?

Oblig. Futurama

[Dachannien]

Fry: Hey! Stephen Hawking! Aren't you that physicist that invented gravity?

Stephen Hawking: Sure. Why not?

Post-graduate

[JaZz0r]

...as a post-graduate he was told he didn't have much longer to live...

Let this be a lesson to all - graduating is hazardous to your health!

Cruel fate

[Hognoxious]

Sadly, it's even worse. I heard he has considerable holdings of Sun stock.

Re:I'm a big fan of his music

[Anonymous Coward]

Certainly not! Do you want to create *more* of them?!?

The Facts

[eldavojohn]

He was given 2-3 years to live ... at age 21 due to amyotrophic lateral sclerosis.

He contracted pneumonia in 1985 and would never speak naturally again as a result of the surgery to save his life.

When the odds are stacked against you, a "fantastic will to live" can seem pretty insignificant. I'm grateful we've had his presence for this long but these are the facts.

I'm not afraid to show Stephen Hawking we're shocked and mortified that we might lose him. I hope we don't but I'm not one to go through life with a "everything's going to be just fine" attitude masking my true feelings. I followed Robert Jordan's disease in mortified fear and I'll follow Stephen Hawking's progress in mortified fear. I would like him to know how much the world will miss him before it is too late.

I am grateful for all that he has done in stealing knowledge from the unknown and delivering it to mankind. I know my own personal state of understanding owes him a great deal.

A long time ago...

[Jhon]

I had the pleasure of seeing one of his lectures. This was before the breathing tube and voice synth. Honestly couldn't understand a word he was saying. One of his undergrads would translate for him. Went something like this:

Hawking: "hmm um mumb bllum blbl lun udn ummm mummb lum mum".

SomeGuy: "And we should see a large burst of gamma radiation."

I had a less than elegant friend with me who leaned over to me and whispered: "Wouldn't it be funny if the guy in the wheel chair was just some retarded kid and the other guy was a genius who didn't want noterity?"

Re:A Legend

[yascha]

Mr. Hawking has contributed man things to the fields of science and written some truly great books.

Can't fault someone that contributes man things.

Re:Note to the BBC

[EvilToiletPaper]

This is Stephen Hawking and BBC, not Sarah Palin and Fox news.

Who gives a damn what he looks like. What's a 'slightly' better picture gonna do? Everyone who knows him reveres him for his mind not his body and face.

God and Stephen

[WED Fan]

I see God sitting down with Stephen, winking and then saying something like, "Hey, did you get what I did with that 10 dimension thing and how it really changes when you look at it in 11 dimensions. Trippy, right?"

Re:God and Stephen

[Anonymous Coward]

I see God sitting down with Stephen, winking and then saying something like, "Hey, did you get what I did with that 10 dimension thing and how it really changes when you look at it in 11 dimensions. Trippy, right?"

Hawking: I also spotted your unintentional mistake which become clear when you look at in 12 dimensions
God: You mother-fsckin' smartass

Re:WOW

[Chabo]

Back in the days of Aristotle, we knew that gravity was a constant downward force.

Newton's calculations didn't show that to be wrong, it merely proved that it's a good approximation if you're on the Earth's surface. If you're in space, you need to use Newton's work.

Einstein didn't disprove Newton, he merely showed that his calculations are a good approximation if you're traveling at less than 10% the speed of light. Higher than that, and you need to use Einstein's equations.

Hawking showed that Einstein's equations only worked in a limited scope, just like Einstein did to Newton. In the same way, Hawking's early work has been supplanted by more recent studies, but it doesn't mean the man is dumb.